gatopretoNYC September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, HartofDixie said: https://mobile.twitter.com/BB_Updates/status/1043727431129919489 Heh. One of the replies called Tyler & Kaycee the BunMance. :D 7 Link to comment
CrazyDog September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nashville said: And not just a mustache - a true pornstache! BTW - A m00se once bit my sister.... ;> Oh HELL no. Final HoH Part 3 isn’t until Wednesday, on the live Finale. Would you want to spend the next 3-1/2 days listening to JC yell and scream and fuss and swear and plead and threaten...? No? Didn’t think so. ;) Do tell :) I know they have to play nice for his vote, but I don't know...even in their shoes, I might find it kind of satisfying to see his freakout :) He's pissy already. I mean, he has to vote for one of them...but yeah, Tyler is going to get the brunt of his anger. Even if Kaycee wins the final HOH and is the one to boot JC, I wonder if she has JC's vote now, 100%. Or will his vote solely go to the one who doesn't evict him? I hate that the end drags on for 4 more days...ugh. Link to comment
gatopretoNYC September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nashville said: Would you want to spend the next 3-1/2 days listening to JC yell and scream and fuss and swear and plead and threaten...? No? Didn’t think so. ;) I kinda think he's gonna do that anyway... 11 Link to comment
atomic September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 Is Brett a secret Canadian along with a secret cyber security engineer? 7 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, gatopretoNYC said: I kinda think he's gonna do that anyway... Nah; if JC doesn’t know he isn’t already doomed, he’ll just wheedle and cajole instead - trying to cut a deal which he doesn’t know will never happen. MUCH quieter. ;) Link to comment
Brian Cronin September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I can't get over how relieved I am right now. :) I think Tyler "deserves" the win, but Kaycee is pretty damn deserving, as well, so I would be totally cool with her winning. JC winning, though, would suck so damn much. Partially because I really need him to know he didn't control the season and if he finishes F2, he'll never know that. I agree that you shouldn't tell JC, like, TONIGHT, but they have to tell him tomorrow or Monday, to give him time to process. He's going to be a dick no matter what, this way he has a chance to process what is going on before Wednesday and there is a CHANCE he might vote for Tyler then. But yes, for Kaycee's sake, it is better to let him stew. 9 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) I can never tell if JC is taking a shower, or if someone went off and left the shower running. Ok, then - say Tyler and Kaycee do clue in JC on the facts of life a day or so before Finale, and JC has enough time to quit being a bigger crying bitch than Britney was when the Brigade broke the news to her. Once he’s finally cooled down some, for whom do you think JC ends up voting? Edited September 23, 2018 by Nashville 5 Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 JC gonna represent for the LGBT community, imo. Kaycee. 1 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nashville said: A møøse once bit my sister.... ;> Quote Do tell :) No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"... (Extra points if you know wtf I’m going on about). ;> Edited September 23, 2018 by Nashville Accuracy! 4 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lonesome Rhodes said: JC gonna represent for the LGBT community, imo. Kaycee. Quite possibly - but since technically JC hasn’t been voted out yet, I think he would still try throwing one final threat at both Tyler and Kaycee. Something along the lines of, “Whichever one of you wins Final HoH - if you DON’T take me to F2 with you, then I’m a guaranteed vote against you.” 3 Link to comment
CrazyDog September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nashville said: No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"... (Extra points if you know wtf I’m going on about). ;> Oh. Em. Gee. I have not seen that movie in years. I did not even remember that part at all. LOL, I feel dumb. And I also realize I need to rewatch it very soon. lol. ETA: JC's vote - hard to say. He'll feel the most betrayed by Tyler, but....I think it just might be the one who doesn't send him packing. CBS better be ready to mute his mic (and Scottie's) during the live show though. Edited September 23, 2018 by CrazyDog 1 Link to comment
llongori September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CrazyDog said: Oh. Em. Gee. I have not seen that movie in years. I did not even remember that part at all. LOL, I feel dumb. And I also realize I need to rewatch it very soon. lol. You need to read the credits at the beginning of the movie. Lordy, I've seen that movie SO many times over the years, the first time at a *gasp* drive-in in 1975. Edited September 23, 2018 by llongori 3 Link to comment
SiobhanJW September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, gatopretoNYC said: Heh. One of the replies called Tyler & Kaycee the BunMance. :D Awhile back- Kaycee said to Tyler that they aren't a Bromance or a Showmance- they are a Bunmance. It had to have been a month- month and half ago. They both laughed about it. I wish I could find that clip somewhere. 6 Link to comment
Skycatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 Tyler and JC talking about their "alliance" , with JC going on and on about how surprised everybody's going to be when they find out about it. 1 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, CrazyDog said: Oh. Em. Gee. I have not seen that movie in years. I did not even remember that part at all. LOL, I feel dumb. And I also realize I need to rewatch it very soon. lol. Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti... ;> https://youtu.be/djKPvXDwXcs 3 Link to comment
CrazyDog September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 And here I go, sucked down a YouTube movie clip spiral...better than studying medical terminology right now. Or I can watch Tyler toy with JC...lol. Both Tyler and Kaycee are going to earn their money over the next few days. 6 Link to comment
Brian Cronin September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I'm not saying that he won't be super betrayed by Tyler and vote against him on principle, but at the same time, how much of a dick does he have to be to go on and on about how they're all morons and he's fooling them and then have the nerve to be pissed when someone plays him? Oh, right, as much of a dick as JC is. 15 Link to comment
Skycatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said: how much of a dick does he have to be Is this a trick question? Is there a limit? 21 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said: I'm not saying that he won't be super betrayed by Tyler and vote against him on principle, but at the same time, how much of a dick does he have to be to go on and on about how they're all morons and he's fooling them and then have the nerve to be pissed when someone plays him? Oh, right, as much of a dick as JC is. In truth? I kinda get the vibe JC is incapable of conceptualizing a strategy which doesn’t assume people will act/react the way he wants them to, in the manner which benefits him the most. JC reminds me a lot of Amanda Zuckerman <aack phffft> in that respect, which may be one of the reasons I so heartily detest JC. Edited September 23, 2018 by Nashville Formatting, editing 14 Link to comment
Brian Cronin September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Nashville said: In truth? I kinda get the vibe JC is incapable of conceptualizing a strategy which doesn’t depend upon people acting/reacting the way he wants them to, in the manner which benefits him the most. JC reminds me a lot of Amanda Zuckerman <aack phffft> in that respect, which may be one of the reasons I so heartily detest JC. Oooh...good comp. Who did Amanda vote for in the finale? Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I just woke up and I'm hoping beyond hope that what I'm reading is true. Is it true? Is it really, really true that JC is now out of contention for F2? Oh. Praise the Dogs if it can really be true! I would be so thrilled and happy if only someone would be so kind as to confirm to me it is true. Oopps! By the way. We can praise the Gods as well as the Dogs. Please? 1 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said: Oooh...good comp. Who did Amanda vote for in the finale? Andy and GinaMarie were the F2 that season. Amanda went out on GM’s HoH: GM put Amanda and her showmance McCrae side-by side OTB, McCrae won PoV and came down, Spencer was the replacement nom, and Amanda went to the JH. At the Finale, Amanda voted for Andy to win. 2 Link to comment
Skycatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) Don't get too excited yet. The winner of the final comp between Tyler and KC chooses from the other 2 players who goes to F2 with them. If Tyler and KC both honor their F2 agreement then yeah JC is out. But if either of them decides they can beat JC and is willing to dump their F2 pact, JC still has a chance, damn it. Edited September 23, 2018 by Skycatcher Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, MissBluxom said: I just woke up and I'm hoping beyond hope that what I'm reading is true. Is it true? Is it really, really true that JC is now out of contention for F2? Oh. Praise the Dogs if it can really be true! I would be so thrilled and happy if only someone would be so kind as to confirm to me it is true. Oopps! By the way. We can praise the Gods as well as the Dogs. Please? Uh, technically... no. JC is definitely out of the running to win FHoH, that is true - but it doesn’t rule out the possibility (however remote) of the FHoH winner picking JC to sit beside them at F2. 