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S08.E37: Secrets Revealed


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I feel that we will never get a REAL secrets episode. A real secrets episode would air how many times Kail physically abused her partners, how much Juhnelle and David fought the night before their wedding plus him abusing her non David children, Leah admitting to being addicted to pillses, and Chelsea and Cole not always agreeing 100% with each other.

 

never gonna happen!

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2 minutes ago, druzy said:

Finally Leah admits to TR Dues! Apparently he wasn't contributing financially.

Kail just walked off and said she wasn't coming back. Nessa said don't worry Kail will be back.?

What is TR Dues real name?

Theodore Dues, according to:

https://heavy.com/entertainment/2015/08/theodore-t-r-dues-leah-messer-boyfriend-name-dating-who-new-is-girlfriend-divorced/

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Jenelle saying in her dead voice “All my tattoos are random except that I have ‘this too shall pass’ on my abdomen because I got it when I was going through stuff with the heroin and I had a lot of stomach problems” might be my favorite moment ever on this show. In the throws of heroin addiction she got a tattoo saying ‘this too shall pass’ because of her stomach issues?? 

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37 minutes ago, druzy said:

Deer Cam Robby is married to Leah's cousin. 

WHAT?! NO WAY! 

21 minutes ago, TeeMo said:

Jenelle saying in her dead voice “All my tattoos are random except that I have ‘this too shall pass’ on my abdomen because I got it when I was going through stuff with the heroin and I had a lot of stomach problems” might be my favorite moment ever on this show. In the throws of heroin addiction she got a tattoo saying ‘this too shall pass’ because of her stomach issues?? 

Idiot

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39 minutes ago, TeeMo said:

The only semi-revealing and somewhat surprising thing in this show was when Leah talked about her true love for Corey versus Jeremy being more of a rebound.

Really?!?! Methinks she is lying to herself. When she was with Corey she acted like she couldn't stand him. If anything, he was the rebound from Robbie that she got (unhappily) stuck with. I think the pillses must've really turned her brain around. I really didn't see that she ever had any really love or even lust for Corey, not even on an immature teen level. I think she's more bummed that he married another woman and wouldn't leave her, even after he stupidly slept with her. Just a blow to her ego.

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1 hour ago, littleB1rdy said:

I haven’t watched this yet. Did Leah finally admit to having an addiction? Did Chelsea talk more about sleeping with Adam’s best friend while pregnant? Did Kail announce the first time she hooked up with Chris? Did Jenelle admit to pooping in Courtland’s bath tub while he was in jail and not cleaning it up? 

I don't recall Leah admitting to her addiction.

I never heard the rumor about Chelsea sleeping with adam's best friend while pregnant- please tell!

Kail said she fell in love with Chris while separated from Javi but didn't say when they slept together.

Jenelle didn't mention the bathtub incident.

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12 hours ago, TeeMo said:

Jenelle saying in her dead voice “All my tattoos are random except that I have ‘this too shall pass’ on my abdomen because I got it when I was going through stuff with the heroin and I had a lot of stomach problems” might be my favorite moment ever on this show. In the throws of heroin addiction she got a tattoo saying ‘this too shall pass’ because of her stomach issues?? 

I hear heroin addiction causes constipation so it seems appropriate.

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4 hours ago, HeySandyStrange said:

Really?!?! Methinks she is lying to herself. When she was with Corey she acted like she couldn't stand him. If anything, he was the rebound from Robbie that she got (unhappily) stuck with. I think the pillses must've really turned her brain around. I really didn't see that she ever had any really love or even lust for Corey, not even on an immature teen level. I think she's more bummed that he married another woman and wouldn't leave her, even after he stupidly slept with her. Just a blow to her ego.

I agree with you. I think she resented Corey and if she hadn’t conceived the twins that night in the pickup truck they would’ve lasted a few weeks tops. I think she did actually have feelings for Jeremy but couldn’t hold it together. 

