BB In The Media: Outside the Fishbowl

[Lady Calypso]

I do like the bathroom; it may be my favourite part of the house. The HOH bedroom isn't as bad as I first thought it was, but the colouring is very harsh. I'd say that the safety deposit boxes will eventually be a twist but, much like the phone last season, it probably won't be of much use at the beginning.

As for the bedrooms, first off, how is golf tempting? Second of all, just why? If I was a houseguest, I'd rather choose neither and I'd actually be vying for HOH. 

Honestly, the whole idea is good, but the execution is all over the place. 

[Callaphera]

12 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I do like the bathroom; it may be my favourite part of the house. The HOH bedroom isn't as bad as I first thought it was, but the colouring is very harsh. I'd say that the safety deposit boxes will eventually be a twist but, much like the phone last season, it probably won't be of much use at the beginning.

You need two keys to open a safety deposit box. Provided that the keys end up on opposite alliances...

Eh, we know that's never going to happen. Either the majority alliance that everyone hates will get both keys or the minority alliance will, but they'll use whatever "power" comes out of it in the worst way possible. Just like always.

[Maverick]

52 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

The fake green apples on the lounge wall? My sympathy to the poor bastard intern that had to super glue all of those up there.

 They probably had Hildi from Trading Spaces do it.

 I hope these temptation/risk and reward things keep things off kilter and prevent the awful alliances of awful people that have plagued recent seasons, but I'm sure they will all fizzle by the end of the 3 week and Up With Assholes '17 will have united. 

[Callaphera]

3 minutes ago, Maverick said:

 They probably had Hildi from Trading Spaces do it.

Not enough hay.

[gunderda]

On 6/20/2017 at 9:35 AM, Lady Calypso said:

The leaving the water running isn't as big of a pet peeve, although it still bugs me, but my other big one is people leaving food and drinks open on the counter. Now, I'd be cleaning up after everyone or complaining about it! I'm a messy person, but I'm not dirty, so even if I don't like cleaning and avoid it as much as possible, I still do it once it gets bad. 

So when I see these damn houseguests leaving food and drinks out and never putting them away, I get pissy. THIS IS WHY YOU PEOPLE HAVE ANTS BY WEEK TWO. At least if you put things away and keep the counters clean, the ants won't come right away!

But if someone would properly spray that property for ants they wouldn't have to worry about keeping food open.  HOWEVER, since that house is notorious for ants, anyone coming in and leaving food out is an idiot. 

I have to give ants some cred though.... I had them for a little bit this spring which made me keep my kitchen super clean.... put dishes in the dishwasher immediately (I used to pile them in my sink and do dishes every sunday) and run the dishwasher maybe 2 times a week and I'm still doing it even though the ants have been long gone! #yayadulting

[PhoneCop]

Oy! To borrow from Tim Gunn...that's a lot of look. It's like they jammed a bunch of disparate showrooms together to fit the five keywords without any regard to how they'd look as a whole. The HoH room is pure Trump Tower, the dining area is Fourth of July, the apple room is just No. They've had recent seasons where the house didn't look like complete ass, but I suppose nice things never last on this show.

I will say that some of the purple elements are cool and the lounge area on the sky bridge is perfectly fine. If I were a HG this season, I'd be spending all my time up there to keep my eyes from bleeding.

[peachmangosteen]

4 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

No napping rule from BBOTT will stay! Or so Grodner says.

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YES! Finally, they do something right!

I love this house tbh. I think it's beautiful. I can't wait until they completely trash it!

The twist has potential, but they normally do and they all fail, so this one will, too. It makes me nervous when America has so much power because 'America' never likes who I like lol. But the outcomes in OTT have me optimistic that maybe it won't always not go my way this season.

Edited June 21, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[Lady Calypso]

17 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

The twist has potential, but they normally do and they all fail, so this one will, too. It makes me nervous when America has so much power because 'America' never likes who I like lol. But the outcomes in OTT have me optimistic that maybe it won't always not go my way this season.

Yeah, I'm hoping for the best.

Oh, there is another twist called: Den of Temptation. Basically like MVP, where America will vote who gets to go into the Den of Temptation each week to get some sort of "game changing opportunity". Hopefully they also implement the rule from BBOTT, where one person cannot get into the den every week. 

[Star Aristille]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 0:25 PM, Lamb18 said:

I liked BB:OTT quite a bit as it ended up being "good vs. evil" and the good guy won!! The whole experience was fun for me: watching the show and seeing the competitions, care package, etc. all live without background music and editing; America's participation, and especially the chat rooms - I found one I bonded with and we had a lot of fun. Shelby's mom even chatted in there sometimes.  Plus there were some good personalities and  some that were unlikeable but fun to watch and comment on (Krusty). It was so fun to see Jason lose! I don't know how it fits in with BB as a whole since I only started watching with Nicole's first season but I guess I enjoyed it more than the season just before it where Nicole won.

