Catelynn (and Tyler)

[Brooklynista]

20 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

In general, the moms annoy me because they act like they've actually earned all of the money thrown at them for getting pregnant, and they parade around like celebrities when they go to NY or LA for filming.  But Tyler truly annoys the shit out of me, since he didn't go through anything the females went through, and struts around like he is large and in charge all the time.  That boy needs slappin' down.  He is way too full of himself.

MTV should have kept the adoption story as just Cate's story. Making it CatelynandTyler has created this brand that has a life of its own. None of the other guys get so much screen time so why do we still have to see so much of  ridiculous pompadour? Is that hairstyle really popular anywhere?

Edited August 28, 2016 by Brooklynista

[geekamonggeeks]

18 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

MTV should have kept the adoption story as just Cate's story. Making it CatelynandTyler has created this grand that has a life of its own. None of the other guys get so much screen time so why do we still have to see so much of  ridiculous pompadour? Is that hairstyle really popular anywhere?

Maybe that's why Tyler is wearing a beanie in tonight's episode; he finally got wind of how stupid his hairstyle looks. 

[GreatKazu]

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None of the other guys get so much screen time so why do we still have to see so much of  ridiculous pompadour? Is that hairstyle really popular anywhere?

[MargeGunderson]

Hey, don't bring the Big Boy into this mess!

[Katt]

I made the mistake of going to the FB TM page. The love for the Tyler is FUCKING SICKENING! I am SO grateful for the people on this forum.

[geekamonggeeks]

1 minute ago, Katt said:

I made the mistake of going to the FB TM page. The love for the Tyler is FUCKING SICKENING! I am SO grateful for the people on this forum.

I've commented a couple times on the FB page, but I don't think they're going to listen to reason. i will say that I think more people aren't as enamored with C&T now like they were when the show first started six years ago; there were many comments criticizing Tyler, more so than there would've been had this happened when the show was still new. It's not nearly enough to drive back the crazy fans, but I get the vibe that more and more viewers aren't impressed with Tyler's antics. It's just another sign that this franchise has gotten stale and MTV needs to pull the plug permanently instead of reviving this show's corpse every few years. 

[Katt]

I like to think the people with sense know it's not worth the bother of commenting on there now. "ur stoopit" "tylers a amayzun farthar." and etc. 

[geekamonggeeks]

29 minutes ago, Katt said:

I like to think the people with sense know it's not worth the bother of commenting on there now. "ur stoopit" "tylers a amayzun farthar." and etc. 

True lol. I gave it my best. 

[msblossom]

Other than not being together, I'm not entirely sure that Cate and Tyler would be much more different had they not had the ongoing money and fame MTV has provided. MTV has indeed made their lives more comfortable to where they didn't have to attempt to provide for themselves. I'm not sure either one would have done more than the bare minimum to get by. I don't know that Cate would have made a better choice than Tyler. She's been conditioned from her youth to have low self esteem and maintain low expectations from how she should be treated by anyone. I think they're hard wired to be what they are unless they are strongly committed to be otherwise. It pretty much applies to all the teen moms, with exception to Kail and Chelsea. 

[politichick]

19 hours ago, msblossom said:

Other than not being together, I'm not entirely sure that Cate and Tyler would be much more different had they not had the ongoing money and fame MTV has provided. MTV has indeed made their lives more comfortable to where they didn't have to attempt to provide for themselves. I'm not sure either one would have done more than the bare minimum to get by. I don't know that Cate would have made a better choice than Tyler. She's been conditioned from her youth to have low self esteem and maintain low expectations from how she should be treated by anyone. I think they're hard wired to be what they are unless they are strongly committed to be otherwise. It pretty much applies to all the teen moms, with exception to Kail and Chelsea. 

And Farrah. We may not like how she makes her living, but there's no denying she's a hustler.

[GreatKazu]

19 hours ago, politichick said:

And Farrah. We may not like how she makes her living, but there's no denying she's a hustler.