3 Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nashville said: Uh, technically... no. JC is definitely out of the running to win FHoH, that is true - but it doesn’t rule out the possibility (however remote) of the FHoH winner picking JC to sit beside them at F2. Oh No! I felt my heart leap up into my mouth. I think I'm having a heart attack. But that is entirely ameliorated (do you like that word? I got the feeling you would like it), by the fact that he can't win FHoH. That is really good news. From what I understand, the odds that either KC or Tyler would choose to bring him to F2 are extremely slim. For sure, one of those two will have to decide whether or not they will bring him. All that I can do is pray to the Dogs that that neither one of them would do that. It's just hope beyond hope! 2 Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Skycatcher said: Don't get too excited yet. The winner of the final comp between Tyler and KC chooses from the other 2 players who goes to F2 with them. If Tyler and KC both honor their F2 agreement then yeah JC is out. But if either of them decides they can beat JC and is willing to dump their F2 pact, JC still has a chance, damn it. Oh Bleh! One good piece of news in that is that both Tyler and KC must realize that if they were to dump their F2 agreement with The Rat, that will almost certainly be one vote against them in the final vote for the Grand Prize. The Rat would almost certainly vote against anyone who did that to him - even though he may think that he really is in love (Puke! Puke! Puke!) with Tyler, if Tyler dumped him, he would almost certainly dump Tyler in the F2 vote. I can't imagine that anyone would sit still for being dumped yet still vote for the dumper in the F2 vote. Even though JC looks pretty much like part of a dump hisself! I can't imagine anyone who looks more like a big old piece of human dumpage than that dirty rat!! What a Rat! What a dirty filthy Rat!!! Edited September 23, 2018 by MissBluxom 1 Link to comment
Nashville September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, MissBluxom said: Oh No! I felt my heart leap up into my mouth. I think I'm having a heart attack. But that is entirely ameliorated (do you like that word? I got the feeling you would like it), by the fact that he can't win FHoH. That is really good news. To a huge degree, yes - I think my diastolic BP went down 10 points just hearing the news. :) 4 minutes ago, MissBluxom said: From what I understand, the odds that either KC or Tyler would choose to bring him to F2 are extremely slim. IMHO JC’s chances of making it to F2 are now right up there with a snowball’s chance in San Antonio - so yeah, I’m happy. 2 Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nashville said: To a huge degree, yes - I think my diastolic BP went down 10 points just hearing the news. :) IMHO JC’s chances of making it to F2 are now right up there with a snowball’s chance in San Antonio - so yeah, I’m happy. Oh Nash! I knew there must have been a reason why I liked and admired you so quickly after reading one of your first posts here. You have no idea how truly happy you have just made me. Please let me know if there is ever anything I can do for you. I am sending you a private message with an idea you may like. Of course, you may not like it either. What they Hey! I'm so happy that I'm truly giddy! OK. Message sent. Edited September 23, 2018 by MissBluxom Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, jumper sage said: Me and @Nashville have had a F2 since week 2. There are zero reviews. This does not bode well. I don't blame him though, it is the American way. I think some BB players think the game is bigger than it is. I didn't even remember Rachel from THIS season............................... Oh Jumper! I got a good Belly LOL from that. Good one! Link to comment
aurora296 September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 1:24 AM, McKinezeInFloMnd said: Does anyone else think Tyler intentionally threw the final 4 veto? Angela said in an interview that she thought so. 1 Link to comment
retiredviewer September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I must have missed something. Why didn't Angela go to the jury house? Link to comment
RandomWatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, retiredviewer said: I must have missed something. Why didn't Angela go to the jury house? I think by the time Angela was evicted, everyone had been moved to a hotel or something. 2 Link to comment
mertensia September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 Yeah, I agree with Swaggy (I can't believe I just typed that). Shut the Fuck Up and get a job, JC. Welcome to reality. 22 Link to comment
Lamima September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 6 hours ago, MissBluxom said: Oh Bleh! One good piece of news in that is that both Tyler and KC must realize that if they were to dump their F2 agreement with The Rat, that will almost certainly be one vote against them in the final vote for the Grand Prize. The Rat would almost certainly vote against anyone who did that to him - even though he may think that he really is in love (Puke! Puke! Puke!) with Tyler, if Tyler dumped him, he would almost certainly dump Tyler in the F2 vote. I can't imagine that anyone would sit still for being dumped yet still vote for the dumper in the F2 vote. Even though JC looks pretty much like part of a dump hisself! I can't imagine anyone who looks more like a big old piece of human dumpage than that dirty rat!! What a Rat! What a dirty filthy Rat!!! I wonder if Tyler will be ballsy enough to throw final part to KC making her be the one to cut JC???? 1 Link to comment
