S02.E17: Chapter Thirty: The Noose Tightens

[The Crazed Spruce]

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Riverdale High's student council election heats up; Archie steps up to help after learning that Hiram's mobster associates have come to Riverdale to stir up trouble; an unexpected guest shows up at the Cooper residence.

[WhosThatGirl]

Sisters of quiet mercy is so terrible. And I love a Cheryl scene but then it turned into a black and white movie thing? 

 

Okay first off.. the black and white movie thing.. ugh. I’m sorry this season Kevin is not a character I care about at all anymore. I’d rather deal with the Mayor stuff/Lodges building a prison which is so boring but more than anything to do with Kevin. They really ruined the character this season.  So yeah we could be spending time on other scenes like Toni and Cheryl. Or even more Bughead scenes because we can never have enough of those! (I’m no longer going to be sorry about my love of needing Bughead scenes, I barley got any in the beginning of this season so yeah). But no.. I feel like I was supposed to feel something about the black and white scene but I was.. over it by the time it started.  Kevin bugs now. So yeah.. I wish I could have fast forwarded the beginning thing. I did not even really pay attention to what it was supposed to be doing or telling me.

 

Student council President stuff.. just as boring as the adult mayor stuff. “And we’re chill.. unlike those guys” meaning the Bughead and Varchie ships. Getting Meta there with your fans writers?

 

Fred Rules. I’m on his side. He may be overreacting about this prison stuff but all the same, he’s my favorite character on this show at this point. Because I still don’t buy that the prison is just a prison.

 

Mary asking Archie for a favor.. good luck with that, Mary. 

 

Ugh. Who would have guessed that drowning a car in a lake was not going to end well? All of us viewers. Again.. what was the reason to bring Chic in this show? Is anything that he brought into this show a good story? Is anybody enjoying watching Alice, FP, Betty, and Jughead cover up a murder? Please tell me.  Because this is terrible. Chic is a terrible vortex in this show. 

 

Aw the scene with Jughead Betty Alice and FP at Pops. Also yes FP Chic should be there! Why are these people helping a person who has done nothing to help cover things up at all! Also sorry Alice, I’m on bettys Side, chic is an awful character, I’ll like you a lot better when he leaves too.

 

Anytime Hiram has “associates” from NY, I fall asleep. How can they make his mob side stuff so boring? 

 

I kind of love Sweet Pea, he sort of has a point about Betty I guess, although he’s a little prejudiced about it and I think this is like the first time he has spoken more than two lines. Also the serpents probably aren’t voting at all. I very much doubt they would vote for Varchie(they all hate Archie, don’t they? Unless we’re supposed to forget the brawls in the rain way back this season) and I doubt they like Reggie or Josie enough, so my guess is they are no votes from the gang.

 

Reggie VA Archie. I choose Reggie. I would probably vote for Reggie and Josie even though I love my Bughead, I don’t know.

 

Also I love and have shipped Cheryl and Toni for a while now but yeah now they seem to be going in lighting speed (kind of like how people think Bughead went in season one I guess) it just feels like there was no real build up to them and now Toni is becoming her hero and it’s kind of like “are they even a couple yet? Have they even talked about it” people complained about Bugheads lighting speed but hell.. they at least had friendship history. They took forever to even Cheryl and Toni interact and then almost kiss and now Toni is trying to save her from the mental ward place. Like whoa. Feels a little fast. It’s like the writers realized they wasted so long in getting them together and now they’re at episode 17 and we should get this thing going. It’s fine I’m all for it, I just find it funny that Toni is already all in to battle Penelope for Cheryl. 

 

I like that Josie and Veronica are automatically willing to help Cheryl right away, no questions asked. I’m a little sad Betty wasn’t a part of that conversation. I suppose given her history with Toni and that’s she’s on the outs with Veronica and she’s preoccupied with her maybe faux brother is why, but also once again she would be better used in this storyline if you ask me.

 

Sisters of Quiet mercy.. scary and awful.

 

Okay, yeah I can’t not laugh whenever they have a Hiram mob like scene. And now Archie is getting involved, I can’t take this seriously. And that’s why I loved when the mob people did not either. I know I’m supposed to believe Archie is turning to the dark side but I can’t buy it.

 

Bughead scene. And now they’re investigating to keep people off their trail so no one suspects them. They’re still cute, I’m not the biggest fan of where their stories are right now in this show but whatever this show still has me because of them. 

 

“Kevin didn’t suspect anything” he probably never will, betty. I don’t see Kevin being all that suspectful of anything. Yes please move out Chic. Also betty is an idiot for thinking she would be allowed to stay with Jughead. What did she think would happen? But also sad we never got much Bughead domestic scenes. I wanted more. 

 

Poor Cheryl.

 

Seriously.. love how Toni is all to bat for Cheryl. Also god damn poor nana blossom. She looks barley alive. Also yes!!! Josie is now finding out Cheryl’s obsession with her! Also yes.. Josie has every right to be freaked out by Cheryl because of this, I’m glad the show brought it up.

 

Okay.. really I don’t really think Betty is going to get a tattoo. I know she wants to prove herself to the gang, but really.. I think she’s just trying to tick off Alice for making her come home.

 

Aw Jughead helping Fred. Aw, his other dad.

 

Also Chic brought home the girl whose car it was? That’s helpful Chic. I couldn’t tell if chic was really

Trying to help or making things worse on purpose?   Also this Darla person wants 10 grand and Alice is just going to fork it over?  Why is Alice terrible now? 

 

Archie finds out one of the mobster is double crossing Hiram. Well obviously, they were laughing at you guys at the spaghetti dinner. They aren’t exactly scared of either of you. 

 

Can we go back to saving Cheryl from sisters of quiet mercy now? That’s my favorite part of this entire episode. Don’t get me wrong I love the Bughead scenes but they are pretty infected with Chic now, so..

 

More mob stuff. So both Veronica and Archie are all in on the mob stuff now. 

 

Poor Nana Blossom. The water closet? I feel like Nana Blossom isn’t doing great right now. That made me sad when she had to crawl to the phone.  But also Nana Blossom remembered Toni! That’s adorable! But now Claudis is going to kill her

Probably!

 

Okay so Alice is like forking over 10

Grand and now more random trashy people are  coming to the Cooper house. And it’s the guy that Betty saved Chic from. Chic is the worst.

 

Kevin gives some info on conversion therapy and the tunnels to get to them. 

 

Also yes Jughead and the serpents arrive to protect the Coopers. Although I remember seeing the picture a while ago and thinking the serpents were coming to get rid of chic for Betty. Not this. Either way it’s awesome but still.. Chic is still there and he still sucks. In general and the life out of this show.  

 

Hey Alice is finally getting some sense and making Chic leave. Finally! That took forever.

 

Also I guess Veronica wanted Archie to leave so she could sneak out to find Cheryl with Toni? Also more mob type stuff.  The mob people are against the prison? 

