Catelynn (and Tyler)

[druzy]

2 minutes ago, MaddyMaeboxerbabe said:

Does this say they handed over the house to the county?   Why???

Maybe taxes? @ginger90 posted they are delinquent on the property tax. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

3 hours ago, Faul McCartney said:

Ok, I'm still watching this week's episode but Cate mentioned the county they live in when at that pregnancy center (which, btw, pregnancy crisis centers are terrible and should be banned). Because I'm nosy and have access to property records, I looked up their house. Only Tyler's name is on the deed, not Cate's. I don't think it's a Michigan thing because Kim's house came up with two people's names on title. I think they paid cash, so even if Cate has bad credit, it wouldn't have affected the purchase. Maybe she has debt they want to protect the house from? Idk. I would not be okay with this. 

Interesting. I see Tyler is planning his escape route.....

I wouldn't be okay with it either, but maybe Tyler threatened to leave her or something if she didn't say ok to it or she just didn't wanna get off her couch to go to the act of sale (I feel like that's likely....) 

 

....and why the hell can't any of these Teen Mom people aside from Chelsea & Farrah pay their taxes???? I think all of them except those two have owed some form of taxes. I know Randy probably set Chelsea up with a financial planner and/or accountant....can he recommend that person to the rest of these chicks (& Tyler)?

[Faul McCartney]

6 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Interesting. I see Tyler is planning his escape route.....

I wouldn't be okay with it either, but maybe Tyler threatened to leave her or something if she didn't say ok to it or she just didn't wanna get off her couch to go to the act of sale (I feel like that's likely....) 

 

....and why the hell can't any of these Teen Mom people aside from Chelsea & Farrah pay their taxes???? I think all of them except those two have owed some form of taxes. I know Randy probably set Chelsea up with a financial planner and/or accountant....can he recommend that person to the rest of these chicks (& Tyler)?

Losing a house - or any property - for failure to pay taxes is the height of stupidity. It's actually a little amazing how many people think they can just not pay taxes. I'm going back to work in a month ? so we've been interviewing potential nannies. It's one thing if you're undocumented and can't pay taxes, but lots of citizens and legal residents don't want to be paid on the books either! Number one, I'm a lawyer so it's not optional. Number two, it's better for them to be paid on the books! They get social security and Medicare credits, plus access to disability (CA state disability is great), and if you're only making like $38k per year and have a kid, you have virtually no tax liability and get the earned income tax credit, which I'm pretty sure is refundable. Moral of the story, pay your fucking taxes. 

[poopchute]

Maybe I'm the dumb one but I don't think I've ever had to actively write a check to pay my property taxes...aren't they lumped into your mortgage? I mean I know they don't HAVE to be but obviously they can be. Why don't these people do that if they have such a hard time paying taxes?

[ginger90]

25 minutes ago, druzy said:

Do you know if this is the property they were delinquent on? 

Document Detail

Instrument #:2017010113

Multi Seq:0

Date Recorded:04/21/2017 09:11:32 AM

Document Type: CERTIFICATE OF FORFEITURE OF REAL PROPERTY

Liber:4821

Page:525

Remarks:

# Pages in Image:1

Image:

Grantor Names

1BALTIERRA   TYLER

2BALTIERRA   CATELYNN

Grantee Names

1ST CLAIR COUNTY TREASURER  

Returnee

Name: 

Address:

City, State, Zip:   

Wow! I only saw the delinquent taxes. It must be the same house because they aren't in this new one long enough to be delinquent. 

Cate, your house has a foundation.

[Faul McCartney]

7 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Maybe I'm the dumb one but I don't think I've ever had to actively write a check to pay my property taxes...aren't they lumped into your mortgage? I mean I know they don't HAVE to be but obviously they can be. Why don't these people do that if they have such a hard time paying taxes?

It totally depends. Most mortgage companies will require taxes to be impounded, meaning they collect money every month with your mortgage payment to cover the taxes, and then the mortgage company will handle getting that money to the tax assessor. If you pay cash for your property, or your mortgage doesn't have impounds, then you have to write a check every year. 

