Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Sequel

[apinknightmare]

2 minutes ago, Mary0360 said:

I love how he is never brave enough to say his shady things with his GATV account lol. 

He does have a long history of being triggered by Arrow, which I'm sure "a particular part of the fandom" would be happy to call him out on, LOL.

[Chaser]

7 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Yeah, they probably could've mollified this for a lot of people by just letting Felicity and Laurel have an honest conversation where Laurel apologized for kidnapping, assaulting, and/or trying to kill each member of the Queen family at one point or another. Making Felicity act like she has amnesia about all of that leaves a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

But whatever. Laurel had better buy them a banging baby/sorry-I-tried-to-kill-you-once! gift.

It's going to be really dumb to watch Felicity be justifiably angry at Diggle for working with a man who tried to kill her family when she's having lunch with a woman who did the same. Who actually did worse because she helped kill Samantha and put Thea in a coma.

[KenyaJ]

3 minutes ago, Chaser said:

It's going to be really dumb to watch Felicity be justifiably angry at Diggle for working with a man who tried to kill her family when she's having lunch with a woman who did the same. Who actually did worse because she helped kill Samantha and put Thea in a coma.

Shhhhhh.

[Mary0360]

2 minutes ago, Chaser said:

It's going to be really dumb to watch Felicity be justifiably angry at Diggle for working with a man who tried to kill her family when she's having lunch with a woman who did the same. Who actually did worse because she helped kill Samantha and put Thea in a coma.

And kidnapped and threatened William.

But yes, Felicity has every right to be angry at Diggle, but it's going to be hollow if she's super chill sitting with someone who only a little over a year ago was part of a plan to blow them all up Lian Yu and hasn't said so much as a "btw sorry about that whole thing". 

[Trini]

1 hour ago, Primal Slayer said:

Is Laurel going to be Mias godmother lol.

Or (partially) raised by her in the future? *plot twist*

[Primal Slayer]

5 minutes ago, Trini said:

Or (partially) raised by her in the future? *plot twist*

Dun dun dun! It'd be a good storyline and s good way to connect Laurel to the main story which means it ain't happening. 

[Velocity23]

6 minutes ago, Trini said:

Or (partially) raised by her in the future? *plot twist*

I see you havent been watching Arrow then. 

[Mary0360]

6 minutes ago, Trini said:

Or (partially) raised by her in the future? *plot twist*

If you actually watched Arrow you'd know the answer to that. 

[Chaser]

Laurel couldn’t even be trusted with a tattoo, why would they give her a child?

Edited February 15, 2019 by Chaser

[Primal Slayer]

It's an ugly tattoo, maybe she refused. If they have to separate might as well stick the baby with a power house like Buffy had to do with Dawn/Joyce with Spike.

[apinknightmare]

Just now, Primal Slayer said:

It's an ugly tattoo, maybe she refused. If they have to separate might as well stick the baby with a power house like Buffy had to do with Dawn/Joyce with Spike.

Laurel has an elbow macaroni tattooed on her. She has no tattoo standards. 

[insomniadreams88]

If Felicity does tell Laurel she's pregnant, it's pretty obvious the only reason we're getting this particular scene is Felicity has NO ONE ELSE to talk to. Diggle and Lyla are out due to the Diaz of it. Dinah's out because I don't think they've ever talked, plus she's probably dealing with the aftermath of her throat being slit. Rene's with Emiko and Oliver. Felicity hasn't met Emiko yet, and it's not like this would be a good topic for their first conversation. 

I mean, I guess Felicity could talk to JJ? Or they could have her talk to someone from another show, but that never happens. 

[Primal Slayer]

2 minutes ago, apinknightmare said:

Laurel has an elbow macaroni tattooed on her. She has no tattoo standards. 

She could regret it!

[apinknightmare]

Just now, Primal Slayer said:

She could regret it!

That's what lasers are for! What good is taking OtherLaurel's DA job and its salary if she doesn't use it?

[Mary0360]

3 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

 If they have to separate might as well stick the baby with a power house like Buffy had to do with Dawn/Joyce with Spike.

Yeah, maybe she can tell her bed time stories about the time she tried to kill and torture her mum and dad?

[Trini]

15 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Laurel couldn’t even be trusted with a tattoo, why would give her a child?

She and Felicity are friends now, anything's possible!

[Featherhat]

39 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

Shhhhhh.

They can borrow that from LOT. They even call them "memory flashy things". Or there abouts. I'm not triggered by Felicity and Siren's insta friendship. It's just par for the course with Laurel in so many storylines,

[Velocity23]

4 minutes ago, Trini said:

She and Felicity are friends now, anything's possible!

Sure. So is BS going back to her evil sides. Besides that its obvious that Mia is very close to the Diggles so it makes much more sense her being raised by them than BS.

[way2interested]

3 minutes ago, Trini said:

She and Felicity are friends now, anything's possible!

Ha, yeah, Laurel can just be the daycare for all of the Arrowverse kids besides William. Maybe that's how JJ and Mia know each other, and then they can have a line about her helping Iris raise Nora since Barry's gone in the future and a throwaway line about a future LoT kid or something.

