Murdoch Mysteries - General Discussion

[TVForever]

11 minutes ago, blackwing said:

I liked seeing the Korean family, and the fact that Terence Meyers was on but wasn't ridiculous.  I actually didn't dislike him in this episode.  I did think it was a bit weird that nothing was at all said about the last time they saw him

IKR! After all, Meyers the Super Spy was being worked by HIS OWN WIFE of many years, and it basically wrapped up with “Sorry kids, Mom ran off with the postman…”

[Prevailing Wind]

Episode 15.15 - It's a Wonderful Game

YAAYYYYY, George is back.

"Then I took the bottom out of the basket to make retrieval easier."  "It took you TWO YEARS to figure that out?"

Is the storyline with Jack over now? Good for Brackenreid finding/rescuing Watts from the homophobe.

ETA: If I seem a bit incoherent, my cat died this morning. Goddamn cancer.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Prevailing Wind

[peacheslatour]

15 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Episode 15.15 - It's a Wonderful Game

YAAYYYYY, George is back.

"Then I took the bottom out of the basket to make retrieval easier."  "It took you TWO YEARS to figure that out?"

Is the storyline with Jack over now? Good for Brackenreid finding/rescuing Watts from the homophobe.

ETA: If I seem a bit incoherent, my cat died this morning. Goddamn cancer.

I'm so sorry. I lost my darling Peaches in 2019 and I still think of her every day. ((((hugs)))

[Trey]

Finally there is a renewal announcement.  I don't know how long it's been up since I haven't checked lately.

Anyhow, Season 16 will begin in Canada on an unspecified date this fall. It again will be 24 episodes.

[blackwing]

On 3/7/2022 at 10:34 PM, auchic said:

Episode 15.19 - Brother Can You Spare a Crime?

Another enjoyable episode, although the case was a little boring. I called it being the brother, but I figured he found out Opal was giving the camp folks money/food and got pissed off.  Sad how it actually happened, and wow that they were willing to keep the truth a secret after their father killed Morris. More of Watts and Murdoch working together please! 

Ah Brackenreid. Liked him sticking up for the waitress but yeah, it's going to cost more if she and the rest of the staff are getting paid a living wage. And it was nice they showed how close many people are to being unhoused, even with a full-time job.

Margaret gets to be awesome again. I liked that she was able to help the baby and the mother, and that she was able to reassure Julia that no one is born with motherhood knowledge, it's something that has to be learned. 

Damn it, LET WATTS BE HAPPY 🤬🤬.

Next week: 

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JAMES PENDRICK!!!! God I love him. Fingers crossed that he interacts with Watts; I think my heart would explode with happiness.

On 3/8/2022 at 11:12 AM, Grundoon59 said:

15.19 - Brother Can You Spare a Crime?

Utterly agree with @auchic and @peacheslatour, Watts is my favorite and needs to be happy.  But I will admit to wondering if Milo was not necessarily someone to rely on for the long term.  Maybe he will return soon but his the manner of his departure was definitely not cool. 

I was also suspicious of the family especially given their demonization of the people in the camp.  I hope the father, son and daughter all have pay a price for their actions, especially since no one except Murdoch and Watts seemed to give a rip about Morris.  Sounds like Opal was the gem (pardon the pun) of the family although not entirely saintly.  Glad Murdoch and Watts didn't give up until the truth came out. 

Glad they are giving Margaret something more to do this season - she did a good job of still looking haunted by Bobby's situation at the beginning of the episode but having some of it erased as she settled in at the clinic and was helping others. 

Good on ya Brackenreid for putting pressure on the cafe owner but you need to put your money where your mouth is (and he did).

On 3/12/2022 at 12:20 AM, marina to said:

15.19 Brother Can You Spare a Crime

Called it early that it would be someone in the family. Was trying to remember if it was just the father wanting to demonize the camp dwellers and the son saying nothing or if he joined in. If the former, than it's just tragic. If it's the latter, the son is a jerk.

Loved how Julia found a way for Margaret to redirect her energies. It was great that she had something to contribute. Also chiming in that it's great that they are using her more as a character in her own right this season. In fact, this season all the women are being used well, which is nice.

Poor Watts. Dumped twice in one season. As was said, let him be happy.

I'm also thrilled with next week's special guest. He's my favourite reoccurring character.

I enjoyed this episode, it seemed like an old school self-contained Murdoch episode with no plots carrying over from earlier or extending into other episodes.  The only things that affected continuity were Margaret still being down in the dumps and Julia pregnant.

So Opal was a bleeding heart who wanted to help the less fortunate.  The brother comes home and thinks they are being robbed so he fires a shot in the dark without even saying anything?  It was a tragic accident.  One that was easily explained.  He thought they were being robbed.  Why did he and the sister need to try and cover it up and try to blame a vagrant?  They let their mom and dad believe that Opal was killed by someone she was trying to help.