 Aw Poor Fred. Archie bailed. To meet with Reggie and tell him that’s he will give him all the football player votes if they talk to others about the prison? I’m sure Veronica will love that.

 

Yay, saving Cheryl from sisters of quiet mercy! And going through tunnels. Also yay Toni found her and they kissed!!  Also Toni and Veronica didn’t really have an exit

Plan except waiting for Kevin did they? 

 

Okay why would the mob people go and check on their car? Isn’t that a famous line from every mob movie ever? Also the stupid circle thing is back? Why are all of these adults leaving teenagers dictate their lives and schemes? 

 

Oh Mary.. trying to talk some sense into Archie right now is.. not going to work. 

 

Also are Alice and FP a thing now based on that scene?

 

Hiram has brought Archie a car. Well. Fred is not going to be able to swallow that. 

 

Cheryl and Toni! 

 

 

 

Yeah so I didn’t hate this episode but the mayor stuff and student council stuff is a little boring, and I don’t care about Hiram and the mob stuff because that feels like it should be a different show, and I love Bughead but when they bring Chic around I’m just like over it. I am however here for Cheryl being rescued from sisters of quiet mercy. That was good. This episode was ridiculous but I don’t think I even really care anymore. I’m now at the point where I think the show wants me to be: I’m now just a rabid shipper who eats up all the Bughead scenes even if they don’t make no sense. Also I’m laughing at how all the adults apparently don’t know how to adult because they’re letting the teens decide and control everything and it’s hilarious. I’m also sad I won’t be getting a new Riverdale next week because next week is my birthday!

[Advance35]

"God and Gucci willing." OMG I am SO using that.  For that line alone I think I'll always love Veronica Lodge.

But then, her Cat Suit with PEARLS?!?!?! LMAO.  I swear, no matter how questionable some of the writing choices, this moment right here, is why I can never quit Veronica Lodge.  LOL.  My god the girl is so epic.  And Toni had that look on her face, that everyone who deals with Veronica wears at some point, that "Is she for real?"  It was interesting seeing Veronica interact with a Serpent that wasn't Jughead.  

Toni (her outfit slayed too), Cheryl, Veronica and Kevin.  Maybe this should be a new foursome?

I haven't been big on Cheryl and Toni (I sort of feel it came out of nowhere) but their moment in front of the projector was REALLY good.  Maybe it's down to the actresses.

I get the feeling that Hiram still doesn't really like Archie.  Or maybe it's that he doesn't like Archie with Veronica?  When he saw Archie and Veronica about to kiss it looked like he had swallowed a worm. lol.  Maybe that's the way all Father's would look at there High School Daughters Boyfriend.  He finds Archie useful, but I still don't think he likes him.  I don't know why. Just the way MC plays it I guess.

[ottoDbusdriver]

2 hours ago, Advance35 said:

But then, her Cat Suit with PEARLS?!?!?! LMAO.  I swear, no matter how questionable some of the writing choices, this moment right here, is why I can never quit Veronica Lodge.  LOL.  My god the girl is so epic.  And Toni had that look on her face, that everyone who deals with Veronica wears at some point, that "Is she for real?"  It was interesting seeing Veronica interact with a Serpent that wasn't Jughead.  

Toni (her outfit slayed too), Cheryl, Veronica and Kevin.  Maybe this should be a new foursome?

Ronnie's outfit for the jailbreak from the Sisters of Quiet Mercy was equal parts ridiculous and awesome at the same time.
It was completely impractical for crawling through tunnels and running from nuns, but it looked fantastic -- I'm pretty sure Ronnie was wearing heels too.

Too bad the producers couldn't get the rights to a lowkey a capella cover of 'This Corrosion' during the escape from the nuns -- because every time I hear the name of that orphanage/sanitarium that's what comes to mind.

ETA: on re-watch, I didn't notice the zipper on the back of Ronnie's catsuit that ran the full length of her back.  Was that outfit something she just had in her closet, or something she picked just for cat-burgling ?

Edited March 29, 2018 by ottoDbusdriver

[UNOSEZ]

Good episode.. Nobody really bothered me... Except for Betty in throwing that ultimatum at her mom... I mean.. I'm m not coming home unless you kick your long lost son out.  That's just harsh.. And yes he's been creepy... But still... And then her mean-mugging and grinning when the serpents busted in the door..  I've never been a fan of a character who gets extra tuff when they have backup around.  Still smart on her part to set that up.. And she was right.. Blaming her for her moms serpent mistakes wasn't cool..  

 

He's boring and creepy.. But as it stands I feel sorry for chic.. Abandoned as a kid.. Lived a pretty horrible life it seems.. Got a glimpse of something better but his past showed up and his bio family couldn't deal and asked him to go. .  I understand why Alice had to ask... But damn.. Now if the show does something else with him and makes him a bad guy I'll stop feeling sorry for him

 

Run Josie run... I hope they don't sweep this plot under the table and I hope an apology for chuck is around the corner 

[WhosThatGirl]

I have no issue with bettys behavior this episode. Chic is scary and creepy and has been putting everyone in danger. Also I didn’t think she was blaming anything on Alice’s serpent mistakes, I think she was trying to get Alice to remember she was once a serpent.

[notcreative enough]

Can season 3 murder mystery please be who killed Hiram Lodge. I just can't stand this mob story any more. 

Is Chic really stupid or is totally messing with Alice and Betty. I can see the 3 of them pulling a con mostly because I don't want him to be Alice's son. 

Were FP and Alice going to hook up at the end. I can support this. I really want Fred, FP and Alice to work together for the mayor position.

Nana Rose for the save. Where is Cheryl living now she couldn't have gone back to her mother's house. 

Oh Mary you are speaking for all of us when you say you don't know who Archie is anymore. That kid needs the ass whooping and all ass whoopings. I don't care if it's from Reggie Fred or random mob guy that is tired of his macho attitude. 

[WhosThatGirl]

I’m not into Falice anymore. Just like I’m also not into Chic as possibly being FPS and Alice’s son. I know I’m in the boat.

Also while I’m excited for the musical episode, I hope there’s still Bughead moments.

[Guest]

Chic and Darla were totally running a con on Alice and Betty.  Although 10K sees like a paltry amount to keep quiet about a murder.  Surely, Alice could have gotten her hands on more than that.

Jughead busts Alice's door in for no apparent reason.  Simply turning the knob would have served the same purpose.

I'll echo the prior comments about Veronica's cat burglar costume being the episode's highlight.

The mobsters laughing in Archie's face was my favorite scene this season.

[WhosThatGirl]

Eh, any and all Bughead scenes are the best to me. At this point the show has made me that person that doesn’t care about logistics just that they’re together and being a couple. Thank the show for that, not me.

Im unsure if I like Falice. I don’t think I do anymore.

Still don’t like Veronica or Archie and I hate the mob stuff it makes it feel like a different show.