[Primal Slayer]

12 minutes ago, Mary0360 said:

Yeah, maybe she can tell her bed time stories about the time she tried to kill and torture her mum and dad?

If that's the type of bedtime stories you want then sure.

[Mary0360]

3 minutes ago, way2interested said:

Ha, yeah, Laurel can just be the daycare for all of the Arrowverse kids besides William. Maybe that's how JJ and Mia know each other, and then they can have a line about her helping Iris raise Nora since Barry's gone in the future and a throwaway line about a future LoT kid or something.

Laurels baby day care! And that way all the Laurel fans upset that Felicity is being trapped in a baby storyline can get their concerns addressed by having Laurel off screen feeding and changing the nappies of Felicity and Iris babies like the Argus nanny. Win-win.

[Mellowyellow]

I'll admit I get some satisfaction in comic canon Laurel Lance (actually isn't it debatable whether this version is comic canon?) having to coo over the Olicity progeny and feed a pregnant Felicity 😂

[bijoux]

2 hours ago, Chaser said:

I'm going to be really annoyed if Felicity tells Laurel before Oliver.

Ok did SA get a hold of Felicity's wardrobe too? 

I don't care much for Emiko, but the actress is stunning. I wish Felicity was with them instead of having lunch with Laurel.

The pic of the three of them at the computer is especially jarring. Like, what the eff? If Felicity hadn't actually left the apartment a fee times, I'd start to suspect she'd developed agoraphobia. It would make more sense then all this twisting of characters they're doing. 

Also, I'm totally envious of SS's luscious locks, and wondering why Emiko has all those lockers. 

Maybe Flaurel can get a tour of William's room. 😡 This is insane in how unearned it is. 

2 hours ago, apinknightmare said:

I hope this is the last we see of Diaz. Please let this be the last we see of Diaz.

COME OOOONNNNNNNN!!!!!! 

[Chaser]

I want Felicity to meet Emiko.

[Sunshine]

Maybe Felicity tells Laurel about Diaz and the Ghost Initiative. Then Laurel takes Diaz out.  

IIRC, KA was talking about missing his cast mates shortly after this episode was filmed. I don’t know if he’s been seen since.  A girl can dream anyway.🤷‍♀️

[way2interested]

4 minutes ago, Sunshine said:

IIRC, KA was talking about missing his cast mates shortly after this episode was filmed. I don’t know if he’s been seen since.  A girl can dream anyway.🤷‍♀️

That was 715, but I'm still hoping that was his last too

[apinknightmare]

11 minutes ago, Sunshine said:

Maybe Felicity tells Laurel about Diaz and the Ghost Initiative. Then Laurel takes Diaz out.  

IIRC, KA was talking about missing his cast mates shortly after this episode was filmed. I don’t know if he’s been seen since.  A girl can dream anyway.🤷‍♀️

I'm worried that he's going to get away and that instead of terminating him, Lyla and Diggle will decide to let him go in the hopes that he can lead them to Dante, only for him to make them look like idiots—again—and disappear to show up again at the end of the season.

[Morrigan2575]

5 minutes ago, way2interested said:

That was 715, but I'm still hoping that was his last too

Was that the photo of him and the car?

[way2interested]

12 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Was that the photo of him and the car?

Yeah, that was during 715 filming

[BkWurm1]

4 hours ago, Chaser said:

It's going to be really dumb to watch Felicity be justifiably angry at Diggle for working with a man who tried to kill her family when she's having lunch with a woman who did the same. Who actually did worse because she helped kill Samantha and put Thea in a coma.

To be fair, Laurel is no longer trying to kill her or anyone else Felicity cares about versus Diaz who keeps vowing to do so.  And Diggle knows this and still offered Diaz a way to earn his freedom.  So for now, I'm giving Felicity the clear moral high ground. 

[KenyaJ]

2 hours ago, Chaser said:

I want Felicity to meet Emiko.

Wait, you want Felicity to meet and interact with a member of her family? Why would the writers do that?

I can't figure out why they didn't have Oliver introduce them at the police station in 511. Felicity still could've excused herself and given them time to chat by themselves.

[way2interested]

23 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

I can't figure out why they didn't have Oliver introduce them at the police station in 511. Felicity still could've excused herself and given them time to chat by themselves.

In the beginning of 711 the last thing Emiko said to him was that she wanted nothing to do with him, so I think randomly introducing Felicity before he even knew that Emiko was going to be more open to interaction would have been even more awkward. Yeah she showed up to talk to him which is a positive sign, but I think the idea of introducing his family after she said that she wanted nothing to do with his family is something he might have been wanting to avoid in order to get those baby steps at a better relationship with her.  

[tv echo]

Better pic of that baby doll on the Arrow set...

