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We can see Debra rewriting history over and over. She claimed she never hit Farrah.  We all saw that.

I think it depends on what Debra considers hitting. I saw her slap Farrah's shoulder with the back of her hand to get her to shut the fuck up with her anti-Christ attitude. The slap in Farrah's face was never shown. People could argue a slap and a hit are two different things. In Farrah's mind, she certainly can make something bigger than it really is or fully twist the truth, as we know she has such as the porn, the DUI, and just reading what she puts out there as far as her being the biggest reality star ever. Delusions of grandeur. 

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4 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Farrah has also claimed she never made a porn tape. She also denied driving under the influence when she was arrested for a DUI. She said she was parked. I can't take what Farrah dishes out. If Farrah was hurt by any guys, I am shocked that she has never said anything since she has no problem dishing out so many other so-called private details of her life. She also claimed Michael and Debra abused her. According to "Dr. Jenn" Farrah's abuse is the worst abuse she has ever heard. Really? The worst ever? And yet, Farrah leaves her child with the people who have abused her more than any other children ever. 

 

She also claimed she was "almost" raped by an Uber driver, and was raped by James Deen because he wanted to break her and ruin her career.  Not sure what career she was referring to, or how raping her would accomplish those things.

http://perezhilton.com/2015-12-07-farrah-abraham-james-deen-rape-allegations/?from=post#.WP5hrojysuU

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Just now, Snarky McSnarky said:

She also claimed she was "almost" raped by an Uber driver, and was raped by James Deen because he wanted to break her and ruin her career.  Not sure what career she was referring to, or how raping her would accomplish those things.

http://perezhilton.com/2015-12-07-farrah-abraham-james-deen-rape-allegations/?from=post#.WP5hrojysuU

I seriously hate, hate anyone who accuses anyone of rape when it is not true. Farrah also claimed she had been drugged and taken advantage of during her stints at the adult clubs: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/farrah-abraham-rape_n_4732824.html

You know, I can see someone being taken advantaged of like at an adult club where drinks and drugs are running rampant. I would like to believe Farrah's claims regarding that, but I think she is more about having the label "rape survivor" to add to her list of labels of victimhood. As much as I appreciate society opening up about people being victims and removing stigmas of people who have been victimized as children and adults, I feel there are people who take advantage, such as Kail and Farrah, and use it to give excuses for their behavior, to get adoration, sympathy, and victimhood status. It is one reason I give side-eye to Kail's first book and one of many reasons why I would never want to read it. Until she openly admits she is an abuser, a user, a manipulator, and acknowledges what she has done in life to harm people, I won't believe a word of her claims. 

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On 1/11/2017 at 11:52 AM, Snarky McSnarky said:

 

On 1/10/2017 at 8:36 PM, Court said:

Ah, OK. I agree Sophia is not a typical child. Does she socialize with other kids? But I think Farrah got the horse because Sophia asked for it. 

Honest question: for an emotional support animal, would that animal accompany the owner everywhere? Or just dependent on situation? 

Is it confirmed somewhere that it is a service/support animal? Or are we just assuming that's the case.

It was confirmed to me by a very credible source.  There's nothing to link to online.    

 

Ok I thought I remembered someone confirming that Starburst is a therapy horse. Was there any info about this on the episode last night?

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No mention of Starburst being a therapy horse, but if she is I bet Farrah did the paperwork after buying her and discovering her HOA didn't allow livestock. You know she wasn't going to admit she was wrong and return the horse to a life of happiness so voilà--therapy horse!

This is only tangentially related to Farrah, but someone I'm related to (by blood sadly) just asked on Facebook if anyone was getting the paper-view fight.

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16 hours ago, Birdee said:

 

This is only tangentially related to Farrah, but someone I'm related to (by blood sadly) just asked on Facebook if anyone was getting the paper-view fight.

Dead!

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This is only tangentially related to Farrah, but someone I'm related to (by blood sadly) just asked on Facebook if anyone was getting the paper-view fight.

lmao

I prefer the television view myself. 