aurora296 September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 20 hours ago, Neveragain said: I agree with this...although need to point out that Kaycee didn’t get chosen for veto the first few weeks so she couldn’t work hers as well But I can never forget how Tyler did one thing that really impressed me early on. When Rachel Reilly rang the doorbell and they all got excited, he tamped his excitement down outwardly. He later said (I guess it was in the DR? Can’t remember) that he was so thrilled and wanted to react but didn’t want to give away that he was a Superfan by how insanely excited he really was. I thought that was really quick thinking bc it was his instant reaction to a total surprise, yet he was able to immediately put his game face on. That’s a guy who came to play. (His skill in love in markedly less impressive to me lol) When Nicole came into the house and everyone was upstairs in the HOH room, when they noticed her on camera in the house, Tyler said OMG! IT'S NIC.....ole. He checked himself halfway into saying her name. It's gotta be tough being such a fan and sucking up all your excitement. 5 Link to comment
Wings September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I love Monte Python and at one point my sons could recite most of the dialog from Holy Grail. They didn’t retain the credits apparently. 3 Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Lamima said: I wonder if Tyler will be ballsy enough to throw final part to KC making her be the one to cut JC???? That is very clever of you. I don't recall anyone else suggesting that. Really. What a clever move! It's a way to get one extra vote and take away one vote from KC. Edited September 23, 2018 by MissBluxom 1 Link to comment
aurora296 September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Brian Cronin said: Speaking of Tyler's ability to lie well, how dumb was Brett making fun of how obvious Tyler is when he lies while telling the story of how tyler fooled him during double eviction? If he's such an obvious liar, why didn't you get that he was lying?!? Brett said he knew that Tyler was lying, so he didn't throw the veto at all, like Tylers asked. He fought for it. You can see when watching the competition , As soon as it was ready, set, GO!... Brett springs forward hard, but too hard to where he kinda trips on the astroturf and loses his balance. He ended up with a bloody hand from that fall, but kept going hard. 2 Link to comment
MisterBluxom September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Skycatcher said: Tyler and JC talking about their "alliance" , with JC going on and on about how surprised everybody's going to be when they find out about it. I won't mind. So long as JC is the most surprised. I wonder if Tyler can mist him into believing that "Alliance" means something else in English that what JC thinks it means. That would be a wonderful test of Tyler's misting abilities. "Oh Senor? Halliance? She means we sposezed to vote againsted each of hus? Oh No. Sacre Condeezos! What a beeg meestake I am making! 1 Link to comment
Lady Calypso September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 9 hours ago, atomic said: Is Brett a secret Canadian along with a secret cyber security engineer? Man, if he was a secret Canadian, then I'd have a chance! 8 hours ago, Brian Cronin said: I can't get over how relieved I am right now. :) I think Tyler "deserves" the win, but Kaycee is pretty damn deserving, as well, so I would be totally cool with her winning. JC winning, though, would suck so damn much. Partially because I really need him to know he didn't control the season and if he finishes F2, he'll never know that. I agree that you shouldn't tell JC, like, TONIGHT, but they have to tell him tomorrow or Monday, to give him time to process. He's going to be a dick no matter what, this way he has a chance to process what is going on before Wednesday and there is a CHANCE he might vote for Tyler then. But yes, for Kaycee's sake, it is better to let him stew. I'm so content with either a Tyler or Kaycee win. Either one works well with me because they've both played the game in their own ways. Kaycee was smart in throwing comps and laying low. She built up some solid relationships for the first half. She didn't really piss anyone off and she didn't come off as a comp threat. Then, she began winning comps when it mattered. Fessy didn't put up Kaycee or Angela the week of his HOH because he thought they sucked at comps. That worked in their favour. And we know Tyler's done a great job in the game. Both are very deserving and now I'm very content with this F2. 7 hours ago, Skycatcher said: Don't get too excited yet. The winner of the final comp between Tyler and KC chooses from the other 2 players who goes to F2 with them. If Tyler and KC both honor their F2 agreement then yeah JC is out. But if either of them decides they can beat JC and is willing to dump their F2 pact, JC still has a chance, damn it. I feel 99% confident that JC's not touching that F2 block. Kaycee will NEVER EVER EVER bring JC, and Tyler would probably rather lose to Kaycee than JC. He wouldn't want to give him the satisfaction of thinking that he truly has been running the house, along with the fact that JC's closer to the Hive than Tyler. 3 Link to comment
Skycatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: She built up some solid relationships for the first half. She didn't really piss anyone off ........ she began winning comps when it mattered. AND.........she ONLY won vetoes which I don't recall her ever using, so she never suffered from the dreaded HOH BOMH. She may be going into F2 as the "cleanest" player ever. Since she sent no one out she has no enemies in the JH. Gotta wonder if avoiding an HOH win was a strategy on her part. Link to comment