[BkWurm1]

Lol  The pot the doll lives in has Arrowverse misspelled with one r.  Arrow is not a hard word to spell.  I sometimes wonder about the level of education in the industry 

[way2interested]

24 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

Lol  The pot the doll lives in has Arrowverse misspelled with one r.  Arrow is not a hard word to spell.  I sometimes wonder about the level of education in the industry 

That's a watermark for the picture

[BkWurm1]

1 hour ago, way2interested said:

That's a watermark for the picture

Oops.  Then journalists?  Lol

[way2interested]

7 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

Oops.  Then journalists?  Lol

Eh, it's not a journalist really. It's just a person in Twitter whose friend works on the crew and sends them pics of the sets. The baby doll was one of them and now that they posted the full pic instead of a partial one they hastily put a watermark of their twitter that was mispelled

[Mary0360]

Isn't that doll hair to dark to be baby Mia? Maybe it's Emikos back story/flashbacks instead? 

[way2interested]

12 minutes ago, Mary0360 said:

Isn't that doll hair to dark to be baby Mia? Maybe it's Emikos back story/flashbacks instead? 

I'm still very much thinking it's just baby Jenna from Flash (it's the doll they use for her anyway) and that the picture is just from HS, JLM, and DN using an Arrow set for Flash filming (per their pic the same day when they were near the Arrow set) or it's a mini crossover with them. The person has gotten guesses wrong based on set photos they've gotten before.

Edited February 16, 2019 by way2interested

[Velocity23]

10 hours ago, way2interested said:

I'm still very much thinking it's just baby Jenna from Flash (it's the doll they use for her anyway) and that the picture is just from HS, JLM, and DN using an Arrow set for Flash filming (per their pic the same day when they were near the Arrow set) or it's a mini crossover with them. The person has gotten guesses wrong based on set photos they've gotten before.

Its from filming Arrow.  I doubt they will show the Flash baby on Arrow.

[tv echo]

SS has now moved to L.A....

[Mellowyellow]

Was the Maya/Mia thing just them tricking people with the names? Probably just Beth hiding spoilers yes?

Cuz if this was a Chinese series Olicity will be hiding their twins Maya Smoak and Mia Smoak as the ultimate gotcha.

[way2interested]

5 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said:

Was the Maya/Mia thing just them tricking people with the names? Probably just Beth hiding spoilers yes?

Cuz if this was a Chinese series Olicity will be hiding their twins Maya Smoak and Mia Smoak as the ultimate gotcha.

[Mellowyellow]

Thanks @way2interested

DC approval maybe? Lol I want a reason dammnit 😂

[apinknightmare]

18 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said:

Thanks @way2interested

DC approval maybe? Lol I want a reason dammnit 😂

Probably because there's a Mia in the comics and they didn't want people to put that together and figure out what it might mean for her character. 

[tv echo]

Katherine McNamara | Instagram Live Stream | 18 February 2019
Published on Feb 19, 2019, by Celebrity Snapchat Diaries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z50bRSrBDfo

-- KM: "To speak about brothers and sisters on television, William and Mia's relationship... is also very interesting, because it's not easy to be the child of vigilantes. It's not easy to be the child of superheroes. And so, only the two of them understand what it's like to have parents that - to have those parents that will sacrifice everything, including their children, to save the greater good. And that causes a lot of ... (long pause) ... issues within and between the two of them. And also it's a very interesting situation because they're both jealous of each other, in certain ways. You know, William isn't the biological child of both of them, but Mia's childhood was a lot different than William's. So it's very interesting to see how the two of them relate, how they get along, and also where that little bit of sibling rivalry lies."

-- KM: "Why Mia Smoak and not Mia Queen? Interesting question. Question I've gotten a lot. Uh, what I can say is that it speaks to the harshness of Star City in 2040, the fact that even having the name 'Queen' puts a target on your back, and it also has a lot to do with how Mia feels about her father. Uh, but we'll get into more of that later."

-- KM: "Yes, I will be in the next Arrow episode. It's not till March 4th, but, yes, I will be in that episode."

-- When asked to talk about Arrow, KM: "I can say that, as the episodes move on, you learn even more about Mia and about her past and kinda why she is the way she is, as well as more about this future and the future of Star City and what it's become and more about the Glades and kinda this world and why it is so harsh and how it got to be the way that it is."

-- KM: "New characters? Yes, in both shows, there are new characters I think you guys will really enjoy."

-- KM was on the Arrow set when she did this instagram live chat.

Edited February 19, 2019 by tv echo

[apinknightmare]

2 hours ago, tv echo said:

even having the name 'Queen' puts a target on your back, and it also has a lot to do with how Mia feels about her father.

Sorry, Oliver. Your crusade doesn't matter, your life (if you even still have one) is shit and both of your kids hate you. You worked so hard for nothing, congrats! 

Edited February 19, 2019 by apinknightmare

[Kymmi]

If SS moved to LA, what does that mean for Emiko for the rest of this season?  They wouldn't just drop that storyline, right?  Maybe she had a few weeks off and chose to move then?  It's confusing.

[lemotomato]

7 minutes ago, Kymmi said:

If SS moved to LA, what does that mean for Emiko for the rest of this season?  They wouldn't just drop that storyline, right?  Maybe she had a few weeks off and chose to move then?  It's confusing.

It doesn’t mean anything. Most of the regulars keep a residence in LA. And Sea posted an on-set selfie a week or two ago. 

[catrox14]

Do you guys think this has to do with Elseworlds and that maybe Mia is from and she is talking about Elseworlds Oliver v  OUR Oliver being her father?