Um . . . excuse me?  Am I reading this right?  I stopped following the season because I was so sure that Alex's ouster meant that America had firmly lined up behind Jason's side and would help them evict all of the Ball Smashers.  Am I reading that one of the Ball Smashers in question still managed to pull it off?!  If so, how did Jason take it?  And how is he still taking it?  (He seems like the petty sort to me.)

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

Oh, there is another twist called: Den of Temptation. Basically like MVP, where America will vote who gets to go into the Den of Temptation each week to get some sort of "game changing opportunity". Hopefully they also implement the rule from BBOTT, where one person cannot get into the den every week. 

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That's the only twist I know of lol. What's the other twist?

25 minutes ago, Star Aristille said:

Um . . . excuse me?  Am I reading this right?  I stopped following the season because I was so sure that Alex's ouster meant that America had firmly lined up behind Jason's side and would help them evict all of the Ball Smashers.  Am I reading that one of the Ball Smashers in question still managed to pull it off?!  If so, how did Jason take it?  And how is he still taking it?  (He seems like the petty sort to me.)

Morgan won! The F3 was Morgan, Jason, and Kristy. Jason pretended like he was fine with it but you know he was pissed. He totally thought he had it in the bag.

[Lady Calypso]

29 minutes ago, Star Aristille said:

Um . . . excuse me?  Am I reading this right?  I stopped following the season because I was so sure that Alex's ouster meant that America had firmly lined up behind Jason's side and would help them evict all of the Ball Smashers.  Am I reading that one of the Ball Smashers in question still managed to pull it off?!  If so, how did Jason take it?  And how is he still taking it?  (He seems like the petty sort to me.)

Yeah, you missed a whole lot. The turning point toward the Ball Smashers came when Morgan won that very important Care Package that saved both her and Shelby. According to Julie, it was a VERY close vote, like by the double digits or lower triple digits. I think everyone, Morgan included, was stunned. I didn't watch the finale live for the sole reason that I thought Morgan was getting second and I didn't want to see Jason's smug face. 

[Lady Calypso]

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

That's the only twist I know of lol. What's the other twist?

Oh! Haha! I honestly thought you were talking about the safety deposit boxes! But there is that new secret Sunday twist that they're keeping under wraps. Those are the only twists I know about.

[peachmangosteen]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

Oh! Haha! I honestly thought you were talking about the safety deposit boxes! But there is that new secret Sunday twist that they're keeping under wraps. Those are the only twists I know about.

I thought the Sunday twist was the Den of Temptation thing. Everything is confusing!

[Lady Calypso]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I thought the Sunday twist was the Den of Temptation thing. Everything is confusing!

Maybe it is! Maybe I read things wrong! And...I did; you are right! They do describe it as a Sunday "event". 

[peachmangosteen]

Which I would assume means the Den of Temptation thing will be done before noms.

[peachmangosteen]

6 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I can't get over the tours of the two bedrooms downstairs. The theme of the one room being power (and screaming masculinity, right down to the pillows with golf shit on them). The second bedroom being all romantic and flower filled and pretty... and clearly female. I don't expect Big Brother to be a voice of morality and equality and shit but for some reason, I just can't get over that. Even the colour palettes annoy the fuck out of me. 

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That is so gross. I didn't even see the 'girly' room. There's no pics of it on the site and it wasn't in the house tour vid I watched. Can you link me to the pics/vid showing it?

OK so, based on the Jeff and Ika interviews and the snippets of print interviews I've read, this is how I feel about the HGs pre-show:

Like: Dominique, Elena, Alex, Kevin, Raven
Indifferent/Undecided: Christmas, Matthew, Jason, Jessica, Cameron, Mark, Megan (leaning towards hate on her though), Josh, Ramses
Hate: Jillian, Cody

[Lady Calypso]

Here's where I'm at:

Like: Christmas, Matthew, Cameron, Kevin

Indifferent/Undecided: Jessica, Dominique, Elena, Mark, Ramses, Raven, Alex, Josh

Dislike: Jillian, Cody, Jason

I don't even know what it is about Jason that I dislike; all I know is that I'm not fond of him. 

[Star Aristille]

On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 5:27 PM, peachmangosteen said:

Morgan won! The F3 was Morgan, Jason, and Kryssie. Jason pretended like he was fine with it but you know he was pissed. He totally thought he had it in the bag.