Terrible.  Then the dad kills the vagrant with zero proof of his guilt.  I feel for the mom.  Opal was killed.  Her husband should be hanged.  The brother should be hanged.  The sister should be put in prison for trying to pin the crime on someone else, an act that got that man killed.  Now the mom will be all alone.  She loses her entire family overnight.

I enjoyed seeing Brackenreid stick up for the servers but now he understands that the business owner has to make money too.  I liked seeing Margaret be content and use her skills to help others.

When Watts was making a phone call, I actually thought he was trying to reach Jack.  So I was surprised when we learned he was looking for Milo Strange and that Strange is gone.

Edited June 16, 2022 by blackwing

[Grundoon59]

@Trey - Great Minds think alike - something prompted me to look for a renewal today after not having checked for quite awhile and I was just coming here to post about it.  I was hopeful but ever since my Frankie Drake hopes got dashed, I am afraid to wish too much until it is official. 

[auchic]

10 hours ago, Trey said:

Finally there is a renewal announcement.  I don't know how long it's been up since I haven't checked lately.

Anyhow, Season 16 will begin in Canada on an unspecified date this fall. It again will be 24 episodes.

Woo hoo!! 

[Neiman]

Episode 15.15 - It's a Wonderful Game

It is getting stale having Dr. Ogden insert herself as the expert in so many different situations. I hope they are finished digging into Watts’s personal life.

[buckboard]

On 6/16/2022 at 7:42 PM, Neiman said:

Episode 15.15 - It's a Wonderful Game

It is getting stale having Dr. Ogden insert herself as the expert in so many different situations. I hope they are finished digging into Watts’s personal life.

Well, you've just knocked two of my favorite characters on MM.

Dr. Ogden shouldn't be an expert in so many different situations, but her husband and Pendrick seem to be inventing the Internet, radios, television, spaceships, etc. every other week?  It's fiction, not a reality show.  You have to have a willing suspension of disbelief and just enjoy the storylines.

As for Watt's personal life, my only regret is that he can't seem to find a happy relationship.  I hope more digging into his personal life will turn up a worthy companion. 

[Neiman]

13 minutes ago, buckboard said:

Well, you've just knocked two of my favorite characters on MM.

Dr. Ogden shouldn't be an expert in so many different situations, but her husband and Pendrick seem to be inventing the Internet, radios, television, spaceships, etc. every other week?  It's fiction, not a reality show.  You have to have a willing suspension of disbelief and just enjoy the storylines.

As for Watt's personal life, my only regret is that he can't seem to find a happy relationship.  I hope more digging into his personal life will turn up a worthy companion. 

I liked both characters early on, but the more I see, the more I feel they are moving away from their initial roles which were interesting to me.  I wish the writers would stick to the crimes and mysteries instead of focusing on personal lives.

[peacheslatour]

27 minutes ago, Neiman said:

I liked both characters early on, but the more I see, the more I feel they are moving away from their initial roles which were interesting to me.  I wish the writers would stick to the crimes and mysteries instead of focusing on personal lives.

TBH I liked it better when Julia was the ME. I like Ms. Hart too but maybe in a different role, she could have her own detective agency like Frankie Drake.

[blackwing]

On 3/14/2022 at 10:10 PM, auchic said:

Episode 15.20 - Pendrick's Planetary Parlour

I mean, of all the absurd things Murdoch Mysteries "invents" ahead of their time, the internet is certainly a choice.  But it's James Pendrick and even though absurd is what he does, he just makes it so fun. Peter Stebbings is probably my favourite recurring guest star for this reason. At least they stopped accusing him of all the murders; one of these days, he's going to actually kill someone and get away with it, since it's never Pendrick 😂.

Not enough Murdoch geeking out though; those are my favourite parts about Pendrick episodes, how childishly gleeful he gets over the silly things Pendrick does.  Also how put out he gets when Pendrick pays attention to someone else in the station house and offers them jobs out of nowhere lol. I'm with Murdoch though; no one wants to read books on a computer/phone/tablet 🤣.

On 3/14/2022 at 10:25 PM, statsgirl said:

Episode 15.20 - Pendrick's Planetary Parlour

This was sooooo much fun. I think that this might be my favourite episode yet. And that's really saying something for a show in its 15th season.

Lovely to see Jonathan Young in an equally nerdy but very different role than his Tesla vampire on Sanctuary. I liked how they wrote Struthers too, smart, creative but not in a romantic way.

Porn and cat pictures on the Face Space (is that what it's called?)

Did they get drunk in the writers room to come up with things to put in this episode? Either that or drugs.