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2 minutes ago, IgnoranceisBLISS said:

I haven't watched Marriage Boot Camp in years but I will be sitting front and center with a bowl of popcorn for this season. I saw the previews and loved the comebacks that the cast was throwing Farrah's way. 

agreed, I hate the stupid "drills" that they do, but I like when the real drama comes to the surface

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On 4/24/2017 at 4:39 PM, Snarky McSnarky said:

She also claimed she was "almost" raped by an Uber driver, and was raped by James Deen because he wanted to break her and ruin her career.  Not sure what career she was referring to, or how raping her would accomplish those things.

http://perezhilton.com/2015-12-07-farrah-abraham-james-deen-rape-allegations/?from=post#.WP5hrojysuU

A porn star can be raped in the course of filming a porn.  She may have agreed to do A, B and C - but then he threw in a D, E, and F.  It wouldn't be the first time James Deen was accused of sexual assault.  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/rocco-siffredi-on-the-james-deen-rape-allegations-if-he-has-a-black-soul-i-m-not-sure.html

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51 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

True, but If I recall correctly, she didn't accuse Deen of raping her until those allegations came out. 

Neither did 9(?) other women. 

Or the scores of women that were raped by Bill Cosby. 

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She's batshit crazy on Boot Camp. Interfering in everyone else's stories. One of the Situation's brothers went after her about the sex tape (he seems to be a sexist asshole, btw). Michael then repeated his macho shit from the reunion and tried to fight him. 

There's something SO wrong with this family.  She may or may not make things up. I tend to believe some of it because she got this way somehow. That horror house in Iowa is holding lots of secrets.  

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9 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

She's batshit crazy on Boot Camp. Interfering in everyone else's stories. One of the Situation's brothers went after her about the sex tape (he seems to be a sexist asshole, btw). Michael then repeated his macho shit from the reunion and tried to fight him. 

There's something SO wrong with this family.  She may or may not make things up. I tend to believe some of it because she got this way somehow. That horror house in Iowa is holding lots of secrets.  

 So, um, should I be DVRing and watching this Boot Camp show? It sounds much more entertaining than TMOG? Where do I find it (and/or the link to its forum)?

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The rooms were meant to evoke 'emotions'.  Lol  The counselors watched everyone enter their their rooms.  They commented on Deb saying she was embarrassed of Farrah's sex tape but she seemed to embrace the sex items in the room.  They thought she was trying to avoid a confrontation.  I don't agree, I really think Deb and her mental stability might just be the core of Farrah's dysfunction.

They talked about the fight deb got arrested for.  Deb seriously said Farrah just had 'a little speck of blood on her lip'.  She said Farrah had her in headlock and said she wanted to kill her.  (Probably after her mother busted her lip and waiting on the cops to come, I imagine.)  Farrah said the cops held a gun to her mother's head.  It was crazy, I can't do it justice.  Michael got called out for not sticking up for Farrah and he seemed 'unattached emotionally'.  He agreed.  He said that's how he learned to survive.

Deb also said he had 21 affairs while they were married.  He said he had affairs, just not 22.  It made think Farrah was being truthful about her mom sneaking strange men into the home.  This show is weird.  I think having all 3 of them there though, might just shed some light on what goes on between them.  Farrah seems to have eased up on Michael some and cut her mother off on TMOG.  It might be this show that set that in motion.  I don't know but I'm hooked.

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Thank you MissMel for taking one for the team, or at least me, and watching then reporting back.  I just don't think I can do it.   It's not good for my own mental health!  :-)

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No problem!  I'm familiar with everyone on the show except Ochocinco and his mother.  They managed to suck me in too, though.  I just think having both of Farrah's parents there for the whole time, this time, is very interesting.  She can't manipulate her way around all these folks like she did/does with Dr.Jen.  Don't get me wrong-I don't believe for one second this is any type of therapy.  LOL  It should be fun and entertaining to watch so I'm in. 

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1 hour ago, MissMel said:

No problem!  I'm familiar with everyone on the show except Ochocinco and his mother.  They managed to suck me in too, though.  I just think having both of Farrah's parents there for the whole time, this time, is very interesting.  She can't manipulate her way around all these folks like she did/does with Dr.Jen.  Don't get me wrong-I don't believe for one second this is any type of therapy.  LOL  It should be fun and entertaining to watch so I'm in. 

Thank you!  Keep posting mini-recaps if anything relevant to TMOG happens.  I cannot watch b/c I can barely follow Farrah's fights with her parents (or anyone) on TMOG.