I actually don't care how Farrah makes her living since it is not illegal. My only issue with her was the denial her tape was porn. (sorry, wrong thread).

Thank goodness Cate & Tyler have not gone that route. *shivers*  They are too busy being pot heads.

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I think more people aren't as enamored with C&T now like they were when the show first started

The "fans" are a totally different species. They love their Tyler. Yuck!!! I liked Tyler at first. I chalked up his initial threat as a young boy who was desperate and scared. I see that his threats have continued. Asshole!

Edited August 30, 2016 by GreatKazu

[MargeGunderson]

41 minutes ago, politichick said:

And Farrah. We may not like how she makes her living, but there's no denying she's a hustler.

I'm not sure that Farrah is that much of a hustler. Sure she's done a bunch of things, but none so far have been all that successful. I think she's more of a dabbler, trying this or that, anything that she thinks she could make her a bunch of easy money. I'd be more impressed if she actually stuck with something and worked hard at it.

[TonAmi]

5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I actually don't care how Farrah makes her living since it is not illegal. My only issue with her was the denial her tape was porn.

*rolls eyes and purses swollen lips* It was NOT a porno, it was a celebrity sex tape!!!! Like I can't help it if people are jealous of me and my daughter. 

[jumper sage]

On 8/28/2016 at 10:13 PM, msblossom said:

Other than not being together, I'm not entirely sure that Cate and Tyler would be much more different had they not had the ongoing money and fame MTV has provided. MTV has indeed made their lives more comfortable to where they didn't have to attempt to provide for themselves. I'm not sure either one would have done more than the bare minimum to get by. I don't know that Cate would have made a better choice than Tyler. She's been conditioned from her youth to have low self esteem and maintain low expectations from how she should be treated by anyone. I think they're hard wired to be what they are unless they are strongly committed to be otherwise. It pretty much applies to all the teen moms, with exception to Kail and Chelsea. 

And now we have Nova next in line for this.  She is already seeing how her father verbally abuses her mother.  She already sees them and their drug use.  They have done nothing to break the cycle of abuse.

[Tatum]

14 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

I'm not sure that Farrah is that much of a hustler. Sure she's done a bunch of things, but none so far have been all that successful. I think she's more of a dabbler, trying this or that, anything that she thinks she could make her a bunch of easy money. I'd be more impressed if she actually stuck with something and worked hard at it.

I agree with this. I mean, I suppose she's more of a hustler than C&T, or Amber, so if we're purely grading on a curve, sure.  But I wouldn't actually say "hustler". All she really wants to do is go to trade shows and appear on various d list reality shows. She doesn't want to do anything that remotely resembles work.

[EDTV]

43 minutes ago, Tatum said:

I agree with this. I mean, I suppose she's more of a hustler than C&T, or Amber, so if we're purely grading on a curve, sure.  But I wouldn't actually say "hustler". All she really wants to do is go to trade shows and appear on various d list reality shows. She doesn't want to do anything that remotely resembles work.

Farrah has sustained a pretty luxurious lifestyle for many seasons now so she must be doing something right. Work smart not hard. Can't knock her ambition.

[Tatum]

7 minutes ago, EDTV said:

Farrah has sustained a pretty luxurious lifestyle for many seasons now so she must be doing something right. Work smart not hard. Can't knock her ambition.

Well, yeah. She gets 6 figures a year for getting pregnant at 17. All these girls except Cate are living pretty luxuriously. Nothing to do with ambition.

[EDTV]

3 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Well, yeah. She gets 6 figures a year for getting pregnant at 17. All these girls except Cate are living pretty luxuriously. Nothing to do with ambition.

really? C&T have done nothing, Amber has done nothing, Maci has done nothing except have more babies. You can hate on Farrah for alot of things, but her ambition isn't one of them. She's the only one that actually is hustling to succeed outside of TM.