I"m glad that George came out better in the end

On 3/16/2022 at 8:19 AM, Grundoon59 said:

Episode 15.20 - Pendrick's Planetary Parlour

I am not as great a fan of James Pendrick as others in the Murdochian fan universe are (I am now ducking out of the way to avoid the ire of the Pendrick admirers) but I did enjoy the episode.  I made a guess at who was the likely killer early on and was proved right but did like the journey in getting to the reveal.

Especially liked Struthers and wouldn't mind her popping up again in the future.  Also glad to see George featured so prominently and was worried that he might be taking steps away from the police force (if I am remembering his appearance on Frankie Drake, he made some successful investments that enabled him to live comfortably in the 1920s and that could have started with Pendrick). 

Continuing to feel for Margaret and have a sense that as Julia warned, she may find out something she does not want to know. 

I loved that Pendrick invented the internet, and that there were various reactions to it.  George was super excited and fascinated, Murdoch said nobody wants to read anything on a screen, and Brackenreid got me to laugh the loudest by saying something like "I just want to be able to send a message to someone without having to talk to them".  Because that's mostly how I feel at work, I don't like talking to people especially my boss, and I encourage him to send me an email instead of disrupting my work with his incessant phone calls!

It was obvious who the killer was. 

And I didn't think George was going to be going anywhere at all.  Kind of sad for him though that he has to go back to being a constable, after 15 years you would think he could get promoted to detective.  I cannot remember what it was he did 6 years ago that would make him permanently ineligible for detective, but if this were not a TV show, wouldn't he have been able to apply elsewhere?  I'm not sure if the "no detective" ban extends to all of the station houses in Toronto, but you would think he'd explore other cities.  He has to be in his 40s now and he's still a constable, even though Watts was brought in as a detective and seems younger than him.

Edited June 22, 2022 by blackwing

[blackwing]

On 3/22/2022 at 9:05 AM, Grundoon59 said:

Episode 15.21 - Devil's Music

I enjoyed the main points of the episode- the Brackenreid/Crabtree detective team is always fun and Leadbelly was a good addition.  Glad the baby arrived safely as well. 

Not sure what to make of Ms. Hart's involvement in the proceedings - I was starting to enjoy her so much more that this seemed like a real turn but I guess I don't mind her having varying  layers. 

I am also not as thrilled as I was a while ago with Milo.  It seems as if he and Watts want different things from their relationship but Milo was jealous of Jack & Watts while seeming to play down Watts' being jealous.  I hope they can work it out because I want Watts to be happy again but I fear that Milo may not be the end game for him. 

On 3/22/2022 at 4:58 PM, Trey said:

Episode 15.21 - Devil's Music

I agree that Milo is not the person for Watts.  I hope Watts realizes that and moves on.

I really enjoyed Crabtree and Brackenreid retracing Lead Belly's movements.  Brackenreid seems to like the seamier side of the city. Unfortunately, the real Lead Belly did not stay out of jail.

It was a good plot with an unexpected murderer.  I felt sorry for her and I believe Brackenreid did too.

On 3/25/2022 at 8:12 PM, marina to said:

Episode 15.21 - Devil's Music

Ms Hart has always seen Miss Bright as a pest and has never trusted her but saw the business opportunity in the salon. And now she finds out the person she set up to oversee her interests is involved with the person they are supposed to be overseeing? Not surprised she acted as she did. I didn't see any change to her character. The irony, of course, is that they are both a lot alike. She's not really enjoying seeing her own former actions from the outside. This is an interesting angle to play.

It's also in character for Milo to want all the attention. I like that fact that he's open about having more than one interest (poly represent!). But he was a brat about Jack and I would like to see Watts have a discussion with him about that. If it doesn't work for Watts, cool. I just don't want to see Milo set up as being bad just because he's poly.

I enjoyed this episode, especially the recreation of the steps.  I did not realise that Lead Belly was a real person, so I have been reading about him on Wikipedia.

I have been enjoying competent and likeable Mrs. Hart, but this development seems like she is going back to devious Mrs. Hart who tricked her husband into giving her all his money.  I'm still wondering about his docility and willingness to play bartender the last time we saw him, without making any kind of fuss.  Did she give him a lobotomy or something offscreen?

I don't care for Milo at all.  Watts just wants to be with someone, but Milo is clingy and possessive of Watts while at the same time expects that Watts will be accepting of his multiple boyfriends.  Watts needs to move on.

[blackwing]

On 3/28/2022 at 9:27 PM, Pepper the Cat said:

Episode 15.22 Sweet Amelia

This was such a great episode. Did not see any of the twists coming. 
loved it.

The scenes of Murdoch and his daughter were so cute!

Poor George!

I suspected the man “ helping” Margaret was up to no good but did not expect just how bad he was.

I think this was the best episode this season. 
 

PS Poor Watts.