[poopchute]

2 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

It totally depends. Most mortgage companies will require taxes to be impounded, meaning they collect money every month with your mortgage payment to cover the taxes, and then the mortgage company will handle getting that money to the tax assessor. If you pay cash for your property, or your mortgage doesn't have impounds, then you have to write a check every year. 

I guess I don't understand how if you have enough money to pay cash for your home you can't also pay the taxes?

[Faul McCartney]

Just now, poopchute said:

I guess I don't understand how if you have enough money to pay cash for your home you can't also pay the taxes?

Yeah, there's no excuse for them failing to pay taxes. If they were in a cash flow bind, they could have mortgaged the property to get money for the taxes. They're just dumb. All of these people are so, so dumb. 

[LillysPad]

Unless they changed the rules in Michigan, it used to be against the law for a married man to purchase a house without his wife's knowledge. Though, a wife could buy one without his signature or knowledge. 

[LillysPad]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Both of their names are on the tax records of their former house.

And they are delinquent.

Oh yeah they are! For over 5 thousand dollars.  

[leighroda]

59 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

Losing a house - or any property - for failure to pay taxes is the height of stupidity. It's actually a little amazing how many people think they can just not pay taxes. I'm going back to work in a month ? so we've been interviewing potential nannies. It's one thing if you're undocumented and can't pay taxes, but lots of citizens and legal residents don't want to be paid on the books either! Number one, I'm a lawyer so it's not optional. Number two, it's better for them to be paid on the books! They get social security and Medicare credits, plus access to disability (CA state disability is great), and if you're only making like $38k per year and have a kid, you have virtually no tax liability and get the earned income tax credit, which I'm pretty sure is refundable. Moral of the story, pay your fucking taxes. 

Off topic, but where were you when I was a nanny in college, lol I would have preferred to be on the books, but everyone wanted to pay like a babysitter off the books.

I'm new to adulting, I inherited land and pay taxes on it, I got a notice when I was a month late (it was totally an accident and I corrected it as soon as I realized it... I split the land with my siblings (who I also lived with until February) and had moved right when the first notice came, it came with theirs and neither thought to tell me, they thought the notices came before I moved because they have the worst ever method of sorting mail, leaving it on the kitchen table until someone gets fed up and does something about it) my question is, how long is it before you are declared "delinquent"? It probably varies by state, but mine (Texas) just adds a percentage for the year until I paid it (there was a month by month table of if I paid each month) I'm not sure how long it would have to be delinquent before any other action would be taken. What would cause them to surrender the other land? I know we probably don't know the actual reason, but what are the possible scenarios? I would think they would have plenty to cover the taxes, unless they are extremely high in Michigan, which I can't imagine they would be. Again mine was Texas, I don't know where Texas lands tax wise, I think it's on the lower end, but my portion is about $50 (we have animals on the land and some other stuff for tax breaks, I'm not sure how much it would be without that). It I can't imagine Michigan being that much more, how much land do you have to rack up 5000$  sorry I'm pretty dumb when it comes to taxes, that's my older sisters strength, so I usually defer to her... I make the medical/health decisions (I'm a RN).

Edited June 6, 2017 by leighroda

[Tatum]

I googled it and after two years of unpaid taxes in MI it goes into forfeiture to county treasurer but the owner has a year to pay off delinquent taxes and get forfeiture cancelled. I would guess that C&T just started the year and probably are in no hurry to pay it now since they have a year. They've probably been too lazy for the past 2 years to buy stamps and they'd rather accrue a few extra hundred bucks in penalties and pay it last minute than get off their fat asses now. 

[Caracoa1]

They can't pay their taxes but have aspirations to open a foundation!

[poopchute]

And they are business owners!

[ginger90]

I can send them the link to the page they can pay from!

My theory, they plan on selling and hope to do it before the deadline to pay. Taxes will come off what they get for the sale, done.

[Caracoa1]

Rumor has it the teen Mom girls make approximately $300 K a season plus whatever Tyler brings in and then there are their appearance/cover story fees....what in the hell are they spending their money on?  

[druzy]

Just now, Caracoa1 said:

Rumor has it the teen Mom girls make approximately $300 K a season plus whatever Tyler brings in and then there are their appearance/cover story fees....what in the hell are they spending their money on?  