 

On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 5:32 PM, Lady Calypso said:

Yeah, you missed a whole lot. The turning point toward the Ball Smashers came when Morgan won that very important Care Package that saved both her and Shelby. According to Julie, it was a VERY close vote, like by the double digits or lower triple digits. I think everyone, Morgan included, was stunned. I didn't watch the finale live for the sole reason that I thought Morgan was getting second and I didn't want to see Jason's smug face. 

Thanks, both of you!  I might pop back in and check out the threads and see what happened for the remainder of the journey, then, to see what led up to it!

I assume Morgan was happy, though.  Wasn't she?  "Stunned" sounds like she wasn't.

Edited June 27, 2017 by Star Aristille

[Lady Calypso]

2 minutes ago, Star Aristille said:

I assume Morgan was happy, though.  Wasn't she?  "Stunned" sounds like she wasn't.

Morgan was very happy. Maybe surprised would be a better word. Everyone was surprised at the win!

[Artsda]

House looks kind of like they wanted to go with the BBCan Vegas house idea.

[ByaNose]

37 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Morgan was very happy. Maybe surprised would be a better word. Everyone was surprised at the win!

I was shocked. I even saw the card that said Morgan but I still read it as Jason. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Jason was going to win. I think Morgan was (totally) shocked. It was a fan vote that got him in the house and a fan vote for the winner. Soooooooooooo.......

[Cherry Cola]

Ooh, I can't wait for this season! The house looks nice-ish.  I love the bathroom the most.  Very pretty.  Hoh makes me think old Hollywood style or Great Gatsby.  

[Lady Calypso]

You know what? I think everyone needs to relive the finale:

The fact that Jason had to tell Morgan that she did, in fact win, is a gem in itself.

[Callaphera]

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

That is so gross. I didn't even see the 'girly' room. There's no pics of it on the site and it wasn't in the house tour vid I watched. Can you link me to the pics/vid showing it?

The Hollywood Reporter video linked up thread shows the two different bedrooms. Now granted, I'm putting my own spin on that. But look at the "power" room, which is all in deep greens and masculine fabrics and golf pillows and Gordon Gekko reference, and then contrast it to the red, lush, pretty room with the necklace holders and roses on the wall. I don't think Julie used a name or theme for the red room, she just sighed romantically and fluttered her eyelashes.

Am I reading too much into this?

ETA: I know it goes with the words on the wall: power and seduction(? whatever stupid word it was). But it still made me make a face when I first saw it.

Edited June 22, 2017 by Callaphera

[ByaNose]

Question? When did they enter the house? They usually need a week or two of footage to show next week, right? Just curious.

[Lady Calypso]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Question? When did they enter the house? They usually need a week or two of footage to show next week, right? Just curious.

On Twitter, I read that they might have entered last night. If not yesterday, then they enter today. It's usually a week before the premiere airs that they're in there, so I do think they're already in the house.

[peachmangosteen]

10 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Am I reading too much into this?

 

I don't think so. It's at least marginally sexist-ish. But par for the course with this show.

I wonder why they didn't put any pics of the rose room on the site. Also, I wonder what the HN room will be like. Maybe they'll have to sleep on a bed of apples lol.

[ByaNose]

59 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

On Twitter, I read that they might have entered last night. If not yesterday, then they enter today. It's usually a week before the premiere airs that they're in there, so I do think they're already in the house.

Thanks for the information. I knew they entered before we see them and the live feeds. For years, I always thought the first show was the actual day they entered. At least, with OTT that was true. The Live Feeds started with Scott which was way too long. LOL!! It got better as more people entered. I'm looking forward to Wednesday so I can enjoy my guilty pleasure. It's like reading a trashy paper back book from back in the day.

[HurricaneVal]

I never read the bios before the show for BB or Survivor or The Amazing Race...  I prefer to develop my hate organically.

 

I really hope that the "no napping" rule is really in effect.   You notice Grodner was actually pretty noncommittal about that in that article.  Actually, I think "no napping" has always been in the BB rules, but it hasn't been enforced.  There are a lot of rules that they don't bother enforcing.

 

One rule I wish they had is only the HoH can have the key to the HoH room, and other houseguests can only be in the HoH room if the HoH is present and has given his/her specific permission.  I'm tired of the HoH room being treated like the VIP lounge at a hot nightclub where the cool kids take over and the nerds passively let it happen.