[Tatum]

3 minutes ago, EDTV said:

really? C&T have done nothing, Amber has done nothing, Maci has done nothing except have more babies. You can hate on Farrah for alot of things, but her ambition isn't one of them. She's the only one that actually is hustling to succeed outside of TM.

But the majority of her net worth still comes from Teen Mom. It's not like she has been financially successful at anything outside of the show. She has a half dozen college credits earned, a porno tape that netted her about $15K, a series of products no one has used- the only really thing she has been able to bank on is appearing on reality shows- which come to think of it, C&T have gone that route as well.

[ghoulina]

12 hours ago, TonAmi said:

*rolls eyes and purses swollen lips* It was NOT a porno, it was a celebrity sex tape!!!

Who was the celebrity? 

[radishcake]

Guys take the Farrah talk to her thread please and maybe cool it with the arguing as well. 

[GreatKazu]

5 hours ago, jumper sage said:

And now we have Nova next in line for this.  She is already seeing how her father verbally abuses her mother.  She already sees them and their drug use.  They have done nothing to break the cycle of abuse.

Amen. This is what kills me about these two. The financial opportunity is there for both of them to get professional help and for at least one of them to move forward with acquiring job skills. Didn't April open up a small antique shop? I know she has no business experience, but at least she is trying something. Hopefully, she has some guidance from someone who knows about the business. I don't expect Tyler and Cate to open up a business, but by now they should seriously be thinking long-term. They are like Butch and April minus the hard-core drugs. It is pot and alcohol for these two. DV may not be happening, but abuse is running rampant in various other ways.

[jumper sage]

@GreatKazu  I think both Butch and April are clean.  What a difference being clean makes.  It's too bad Tyler and Cate are not on board with it.

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, jumper sage said:

@GreatKazu  I think both Butch and April are clean.  What a difference being clean makes.  It's too bad Tyler and Cate are not on board with it.

Yes, I know they are clean. My point was they were once hard core drug users. That is why I mentioned C&T are like how those two used to be, minus the hard drugs. C&T's drug of choice are pot, alcohol, and Carly. As for Nova, she is just an afterthought. I agree, they should look at how life has changed for Butch and April just by getting clean and putting their minds into work.

How many times do they feed Nova Ritz crackers? I keep seeing an open package on that table next to the couch and recliner.

When Nova gets more exercise at the gymnastics class than her parents put together, something is definitely wrong. It would be nice if Catelynn AND Nova were in some kind of mommy-and-me exercise class.

Nova's face reminds me of the little girl in the cartoon The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.

Edited August 30, 2016 by GreatKazu

[jumper sage]

@GreatKazu - first off, love the name.

If I could address the comment Butch made about loving drugs more than his son - having an alcoholic father who died recently with the ages of his children being in and around 50, he never said anything like that.  We waited a lifetime for him to admit that alcohol was more important than us.  It was always our fault, just breathing would make him take a drink.  I think that statement made him admit it was his problem and not the fault of Tyler or his siblings.

[geekamonggeeks]

Catelynn and Tyler are almost exactly like their parents. They don't work, don't have an education beyond their high school degrees, and live off of money they didn't really earn themselves. The only difference is that C&T aren't hardcore alcoholics or drug abusers...yet. They're both genetically predisposed to developing some kind of substance abuse problems if they aren't careful. They also both grew up in chaotic environments where drug use and heavy drinking were the norm (well, I know Kim's house was semi-normal, but I have no doubt that Tyler was exposed to those issues as well). If they really don't want to repeat their parents' mistakes with Nova, then they need to really start working on themselves and doing everything in their power not to end up like Butch and April. I don't feel like they care all that much. They probably figure they're better than their parents because they're not serious addicts. But there's always that possibility and they need to be more aware of it. 

[SPLAIN]

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I don't feel like they care all that much. They probably figure they're better than their parents because they're not serious addicts. But there's always that possibility and they need to be more aware of it. 