Quesadillas? Trips to Boogie Town? Pigs?  

[Tatum]

38 minutes ago, Caracoa1 said:

Rumor has it the teen Mom girls make approximately $300 K a season plus whatever Tyler brings in and then there are their appearance/cover story fees....what in the hell are they spending their money on?  

I don't think they've not paid because they don't have the money. I'm sure they've had $5K in their bank account for the last 2 years. They haven't paid because there's no reason to yet- the intrinsic value of paying what you owe holds no meaning to them. They'll pay when they're forced to pay and not a second sooner. Whether they pay off taxes tonight or 10 months from now, they'll still keep their house, so why pay now?

 

Same with Amber. She doesn't pay rent, damages, taxes, creditors, or child support until she absolutely has to do so. She doesn't do it because it's inherently the right thing to do, she does it because her hand has been forced, either through public shaming, or potentially losing her assets (when she still had them).

 

So, Cate, tell us again how Farrah's a trashy bitch because she's participated in porn and has the balls to confront you to your face, right in front of you, rather than hiding backstage or online to screech your insults, while you and Amber, who haven't worked one day or read one book in 5 years, haven't paid your bills, and leave your children in the care of criminals with a history of neglecting their own children, are the epitome of classy ladies. 

[CofCinci]

1 hour ago, Caracoa1 said:

Rumor has it the teen Mom girls make approximately $300 K a season plus whatever Tyler brings in and then there are their appearance/cover story fees....what in the hell are they spending their money on?  

They support a bunch of addicts and degenerates who call themselves "family."

[Faul McCartney]

Taxes are totally a state and local thing. I'm shocked they could have $5,000 unpaid taxes, especially since they haven't owned the property for very long. I can't think of any reason besides taxes why there would be a forfeiture. The forfeiture didn't come up in my records search - are we sure it's for the current house/property? 

[Tatum]

9 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

Taxes are totally a state and local thing. I'm shocked they could have $5,000 unpaid taxes, especially since they haven't owned the property for very long. I can't think of any reason besides taxes why there would be a forfeiture. The forfeiture didn't come up in my records search - are we sure it's for the current house/property? 

 Not sure when they bought house, but they did not pay in 2015 or 2016. Property taxes are around $2300 each year plus $1,000 so far in delinquent fees. 

 

Did they move into a new house and rent their St Clair house out? If so, I'll bet they'll claim their tenants were supposed to pay it. 

[Faul McCartney]

2 minutes ago, Tatum said:

 Not sure when they bought house, but they did not pay in 2015 or 2016. Property taxes are around $2300 each year plus $1,000 so far in delinquent fees. 

 

Did they move into a new house and rent their St Clair house out? If so, I'll bet they'll claim their tenants were supposed to pay it. 

Hmmm..I don't want to dox them by referencing the address. The property I found in just Tyler's name is in Burtchville. I think the St Clair house was maybe the old house with the hideous orange walls. As far as I can tell, they're no longer on title to that house. They closed on the Burtchville house in March 2016. The delinquent taxes are probably for the old house and may have been the reason for the forfeiture. 

[lexiexx]

I don't think Cate even has an idea of what exactly her "foundation" will do.   Every time she brings it up I imagine her saying its for pregnant teenagers who can't read good.

I think those two have just regressed from any actual career plans to sitting around smoking pot and saying to each other 'hey, know what would be cool?   If I wrote a book!   Or made a kids clothing line!  Yeah!   It will be HUGE!   We can even start a FOUNDATION!!!   FOR CARLY.   

Those clothes are ugly and nothing you couldn't get on etsy if you really wanted to dress your kid like they just got back from a hippie rodeo.

[Tatum]

17 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

Hmmm..I don't want to dox them by referencing the address. The property I found in just Tyler's name is in Burtchville. I think the St Clair house was maybe the old house with the hideous orange walls. As far as I can tell, they're no longer on title to that house. They closed on the Burtchville house in March 2016. The delinquent taxes are probably for the old house and may have been the reason for the forfeiture. 

I did find delinquent taxes of $1100 for their new house. 