On 3/28/2022 at 10:12 PM, auchic said:

15.22 - Sweet Amelia

Nnnn. Almost skipped this one, Amelia irritates me this much. But holy eff, that was a twist. Still glad Effie got to smack someone that looks like Amelia. Can we please stop putting George in danger from crazy women, though? The poor man has suffered enough! Please let George and Effie get married happily and without incident!

Holy eff again, for Margaret! I knew Charlie was bad news the whole time. I'm glad they convinced Bobby to come home and face it like a man. I flipped when Margaret got shot though; I love her to death.

I've never been a big fan of baby storylines but William reading the scientific names of animals to Susanna was just adorable. 

Swear to god, this show needs to stop dicking my poor Watts around! LET. WATTS. BE. HAPPY.

On 3/29/2022 at 12:38 PM, Trey said:

15.22 - Sweet Amelia

I too nearly gave this one a miss because of Amelia but I'm glad I watched.  I am happy that Amelia is dead and I hope that the next time Dorothy shows up someone just shoots her dead.And I hope Effie and George get married right away.

Margaret was really the star of the show.  She was so brave setting off for Windsor all by herself. It was obvious Charlie was up to something - once he said his son had died I knew it was one of the young men Bobby had killed. I had forgotten the circumstances of the two killings - I guess Bobby was not the hardened murderer I was thinking he was since one death was an accident and the other was self defence. I am glad he is going home to face whatever comes.

I don't know how Murdoch thought poor little Susannah could sleep with that light going on and off. It's a wonder she didn't have a seizure. 

I don't know the significance of the feather Watts took out of his hat and threw on the ground. Anyone?  It seemed to indicate that he was done with Milo but I could be wrong.

On 3/29/2022 at 3:10 PM, peacheslatour said:

My DH and I discussed this last night. My idea is that it was like the way guys used to wear an earring on the left or right to signify the preferences. He said it might like the way Hawaiian women wear a flower to let people know they're available.

Very enjoyable episode.  It was very obvious that the man helping Margaret was bad news.  So he overheard the name Robert Brackenreid and decided to follow her around?  If it was that easy to find Bobby, why didn't he do so long ago?  All the connections were his, and surely he could have gotten the initial piece of information of hers on his own.

So Amelia killed herself (because she felt bad about everything?) and Dorothy took her place and decides to seek revenge on George and Effie.  She blames them for her sister's troubles?  Ridiculous.  I hope Dorothy is found because I don't need to see this character again.

I hope this is the last we see of Milo Strange.  I don't get the appeal.  Why isn't Watts trying to find Jack?  Jack pushed Watts away because of his marriage, then was upset that Watts thought he killed his wife.  But the wife is gone, why wouldn't Watts try to look for Jack and reconcile?

As for the feather... it was a peacock feather in his cap.  He met Milo when Milo reported that his pet peacock was stolen.  He must have put a peacock feather in his cap because it is a token associated with Milo.  So by discarding the peacock feather, that signifies to me that he is done with Milo.  Good riddance.

[dargosmydaddy]

Just a reminder that Primetimers Award voting is up, and Murdoch Mysteries is nominated in a bunch of categories if anyone hasn't voted yet: https://forums.primetimer.com/forum/3310-annual-awards-show-the-primetimers/

[MerBearHou]

1 hour ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Just a reminder that Primetimers Award voting is up, and Murdoch Mysteries is nominated in a bunch of categories if anyone hasn't voted yet: https://forums.primetimer.com/forum/3310-annual-awards-show-the-primetimers/

Thanks for the reminder.  I voted!  Where Murdoch Mysteries was listed, there was only one category that I thought was actually quite mean and certainly didn't concur with how I feel about the MM character!!  

[dargosmydaddy]

29 minutes ago, MerBearHou said:

Where Murdoch Mysteries was listed, there was only one category that I thought was actually quite mean and certainly didn't concur with how I feel about the MM character!!  

If it was the Higgins one, I'm on your side!

[luvmylabs]

On 2/1/2022 at 12:29 PM, marnette said:

I don't like Harry, I hate to say it. I don't think he was a necessary addition to the show and he is so unlikeable. 

I hope we can see more of Jack and I love the idea of him living in a more welcoming environment. 

I can't wait to see the way Violet Hart's situation falls through!

What happened to Harry's mom?  Why was there no explanation of his sudden appearance?  Did I miss something?

[peacheslatour]

5 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Just a reminder that Primetimers Award voting is up, and Murdoch Mysteries is nominated in a bunch of categories if anyone hasn't voted yet: https://forums.primetimer.com/forum/3310-annual-awards-show-the-primetimers/

Yes! Get over there and vote! Watts is the most interesting side character in ages.

[MerBearHou]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Yes! Get over there and vote! Watts is the most interesting side character in ages.