 

I'd also like to see the return of the food/luxury competition, or have privileges taken away if rules are broken.  So-and-so napped, in defiance of the rules?  No hammock in the backyard for a week, and now folks are pissed at so-and-so which risks them getting put on the block.   You want pizza, BBQ wings, and Honey Bunches of Oats rather than rice, chicken breasts, and generic oatie-o's?  Bust your ass in a special competition or complete a special project and you get those luxuries.   Make it a house competition instead of team competition, so everyone has to show their commitment to the entire house rather than just their alliance.

 

And for fuck's sake, figure out something to get rid of this "voting with the house" bullshit.  That is boring TV...  Hear me, Grodner?       grumblegrumblegrumble...

[Callaphera]

So, the no napping rule is just as simple as that? No more cheesing the "I'm gonna suntan in the back with my sunglasses and hat over my head while I'm a HN" like Brittany used to? Punishments if you're caught?

Fuck yeah. Does that mean no more sleeping until 5 pm and then being up all hours of the night? 

And yeah, the food comps need to come back. I want to see the drama when someone decides they need beer more than they need bread. "It's still a grain, man!"

[Lady Calypso]

11 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

So, the no napping rule is just as simple as that? No more cheesing the "I'm gonna suntan in the back with my sunglasses and hat over my head while I'm a HN" like Brittany used to? Punishments if you're caught?

It would be nice if it was that simple, but even OTT had people breaking the rule. Danielle used to nap all the time, as did Jason. Everyone else managed to stay up for the most part. The Ball Smashers and Whitney, to my recollection, were pretty good at following the rule. However, production did call them out when it was done all the time.

I see people on Twitter freaking out about the no napping rule. "Wahhh, but Big Brother After Dark will be boring with everyone sleeping. Wahhhhh! No napping rule sucks!"

First off, the houseguests, at least a few of them, will have to stay up for BBAD so that particular programming won't be watching people sleeping. Second of all, delusional houseguests with little sleep leads to fun feeds and lots of fighting. Also, shut up, Twitter. You guys were LITERALLY whining the last few seasons about how people were napping too much during the day and THOSE feeds were boring. What the hell do you want? No napping or boring feeds? Also, these houseguests are adults. Adults typically don't take naps every single day. If they can't somehow stay up until 12 or 1am without a nap, then that's on them. I know the house is usually boring, but BBOTT even managed to keep up with the no napping rule and it worked out well. Ok, granted, most of the competitions ended up taking place at night so that kind of helped their cause.

[ByaNose]

I work in the real world and I want to sleep all the time. I can't imagine being in the BB house and not being allowed to nap when I wanted to. If you did the HOH, POV and the Confessionals I think you should be allowed to nap any damn time you want. LOL!!! I would never survive in that trailer. The ants alone would do me in.

[peachmangosteen]

3 hours ago, HurricaneVal said:

I'd also like to see the return of the food/luxury competition, or have privileges taken away if rules are broken.  So-and-so napped , in defiance of the rules?  No hammock in the backyard for a week, and now folks are pissed at so-and-so which risks them getting put on the block.   You want pizza, BBQ wings, and Honey Bunches of Oats rather than rice, chicken breasts, and generic oatie - o's ?  Bust your ass in a special competition or complete a special project and you get those luxuries.   Make it a house competition instead of team competition, so everyone has to show their commitment to the entire house rather than just their alliance

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I want all this, too. Basically, I wish BBUS would take some cues from BBCan.

[peachmangosteen]

Hamster Watch is saying they're hearing that there will be a 17th HG and they're hinting that it's Paul. Ew. I mean if they just had to bring someone from last season back why couldn't it have been, like, Victor. He's not as heinous as Paul and it'd be funny to give him yet another chance.

[Lady Calypso]

I'm hoping that's not the case. I did a quick count of the plates on the big table and there are only 16, so I don't think it's true. There's usually hints by the number of place settings at the table.

[Lamb18]

Why couldn't the 17th guest be Shelby?

But she probably has a life.

I'd rather not Paul. Then everything would be About Paul. What was his duck's name? I almost remember it.

Maybe Jozea (?), the delusional guy. His delusion was funny, especially when he was in a puppy costume.

[ByaNose]

Considering everyone thought it was going to an All Star season I doubt it. That said, I keep thinking that there is going to be some twist where 1 or more vets compete to come in the house. They would have to win to do so. 

[Callaphera]

1 hour ago, Lamb18 said:

I'd rather not Paul. Then everything would be About Paul. What was his duck's name? I almost remember it.

Pablo, the fucking pool floaty. 

All hail Big Meech for stealing it on the way out. Boo to production for giving it back.

[peachmangosteen]

13 hours ago, Callaphera said:

All hail Big Meech for stealing it on the way out.

 

Possibly the best moment of the season.