 

For those who are curious, if you google "Tyler baltierra burtchville mi" and scroll past the wetpaint/teen mom junky sites, the property record from St Clair county pops up. If you click on delinquent taxes they did not pay in 2016. 

 

Eta: C&T are indeed still on the title for the past due taxes of $5K on other house. 

Edited June 7, 2017 by Tatum

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, Tatum said:

I don't think they've not paid because they don't have the money. I'm sure they've had $5K in their bank account for the last 2 years. They haven't paid because there's no reason to yet- the intrinsic value of paying what you owe holds no meaning to them. They'll pay when they're forced to pay and not a second sooner. Whether they pay off taxes tonight or 10 months from now, they'll still keep their house, so why pay now?

 

Same with Amber. She doesn't pay rent, damages, taxes, creditors, or child support until she absolutely has to do so. She doesn't do it because it's inherently the right thing to do, she does it because her hand has been forced, either through public shaming, or potentially losing her assets (when she still had them).

 

So, Cate, tell us again how Farrah's a trashy bitch because she's participated in porn and has the balls to confront you to your face, right in front of you, rather than hiding backstage or online to screech your insults, while you and Amber, who haven't worked one day or read one book in 5 years, haven't paid your bills, and leave your children in the care of criminals with a history of neglecting their own children, are the epitome of classy ladies. 

This all day long!

[Faul McCartney]

15 minutes ago, Tatum said:

I did find delinquent taxes of $1100 for their new house. 

For those who are curious, if you google "Tyler baltierra burtchville mi" and scroll past the wetpaint/teen mom junky sites, the property record from St Clair county pops up. If you click on delinquent taxes they did not pay in 2016. 

Interesting. I didn't find that. The St Clair County website indicates delinquent taxes in the amount of $5,843.23 for the old house. I'm pretty sure this is the old house because it's the mailing address on the deed info for the new house. This is typical, you'd put your current address as your mailing address since you haven't moved into the new house yet.

I just searched through the public records available on the County's website (I was previously looking through a title company). The forfeiture is definitely connected to the old house, not the new house. It's the same assessor's parcel number. The deed for the new house references a different assessor's parcel number.

The County tax roll I found says the 2016 taxes for the new house were only $1,221.25. I think 2016 taxes for Michigan were due by early February 2017.

Also - the County's website suggests Catelynn's name IS on title to the new house. I can't view the actual deed, but it looks like my earlier statement about it only being in Tyler's name was wrong.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Faul McCartney

[Tatum]

8 minutes ago, Faul McCartney said:

Interesting. I didn't find that. The St Clair County website indicates delinquent taxes in the amount of $5,843.23 for the old house. I'm pretty sure this is the old house because it's the mailing address on the deed info for the new house. This is typical, you'd put your current address as your mailing address since you haven't moved into the new house yet.

I just searched through the public records available on the County's website (I was previously looking through a title company). The forfeiture is definitely connected to the old house, not the new house. It's the same assessor's parcel number. The deed for the new house references a different assessor's parcel number.

The County tax roll I found says the 2016 taxes for the new house were only $1,221.25. I think 2016 taxes for Michigan were due by early February 2017.

Also - the County's website suggests Catelynn's name IS on title to the new house. I can't view the actual deed, but it looks like my earlier statement about it only being in Tyler's name was wrong.

Yes, but they still own the house with the $5k delinquency. They didn't pay taxes in 2015 or 2016 so if they had sold that house those taxes would have HAD to have been paid. They likely kept the old house for possible rental income. 

[Faul McCartney]

35 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Yes, but they still own the house with the $5k delinquency. They didn't pay taxes in 2015 or 2016 so if they had sold that house those taxes would have HAD to have been paid. They likely kept the old house for possible rental income. 

Yeah, that's the weird part. The title company search didn't show them as the owners of the old house, it says the current own is Clinton Avenue Trust with an annual tax amount of $2,128.07. If they had the wherewithal to put that property in the name of a trust, I wonder why they didn't do the same for the new property. But you're 100% right, you can't sell a property without paying off any delinquent property taxes.

[Christina]

I haven't read the records myself but from memory, I believe that house was purchased from a trust. It took a bit before it was updated online, and people thought they were smart enough to create a trust to keep their address more secure, but a week or two later, it updated showing a transfer from a trust to them. 