Agreed!  I find myself rewinding so many of his little moments.  Daniel Maslany is having a blast with this role, especially the little physical movements and quirks he brings to the character.  Love Watts!  Milo Strange was a dalliance, an intriguing diversion, to take Watts’ attention away from longing for the unavailable Jack.  In a way, though it hurt, I like that Milo stayed true to who Milo is, even when Watts was disappointed or wanted more of a monogamous situation.  I know so many of us hope Llewellyn finds the right match - someone worthy of him and available.  

[Trey]

17 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

Thanks for the reminder.  I voted!  Where Murdoch Mysteries was listed, there was only one category that I thought was actually quite mean and certainly didn't concur with how I feel about the MM character!!  

Which category was that?

[MerBearHou]

Just now, Trey said:

Which category was that?

I forget how it was worded exactly but something like a character who is useless and you wish would just go away.  And the person to vote for was Constable Higgins.  I totally disagree with that, but some may concur. 

I think Higgins is amusing and fills a needed role -- the overall cast is just such a balance and everyone fills a great part in the whole.

[Trey]

I think he would be very much missed if he left.

He really fills in for George whenever he's away and when they are both there they work so well off each other.

[MerBearHou]

5 minutes ago, Trey said:

I think he would be very much missed if he left.

He really fills in for George whenever he's away and when they are both there they work so well off each other.

Agreed!  And I love his devotion to George and the team, his resigned willingness to tackle absurdly complicated tasks that William gives him, his very funny relationship with his Ruthie, his once-in-awhile displays of being quite competent, his little aside comments.  Higgins is important on this team so I would never vote that he's useless and should go away!  

[peacheslatour]

30 minutes ago, Trey said:

Which category was that?

Two categories - Will You Be My BFF and Favorite LGBT Character.

[dargosmydaddy]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

Two categories - Will You Be My BFF and Favorite LGBT Character.

Those were the categories Watts was (deservedly) nominated for. The OP was asking which nomination came off as "mean," which was Henry's inclusion in the Dispensable Character Who Could Vanish And No One Would Notice. 

George was also nominated for Favorite Character Who Doesn't Get Enough Screentime, and then the show as a whole had various nominations (best drama, best ensemble, best opening credits, etc.).

[peacheslatour]

6 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Those were the categories Watts was (deservedly) nominated for. The OP was asking which nomination came off as "mean," which was Henry's inclusion in the Dispensable Character Who Could Vanish And No One Would Notice. 

George was also nominated for Favorite Character Who Doesn't Get Enough Screentime, and then the show as a whole had various nominations (best drama, best ensemble, best opening credits, etc.).

Sorry, I've been a little upset today.

[blackwing]

On 4/5/2022 at 9:24 AM, Grundoon59 said:

Episode 15.23 - Pay the Piper

@auchic - right there with you.  I think I saw a moment in the preview where Brackenreid was speaking to Watts but not 100 % sure.  This incident better bring Milo to his senses though. 

A very jam-packed episode.  Almost too much going on.  Random thoughts: Is the Wexford plot going to tie into things at all?  Why was Effie's mother such a pill?  What was with all the references to George's past romances?  Who is Georges looking for in Toronto?  How does Brackenreid know Ms. Hart's father?  What's up with the Nanny?  Why go after Watts if William is the target because of his actions in Quebec?  Did we ever find out who the William dress-a-like was?  How many people are involved in the conspiracy against William?

I did enjoy the episode and look forward to next week even though it means no new episodes for awhile.  In particular I enjoyed how William seemed more and more paranoid as each new element was added - all could be explained away rationally but all could be part of a real attempt to kill him.  One part of my brain did wonder if it all could be a feverish nightmare that he was having since so much was going on but I am hoping that is not the case. 

I agree that there was too much going on, and part of the problem for me is that I feel like I missed an episode or have forgotten some details.  Who was the guy in the jail that Murdoch thinks was orchestrating everything?  When did we see him before?  I only vaguely remember the Montreal cop Georges from before... why is he here in Toronto?  Seems really random.  I don't recall George's ex-fiance Edna at all.

In the previous episode, Watts took out the peacock feather and angrily threw it away, signifying his intent to be done with Milo Strange.  And yet here we have the two of them happily chatting while Watts is following up leads on a case.  No explanation for Watt's change of heart.

I'm also very much confused about Mrs. Hart and Carmichael.  Carmichael doesn't seem to show any signs that he is being drugged to remain docile.  In fact, he seems more than willing to let Violet run his financial affairs.

The guy who showed up saying he is her father... is he actually her husband?  First she told Cassiopeia that she wanted to exit the business.  Then she tells the guy that she wants to keep it and that she will continue their financial arrangement.

Why would William tolerate the devious nanny?  He hears her on the phone telling someone when the Murdochs will be out of the house.  Demands to know why she was telling someone this and who it was.  She says "that's private" and then quits the job?  But then Julia re-hires her by paying her more money?  That makes zero sense to me.  William would have told Julia that he thinks the nanny is trying to arrange for the kidnapping of the baby.