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No problem, you're welcome!  Farrah actually got into an argument with mike from Jersey Shore and his macho-y brother during their first assignment.  Their other brother just came out as gay about a year ago.  Mike and the roidy brother seem to have an issue with this.  The one brother referred to the gay brother in a way the gay brother asked if he didn't think he was a man.  The jerk brother said, "I think you're a 'frail male'."  Well that set Farrah off and those two had words.  She told him he had "no man in him!" and he shot back with "you've had every man in you!".  Michael apparently only keeps quiet when Farrah and Debz are fighting because he jumped up and put his finger in the guy's face, in Farrah's defense.  I thought 'oh no, Michael.  This isn't nasty Matt at the reunion.  You need to sit down.'

It was crazy.  Farrah probably shouldn't get into any body else's family business, especially if it puts her father in harm's way.  But I can't hate her for this one.  The two brothers take digs at the other one constantly.  I doubt I could have heard much of that before I spoke up, myself.  The guy was married to a woman for years, they divorced, and he just came out to his family a year ago.  And they act like he's just confused or being dramatic or something.  The guy even said he's "not going back [to women]" but the other two don't seem to hear that.  He seems sure and like he expected them to react just like they are.  This burns Farrah up.  Her eyes rolled around a bunch before her mouth opened up.  So there's that.  

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4 hours ago, MissMel said:

No problem!  I'm familiar with everyone on the show except Ochocinco and his mother.  They managed to suck me in too, though.  I just think having both of Farrah's parents there for the whole time, this time, is very interesting.  She can't manipulate her way around all these folks like she did/does with Dr.Jen.  Don't get me wrong-I don't believe for one second this is any type of therapy.  LOL  It should be fun and entertaining to watch so I'm in. 

I didn't know who Ochocinco was either.  Fortunately Mr. Guilfoyle was familiar with him.

Debra started playing with the bondage toys immediately. I do think she's mentally ill.  I would guess narcissistic personality disorder (that's just to start with) and I'm sure she saw the opportunity to be seen with them on TV and completely forgot they were in her and her daughter's room. 

I'm just thinking about how she made it a point to tell her new boyfriend Dr. Creepy that she would film her video in her leather thong and wouldn't he like to think about her wearing that.  Gag.  Gag. Gag. See, the thing with a LEATHER THONG is that you can't exactly throw it in the wash with a ton of bleach.  Sort of like you can't bleach your brain. Unfortunately for me.

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Haha, oh gee, thanks for sharing that!  I somehow missed the 'Deb and a leather thong' talk and I now I know.  Lol

I really do think there's something up with DebZ.  When she told Farrah her counselors said she's fine, it's Farrah that needs help, that solidified it for me.  It sounded like something Dr. Creepy told her.  I want those two to get married and leave Farrah alone for a good solid year or so.  Maybe Farrah would be able to break out of her mother's dysfunction and find her own without her mom's influence.  I don't think she'll be a-okay but it would be interesting to see who Farrah is when she's just Farrah.  Not Deb's daughter.

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Farrah would have to produce a video of her assault for me to ever believe her. Other than her mom when the police were called and Debra was prosecuted, every other claim has been proven false. The video she showed of the Uber driver speaking to the police, along with what she was yelling at the time, disproved her rape allegations, which came out later. The claims of being drugged at a strip club were completely believable right up until she claimed it happened every time at every club and the man from Vivid offered her a million dollars if she passed a lie detector test, which she never took. She has completely burned any chance of me believing her, which makes her a perfect victim in the future.

I don't watch porn but knew about James Deen and claims made about him many years ago. I came across him in a tabloid because I was trying to figure out what was being said about him, thinking it was another "Elvis is alive!" type story, only to see a porn star took his name. When I lived in Albuquerque, one of my neighbors worked in the industry and often travelled to California to film. I remember asking her about him, and she told me way back then, at least ten years ago, that he was known for approaching the women off camera and forcefully touching them, as a way to show he was in charge. Women put up with it, because his films grossed more on the back end (no pun intended).

Maybe it's my race, but I've also known about the Cosby complaint for years. When the comic made the jokes about him and it made national news, my mom and I were wondering why now when it hadn't way back then. We decided it was because of social media and the ability for stories to take on lives of their own which didn't exist back then. The one woman who tried unsuccessfully to have him prosecuted raised enough issues to have the Christian viewership discuss boycotting his Kids Say the Darndest Things show, along with creating a letter writing campaign to Jello to have him removed from the Jello-Pop commercials with kids. He paid child support for a kid that wasn't his for years until he was able to get a paternity test, which I think, but can't remember with 100% certainty without looking up again, was done by hiring a private detective to get a sample from the child, back when it required more than a cheek swab, because word got back to him that it was not his child. Once paternity was established as not him, he sued the mother, denied ever paying, and she attempted to blackmail him with proof. He absolutely trashed the mother, giving interviews on primetime television and the other stories kind of wrapped up into the blackmail story, with the claims of rape now disbelieved. Back then we were lucky if we got four channels to come in, and were out-of-luck if the President was speaking. 