Corey choosing to stay with his wife, even after having access to Leah’s magical vagina was a blow to her ego. Often pretty (but not so bright) young girls assume sex will keep men (because they’ve gotten so much attention from young guys wanting to sleep with them) that they get UPSET when they aren’t “choosen”, especially if said chosen woman is perceived to be lower on the social hierarchy than they are. 

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4 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I agree with you. I think she resented Corey and if she hadn’t conceived the twins that night in the pickup truck they would’ve lasted a few weeks tops. I think she did actually have feelings for Jeremy but couldn’t hold it together. 

Corey choosing to stay with his wife, even after having access to Leah’s magical vagina was a blow to her ego. Often pretty (but not so bright) young girls assume sex will keep men (because they’ve gotten so much attention from young guys wanting to sleep with them) that they get UPSET when they aren’t “choosen”, especially if said chosen woman is perceived to be lower on the social hierarchy than they are. 

Agreed. Now that I think about it, I wonder if her revisionist history of Corey=her one truw lurve and Jeremy was the rebound was her playing mind games. We know she didn't want to divorce Jerm, she flirted with him every chance she got, and played some ol' hide the pickle with him, so I think she might be pissy Jeremy never took her back and wants to stick it to him. And she gets to needle Corey and Miranda, win-win for her. I figured her bitchy, passive aggressive side hasn't completely disappeared.

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16 hours ago, TeeMo said:

Jenelle saying in her dead voice “All my tattoos are random except that I have ‘this too shall pass’ on my abdomen because I got it when I was going through stuff with the heroin and I had a lot of stomach problems” might be my favorite moment ever on this show. In the throws of heroin addiction she got a tattoo saying ‘this too shall pass’ because of her stomach issues?? 

What a moron. What a terrible reason to get a tattoo...because you're constipated from opioid addiction. Also, that all her tattoos are random is somewhat less than secret. WE KNOW, we can tell.

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2 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I agree with you. I think she resented Corey and if she hadn’t conceived the twins that night in the pickup truck they would’ve lasted a few weeks tops. I think she did actually have feelings for Jeremy but couldn’t hold it together. 

Corey choosing to stay with his wife, even after having access to Leah’s magical vagina was a blow to her ego. Often pretty (but not so bright) young girls assume sex will keep men (because they’ve gotten so much attention from young guys wanting to sleep with them) that they get UPSET when they aren’t “choosen”, especially if said chosen woman is perceived to be lower on the social hierarchy than they are. 

Girl. Preach!!! Every word of this is so true. Makes me think about a dorky guy I met in my early twenties who was in medical school. I was fresh off an adam-type relationship, and thought, "if I snag a doctor, it'll show HIM! He'll realize I'm valuable and he shouldn't have treated me terribly!" The dorky guy had never had a girlfriend, and he attributed it to his looks, and was shocked beyond belief that someone like me (and I'm not a model!) would ever consider him. He started out really infatuated, and then started to pull away. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of throwing sex at him, convinced that such a magical experience would make him stay. I bet many girls have made that mistake when young and dumb, but I was ridiculously shocked that he kept pulling away! He talked to my friend about how he could see himself marrying me, but had really deep issues with commitment. Now, he is engaged to a dorky girl who has a child, so he must have gotten over those issues! But I definitely think this is a common mistake for young, naive girls, for the reasons you said. Guys seem so desperate for sex that you assume giving it to them will be like the golden ticket for them, but it rarely works that way. And then you have idiotic older men saying things like, "all you have to do to make a guy happy is cook for him and have sex!" Who knows...maybe they are more complex than that?! Anyway, I'm glad I had that experience early in life, so I could learn and never make that mistake again. I really worked on myself and got over my self-esteem issues and my ex, and found myself in a very happy relationship a couple years later, with a couple of shorter but decent relationships along the way!