[peacheslatour]

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Why would William tolerate the devious nanny?  He hears her on the phone telling someone when the Murdochs will be out of the house.  Demands to know why she was telling someone this and who it was.  She says "that's private" and then quits the job?  But then Julia re-hires her by paying her more money?  That makes zero sense to me.  William would have told Julia that he thinks the nanny is trying to arrange for the kidnapping of the baby.

Hear, hear!

[statsgirl]

Re-hiring the nanny makes no sense at all. There must be a number women that they could hire since jobs for women were scarce.

I like that Milo didn't change himself for Watts but I have no fondness for the character at all. I wish I could have nominated him for 'character who could most easily be dropped' in the Primetimer Awards

On 6/23/2022 at 8:55 PM, luvmylabs said:

What happened to Harry's mom?  Why was there no explanation of his sudden appearance?  Did I miss something?

They said that he was on vacation to visit  his father and was going back to his mother the next day.

[Prevailing Wind]

Episode 15.18 - Patriot Game

Well, that was fun. Even Meyers was tolerable. I loved Brackenreid's "What a woman!" and then embracing Margaret while the ballerina lay on the ground, cautioned not to move. LOL

ETA: I am really enjoying this forum more now that we're referring to the episode number/title in each post. THANKS to whomever it was that suggested it and KUDOS to everyone for following along.

Edited June 28, 2022 by Prevailing Wind

[blackwing]

On 6/23/2022 at 7:55 PM, luvmylabs said:

What happened to Harry's mom?  Why was there no explanation of his sudden appearance?  Did I miss something?

19 hours ago, statsgirl said:

They said that he was on vacation to visit  his father and was going back to his mother the next day.

Presumably she is still in England, where they had fled to avoid the Black Hand gang.  I don't think they mentioned her at all or what she is doing.  Is the gang still trying to kill her?  I thought the gang had eyes everywhere.  I was surprised that they didn't say anything about why it was ok for Harry to board a ship by himself (if he had an adult handler/guardian, then a throwaway line from William or Julia about meeting Harry and the guardian at the shipyard would have been nice).  If the gang is still interested in her, I would think kidnapping a solo travelling boy would have been an easy way to get to her.

[blackwing]

On 4/11/2022 at 9:46 PM, statsgirl said:

Season 15 Ep 24 Close Encounters

LOL at Checkov's pretzel, Madison Meats and Checkhov's pelican.

Cliff-hangers galore: will Watts return? What does Aunt Chrysanthemum have to say about the wedding?

Murdoch give Ogden a button to summon him in case of emergency. I was expecting a gun, and then I remembered that this is a Canadian show.

I'm glad that Murdoch was right about the priest's Latin

I want someone fabulous for Watts. someone like Pree on Killjoys. Or Thom Allison's new role on Coroner. Milo just dreams of being like Pree. (Trivia: Clare McConnell (Effie Newsome) was also on Killjoys playing Evi Robbel of Land Robbel.)

On 4/11/2022 at 10:43 PM, auchic said:

Episode 15.24 - Close Encounters

Man, I was as freaked out as Julia when Frank Rhodes had Susanna.  She saved the day with the pelican!

I thought George and Effie's story was quite sweet. She showed him that she loves what a dork he is. Plus they solved a crime! I did not recognize Effie's ex-husband last episode, but then again, it was a tiresome Newsome episode, so I didn't pay attention.

With all the talk of George's ex-sweethearts last episode, I have to wonder if we're supposed to think it's one of them stopping the wedding. I wonder what Aunt Chrysanthemum's issue is.

What was up with Mrs. Hart and her husband? Was he insinuating that she killed him or does he think it was Ms. Bright? I'm a little disappointed with their relationship this season; the end of last season promised good things with regards to those two.

Oh Watts. Please please please say he's coming back.

I haven't watched either show, so I googled Thom Allison and just on a shallow basis, I completely agree!!!

On 4/12/2022 at 9:23 AM, Grundoon59 said:

Season 14.24 - Close Encounters

Given all the plot lines that needed to be dealt with, it did feel a little overstuffed but generally an enjoyable episode.  But it was so crowded that I kept wondering if I was missing something.

I did like the George/Effie story line - it was a good mix of fantasy and reality.  Also loved Effie's father's mashed potato tower that no one directly commented on.  Whoever is disrupting the wedding has to be someone known to both of them - I know she went to meet George's aunts but are they ever all in the same place?  Could it be the ex-husband? Or heaven forbid Amelia's sister (sorry can't remember her name - having foggy brain at the moment)?

Glad Higgins made it in time for the wedding - I previously wondered if they were at Kellogg's Battle Creek facilities - nice to have it somewhat confirmed. 