I know I wrote another bitchfest, but it's quite frustrating to see false allegations completely derail legitimate ones, and as far as I'm concerned, Farrah is part of the problem. People who work in the adult industry are not taken seriously because of their jobs, and people making complaints about celebrities are not taken seriously because of con artists who try and blackmail them. Cosby would not have paid support for that child if he hadn't had sex with the mother, and I'm sure he claimed that she manipulated him when telling his side, and the other women he assaulted saw it as a lost cause. Most sexual assaults are not reported as it is, and these false claims, such as Farrah's, are part of the reason.

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Other than her mom when the police were called and Debra was prosecuted, every other claim has been proven false

Deb was never prosecuted. She pled guilty to a lesser charge: 

Debra Danielson has agreed to a deferred prosecution; the charges will be dropped if she complies with probation.

Danielson, 54, pled guilty on a lesser charge and received a "suspended sentence" of 30 days.

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It's semantics, but that is a prosecution. She was investigated and found guilty (by her plea). There was also the photo of Farrah with her split lip that I didn't mention but probably should have stated in my earlier post. I believe her mom assaulted her and may believe it if she says it in the future, but cannot believe her claims of sexual assault because of her lies.

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There are instances in which a plea of guilty does not necessarily mean a conviction will result. For example, a plea of guilty can result in an order of probation such as in this case with Deb. Successful completion of the requirements of a sentence of probation in many states results in the termination of the case without entry of a judgment of conviction.  Deb followed through with her terms and therefore, the charges were dropped and she has no record of this crime. 

I remember a scene Farrah had with an attorney about this case. I got the impression the attorney was implying to Farrah that she had a hand in what went down that day. Not sure what that meant, but I came away feeling Farrah must have hit Defcon 1 and all hell broke loose. 

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45 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

I remember a scene Farrah had with an attorney about this case. I got the impression the attorney was implying to Farrah that she had a hand in what went down that day. Not sure what that meant, but I came away feeling Farrah must have hit Defcon 1 and all hell broke loose.

There is no doubt in my mind that Farrah was actively involved in that altercation, and I remember that scene, too. Regarding the prosecution, that is why I said it is semantics. The conviction will go away after she completes the terms of her plea agreement, but she was still prosecuted for the crime. We are actually saying the same thing about that case. She was investigated, prosecuted, convicted and her conviction was vacated after she met the terms of the diversion. Farrah's involvement is probably why the State made a diversion agreement with Debra. It was her first offense, she didn't have a criminal history and there was no reason to punish her with jail. 

Personally, when she backhanded Farrah on the shoulder while car shopping I didn't see anything wrong with it. People thought she slapped her in the face because she was talking shit but the scene was posted and it was the shoulder.  It also wasn't very hard. My mother probably would have hit me in the mouth for talking back and speaking hatefully like Farrah was doing, which could be why it didn't bother me as much as it did others. Whatever happened that day at home, though, went too far in my opinion, based on the photo of Farrah's bruised face. Debra was drinking and refused to put the knives down when the cops appeared or they probably would have just separated the two because Farrah admitted to the Prosecuting Attorney in the scene that she didn't want it to go that far, either. Farrah and her sister, Ashley, have both accused Debra of being an alcoholic and being bi-polar and I believe it, too.

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Lord, remember when we thought this was a family of normal middle class professionals with a slightly spoiled daughter....I miss those days. 

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2 hours ago, qtpye said:

Lord, remember when we thought this was a family of normal middle class professionals with a slightly spoiled daughter....I miss those days. 

As a Nebraskan, I'm ashamed that this "family" lived in/around Omaha. 

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46 minutes ago, saratothej said:

As a Nebraskan, I'm ashamed that this "family" lived in/around Omaha. 