Also I really wish the serpents busting in the Coopers door had them attacking Chic. That’s what I was hoping it was when I read about this scene, what a missed opportunity if you ask me. Chic is the worst thing to happen to this show, I feel like everything else even if I’m not a fan I can get behind but.. this  character and the stories they wrote in.. not good.

And yeah like I said I know musical episode in three weeks, I still hope there’s some good bughead stuff in it.

[Cranberry]

So Archie sees no problem with involving a bunch of high school students in mob-related stuff now? Great.

I was expecting more Cheryl-related scenes in this episode, but what we got was good. What about all those other poor kids still stuck in conversion therapy there, though? Free Riverdale's gay youth!

[SeanC]

I hope Cheryl, Veronica and "Antoinette" went to rescue Nana Rose from that house afterward.

The last few episodes have made some modest progress on fitting Josie into the narrative more.  Also, the whole "stalking" plot point resurfaces at last, so it wasn't just forgotten.

[laffytaffy997]

Am I the only one who couldn’t stop laughing at Hariam’s guys because their names were “Lenny and Carl”

[UNOSEZ]

Just now, laffytaffy997 said:

Am I the only one who couldn’t stop laughing at Hariam’s guys because their names were “Lenny and Carl”

I couldn't.. And also at that stock Italian music playing while he was eating... And I kept thinking... None of these guys are Italian are  they

[SeanC]

2 minutes ago, laffytaffy997 said:

Am I the only one who couldn’t stop laughing at Hariam’s guys because their names were “Lenny and Carl”

No, definitely not.

[ottoDbusdriver]

One quick question -- if that 'secret' tunnel door was used for rendezvous in the woods by inmates at the orphanage/sanitarium, why was it padlocked shut from the outside ?   Because that seems contrary to what Kevin described.

Edited March 29, 2018 by ottoDbusdriver

[Snookums]

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. Also yes FP Chic should be there! Why are these people helping a person who has done nothing to help cover things up at all!

Who actively has been making things WORSE at every turn, actually! What about not assisting the blackmailing girlfriend of your drug dealer whom you murdered do you not get, Chic? The three of them had to have been running a scam because even somebody as messed up as Chic could not have stayed alive as long as he has being that box of hair stupid. "I was trying to help?" Please, you creepy half rotted Jack o'lantern, pull the other one. You don't run to the woman who looks like Drew Barrymore's white trash auntie and her apparent associate, your old motel manager, in any way that's helpful to anybody but you. 

And while we're on the subject: Betty, Jug, Alice and FP? Maybe less discussing the murder car dumping in a public place, especially when FP is clearly supposed to be working? Just a heads up. 

Moving on to the second most tiring plotline, Archie's endless need to have Angry Dwarf Hiram Lodge become his new daddy or whatever the hell. While I appreciate the show's remembering the traumatic Black Hood stuff (and which made a helluva lot more narrative sense than those werewolf masks last season--is there anybody in Riverdale who doesn't need a long term stay in a psychiatric hospital?) it still isn't making the case for why Archie is so damn determined to become Hiram's Good Boy, especially since it's eating up so much narrative time that he and Veronica barely even speak. I guess that's why Arch had no problem totally stabbing her in the back when he handed over his arm wrestling purchased Bulldog votes to Reggie for that bizarre little Black Circle arson and reckless endangerment and a whole lot of other things I imagine parolee Hiram Lodge would be friggin' less than thrilled to have occur in his vicinity were this taking place in any sane version of the universe. 

(Also, high schoolers, despite our current political climate, you CANNOT BUY AND SELL BLOCKS OF VOTES like they're boxes of band candy! Why in the name of the Sisters of Quiet Mercy did the rest of the Bulldogs agree to do any of this insane, dangerous, potentially future-ruining crap? The whole Red Circle Almost Porno thing was bad enough but at least that seemed like it could be sold to a bunch of hormonal dipshits as fun and rebellious. This? It's not like any of them care about Veronica, Hiram, the prison or Riverdale this much.)

The whole student council thing was supposed to be a mirror of the mayoral race, I guess, but there's really no room for it. Although if it gets Josie and Reggie actual screen time I'm for it. Meanwhile, Chuck, Val and Melody silently seethe in hoary netherworld. Even MIdge showed up again! Even MOOSE! What the hell does it take to get these three to reappear?

And the rescue of Cheryl! The floridness of the storyline almost made up for the rushed execution and the pulling of punches--it was a helluva lot of fun, even though the whole "conversion" thing was presented as so laughably outdated and silly as to undercut the seriousness of what was supposed to be happening. The "movie nights" were a parody of both the idea of the squeaky clean original Archie comics and the ridiculous idea that two guys, by not agreeing to hang out for one afternoon having chocolate phosphates, will immediately strip naked and frolic phallicly in the river, while Cheryl's forced labor was upsetting but hardly as hardcore as these actual programs can be. I mean, I get they don't want to be a Dateline expose but maybe not go down that path at all if you're going to make it seem harmless and quirky instead of life-destroying. There's no reason she couldn't have been sent there for plain and simple acting out (hell, she burned down her damn house!) 

Although the kiss between her and Toni was wonderful, and Veronica's catsuit n' pearl combo proves that if you can't rescue your frenemy from the clutches of evil nuns stylishly, you shouldn't do it at all. Although I would like to know A) where Cheryl is staying/whose clothes she's borrowing. B) if Penelope knows about her breakout, and C) why she's keen to burn down the school, except to relive her greatest hits? Why is she blaming Riverdale High besides the fact that she is indeed Looney Toons? 

(Kevin's face in the background when she made that announcement was fabulous, however.)

Man, April 18th? How long the days will seem.

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Also I’m laughing at how all the adults apparently don’t know how to adult because they’re letting the teens decide and control everything and it’s hilarious. 

Most especially the employees of the bank, who handed over ten grand to Alice's minor daughter without a blink, apparently! Even if she brought a promissory note any teller who didn't want to be fired would not be accessing that account for a third party who is a minor, without the permission of BOTH the signatories on the account~I couldn't do that with MY parent's accounts and I'm forty six years old!

[WhosThatGirl]

I’m not sure if we’re supposed to take Cheryl’s “this school is going to burn” as anything other than her knowing the musical? And also omg you guys a shocking end.. is Cheryl going to burn the school down? I really don’t think she has plans to burn down the school, I think they were just trying to be shocking and funny and ha ha ha. Which.. dumb.

Also as a Bughead shipper, I can’t help but think that it was adorable that Betty went to the trailer and felt safe and when she was forced back home and the three creepsters wanted more money (because let’s be real Chic is in on that, he sucks!!! Again I don’t understand why people think Betty is being rude with her behavior, look what’s been going on in that house since he got there)she called Jughead to feel safe again. That was cute.