Tyler did say how they have a house and cars. He said it with such glee as if that is all that matters in the world - property and vehicles. The more cars the better. There were some other distorted comments Tyler made that pretty much sum up his belief he is in a much better place in life than his father and April.

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Catelynn and Tyler are almost exactly like their parents. They don't work, don't have an education beyond their high school degrees, and live off of money they didn't really earn themselves.

Agree. At least Butch and April have owned up to their addiction and have become clean and sober. They are working at being productive. They both work. They can't erase the past, but they are working on the present.

[CofCinci]

Apples don't fall far from trees. 

[iheartla]

I popped over to the Facebook TM page and someone said Catelynn and Tyler can, and should fight for their custody back (!?). The majority of the comments are anti-Brandon and Theresa. How dare they not let them talk about their daughter anymore. Carly is the whole reason they are on the show, they need to talk about her! Carly is going to miss her visits with Cate and Tyler so much, she loves them to pieces. B&T are evil. Some of these comments are getting over 1000 likes. The ignorance about adoption is alarming. 
I was adopted myself. My birth parents are just that, my birth parents. I'm so thankful that they were brave enough and wise enough to place me as an infant. I hit the jackpot in life considering what it could have been. I'm sure Carly will feel similarly.  

Edited August 31, 2016 by iheartla
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[CofCinci]

I feel so bad for Brandon and Teresa. They're most likely being contacted and harassed by C&T's insane fans, like they did a few years ago.  It doesn't look like C&T have asked their fans to respect B&T's privacy. 

[Katt]

@iheartla I warned you all not to go over there! Frustrating is not even the word...

[geekamonggeeks]

A few months ago, Catelynn and Tyler did a Q&A session on Facebook and somebody inevitably asked them if they would take Carly back if they could. Cate said that they wouldn't because she's Brandon and Teresa's daughter, and separating them would be cruel to all of them. She also pointed out that she and Tyler had signed away their parental rights seven years ago so they couldn't even try to get Carly back if they want to. Maybe I'm projecting, but Cate seemed so tired of answering this question. I personally think she's tired of talking about the adoption and what she would do or wouldn't do if she could make the decision to place Carly again. She did it, it's done, she can't go back. I'm sure she doesn't appreciate her crazy-ass fans telling her and Tyler to try and get Carly back, but she should probably try and set the record straight. Those fans are part of the reason why B&T have restricted contact so much. If they really want to help Catelynn and Tyler out, they would be stop with this nonsense. Of course, they won't because it requires maturity and sanity. 

[GreatKazu]

5 hours ago, jumper sage said:

@GreatKazu - first off, love the name.

If I could address the comment Butch made about loving drugs more than his son - having an alcoholic father who died recently with the ages of his children being in and around 50, he never said anything like that.  We waited a lifetime for him to admit that alcohol was more important than us.  It was always our fault, just breathing would make him take a drink.  I think that statement made him admit it was his problem and not the fault of Tyler or his siblings.

Thanks. I am a long-time Flintstones fan. :-)

Butch got some flak for his comment, but you are so right. Butch was clarifying what his state of mind was during his addiction. It was what he was reduced to as an addict. Any addict will tell you their drug of choice (or alcohol) is all they care about when they are in the throes of addiction. Their bodies and minds are craving that shit, and they have to have it at all costs. Family members be damned.

I am sorry for what you had to endure having a father who suffered from the disease Jumper Sage. I am also sorry about your loss. Hugs to you from afar.

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I'm sure she doesn't appreciate her crazy-ass fans telling her and Tyler to try and get Carly back, but she should probably try and set the record straight. Those fans are part of the reason why B&T have restricted contact so much. If they really want to help Catelynn and Tyler out, they would be stop with this nonsense. Of course, they won't because it requires maturity and sanity. 