Happy Montreal Georges proved dependable and that the Murdochs triumphed together.  Long live the Pelican.

Are we supposed to know what the reality is of how Mrs. Hart's father died?  Also what happens to his share of the salon?

Over the moon that Watts survived, pleased that Milo realizes (maybe too late) what a good man he is, concerned that given the Watts/Brackenreid confrontation there may not be a way for Watts to return to Station House 4.  Also I am not sure how Jack returns to Toronto since he has no real claim to the child he essentially kidnapped. 

I appreciate a good cliffhanger for a season finale (and this was one on many levels) but ever since Frankie Drake went out on one that became a series finale, I get very nervous.  Any word if there will be a season 16 yet? 

I fully agree that this episode felt like it had too much in it.  I too felt like I missed some scenes.  I feel like a lot of the episode ended up on the cutting room floor.

I started out being confused when Watts got up from the street, went to the hotel, got shot at through the door, but then yet somehow was able to just stride into the room and arrest the shooter?  Why wouldn't the shooter have shot some more at him?

I'm glad that Murdoch, Julia and Susannah are ok, but they made some really poor choices and they got lucky.  If I were Murdoch I would have arrested the nanny, she was possibly committing conspiracy to a kidnapping... which it turned out, she was.  Then they know that she had told someone about them, there's this priest that can't speak Latin, and they don't even think to call up the church and inquire about him?  After Frank Rhodes escaped, shouldn't the first thing Murdoch did have been to put an armed guard on Julia's room at t the hotel where she was staying?

I'm still a bit confused as to why Georges from Montreal was there, other than to be a red herring.

And I don't know what to make about Mrs. Hart's dad.  He mentioned that she was married before (or possibly still married).  There were four people who would benefit from him being dead (Violet, Carmichael, Cassiopeia, Brackenreid).  He got stabbed in the neck with Brackenreid's cravat pin (I think?) and it's clear one of the four killed him.  I'm guessing it's Violet.  She killed him because he was going to tell Carmichael she was already married and thus their marriage is invalid and she has no claim to his money?  I don't know what is going on here.

I'm also most disappointed that there wasn't more explanation of the relationship between Violet and Carmichael.  She was actively drugging him in the early episodes of this season to keep him in line and so he would sign over his money to her..  Now he is just completely docile?  Makes little sense to me.

Lastly, George and Effie's wedding and the mystery intruder.  The most likely candidates are Dorothy or Roderick.  But I would absolutely love if it were Emily Grace!

[andromeda331]

I love Brackenraid with the internet. He was having so much fun. I liked him, Julia and the other women on the train. I also liked him helping Violet investigate in Bloodlines. 

I liked some people thought Freud was a quack. I always thought he was.

Happy that William and Julia finally have a child together. But I had been hoping they would adopted. I liked William putting Jordan in jail and then getting stuck in there.  

[Linda956]

At the end of the season finale, it looks like Watts has left Toronto for New York.  Does anyone know if Daniel Maslany is going to be in the next season or has he left the show?  I hope not as he's my favorite character and I too, would like to see him find someone.

[statsgirl]

On 6/28/2022 at 2:43 PM, blackwing said:

I'm also most disappointed that there wasn't more explanation of the relationship between Violet and Carmichael.  She was actively drugging him in the early episodes of this season to keep him in line and so he would sign over his money to her..  Now he is just completely docile?  Makes little sense to me.

Little about Violet makes sense to me which is why I can't warm to her.  First she's an ambitious woman determined to better herself, then she's a cutthroat wanting to steal the limelight of Julia who helped her, then shes aiding a murder, then manipulating and drugging her rich husband, forcing the owner of a club to make her a partner, unknown husband suddenly arriving, occasional help to the police.

And no explanation for any of it.

[andromeda331]

5 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Little about Violet makes sense to me which is why I can't warm to her.  First she's an ambitious woman determined to better herself, then she's a cutthroat wanting to steal the limelight of Julia who helped her, then shes aiding a murder, then manipulating and drugging her rich husband, forcing the owner of a club to make her a partner, unknown husband suddenly arriving, occasional help to the police.

And no explanation for any of it.

That's my problem with her. I don't know who she's suppose to be. It feels like the show doesn't either. If she was amibitious that would have been fun and a lot of things she did would make sense. But then suddenly they seem to set her up against Julia and William and she aids framing Brackenraid's son John for murder. Where we suppose to like her for that? I didn't. William had a very good reason not to trust her after that. Then she aids with the murder of Robert who was very likable. Nothing happens with either one. She keeps her job and everyone's cool with her. She drugs her husband, then stops drugging him and it looks like he's going to get revenge or something but nothing happens. Her interactions with the club owner at first was clearly dislike and didn't want to help her at all. Did she know her and didn't like her? Did she think it would somehow mess up her new life? Did she not want to think of what she had to do to get where she was? Who knows. Suddenly, she forces her to make her a partner. But once again we don't get a why. Nothing makes any sense. 