Also I knew Betty wasn’t going to get a serpent tattoo when I saw the clip earlier this week. I feel like she only did it to push Alice’s buttons. I feel like her getting something so permanent like that would close the door on a barchie thing to happen in future seasons and I don’t see the show doing that. They still want to bait the Barchie shippers as much as they can. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by WhosThatGirl

[RHJunkie]

Archie is never home, up Hiram's ass and more or less told his father that he's too old school and he sides with Hiram Lodge because he can envision a better future but then complains about how estranged he is from his dad. Then he misses an important moment for his father in order to tend to Hiram's mob issues, which is greatly concerning to me that this idiot decided to involve fellow high school kids in a tactic designed to temporarily scare off some mobsters. He then goes on to accept a car as a gift from another man which will surely be a sore sport for his father. All of his actions lends to this notion of aspiring to be like Hiram Lodge, because it seems like there's something wrong with being an honest, hard working and honourable man like his father Fred. God forbid an honest living doesn't give you money and power the easy way. There's not a single damn thing I like about Archie Andrews anymore. Not a single one. In all this hoopla, at least Veronica seems to have some sort of conscious. She defied orders to help a friend in need. Archie turns his back on his dad in favour of trying to hatch and execute a plan that'll make Hiram pat him on the head and say 'good boy'. 

I hope Chic moving out of the house is not the end of the storyline. They've dragged it on for too long for them not to bring some closer to things in the last remaining episodes of the season. 

I have thing for Jughead's dad and I'm not ashamed to admit. And speaking of Jughead, i really liked his scene with Fred, helping him on his speech. Of course he's invested in seeing Fred win over Hermione but I think Jughead genuinely admires Fred and appreciates the kind of person Fred is. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by RHJunkie

[Dee]

Everyone on this show is trash. Except Josie.

[WhosThatGirl]

The only closure I want for Chic is for him to be killed off at this point, so that’s what I’m hoping for. Aside from that his character was a waste of time and space we could have spent on better stories. 

[Cranberry]

2 hours ago, Snookums said:

Although I would like to know A) where Cheryl is staying/whose clothes she's borrowing.

Toni's, it seems!

[UNOSEZ]

My problem with the chic character is.. I don't know who he is.. If he's some kind of con man looking to rob the coopers that's one thing.. Tho a plan this convoluted seems off... I thought for sure they woulda told us one way or another if he was in on it but no... And if he isn't in on it then at least in-universe he's a sympathetic character who the show has done a disservice to... Cuz most of fandom hates him for leading us on a wild goose chase story wise... 

I think the whole story so far has been pointless and wish it had gone in a diff direction.. That can still change as the season isn't over.. But if this is where it ends or plateaus for a while..  Smh

That said if he wasn't trying to play them and he's been basically on the up and up... Damn creepy boy got screwed... He might've been better off if Betty hadn't ( as she usually does.. Barge into his life)  left behind by parents spent some time with the good sisters of quiet mercy ( we see the wonders they did for penny and Cheryl in shorter stays)  and I think some foster homes of varying shittiness ages out of the system finds out his family is this ( on the surface at least)  perfect thing. With stability and safety.. But he stays away... He's selling his body  dealing with real life dirtbags and who knows what else.... Then his sister and mom show up ( you got any idea how many foster or adopted kids dream of that)  and take him into that safe home... From jump Hal who I dunno if he knew or not was his dad straight up hated him.. Made him most unwelcome.. He got really attached to his mom the way lots of love starved ppl do (kinda obsessing over it.. But I guess that's something Alice passed down to her kids) maybe even started to bond with his sister... I mean he did tell her about the creepy ass staring at her while she slept... Then his old life showed up... And its been downhill from there for him.. His sister turned on him and became hostile... Started spying on him.. Going thru his things... His other sister shows up... Treats him like a threat.. Wants him gone then leaves...  Now his safe place is threatened so he threatens Betty who comes right back at him.. Gets Kevin to catfish him steals his DNA to accuse him of lying.. Apparently drops the bomb that Hal isn't his dad... Then more threats.. Physical this time.. Then she leaves putting the mother in a choose a kid situation... Now him being there is hurting the only person who's actually been on his side... More of the past shows up... He tries to help( I for sure thought this is a con.. But at least for now.. Nope) does a piss poor job and puts his mother in danger and she asks him to leave. .. 

Again if he turns out to be a con artist or somn I'll change my tune( and right now that makes the most sense)  if not.. If he's just a messed up kid.. Then he lived thru a foster kids nightmare ( real family found me... Got to know me.. Decided I wasn't good enough..  Got rid if me again)  yes there is some more nuance and gray areas.. But at its core that's what's happened so far.  

 

So screw you show... For making me feel bad for this creepy plot wasting time suck if a character 

[Chicago Redshirt]

8 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

One quick question -- if that 'secret' tunnel door was used for rendezvous in the woods by inmates at the orphanage/sanitarium, why was it padlocked shut from the outside ?   Because that seems contrary to what Kevin described.

The Sisters found out about it and tried to stop their charges from going on their LGBTQ frolics. Unfortunately for the Sisters, Veronica and Co. came equipped with cat suit, pearls AND a crowbar. 

[Advance35]

Does anyone think breaking up the core four might be something worth keeping?  I'm shocked that I DON'T miss that aspect of the show.  Mary Andrews waxing poetic about Archie, Jughead and Betty being the Three Musketeers certainly shows where the writers are going but I think it might be worth KEEPING Veronica on the outs with them.

I kind of like her as a town pariah who pushes through loneliness and peer hate on pure hubris.  She loves her family (as she should) and will help them with their schemes but at the same time her joining Toni to help free Cheryl shows she is no monster.  She's just a different kind of animal then Archie (when he's himself),. Jughead and Betty.

I actually like Archie and Veronica but I wouldn't be opposed to her spending more time with characters that don't have such an aversion to the name Lodge.  It's clear Mary does NOT like her son being involved with Hiram and Hermione's daughter.

Toni is very much a serpent but didn't seem to have a problem working with Veronica even after all that's come out.  Chuck Clayton would make a wonderful Sebastian to Veronica's Kathryn.  Reggie is a really good foil for her.  She and Cheryl can be sugar or vinegar, depending on the day.  And she should be BFF's with Kevin and Nancy Bloom.

This show has a wonderful stable of characters.  Again, I like Archie and Veronica but if the show and the characters feel he needs to be saved from the EVIL Lodges and their Siren of a daughter, let Veronica have her own Injustice League to play with.

[ottoDbusdriver]

6 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

The Sisters found out about it and tried to stop their charges from going on their LGBTQ frolics. Unfortunately for the Sisters, Veronica and Co. came equipped with cat suit, pearls AND a crowbar. 

The way Kevin described the 'secret gay hookup tunnel' (TM Ronnie) was with the present tense which would make one think it was in active use, and probably not locked.  So, yeah, good thinking by Toni Topaz.