Tyler and Cate have directly and indirectly egged their fans on with their constant yapping about Carly and the adoption in magazine articles, on social media and of course, on the show. Someone pointed it out earlier - sorry, forgot who posted this - but I agree with their opinion how that part of their journey is over. Done. What they should be talking about now is where they are in life now. Yeah, I know, they haven't moved forward much but, they do have a child. How about focusing on her? How about their relationships with their sober parents? There is far more to Tyler and Cate than Carly and that adoption. I just don't know what that is because they continue to drag Carly as their storyline. How sad life must be for Nova when her father fights tooth and nail to keep Carly's name on the show, as if nothing else is important. 

[evilmindatwork]

I don't know why they need to talk bout their relationship with Brandon and Theresa at all for story telling purposes. I think an equally compelling story is the fact that they're a couple, who gave a up a child for adoption, stayed together, and had another child. Talk about where they're going in the context of how the adoption shaped them. That can be done, no need to drag Carly and her adoptive parents as individuals into it. Not sure if that makes sense as written but it does in my head. 

[GreatKazu]

I am beginning to wonder if Tyler is worried to focus on anything else because it just might turn the spotlight on Catelynn and her emotions. He has to be the focus of eveeeeerything. Not to mention he may worry about looking bad (too late) if Catelynn begins talking about her relationship with him. I remember that scene where they had a disagreement in their car. Tyler walked out of the car and angrily went into their house. This was the scene where Catelynn mentioned his anger and temper to the cameras. I will guess Tyler wasn't too happy about Catelynn saying that and let her know it later when the cameras were gone. Tyler pretty much was browbeating Catelynn about that phone call with Theresa. Then, with a blank look he just stared at Nova who sat on the floor.

[geekamonggeeks]

10 hours ago, evilmindatwork said:

I don't know why they need to talk bout their relationship with Brandon and Theresa at all for story telling purposes. I think an equally compelling story is the fact that they're a couple, who gave a up a child for adoption, stayed together, and had another child. Talk about where they're going in the context of how the adoption shaped them. That can be done, no need to drag Carly and her adoptive parents as individuals into it. Not sure if that makes sense as written but it does in my head. 

That makes perfect sense. The adoption will always be a part of Catelynn and Tyler's lives, but that doesn't mean if has to be a part of the show. Plot-wise, it's done. They'be been talking about it for seven years, saying the same old things each and every season. Everybody who watched the show knows what they did for Carly. Tyler is a bullshitter to the highest degree. He doesn't give a shit about Carly or her privacy or how she really would feel that he thew tantrums about her parents over and over again like a kid who got denied desert after dinner. Most adoptions close when the adopted child is five or so. Carly is seven, and C&T still have steady contact with her. But that contact is a privilege, and privilege can be taken away at whatever time for whatever reason, regardless of what Tyler wants to think. 

I think I'm more disgusted by the fact that Tyler is willing to cut Catelynn off from Carly if it comes down to it. If he doesn't want or need a relationship with her, fine. Many birth parents do willingly cease contact with the children they placed for whatever reason. Granted, I've never heard of contact ending due to a TV show, but it does happen. However, Catelynn clearly doesn't want that. She still wants updates on Carly and keep up a relationship with her. For Tyler to make that choice for her, without her permission and against her wishes, is horrible. I wonder if he thinks that B&T will still keep up with Catelynn even after cutting him off, and wants to drag her down with him. He really does think he's better than Cate, and it would drive him crazy if she still had access to Carly and he didn't. So it's either all or nothing to this asshat. He is going to ruin Cate---if he hasn't already. 

[starfire]

I wish Cate would get a backbone and really stand up to Tyler. When Tyler was basically saying he didn't care what B&T want and he would do and say whatever he wanted in regards to Carly -- even at the risk of losing all contact with her -- Cate's response was so weak. She mentioned that his decision would affect her too, but she didn't sound very passionate about it.  What she sees in him is beyond me. It's like neither of them have grown up at all.