Lady Calypso September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 Just now, Skycatcher said: AND.........she ONLY won vetoes which I don't recall her ever using, so she never suffered from the dreaded HOH BOMH. She may be going into F2 as the "cleanest" player ever. Since she sent no one out she has no enemies in the JH. Gotta wonder if avoiding an HOH win was a strategy on her part. Well, she did win HOH, the one that Brett almost won to get out Haleigh. But even then, I'm not so sure Haleigh hates Kaycee, since Kaycee won HOH at a time where it doesn't really matter. She only might lose Haleigh's vote because Haleigh simply likes Tyler more and potentially respects his gameplay, rather than her hating Kaycee. 1 Link to comment
Michichick September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skycatcher said: AND.........she ONLY won vetoes which I don't recall her ever using, so she never suffered from the dreaded HOH BOMH. She may be going into F2 as the "cleanest" player ever. Since she sent no one out she has no enemies in the JH. Gotta wonder if avoiding an HOH win was a strategy on her part. Kaycee won an HOH, didn’t she? I remember her letter from her brother in her HOH basket. Link to comment
atomic September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: Well, she did win HOH, the one that Brett almost won to get out Haleigh. But even then, I'm not so sure Haleigh hates Kaycee, since Kaycee won HOH at a time where it doesn't really matter. She only might lose Haleigh's vote because Haleigh simply likes Tyler more and potentially respects his gameplay, rather than her hating Kaycee. I think Haleigh actually likes Kaycee on a personal level more than Tyler. She explicitly said in her Off the Block interview with Ross and Marissa that she felt like she got really close to Kaycee in her last couple weeks in the house and is rooting for her to win the game. I think while she has a genuine respect for Tyler’s game and isn’t bitter towards him, she just wants Kaycee to win more. It probably could have been different if Tyler’s social game had stayed on point instead of getting so wrapped up in Angela, since she did have a better relationship with Tyler early on. Link to comment
twilightzone September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) KC also won the Hacker comp. In an interview that Brett did after he was evicted, he felt KC was playing the best game and that she would have the jury votes - over Tyler (and Angela) - because they aren't bothered by her. Edited September 23, 2018 by twilightzone 1 Link to comment
Ceeg September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I’ve been a huge Tyler fan since almost Day 1, and I think he’s busted his ass and played the game better than anyone in the house throughout the summer. But somehow for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on, I find myself hoping for a Kaycee win. 5 Link to comment
jumper sage September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 11 hours ago, CrazyDog said: I'm glad someone confirmed Kaycee won, because they all look beat right now. Are they going to tell JC about their alliance? It is hilarious that they need to tell him they have an alliance. He couldn't see an alliance picking off everyone but themselves? He couldn't see that Kaycee, or maybe Angela, saying that they will be friends forever and then never looked at him? 10 hours ago, Nashville said: Once he’s finally cooled down some, for whom do you think JC ends up voting? I don't know. I can see him voting for Tyler because he has a crush on him and I can see him voting for Kaycee for their community, though I doubt Kaycee wants him in her community. I will have to place my bet on whoever doesn't win HoH and votes him out. I guess I take him at his word. Who wants to bet that both Tyler and Kaycee are hoping for an earthquake that just moves him off? 3 Link to comment
Skycatcher September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 Thanks for clarifying the HOH wIn. I completely forgot about that one. Also forgot about her winning the Hacker. She was so quiet about that as opposed to Hay who called house meetings to be sure everyone knew she had it - idjit. Did the house ever find out that KC had won the Hacker? I remember Hay heard KC celebrating at the end of the comp but I don't remember if the whole house knew. Link to comment
Neveragain September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ceeg said: I’ve been a huge Tyler fan since almost Day 1, and I think he’s busted his ass and played the game better than anyone in the house throughout the summer. But somehow for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on, I find myself hoping for a Kaycee win. So funny. I agree that Tyler has played the best game by far, and I think he deserves the win. I really do. His play has impressed me from the start. Yet somehow I’m in the same situation, can’t figure out why, my head says Tyler but my heart seems to say Kaycee. She has grown on me these past couple of weeks. Maybe I feel that Tyler feels entitled to it? Maybe she seems joyous about it where he seems so calculated? I don't know what it is. But it’s something. 5 Link to comment
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