[WhosThatGirl]

Eh. I have no sympathy for Chic. Let’s say he wasn’t playing the Coopers last night, he’s been creepy in that house since Betty brought him thehre. We as viewers saw him walk into her bedroom and stare at her, then he decides to Bell her is to show her how to webcam, he killed someone and doesn’t help to cover it up, and has used it to hold over their heads. Yeah. Sorry. Even if he isn’t playing the Coopers he’s creepy enough to wateent no sympathy.

[Chicago Redshirt]

48 minutes ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

The way Kevin described the 'secret gay hookup tunnel' (TM Ronnie) was with the present tense which would make one think it was in active use, and probably not locked.  So, yeah, good thinking by Toni Topaz.

The lock could have been a relatively recent development that Kevin was unaware of.

[sadie]

Please make Chic go away. Once again he contacts some low life (Darla this time) and then looks mopey and says “I’m sorry” when they make trouble for the Coopers. WTF? He’s useless as a character, all he seems to do is sit around looking sad while causing trouble and looking sad while everyone around him is running at a fever pace and yep there he is just sitting there looking sad. Either make him evil and explain it, or give him some purpose but he is literally dragging this show down. Make it stop! 

[Mabinogia]

1 hour ago, sadie said:

Please make Chic go away. Once again he contacts some low life (Darla this time) and then looks mopey and says “I’m sorry” when they make trouble for the Coopers

I don't get how he could have thought that was helpful. That's what is making me start to feel he really is doing some long con with those two. I mean, Darla (was that her name) got her car back, a car she just assumed the lowlife dead guy had stolen from her. She knows he's a low life so she probably wouldn't care all that much where he ended up. Chic knows these people at least marginally, so he'd know she probably isn't the type to go to the police, lest they dig to deeply into her affairs. So all he really did in contacting her was make her suspicious of the Coopers.

The only good thing about it is, Alice finally snapped out of her guilt over giving him up enough to see she needs to protect herself and Betty and the rest of her family.

I pretty much loved everything about Cheryl's storyline. How tragic it was, how sad she was, how gothic it was, I mean, that tiny, ancient TV in that vast, expensive mansion, and the old hand held receiver phone. I love the Blossoms. Nana was epic. I hope NotCliff doesn't hurt her. And the sexiest rescue in history. Seriously, Veronica's outfit killed me. The point of wearing black when you break into places it to blend into the darkness. Having your big white chest exposed isn't going to make you vanish in the darkness sweetie. And as redicoulsly, that would never really work, as it was, I loved the kiss, the running through water filled tunnels with a triangle of angry nuns slow walking behind them like serial killers in a horror film. God, that is the Riverdale I LOVE.

I hated everything to do with Archie and the elder Lodges. The rest of the ep, though, was great.

[Ruby Red]

2B has improved compared to 2A, but I think the problem is with this show is that it has a lot of plots that have a lot of potential, there is a lot they could do with these characters, but what is lacking is that the writers rush through everything and there is no real resolution. There is not even character driven martial where they allow the characters to breathe and process their emotions, and what has been happening to them. Cheryl, Betty and Archie all have gone through trauma and with other mental health issues they need to talk to professionals, allow them to process their emotions and talk to an adult about it. Archie has been having symptoms of PTSD, but will they do anything about it? And let's not forget Josie and what Cheryl has done to her... But hey, let's just brush that aside? When it comes to morality on this show, guess we can forget it because none of these flawed characters respond like human beings would.

Anyway, at least there is fanfiction for a lot of depth that has been missing. And alternate universe fics!

I'm just going to keep it short this time, I'm tired, I am going to do it in groups because there was not much for individual storylines this episodes.

Jughead & Betty: Always love their investigative duo dynamic even if they don't always make the best choices.  They do need more interesting storylines that is not relationship drama, but I want more romantic scenes and also more intense situations where they can end up supporting each other and communicate etc. I need more than just little cute scenes! I did love how overdramatic Jughead was with kicking the door in, lol and yay for bringing in the other Serpents as well! Boo for Sweet Pea though, what the hell is your problem, dude? I don't know why Betty should feel any loyalty towards the Serpents, it makes sense that she was helping her boyfriend's friends. I'm glad she did not consider getting a Serpent tattoo to impress Jughead, it was about impressing her his friends because they decided to be jerks for no reason, Betty has been with Jughead longer than he has been a Serpent. Good for him for defending her and also Betty defending herself! But please show, don't actually make her a Serpent, let her be kidding with that idea. She doesn't need to change herself for Jughead, and the writers need to stop isolating her from other characters, let her have friends! Let everyone have friends!

Cheryl & Toni: They are really cute, but they also have made Cheryl turn a 180 degrees within like two episodes and there has been no proper character redemption arc. We should forget that also used to be a bully? We should forget that she was trashing the Serpents only 7 episodes ago? Also, the subject of gay conversion is a serious issue, you cannot just ignore this and how it would emotionally affect her. I still do enjoy their chemistry! I really wish that kiss did not suffer from that dark light although it was a beautiful shot, but maybe other kisses will be have better light!

Veronica & Archie: Veronica deserves better. Archie... Okay so, he and Jughead really have not been secretly plotting together? He is not playing double agent? Good for Mary to call him out on how he has changed, means redemption arc is coming, right? The writing of his character has been so dull anyway.

FP & Alice: Hey Alice, how about you pay attention and ask your daughter why she was not comfortable staying in her own home and she felt like she wanted to move in with her boyfriend because she felt the most safe with him. The idea of FP and Alice dating is a bit weird to me, but it wouldn't ruin Bughead for me... But I prefer it if they didn't? Their time has passed. Let their children be happy and do something selfless for them for once. Please writers, don't recycle the whole Dan/Serena/Rufus/Lily storyline from Gossip Girl.

I have no idea what exactly Chic's angle is, he is just weird.

I find it difficult to turn my critical brain off for this show, mostly it must be because of all the fanfic I have been reading and I am just thinking about all the potential this show has in canon and so many things they could do! All that potential these characters and storylines have if they only would flesh things out more.

Edited March 29, 2018 by Ruby Red

[WhosThatGirl]

Yeah it is a little sad when I have also seen better fanfic written about this season than the show has done at all.

[Snookums]

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How tragic it was, how sad she was, how gothic it was, I mean, that tiny, ancient TV in that vast, expensive mansion, and the old hand held receiver phone.

 Featuring Bob Ross and his Happy Trees!

I loved how they cut directly from the phone of 1910 to Toni asking what decade this was. Good question, girl.

I hope Nana summons her dark Gypsy powers to crush Penelope and Evil-er Cornelius. 

[ottoDbusdriver]

I'm so hoping that Chic has left for good, but you know they (the writers) are going to bring him back for some stupid reason to ruin something else.

If I was Alice I would be asking for some sort of proof that Chic owed Darla $10K, because I'm pretty sure Chic and Darla are probably going to split the money.