Edited July 2, 2022 by andromeda331

[Prevailing Wind]

The PT Awards are in the second round and none of the MM nominees made the cut, including that cruel one with Higgins.

[Prevailing Wind]

15.19 - Brother Can You Spare a Crime?

I called it that the brother did it, but I thought it was going to be because Opal and Henrietta were having an affair.

Good to see Margaret smiling.  And while I adore Watts, I really do miss George.  Harris has been doing "Still Standing" for years - why is he absent so much this year?

[Prevailing Wind]

Episode 15.19 - Pendrick's Planetary Parlour

In addition to the things folks have already mentioned, Brackenreid falling for a Nigerian Prince scam was hilarious. "It's coming from Niagara."  "Nigeria." "No, Niagara, like the Falls." LOL

[marina to]

On 6/28/2022 at 2:43 PM, blackwing said:

Then they know that she had told someone about them, there's this priest that can't speak Latin, and they don't even think to call up the church and inquire about him?

There's a throwaway line in Pay the Piper where Julia said she called the church to inquire about what had happen to the regular priest and they confirmed there was a substitute priest named Father Rockford. 

[Prevailing Wind]

Acorn has a series of "Aftershow" videos, about 12 minutes long, where Michael Seater (Gillies) hosts - 3 stars of the show are seated in chairs and he has them talk a little bit about acting on the show and then has a trivia contest. The chairs are in front of bookshelves with those green-shaded lamps and a framed picture.  When Watts was on with Margaret & Henry, when it came time for the trivia, he said he needed his good luck charm and fetched the photograph from the shelves. It's that formal portrait of Constable Jackson.  Maslany hugged to himself throughout the trivia portion. I thought that was awfully sweet.

They talked about Harry getting his first kiss (from the science fair girl) and then Seater asked if the actors can remember their first kiss.  Maslany said he's actually married to her. They were high school sweethearts and there's never been anyone else.    I hope they continue to be sweethearts for many, many years.  Now, if Watts could only find a sweetheart...

ETA: In the final episode interviews, Jonny Harris says he has no idea who's interrupting the wedding and he's not sure the writers and/or the show runner know, either. LOL.

Edited August 1, 2022 by Prevailing Wind

[MerBearHou]

35 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

When Watts was on with Margaret & Henry, when it came time for the trivia, he said he needed his good luck charm and fetched the photograph from the shelves. It's that formal portrait of Constable Jackson.  Maslany hugged to himself throughout the trivia portion. I thought that was awfully sweet.

Awww, that is very sweet to read.  I continue to miss Constable Jackson.  Such a mistake killing him off.  I love the actor (Kristian Bruun) too.  Daniel Maslany is a gem and I love hearing about his sweetheart / now wife.

[limecoke]

This might be unpopular but any episode involving James Pendrick and/or Terence Myers bores me senseless. They’re just ridiculous and played out. Other than that, I love MM.

[andromeda331]

4 hours ago, limecoke said:

This might be unpopular but any episode involving James Pendrick and/or Terence Myers bores me senseless. They’re just ridiculous and played out. Other than that, I love MM.

Same here. I used to really like their stories the first few times but quickly tired of them.

[blackwing]

On 8/9/2022 at 9:53 PM, limecoke said:

This might be unpopular but any episode involving James Pendrick and/or Terence Myers bores me senseless. They’re just ridiculous and played out. Other than that, I love MM.

On 8/10/2022 at 2:41 AM, andromeda331 said:

Same here. I used to really like their stories the first few times but quickly tired of them.

I don't care for Terence Meyers at all... or any storyline which involve political intrigue.  I'm dreading the return of Allen Clegg.  

I also don't care for Ralph Fellowes, I think he's played out as well.

I'm bored by James Pendrick too, although I did highly enjoy the escape room episode, the puzzles in the escape room were cool.

[MerBearHou]

In this order, I enjoy James Pendrick, don't mind Terrence Meyers, loathe Ralph Fellowes (the character and I think the actor is miscast).

[limecoke]

I really enjoyed the puzzle room episode and am weirdly glad that Julia got her pelican back. I’m behind everyone else (in season 14), but am already dreading the, I assume, multiple appearances of Ralph Fellowes.🤦🏻‍♀️

[Prevailing Wind]

2 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

In this order, I enjoy James Pendrick, don't mind Terrence Meyers, loathe Ralph Fellowes (the character and I think the actor is miscast).

My opinions, as well.  Not to mention the detestable Allen Clegg.  There's a writer on the show named Graham Clegg, but I don't care enough to discover if he wrote the Clegg episodes or not.

[Prevailing Wind]

New season airs Sept 12th on CBC

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