Honestly though, I wish that ALL of these girls could experience a time to be single and working on themselves. They could all benefit from it! Jenelle needs it the most, obviously. If she could be single for a year or so, she could work on things with Barb and get to know her kids, and who she herself is as a person. Kail needs to reflect on what went wrong with all three of her baby daddies, and evaluate what personality type she does best with, and which ones are toxic. Leah hopefully has done some work while single...I guess we'll see how well-adjusted she is with the new guy, and if she still acts to immature. Chelsea really could have used some truly single time to fix her self-esteem before Cole...not pining over adam, but single in her mind...so Cole wouldn't have to validate her insecurities so much. And bri would maybe realize, without guys in the picture, that she is worth so much more than she accepts right now! She needs to figure out why she is okay accepting the lowest common denominator type dude. She obviously isn't happy since she expects him to turn into husband material! Bri needs to figure out how to be the classy lady who can raise her standards and attract a decent guy. 

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2 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Girl. Preach!!! Every word of this is so true. Makes me think about a dorky guy I met in my early twenties who was in medical school. I was fresh off an adam-type relationship, and thought, "if I snag a doctor, it'll show HIM! He'll realize I'm valuable and he shouldn't have treated me terribly!" The dorky guy had never had a girlfriend, and he attributed it to his looks, and was shocked beyond belief that someone like me (and I'm not a model!) would ever consider him. He started out really infatuated, and then started to pull away. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of throwing sex at him, convinced that such a magical experience would make him stay. I bet many girls have made that mistake when young and dumb, but I was ridiculously shocked that he kept pulling away! He talked to my friend about how he could see himself marrying me, but had really deep issues with commitment. Now, he is engaged to a dorky girl who has a child, so he must have gotten over those issues! But I definitely think this is a common mistake for young, naive girls, for the reasons you said. Guys seem so desperate for sex that you assume giving it to them will be like the golden ticket for them, but it rarely works that way. And then you have idiotic older men saying things like, "all you have to do to make a guy happy is cook for him and have sex!" Who knows...maybe they are more complex than that?! Anyway, I'm glad I had that experience early in life, so I could learn and never make that mistake again. I really worked on myself and got over my self-esteem issues and my ex, and found myself in a very happy relationship a couple years later, with a couple of shorter but decent relationships along the way!

Honestly though, I wish that ALL of these girls could experience a time to be single and working on themselves. They could all benefit from it! Jenelle needs it the most, obviously. If she could be single for a year or so, she could work on things with Barb and get to know her kids, and who she herself is as a person. Kail needs to reflect on what went wrong with all three of her baby daddies, and evaluate what personality type she does best with, and which ones are toxic. Leah hopefully has done some work while single...I guess we'll see how well-adjusted she is with the new guy, and if she still acts to immature. Chelsea really could have used some truly single time to fix her self-esteem before Cole...not pining over adam, but single in her mind...so Cole wouldn't have to validate her insecurities so much. And bri would maybe realize, without guys in the picture, that she is worth so much more than she accepts right now! She needs to figure out why she is okay accepting the lowest common denominator type dude. She obviously isn't happy since she expects him to turn into husband material! Bri needs to figure out how to be the classy lady who can raise her standards and attract a decent guy. 

Every young person makes mistakes growing up. That’s a part of life. But if you have two ounces of common sense you don’t make the same mistake over. And over. And over. Like ALL of the TMs have done (Chelsea just repeated her Adam mistake again with Adam).

If Leah can stay CLEAN, and develops some self esteem (out side of being a mom to a kid with a chronic disorder- that does worry me. The martyr Mommy is a big trope in the disability world.), and manages her money well she will be okay. Jeremy was never going to take Leah back for good; she is probably salty about that but I don’t think she was ever MADLY in love with him. I do think she did love Robbie.

 

Having a romantic relationship with a man is still very much a stats symbol for pre-menopausal women. I fully acknowledge and understand that need for partnered sex (it’s pesky!) but these women are not having Safe consensual relationships that don’t negatively affect their entire life- they let a guy in and he’s like a tornado of destruction!!!