 

[Snookums]

They have to split it with the motel manager guy as well! That's like, three thousand and change each. Not a bad amount of walking around money but hardly worth this level of shenanigans. 

[AdorkableSars]

17 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Also I love and have shipped Cheryl and Toni for a while now but yeah now they seem to be going in lighting speed (kind of like how people think Bughead went in season one I guess) it just feels like there was no real build up to them and now Toni is becoming her hero and it’s kind of like “are they even a couple yet? Have they even talked about it” people complained about Bugheads lighting speed but hell.. they at least had friendship history. They took forever to even Cheryl and Toni interact and then almost kiss and now Toni is trying to save her from the mental ward place. Like whoa. Feels a little fast. It’s like the writers realized they wasted so long in getting them together and now they’re at episode 17 and we should get this thing going. It’s fine I’m all for it, I just find it funny that Toni is already all in to battle Penelope for Cheryl. 

 

I’m also sad I won’t be getting a new Riverdale next week because next week is my birthday!

 

17 hours ago, Advance35 said:

Toni (her outfit slayed too), Cheryl, Veronica and Kevin.  Maybe this should be a new foursome?

Yeah I'm a fan of Cheryl and Toni, but this is like beyond lightning speed. I would've liked to see some build up to their relationship. But overall, I'm just happy that Cheryl has somebody in her corner who actually cares about her. And their kiss scene was pretty great. I guess now that they're together, hopefully now we can them build a real loving relationship, beyond their spark and attraction to each other.  

I loved the scenes with Kevin, Veronica and Toni going to save Cheryl! So damn epic! This should be a foursome we see more of on this show. Cheryl needs real true friends, and her and Veronica have had moments where it seems that they were building a good friendship. And there have been some Cheryl/Kevin moments too that I've liked! I would so welcome more screentime for Kevin. Veronica can be a part of all the Core Fours! 

Happy early Birthday @WhosThatGirl!

16 hours ago, notcreative enough said:

Can season 3 murder mystery please be who killed Hiram Lodge. I just can't stand this mob story any more. 

SERIOUSLY. I adore Mark Consuelos, but Hiram Lodge is actually the worst and this storyline is annoying as hell. It is making me absolutely loathe Archie and sometimes Veronica and I don't like it. And I just don't see how they are going to make me like his character ever. And Archie is getting pretty irredeemable at this point too. 

16 hours ago, RogerDodger said:

Jughead busts Alice's door in for no apparent reason.  Simply turning the knob would have served the same purpose.

True, but it wouldn't have been nearly as badass and sexy. (Feel weird calling a high schooler sexy. Then I remember we also had sexy shirtless Reggie in this episode. Then I remember that Cole and Charles are 25+, and I feel better about myself. Yay for me.)

16 hours ago, SeanC said:

I hope Cheryl, Veronica and "Antoinette" went to rescue Nana Rose from that house afterward.

THIS! Poor Nana Rose. I hope someone saved her. Also, shoutout to her for being a badass and making that call to Toni. AND surviving a house fire and a fall down the stairs. Nana Rose is my hero. 

15 hours ago, laffytaffy997 said:

Am I the only one who couldn’t stop laughing at Hariam’s guys because their names were “Lenny and Carl”

No you were not! I was also really hoping that a bartender named Moe would the one making their drinks. Maybe Flaming Moes would make them and their dumbass mob storyline go away? 

13 hours ago, Sonoma said:

The scene I found most touching was the one between Fred and Jughead in the kitchen going over Fred's speech. Jughead helping Fred with his speech, because his actual son is too busy kissing Hiram's ass and agreeing to chauffeur his spoiled daughter around. (Although yas, her Sisters of Quiet Mercy prison break outfit was telenovela fabulous!) When Mary pointed out to Archie how he used to be tight with Jughead and Betty, it actually made me feel bad for Veronica because it made me realize how screwed up the Lodges have made everything for Archie and his relationships with his father and best friends. Which Veronica has contributed to, although not with bad intentions.

 

12 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

I have thing for Jughead's dad and I'm not ashamed to admit. And speaking of Jughead, i really liked his scene with Fred, helping him on his speech. Of course he's invested in seeing Fred win over Hermione but I think Jughead genuinely admires Fred and appreciates the kind of person Fred is. 

LOVED the scene between Jughead and Fred, and that Jughead was helping Fred write his announcement. It's pretty clear that Jughead respects the hell out of Fred and considers him a father figure. And even though FP has been stepping up his dad game lately, Jughead needs someone like Fred to look up to...that being said, Fred is Archie's actual dad, and Archie is turning out to be a real dumbass moronic tool. Also, is Mary really leaving already? NOOO. Stay!! I love the way you tell Archie how much he sucks! Someone needs to. Good Lord.

Other thoughts:

• Dark Circle...is circle the only shape that Archie knows? 
• I probably wasn't supposed to burst into hysterical laughter at the dramatic closeups of Alice, Chic, FP, Jughead and Betty's face as they were watching the news story about the discovered car, right? Well too bad. I laughed. HARD. That shit was hilarious. 
• I cannot say this enough. Archie is truly insufferable. I felt so bad for Fred when Archie didn't show up for the mayoral announcement. I kind of understand why Archie is acting this way, but the writing is not strong enough to justify it. So at this point, I just can't stand Archie. And it makes me sad. 
• Why were the parents at a high school debate for student council? However, it did give us the pleasure of seeing Fred SERVE Hiram (I legit laughed out loud at Fred talking about Hiram going to prison.)
• I still hate so much that Betty and Alice (since she's the dummy who dragged Betty into it) dragged Jughead and FP into the stupid murder coverup. Ugh. 

[WhosThatGirl]

16 minutes ago, AdorkableSars said:

 

Yeah I'm a fan of Cheryl and Toni, but this is like beyond lightning speed. I would've liked to see some build up to their relationship. But overall, I'm just happy that Cheryl has somebody in her corner who actually cares about her. And their kiss scene was pretty great. I guess now that they're together, hopefully now we can them build a real loving relationship, beyond their spark and attraction to each other.  

I loved the scenes with Kevin, Veronica and Toni going to save Cheryl! So damn epic! This should be a foursome we see more of on this show. Cheryl needs real true friends, and her and Veronica have had moments where it seems that they were building a good friendship. And there have been some Cheryl/Kevin moments too that I've liked! I would so welcome more screentime for Kevin. Veronica can be a part of all the Core Fours! 

Happy early Birthday @WhosThatGirl!

SERIOUSLY. I adore Mark Consuelos, but Hiram Lodge is actually the worst and this storyline is annoying as hell. It is making me absolutely loathe Archie and sometimes Veronica and I don't like it. And I just don't see how they are going to make me like his character ever. And Archie is getting pretty irredeemable at this point too. 

True, but it wouldn't have been nearly as badass and sexy. (Feel weird calling a high schooler sexy. Then I remember we also had sexy shirtless Reggie in this episode. Then I remember that Cole and Charles are 25+, and I feel better about myself. Yay for me.)