Losing a house to the county because you can't bother to pay $5000, but can go on vacation to Puerto Rico, Mexico/Spain, is the height of trash. My guess (without looking) is that they are hoping to sell it before the County takes it. MTV certainly paid for at least a portion of that trip, but since we viewers are not supposed to know that, I'm going to pretend I don't and that they are even more trashy for going on vacation and not paying their taxes. 

During the walk through with Butch, Tyler was saying something about the work that needed done, and I wondered if they walked away because they were not going to be able to bring it to code for resale. It is stupid if they did, because they will be charged for the tear down, but it may actually be cheaper in the long run if the house is inhabitable. 

[poopchute]

6 hours ago, Faul McCartney said:

The County tax roll I found says the 2016 taxes for the new house were only $1,221.25

What?!  My property taxes are over 12,000.  NJ sucks.

[Calm81]

12 hours ago, poopchute said:

Maybe I'm the dumb one but I don't think I've ever had to actively write a check to pay my property taxes...aren't they lumped into your mortgage? I mean I know they don't HAVE to be but obviously they can be. Why don't these people do that if they have such a hard time paying taxes?

Yeah, my property tax is merged with my mortgage payment. I don't have to worry about the payment unless of course I get a surprise bump in amount due to a new road or something. When I do taxes at the end of the year I can see what I paid for the calendar year. Except, Amber's never owned a home so she's never had a mortgage to pay her taxes. So it can't be property tax she's neglecting.

She's not paying her taxes from her MTV earnings because she's a self-employee through MTV. It's not where MTV cuts them a paycheck with the taxes already deducted like other employees. Self-employed people have to actively pay their taxes. She doesn't pay her taxes from her income not property tax.

I hope I made sense, still sipping my morning iced coffee for my brain to be functional.

ETA: Holy shit! I thought I was answering this question on the Amber thread because I was going back and forth. So now my post means absolutely shit and I've embarrassed myself.

Calm81, they're talking about Cate and Tyler you bonehead, not Amber. Don't type before coffee...don't type before coffee.

I wish to delete. ???

Hides.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Calm81

[jacksgirl]

Calm81, with this group of idiots, it could be anyone of them. Why don't these people hire a reputable accountant to take care of this?  That's what I would do.

Edited June 7, 2017 by jacksgirl

[ginger90]

The $5,000 plus taxes and property in "forfeiture" is the St Clair house aka orange walls, lol. Around $1,000 of that is fees. They may well be delinquent on the current property, who knows.

I don't want to post the address, it's easy enough for those curious, like me, to find though.  Here's the message on the listing in the records:

Status: Active

You have a total delinquent balance of $5,843.23.  You can choose to make a partial or full payment online via credit card or electronic check.  Click the link below to make a payment for the year(s) that delinquent taxes are owed.

[Caracoa1]

And they wonder why Brandon and Theresa don't respond to their text messages to visit with Carly!  

[Uncle JUICE]

2 hours ago, poopchute said:

What?!  My property taxes are over 12,000.  NJ sucks.

Fucking WORD. 

[poopchute]

Wait, their house cost $73,000?! Lol.

[Tatum]

6 hours ago, Christina said:

I haven't read the records myself but from memory, I believe that house was purchased from a trust....

The trust purchased the house in 2012, which was then quit claim deeded (not sold) to C&T in late 2015. Not sure if that means they purchased the property as a trust and then transferred title to themselves, or if the trust was a separate entity that quit claimed the deed to C&T (perhaps not an official sale to avoid taxes? I am not sure why they would have done it that way). I don't think C&T are the creators of the trust so not sure why 2015 wasn't just an outright sale. Regardless, they do own both houses now and are delinquent on both of them.

[Tatum]

3 hours ago, poopchute said:

What?!  My property taxes are over 12,000.  NJ sucks.

 

36 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Wait, their house cost $73,000?! Lol.

Yeah, in fairness, it's not that NJ property taxes are any higher than MI, per se (maybe a slightly higher percentage, but nothing major) but property values in NJ vs. the economically depressed areas of MI are so far apart that the difference is massive. If you could find a house with an assessed value of $73,000 in Somerset County NJ, your property taxes would be about $1,300. Of course, we know that's not going to happen.