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8 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Every young person makes mistakes growing up. That’s a part of life. But if you have two ounces of common sense you don’t make the same mistake over. And over. And over. Like ALL of the TMs have done (Chelsea just repeated her Adam mistake again with Adam).

If Leah can stay CLEAN, and develops some self esteem (out side of being a mom to a kid with a chronic disorder- that does worry me. The martyr Mommy is a big trope in the disability world.), and manages her money well she will be okay. Jeremy was never going to take Leah back for good; she is probably salty about that but I don’t think she was ever MADLY in love with him. I do think she did love Robbie.

 

Having a romantic relationship with a man is still very much a stats symbol for pre-menopausal women. I fully acknowledge and understand that need for partnered sex (it’s pesky!) but these women are not having Safe consensual relationships that don’t negatively affect their entire life- they let a guy in and he’s like a tornado of destruction!!!

Yes!!! And they don't even have the limitations normal teen moms do. I could see the average teen mom, who has to work three jobs but is still broke, and doesn't have time to eat right or work out, settling for the first available guy in hopes he'll solve their financial worries. Teen moms in the real world also have trouble attracting guys (something I think this show is terrible at getting across). All of them said things on 16 and pregnant or the first season about how they'd have to wait a long time for love, but that all changed with the fame! Most teen moms also need a man to be comfortable financially, so they will jump on someone from the limited pool they have. However, these moms have quality guys begging them for dates, and don't have to worry about money anyway. Why are they settling for such losers? Just shows that money can't get you over your issues (unless you spend it on a therapist!). 

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39 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

However, these moms have quality guys begging them for dates, and don't have to worry about money anyway. Why are they settling for such losers? Just shows that money can't get you over your issues (unless you spend it on a therapist!). 

A-men!! Teen moms are so vulnerable to domestic violence, emotional abuse, sexual assault etc because they might not have resources or physical help for their kids not tied to the guy. I get that. No person deserves that- but these girls aren’t in that position what so ever. As dysfunctional as the coven is, Briana has never had to fear that her mom and sister would stand by why some guy abused her.

 

Having money and being pretty are great! I don’t begrudge someone wanting both, but they won’t buy you happiness and it won’t make you love yourself if you aren’t happy with your INSIDE. 

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On 9/13/2018 at 8:44 PM, Blissfool said:

The info I found to be the MOST interesting is that Devoin IS pronounced just as it is spelled...Devoin. Brianna just refuses to say it that way. Can't say that I blame her!

Finally got around to watching, and I have to admit, I actually enjoyed Briana. She was funny & oddly self aware. "I went to Dr. Miami because I wanted a porn star body, realized how ridiculous I looked & went back to get the shit deflated."  Then she's like "obviously I lie to my mom...she's batshit!". It was refreshing!

It's sad to see that the original girls seemed to all be close, INCLUDING Jenelle. She really could benefit from that support system I think (yes, even Karl), but David will never allow it. Sad!

Man Leah had some epic hair-don'ts. I mean they ALL have, but more along the lines of "oh Chelsea & your chunky highlights & weird bangs". They went "trendy" which always makes you cringe years later, but Leah went straight up "65 year old pageant grandma" with several of her hairstyles. She looks younger now than she did 5 years ago. 

ETA: TR Dues looks rough yo'. Total boy butterface. 

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On ‎9‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 9:04 PM, TeeMo said:

Jenelle saying in her dead voice “All my tattoos are random except that I have ‘this too shall pass’ on my abdomen because I got it when I was going through stuff with the heroin and I had a lot of stomach problems” might be my favorite moment ever on this show. In the throws of heroin addiction she got a tattoo saying ‘this too shall pass’ because of her stomach issues?? 

THIS!  I came to this forum first before all my other show forums just to laugh at this.  She can never take any responsibility and always has to throw in a lie or something to make her a victim.  She is literally the least self aware person...EVER.

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