THIS! Poor Nana Rose. I hope someone saved her. Also, shoutout to her for being a badass and making that call to Toni. AND surviving a house fire and a fall down the stairs. Nana Rose is my hero. 

No you were not! I was also really hoping that a bartender named Moe would the one making their drinks. Maybe Flaming Moes would make them and their dumbass mob storyline go away? 

 

LOVED the scene between Jughead and Fred, and that Jughead was helping Fred write his announcement. It's pretty clear that Jughead respects the hell out of Fred and considers him a father figure. And even though FP has been stepping up his dad game lately, Jughead needs someone like Fred to look up to...that being said, Fred is Archie's actual dad, and Archie is turning out to be a real dumbass moronic tool. Also, is Mary really leaving already? NOOO. Stay!! I love the way you tell Archie how much he sucks! Someone needs to. Good Lord.

Other thoughts:

• Dark Circle...is circle the only shape that Archie knows? 
• I probably wasn't supposed to burst into hysterical laughter at the dramatic closeups of Alice, Chic, FP, Jughead and Betty's face as they were watching the news story about the discovered car, right? Well too bad. I laughed. HARD. That shit was hilarious. 
• I cannot say this enough. Archie is truly insufferable. I felt so bad for Fred when Archie didn't show up for the mayoral announcement. I kind of understand why Archie is acting this way, but the writing is not strong enough to justify it. So at this point, I just can't stand Archie. And it makes me sad. 
• Why were the parents at a high school debate for student council? However, it did give us the pleasure of seeing Fred SERVE Hiram (I legit laughed out loud at Fred talking about Hiram going to prison.)
• I still hate so much that Betty and Alice (since she's the dummy who dragged Betty into it) dragged Jughead and FP into the stupid murder coverup. Ugh. 

I love everything about this post because I agree with most of it(also thanks for the early birthday wish!)

But yeah.. I think I kind of understand what they’re trying to do with Archie here, he wants control because of Fred being shot and Hiram is the person who can control and protect things but for some reason I can’t find it in myself to see it? I don’t know if it’s the writing or the way KJ is playing Archie but I can’t.. get it? 

And then there’s Veronica. I know it’s her family but that character gets nothing from me. I find nothing to connect with here. Yes her clothes rule and all that but I have no substance or care about her in general. It’s when she’s around others I like her more but since she’s been in her scenes with Archie or her parents, it does nothing for me. 

Also yeah.. they’re totally going to bring Chic back and hopefully it’s to kill him or something, otherwise, nope not here for it. It took Betty way too long to realize he was a creepy creepster and took Alice even longer to kick him out! 

And again.. Betty was never going to get a serpent tattoo or become one really. As I’ve said many times the show still wants to keep the door open for Barchie in future seasons. If Betty got a tattoo or really became a serpent that would shut the door on that (and even though I dislike the gang and all that, a small part of me kindof wishes she had, I wish the writers wouldn’t keep this triangle going and would make a move one way or the other, I know they’re teens but whatever, I hate triangles).

[tennisgurl]

I truly have no idea why Chic is here, except that I still think he is seriously bad news. It wouldn't surprise me if he was running a long con on the Coopers, and was totally in on it with the two scumbag criminals. Or else, the kid is seriously stupid. His watery puppy eyes at Alice that she keeps falling for, even when he does shit that is ridiculously stupid or suspicious (or both) are obviously putting their whole family in danger. I just do not care about this story. 

Speaking of, I want this mob story to end ASAP. Its boring, and I hate how its isolating Archie, to the point of which I have no idea what show he is even on. Like, its almost the opposite of his story last season, where his music stuff was too normal and isolated to match the crazy of the rest of the show, while now his stuff is too dark and also isolated from the rest of the weirdness. I love the Lodges, but we are spending WAY too much time on them. 

I do love Reggie though, and I would totally watch an episode of just him and Josie getting into an adventure. Speaking of, I dont blame Josie for freaking out when she realized that Cheryl was her stalker. Thats all kinds of messed up. Really, Cheryl DOES need tons of therapy. Not gay conversion therapy obviously, but more to deal with her many other serious problems, not the least of which is her burning her house down, and stalking one of her best friends. Her mom and uncle should be in jail. Forever. For the greater good of all of humanity. Let Nana Rose have custody of Cheryl, and send her to an actual therapist to deal with her many problems. 

I do actually like Toni and Cheryl, and I thought they worked really well this week. Her saving Cheryl from the 1950s was adorable, and I can see why they like each other, even if it is moving a bit quickly. The actresses have great chemistry, and compared to the endless drama with the other couples, they almost seem normal. 

Veronica and her super sleek cat suit rescue outfit is vintage Riverdale. Crazy and ridiculous and making no sense, but delightfully Extra in the best possible way.

[Ruby Red]

Anyway, did anyone realize how FP said that Betty slept in his bed while he and Jughead slept on the couch, implying that the bed is FP's and Jughead sleeps on the couch when he is home and not in jail? Wow. Parent of the year.

Edited March 29, 2018 by Ruby Red

[WhosThatGirl]

15 minutes ago, Ruby Red said:

Anyway, did anyone realize how FP said that Betty slept in his bed while he and Jughead slept on the couch, implying that the bed is FP's and Jughead sleeps on the couch when he is home and not in jail? Wow. Parent of the year.

Yeah that was something. I always assumed there were two bedrooms in the trailer. But yeah I think that line was supposed to make us like FP more, eh it did the opposite actually.

Also I’m really beginning to hate Falice. Everyone complaining that bughead is a pandering to fan ship. Or even Cheryl and Toni. No. Falice is and that’s why I don’t like them at all anymore.

[Mabinogia]

1 hour ago, Ruby Red said:

Anyway, did anyone realize how FP said that Betty slept in his bed while he and Jughead slept on the couch, implying that the bed is FP's and Jughead sleeps on the couch when he is home and not in jail? Wow. Parent of the year.

And yet he's not even close to the worst parent in Riverdale. hahahahaha That trophy belongs to Penelope Blossom, hands down, no contest. Will always be hers until the end of time, or until she manages to murder her only remaining child, the other of which was killed by the other worst parent in Riverdale. 

[WhosThatGirl]

Oh I’m all Team Fred and Team Mary. They are the only decent ones on this show. Also wish Mary had slapped Archie.. is MR really expensive to keep on  or is it that the show films in Vancouver and she can’t be there full time? Because she’s awesome. I wasn’t really for her in season one but she was on point the last a couple episodes. 

Also im Team Betty all the time. I don’t like her actions sometimes but it’s interesting to some how she can never win. Veronica gets forgiven for a lot worse if you ask me. Same with Jughead. I know he’s done some things this season but he never can win either.