 

ETA: I take the above back somewhat. I think Somerset County is roughly 1.8% and St Clair County is roughly 1.35%. But that .45% can make a huge difference I guess when you're talking about homes in the millions. A $2 million house is going to equate to about an extra $9K a year in NJ vs. Michigan. So, you're sort of right, NJ does suck for property taxes :).

Slightly off topic, but I wonder what it's going to take for those areas of MI to recover.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Tatum

[poopchute]

29 minutes ago, Tatum said:

 

Yeah, in fairness, it's not that NJ property taxes are any higher than MI, per se (maybe a slightly higher percentage, but nothing major) but property values in NJ vs. the economically depressed areas of MI are so far apart that the difference is massive. If you could find a house with an assessed value of $73,000 in Somerset County NJ, your property taxes would be about $1,300. Of course, we know that's not going to happen.

 

ETA: I take the above back somewhat. I think Somerset County is roughly 1.8% and St Clair County is roughly 1.35%. But that .45% can make a huge difference I guess when you're talking about homes in the millions. A $2 million house is going to equate to about an extra $9K a year in NJ vs. Michigan. So, you're sort of right, NJ does suck for property taxes :).

Slightly off topic, but I wonder what it's going to take for those areas of MI to recover.

The tax rate here is 3.6 so it's definitely a huge difference.

[Tatum]

10 minutes ago, poopchute said:

The tax rate here is 3.6 so it's definitely a huge difference.

Wow, that's a lot of variation just within the county. I was using a general calculator for all states, but going specifically into NJ (just using Somerset County as the example) within each township, the tax rate ranges from 1.3% to 3.3%. So, someone with $1 million dollar house in Somerset County might be paying $13,000 a year while someone else (also in Somerset County) with a $1 million dollar house is paying $33,000 a year. Those crazy Jersey folk. 

 

ETA- if you live in North Plainfield Boro, you actually get to pay 3.589%. Why is it so different? A quick look on Zillow doesn't show anything out of the ordinary for that region- are the schools like super well there or something?

Edited June 7, 2017 by Tatum

[poopchute]

Yeah! So without straying too far off topic, I just don't understand how these fools make 300k a year and their house is only 73k and taxes 1300 and they can't pay it.

[Uncle JUICE]

4 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Wow, that's a lot of variation just within the county. I was using a general calculator for all states, but going specifically into NJ (just using Somerset County as the example) within each township, the tax rate ranges from 1.3% to 3.3%. So, someone with $1 million dollar house in Somerset County might be paying $13,000 a year while someone else (also in Somerset County) with a $1 million dollar house is paying $33,000 a year. Those crazy Jersey folk. 

 

ETA- if you live in North Plainfield Boro, you actually get to pay 3.589%. Why is it so different? A quick look on Zillow doesn't show anything out of the ordinary for that region- are the schools like super well there or something?

Those Somerset county differences are probably between Manville and Hillsborough, which are right next to each other. And beats the shit out of me, I live in Middlesex county. There can be a really wide gap in school districts (again Manville and Hillsborough) but it isn't like North Plainfield is just rife with amazing facilities and stuff like that. Just a lot of money in that area compared to say regular Plainfield. This has been NJ Real Estate Talk, thank you!

1 minute ago, poopchute said:

Yeah! So without straying too far off topic, I just don't understand how these fools make 300k a year and their house is only 73k and taxes 1300 and they can't pay it.

Exactly. Between my wife and I we don't make $300K a year, and in Middlesex County, a reasonable size town with reasonable schools, we pay 13K without having to get the government on our asses about it. But then of course, we're adults. 

[Tatum]

4 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Yeah! So without straying too far off topic, I just don't understand how these fools make 300k a year and their house is only 73k and taxes 1300 and they can't pay it.

Oh, they can pay it. And they will, when they have to. But not a second sooner. They're lazy and they have no pride, so paying their bills on time doesn't have the same value to them as it would to people that post on this forum.