Tyler pretends he is supportive of Cate but he is a piece of crap. For example, when Cate mentions she is going to rejoin Weight Watchers, instead of being supportive, the first thing he does is go on and on about the "big ass" quesadilla she's eating. Sure, Cate may have been way off about the points, but I just wanted to slap the shit out of him. He is such an immature jerk.

I think Catelynn would have real potential for a productive, positive life if she surrounded herself with the right people and got rid of Tyler. I hope that someday she gets real professional help....... not from Dr. Drew or the copy room therapist.

[MargeGunderson]

34 minutes ago, starfire said:

I wish Cate would get a backbone and really stand up to Tyler. When Tyler was basically saying he didn't care what B&T want and he would do and say whatever he wanted in regards to Carly -- even at the risk of losing all contact with her -- Cate's response was so weak. She mentioned that his decision would affect her too, but she didn't sound very passionate about it.  What she sees in him is beyond me. It's like neither of them have grown up at all.

Tyler pretends he is supportive of Cate but he is a piece of crap. For example, when Cate mentions she is going to rejoin Weight Watchers, instead of being supportive, the first thing he does is go on and on about the "big ass" quesadilla she's eating. Sure, Cate may have been way off about the points, but I just wanted to slap the shit out of him. He is such an immature jerk.

I think Catelynn would have real potential for a productive, positive life if she surrounded herself with the right people and got rid of Tyler. I hope that someday she gets real professional help....... not from Dr. Drew or the copy room therapist.

Starfire, it's like you read my mind! The first weight Cate needs to lose is the 140 lb jerk she's attached to.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

19 hours ago, geekamonggeeks said:

Catelynn and Tyler are almost exactly like their parents. They don't work, don't have an education beyond their high school degrees, and live off of money they didn't really earn themselves. The only difference is that C&T aren't hardcore alcoholics or drug abusers...yet. They're both genetically predisposed to developing some kind of substance abuse problems if they aren't careful. They also both grew up in chaotic environments where drug use and heavy drinking were the norm (well, I know Kim's house was semi-normal, but I have no doubt that Tyler was exposed to those issues as well). If they really don't want to repeat their parents' mistakes with Nova, then they need to really start working on themselves and doing everything in their power not to end up like Butch and April. I don't feel like they care all that much. They probably figure they're better than their parents because they're not serious addicts. But there's always that possibility and they need to be more aware of it. 

To the part I bolded above - you are absolutely right and I think that the addiction "gene" is manifesting in Catelynn as a food addiction.

I say this as someone whose family tree is full of addicts (mostly alcoholics) and has dealt with food addiction as well. 

Edited August 31, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Katt]

It don't make no sense. He won't be silenced even if it means he's missing out on Carly? So, er, what can you say that you haven't already said when you have no contact with her again, therefore, no new lies, er, stories about how delighted she was to see you? 
You can talk about your feelings on the situation since placing the child, but SHE does not have to be personally brought in to it and nor do her parents. 
Gawd, I just feckin' hate him!

[ginger90]

Tyler tweeted that his reaction was prior to learning more information. I do believe things were clarified for him but he reacted like an ass regardless.

[CofCinci]

What information did Tyler need to know?  Carly's PARENTS asked for C&T to not mention the child on television to respect the child's privacy.  Did he need an explanation as to why her parents didn't want her discussed/featured on television???  Tyler is such a fucking brat. 

[SPLAIN]

3 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

What information did Tyler need to know?  Carly's PARENTS asked for C&T to not mention the child on television to respect the child's privacy.  Did he need an explanation as to why her parents didn't want her discussed/featured on television???  Tyler is such a fucking brat. 

Agree. The information he was likely told was they were going to call Tyler's bluff and told Catelynn they were going to close the adoption. 

 

24 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Tyler tweeted that his reaction was prior to learning more information. I do believe things were clarified for him but he reacted like an ass regardless.