Same. I was born and raised in Omaha. I now live about an hour outside the city, in rural Iowa. But my husband works in Omaha and all my family still lives there. Farrah is actually from Council Bluffs, which we Omahanians jokingly call "Council Tucky". But every time I'd see her in a place I knew (The Old Market, the zoo), I'd cringe. Sorry for Austinites, but I'm glad she's gone from here!

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14 minutes ago, ghertigirl said:

Unfortunately, now she's moving to my town, San Diego.  Oh, the horror . . .

I can't. fucking. wait. She thinks San Diego people will put up with her bullshit?

I'm just remembering when she and Debz were looking in LA for a house. They only wanted new construction close to the beach. Try Temecula, honey. 

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San Diego with a yard for Sophia like she has in Austin?  Maybe La Mesa, El Cajon...

What in the World does Farrah think San Diego offers her for her type of "businesses?"  Is she going to be providing some sort of service to the Navy/Marine Corps?  Maybe a Yogurt concession stand at Sea World?  Since she is still in Austin in real life, it appears she had second thoughts about moving.

She's dropped the rent on her house from $5,000 to $4,450 to $4,150.  Too bad Zillow says comparable properties are renting for $3,495.

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3 hours ago, ghertigirl said:

Unfortunately, now she's moving to my town, San Diego.  Oh, the horror . . .

Sorry. At least her L.A. home life was short-lived. Too close to me. 

The only thing San Diego offers Farrah is a guy named Simon. 

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14 hours ago, qtpye said:

Lord, remember when we thought this was a family of normal middle class professionals with a slightly spoiled daughter....I miss those days. 

So much truth.

1 hour ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

San Diego with a yard for Sophia like she has in Austin?  Maybe La Mesa, El Cajon...

What in the World does Farrah think San Diego offers her for her type of "businesses?"  Is she going to be providing some sort of service to the Navy/Marine Corps?  Maybe a Yogurt concession stand at Sea World?  Since she is still in Austin in real life, it appears she had second thoughts about moving.

She's dropped the rent on her house from $5,000 to $4,450 to $4,150.  Too bad Zillow says comparable properties are renting for $3,495.

People especially aren't going to pay that when she's let a miniature horse scuff and poop all over the floors. 

I think a lot of Farrah's adult industry type work is centered in Southern California. She's probably looking for  a larger client base than wealthy Austinites and needs to be closer to wealthy areas in SoCal like LaJolla, parts of Orange County, etc for her "career" (cough, higher-end escorting, cough). And maybe her pimp even lives there.....in San Diego....and his name rhymes with Himon. (I mean maybe. It's possible. Just throwing it out there that this could be a reason to move. I can't knock the hustle, Farrah.)

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On 5/2/2017 at 4:13 PM, ghertigirl said:

Unfortunately, now she's moving to my town, San Diego.  Oh, the horror . . .

Tell me about it. I don't feel like running into her.

On 5/2/2017 at 7:23 PM, Snarky McSnarky said:

San Diego with a yard for Sophia like she has in Austin?  Maybe La Mesa, El Cajon...

What in the World does Farrah think San Diego offers her for her type of "businesses?"  Is she going to be providing some sort of service to the Navy/Marine Corps?  Maybe a Yogurt concession stand at Sea World?  Since she is still in Austin in real life, it appears she had second thoughts about moving.

She's dropped the rent on her house from $5,000 to $4,450 to $4,150.  Too bad Zillow says comparable properties are renting for $3,495.

That was my thought. She thinks people here will just be ok with a horse, mini or otherwise? I hope she plans to buy out in east county. Maybe some of the more rural areas of Scripps Ranch or similar. But she's going to be nowhere near a beach. Something tells me CA will be way more of a stickler on things like zoning than Texas. She's selling it for around $750,000? Good luck finding a southern california house with a similar size for that price. My parent's house is worth that much and it's a pretty standard suburbia 1970s place.

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Ok, I'm dealing with some major mouth pain and fully admit I may not be in the best frame of mind.  I just started watching the last episode of Marriage Boot Camp and this is what I saw.  It's Debz.  Naked.  And judging from the last episode, Farrah, Debra, and Michael are all sharing a room.  I don't know-maybe I'm weird-but I can guarantee my ex husband will not ever be seeing me naked again.  Even if there is ever some reason we have to share sleeping space for one of our children.  I'm guessing farrah feels the same way, as she is chastising her mother for being naked in the room and pointing her in the direction of the restroom.  That's Michael still in the other bed.  I can't.  Lol

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