 

ETA: if it wasn't clear, they haven't actually lost the house yet. They've been put on notice that St Clair county will take the house back and they have one year to settle up. So they will- at the end of their allotted time.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Tatum

[CofCinci]

1 hour ago, poopchute said:

Yeah! So without straying too far off topic, I just don't understand how these fools make 300k a year and their house is only 73k and taxes 1300 and they can't pay it.

They are lazy and entitled. 

[leighroda]

13 hours ago, lexiexx said:

I don't think Cate even has an idea of what exactly her "foundation" will do.   Every time she brings it up I imagine her saying its for pregnant teenagers who can't read good.

I think those two have just regressed from any actual career plans to sitting around smoking pot and saying to each other 'hey, know what would be cool?   If I wrote a book!   Or made a kids clothing line!  Yeah!   It will be HUGE!   We can even start a FOUNDATION!!!   FOR CARLY.   

Those clothes are ugly and nothing you couldn't get on etsy if you really wanted to dress your kid like they just got back from a hippie rodeo.

I said this in another thread (I think, who knows, maybe it was further up here) but IF they were to get a foundation up and running (I highly doubt they ever could) they wouldn't do any of the actual work, they would just sit and pay themselves from any proceeds  while everyone else does the work.

[gunderda]

18 hours ago, poopchute said:

Maybe I'm the dumb one but I don't think I've ever had to actively write a check to pay my property taxes...aren't they lumped into your mortgage? I mean I know they don't HAVE to be but obviously they can be. Why don't these people do that if they have such a hard time paying taxes?

Not always... you can choose.. which I don't understand why you WOULDN'T lump them in with your mortgage.  My friend and her husband pay them separately and I asked her why they don't escrow it.  She has no idea - she just lets her husband deal with it.  I think it's the stupidest thing ever.. unless someone can give me a good idea on why you would want to pay property taxes on your own 1-2 times a year.  Mine are less than $2k but there's no way I could actively save up that money in order to pay it when it's due lol 

[Tatum]

For those wondering why someone with $300K can't pay a $1,100 property tax bill, allow me to elaborate:

Scene: C&T's house, March 2016

Cate: Hey Ty-Ty, did we get any good mail?

Tyler: Some bill for property taxes, for like $1,100

Cate: What the fuck is that? We already paid for the house; they can't charge us taxes now

Tyler: No, it's like every year we have to pay it

Cate: Why???

Tyler: I don't know, like, to fix roads and stuff. Oh, and like the library and county parks and shit like that. Maybe schools too.

Cate: Fuck that. We don't even use any of that shit. And there's a pothole at the end of our road they still haven't fixed. Fuck them

Tyler: it's not even due for another 2 months anyways

Cate: Fine, throw it on the desk, we'll deal with it later

Six months later

Tyler: Hey Cate, remember that property tax bill?

Cate: No

Tyler: Remember that bill we were supposed to pay for like $1,100?

Cate: No

Tyler: Well it was due 4 months ago. Now they're saying we owe that, plus another installment of $1,100, plus $500 in late fees

Cate: Stupid assholes. That pothole still isn't even fixed. Think we can get them to waive it if we post on instagram about what jelly bitches the County of St Clair is?

Tyler: Maybe. Whatever, we'll deal with it later, I have to jump on Twitter anyways and see if Farrah responded yet to my super sick burn about her ass. I got her really good, I bet she's still crying

Six Months Later:

Tyler: Hey Cate, we still have to pay property taxes. Now they're saying we owe like $4,000

Cate: Ugh, so annoying. Fine, I'll go online and pay it later. Hey Ty-Ty, remember when we were poor? And now we can like, write a $4,000 check like it's nothing?

Tyler: I know right? We're so inspirational. Hey- we should include that for our novel

Cate: Oh right.

3 months later:

Tyler: Cate, we got this notice from the county that they're taking our house if we don't pay our past due taxes

Cate: OMG, seriously? That pothole still isn't even fixed. When is the due date?