Edited March 30, 2018 by WhosThatGirl

[Cranberry]

I actually love everyone but Archie. He's such a dumbass that I just can't with him. I promise I don't take this show at all seriously, but what he's doing -- protecting a mobster who he knows has had people murdered, recruiting high school students to go up against the mob, turning his back on the father he loved more than anything half a season ago -- makes no sense to me. I get that the Black Hood stuff shook him and I understood his vigilante turn even though it was stupid (it was believable teenage boy behavior), but this is too much.

[WhosThatGirl]

8 minutes ago, Cranberry said:

I actually love everyone but Archie. He's such a dumbass that I just can't with him. I promise I don't take this show at all seriously, but what he's doing -- protecting a mobster who he knows has had people murdered, recruiting high school students to go up against the mob, turning his back on the father he loved more than anything half a season ago -- makes no sense to me. I get that the Black Hood stuff shook him and I understood his vigilante turn even though it was stupid (it was believable teenage boy behavior), but this is too much.

Yeah and I we are supposed to understand why he is doing what he’s doing, but I don’t. As I said it’s either the writing or the way Archie is being played but KJ. 

Im still waiting for a bait and switch and for the show to say Archie was doing a long con. All by himself. And I’ll have to try and swallow that because I don’t see Archie being able to long con anyone without help. Either this has to be the answer or something happens that does affect his dad or Jughead because of Hiram and/or the monsters and someone he does care about becomes collateral damage and it forces him to realize he can’t continue with Hiram. Maybe even something with Veronica. 

[SourK]

I realize that there's only so much time in the episode, but I was a little taken a-back that solving Cheryl's problems was as simple as breaking her out of the torture hospital. There should be a lot more fall-out from that. Like, her crazy mother could just come snatch her again at any time, now, and would legally be able to unless she gets a lawyer and goes to the police. It's very, very unsafe for her to just go back to school.

Also, I guess nobody cares about the other kids in the torture hospital?

On 3/28/2018 at 10:53 PM, Cranberry said:

So Archie sees no problem with involving a bunch of high school students in mob-related stuff now? Great.

Archie also sees no problem with calling it "The Dark Circle," like he totally failed to learn a lesson from the time he said "The Red Circle" on YouTube for everyone to see and LOL at him.

23 hours ago, Snookums said:

Most especially the employees of the bank, who handed over ten grand to Alice's minor daughter without a blink, apparently! Even if she brought a promissory note any teller who didn't want to be fired would not be accessing that account for a third party who is a minor, without the permission of BOTH the signatories on the account~I couldn't do that with MY parent's accounts and I'm forty six years old!

There was a weird moment before Betty left the house, where Alice said, "It's in our joint account, so you shouldn't have a problem." The only way it being a joint account would help them is if it's a joint account that Alice shares with Betty, which is hella weird if that's a thing. If it's a joint account with Hal, then I completely agree, there's no way they're letting a third person walk in and withdraw that much cash.

8 hours ago, AdorkableSars said:

• Why were the parents at a high school debate for student council? However, it did give us the pleasure of seeing Fred SERVE Hiram (I legit laughed out loud at Fred talking about Hiram going to prison.)

Just like I don't understand why anyone outside this high school cares what's in the school paper, I can't fathom why they care who's class president. I don't have any spoilers, but, just based on the idea of setting up characters for next season, I'm assuming Reggie and Josie will win this election and Fred will be the Mayor.

7 hours ago, Ruby Red said:

Anyway, did anyone realize how FP said that Betty slept in his bed while he and Jughead slept on the couch, implying that the bed is FP's and Jughead sleeps on the couch when he is home and not in jail? Wow. Parent of the year.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Although, to be fair, not everybody can afford to have multiple bedrooms and beds, so this is an arrangement that happens. I'm assuming it's a fold-out couch.

[Snookums]

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Although, to be fair, not everybody can afford to have multiple bedrooms and beds, so this is an arrangement that happens. I'm assuming it's a fold-out couch.

This right here makes me wonder how tight the quarters were when Jug's mom and Jellybean were still living there!

[thuganomics85]

Well, of course, Veronica decides to wear a sexy catsuit to the nunnery prison break!  Got to look your best when sneaking into a evil nunnery, gay conversion asylum!  Not that I'm complaining, because Camila Mendes sure was rocking that look.  The whole thing was spectacularly crazy!  Sewers, evil nuns, Cheryl and Toni romantically making out in front of a bunch of zoned out patients, evil nuns walking slowly like every monster in a serial killer movie ever made, and, again, Veronica in a catsuit.  What's not to love?!

Awesome, not only is Reggie still running for student council, but Josie is his running mate!  I really hope this is all a set-up for Archie/Veronica and Jughead/Betty to tear each other apart so badly, that Reggie/Josie somehow sneaks in and wins it all.  Then it is Jingle Jangle and cover songs all day, every day!  Team Rosie!

At this point, everything involving the Lodges just feel like someone in the writer rooms was having a mafia movie marathon, and decided that the only thing that would have improved those films would be if it featured some silly, dumb high school jock, running around halfcocked and stirring shit up.  I mean, not only is Archie so down with Team Hiram now that he's willing to abandon poor Fred, but he even got a bunch of high schoolers involved with actual mobster stuff.  Brilliant, buddy.  Also, what's the over/under for that spanking new car of his getting wrecked or destroyed?  I'm guessing the penultimate episode for this season.

While I'm glad Cheryl escaped, I hope someone checks in on Nana Rose.  I don't want to know what Penelope will do once she finds out.

Alice finally sees the damn light and kicks Chic out.  He's taking it well, which probably means he is up to something, and this is far from over.

Only thing more delightfully campy then Cheryl's line about burning down the school was Kevin/Casey Cott's over-the-top reaction behind her.  Hey, more power to him!  He knows what type of show this is!

All in all, not sure I would say this is the best episode this season, but this was certainly one of the most entertaining ones.  I don't expect much, so any episode featuring Sexy Catsuit Veronica, Tori romantically saving Cheryl from evil nuns, and Reggie running on a platform of "chill", is a winner in my book! 

[Dee]

4 minutes ago, thuganomics85 said:

Reggie running on a platform of "chill", is a winner in my book! 

He even made Alice laugh!

[ozzy]

jUST ONCE. ONCE! I would like to knock on a door and have FP open it with THAT,Look On His Face, right before he takes the gm out of his mouth.

[Mabinogia]

19 hours ago, ozzy said:

jUST ONCE. ONCE! I would like to knock on a door and have FP open it with THAT,Look On His Face, right before he takes the gm out of his mouth

The reason I will forever ship Falice is because of scene's like that. Just a knock on a door, a look and a gum toss and it was the hottest thing I have seen since, well, since their last scene together, where she was leaned up against the wall and he was talking with one hand on said wall of the school like they were a high school couple talking about going to the malt shop after school. For me, those two just make the simplest moments full of energy. It's no wonder their kids hit it off. lol