We read about this a few pages back. It doesn't change a thing for me frankly simply because Tyler has always tried to do things his own way. This is not the first time he has gone against B&T's rules. He cried like a big baby when they got on him before for things he was posting.

Not only that, didn't Butch or someone on Tyler's side of the family take a photo of Carly at the wedding against the wishes of B&T? Wasn't it published in some magazine too? That was likely the straw that broke the camel's back for B&T.

[geekamonggeeks]

I feel for Brandon and Teresa. They just wanted to complete their family and now they're getting shit thrown on them seven years later for daring to care about their daughter's privacy. Tyler has done this shit before. He's given crap to B&T before, the fans harass them, and then he'll tell them to knock it off a few days later. I would love it if he stopped talking about Carly completely after Sunday's episode. He'll throw a fit about his "voice being silenced" but then he'll shut up once he realizes that B&T are serious about closing the adoption. That probably was the new info he received after his little rant---and this time, B&T are probably not bluffing. 

[ghoulina]

It does seem like there was something lost in translation, and I put that on Catelynn. Was she just too dim to understand? Did she WANT to hype it up and create more drama? There IS a difference between, "Please don't mention details of our conversations or visits on air" and "You can't say the name Carly or talk about her existence, at all, period". The former seems a bit more reasonable, IMO. However, they are her parents and can set up any boundaries they want, and if seeing Carly was actually important to Tyler, he'd swallow his pride and deal with it. 

Edited August 31, 2016 by ghoulina

[geekamonggeeks]

Yep, Catelynn confirmed in a scene on MTV.com that they're allowed to mention the adoption but not the specifics of what's going in Carly's life. So, for example, if Carly had a medical emergency like she needed an operation or something, then Catelynn and Tyler can't discuss it on camera. I'm sure they can mention vague things like how well Carly is doing in school or whatever, but nothing too personal. 

I just watched a scene from the upcoming episode and Catelynn gets a pet pig. Because that's all she needs; another thing to take care of completely by herself when she can hardly take care of Nova as it is. Oh, and Tyler apparently has no idea that Cate got a pig and she and the producers are scared of his reaction. Good going, Catelynn. 

Edited August 31, 2016 by geekamonggeeks

[ginger90]

How about Cate telling others about the conversation on camera and before discussing it with Tyler.

[starfire]

 They got a pet pig? Oh geez.  I hope Cate didn't buy what she was told is a "mini pig" and end up with a 650 pound house pig. LMAO. That's what happened to the owners of Esther the Wonder Pig.  https://www.facebook.com/estherthewonderpig/

Edited September 1, 2016 by starfire

[evilmindatwork]

Do these people LIKE living in puddles of urine and mounds of shit? Not saying everybody who has animals live in those conditions at all (Chelsea and Kail seem to do fine). But CT & Amber, in particular, have animals that aren't properly housebroken. Amber has a mini-zoo it looks like. But seriously, C&T have a couple of dogs? A one year old? And now a pig? Where does all this energy come from? Tbh Nova barely looks cared for. She's always in a dirty onesie, and her hair  always looks greasy- I think she's a super cute baby but nobody takes the time to run her a bath or feed her anything besides crackers. Properly care for the baby and beings that you're already responsible for before taking on more, C&T

[Katt]

I hate, HATE the idea of any animal being near Tyler. He punishes them for being exactly that, an animal. I'm sure everyone remembers the dog crap incident. He's so angry all the time, though. Bad enough for Nova that she has to be around him for the one week a month MTV is filming. 
Catelynn is clearly scared of him so why would she buy the pig withoutn discussing it with His Ladyship first?
Also, isn't this around the time Catelynn went to that Rehab-Not-For-Drugs place? Dickweed visited AZ about 50 times while she was there so who's looking after the pig? I'm sure it's rather different than say, looking after a neighbour's Betta.