Tyler: Next year

Cate: Fuck them, they can wait. They shouldn't be charging us anything

Repeat, repeat, repeat

1 hour ago, gunderda said:

Not always... you can choose.. which I don't understand why you WOULDN'T lump them in with your mortgage.  My friend and her husband pay them separately and I asked her why they don't escrow it.  She has no idea - she just lets her husband deal with it.  I think it's the stupidest thing ever.. unless someone can give me a good idea on why you would want to pay property taxes on your own 1-2 times a year.  Mine are less than $2k but there's no way I could actively save up that money in order to pay it when it's due lol 

The only advantage I can think of is if you had really high property taxes- like over $20,000- and were like some super slick day trader, and therefore losing $1,000+ a month to prepay property taxes was costing you a fortune in lost interest income. That is literally the only reason I can think of.

[CofCinci]

2 hours ago, leighroda said:

I said this in another thread (I think, who knows, maybe it was further up here) but IF they were to get a foundation up and running (I highly doubt they ever could) they wouldn't do any of the actual work, they would just sit and pay themselves from any proceeds  while everyone else does the work.

They came up with the Carly-named foundation idea SOLELY to guilt Teresa into letting Carly see them. I can imagine Tyler saying "How can they ignore a foundation? What kind of people ignore a foundation?"  Catelynn hasn't worked with a single birth mother since Bethany stopped paying her.  It's not a true interest. It's false altruism. There will never be a foundation because Teresa recognizes that it is in her daughter's best interest to have ZERO contact with the Lowell-Baltierra clan.  Catelynn left her toddler with crackhead Butch in order to party in Puerto Rico with degenerates like Amber and Matt. Their values are not in alignment with B&T's. Why would Teresa want her daughter around that?  C&T joke about Butch's incarcerations with #FreeButch tshirts but the thought of their child being around addicts and felons is HORRIFYING to B&T. 

[FlowerofCarnage]

And yet they spent 3 grand on a pig and have at least 4 cars sitting in the driveway.

[Chris Knight]

5 hours ago, Tatum said:

For those wondering why someone with $300K can't pay a $1,100 property tax bill, allow me to elaborate:

Scene: C&T's house, March 2016

Cate: Hey Ty-Ty, did we get any good mail?

Tyler: Some bill for property taxes, for like $1,100

Cate: What the fuck is that? We already paid for the house; they can't charge us taxes now

Tyler: No, it's like every year we have to pay it

Cate: Why???

Tyler: I don't know, like, to fix roads and stuff. Oh, and like the library and county parks and shit like that. Maybe schools too.

Cate: Fuck that. We don't even use any of that shit. And there's a pothole at the end of our road they still haven't fixed. Fuck them

Tyler: it's not even due for another 2 months anyways

Cate: Fine, throw it on the desk, we'll deal with it later

Six months later

Tyler: Hey Cate, remember that property tax bill?

Cate: No

Tyler: Remember that bill we were supposed to pay for like $1,100?

Cate: No

Tyler: Well it was due 4 months ago. Now they're saying we owe that, plus another installment of $1,100, plus $500 in late fees

Cate: Stupid assholes. That pothole still isn't even fixed. Think we can get them to waive it if we post on instagram about what jelly bitches the County of St Clair is?

Tyler: Maybe. Whatever, we'll deal with it later, I have to jump on Twitter anyways and see if Farrah responded yet to my super sick burn about her ass. I got her really good, I bet she's still crying

Six Months Later:

Tyler: Hey Cate, we still have to pay property taxes. Now they're saying we owe like $4,000

Cate: Ugh, so annoying. Fine, I'll go online and pay it later. Hey Ty-Ty, remember when we were poor? And now we can like, write a $4,000 check like it's nothing?

Tyler: I know right? We're so inspirational. Hey- we should include that for our novel

Cate: Oh right.

3 months later:

Tyler: Cate, we got this notice from the county that they're taking our house if we don't pay our past due taxes

Cate: OMG, seriously? That pothole still isn't even fixed. When is the due date?

Tyler: Next year

Cate: Fuck them, they can wait. They shouldn't be charging us anything

Repeat, repeat, repeat

The only advantage I can think of is if you had really high property taxes- like over $20,000- and were like some super slick day trader, and therefore losing $1,000+ a month to prepay property taxes was costing you a fortune in lost interest income. That is literally the only reason I can think of.

Brilliant !!!