More fuel to the 'Paul's returning' fire: he stopped posting on snapchat/instagram and Kryssie said that his band was supposed to perform at a premiere party and they backed out. But considering it's Paul this could all be a ruse that he thinks is so cute and funny.

I'm thinking about maybe doing a fantasy pool for BB here. Would anyone be interested in that or no?

Edited June 23, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[Lady Calypso]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I'm thinking about maybe doing a fantasy pool for BB here. Would anyone be interested in that or no?

I'd be so interested.

If Paul's coming back, why? He got second place; it's not like he got robbed or anything. I'd rather Victor than Paul. Victor started off as the worst for me but then became one of my favourites, all because he learned from his first eviction, and then actually changed. 

Granted, Paul altered his gameplay as he was learning, but he did get to second. He just happened to screw himself at the end. 

[vb68]

As long as it's not Paulie. Heh. I remember Davonne getting confused with the names in the first episode last year when they were picking people and yelling right in his face "No! Paulieee!"

Yeah that set the tone for the summer with those two right there.

Edited June 23, 2017 by vb68

[Mindthinkr]

Temptation...does this mean that they're bringing back Pandora's Box? 

[Ananayel]

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And for fuck's sake, figure out something to get rid of this "voting with the house" bullshit.  That is boring TV...  Hear me, Grodner?       grumblegrumblegrumble...

Alas, I have but one "like" to give. We won't get things like this, or keeping vote totals secret, until we get someone other than Grodner as exec producer. Which means never.

As long as the returnee (if there is one) isn't Frank or Frankie, I'll probably be okay.

[Lamb18]

I'm watching the cast videos now.

• Christmas is OK.
• I kind of like the rodeo clown Jason aka Whistlenut. If he wins he wants to buy a helicopter large enough to carry his bull. Having been around cows, I don't know if I'd want to be up in the air with a bull. He hasn't watched Big Brother before, so... obvious recruit.
• Jillian looks like a slightly aged Nicole. (I lost 75 pounds without weight loss surgery, Jillian.) I don't know how wise it is to say that you are funny and quirky and witty, you have to be it, not say it. I also had that shirt 30+ years ago. I guess I don't care for her too much, I can't figure out exactly why.
• Ha, ha, I like Dominique the nuclear engineer. But if she has a regular job working for the government, how can she get so much time off?
• I like Ramses, too, but I can't help wondering if when he was a little boy, his dad read mummification techniques for bedtime stories (reference to Elizabeth Peter's Amelia Peabody series). He's nice and friendly but I got a bit of a potential Jason vibe from him. We'll see.
• I do not like Matthew. I don't know why, but I don't. He came across as the guy who will kick you to the curb with a smile. We'll see if I'm right or way off as the season progresses.

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Temptation...does this mean that they're bringing back Pandora's Box? 

Basically. It sounds like it'll be a PB type thing (ETA: AHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOO!) every week and America will vote on which HG to give it to.

4 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

I kind of like the rodeo clown Jason aka Whistlenut.

 

I do, too. I'm kind of ashamed to say that though since most people are really hating him. I mean I'm sure he'll be awful eventually, they all will, but for now I like him OK.

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I do not like Matthew. I don't know why, but I don't. He came across as the guy who will kick you to the curb with a smile. We'll see if I'm right or way off as the season progresses.

 

I liked Matthew in the Jeff interview, but I think that was just because he's cute. I've gotten a weird vibe from him in all subsequent interviews.

But no one gives me weirder vibes than Cody. I swear he gives me sociopath vibes. He's scary imo. I'm pretty sure he has bloody knuckles, which is real disturbing.

Edited June 23, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[ByaNose]

I'm dying to find out who the majority alliance is. They've been there 2 while days and should have one by now, right? LOL!!! I guess it comes down to the HOH and then the HG pick sides. The latest rumor I heard was that someone will be evicted on Thursday. I guess that could work. They've been in a week and the premiere is Wednesday and the first live show is Thursday. That's plenty of time to hate someone and vote them out. What's the over/under that someone says they hate voting out their best friend? After, having only known that person for only 7 days. LOL!!!

[Nashville]

6 hours ago, Ananayel said:

Alas, I have but one "like" to give. We won't get things like this, or keeping vote totals secret, until we get someone other than Grodner as exec producer. Which means never.

As long as the returnee (if there is one) isn't Frank or Frankie, I'll probably be okay.

All this x1000.

[Callaphera]

Let's hope (Shine Bright Like A) Frankie is too busy with his Candy Crush game show appearances - and trying to get out from under the shadow of his sister - to show up on BB. I would put money on another Hitmen appearance, though. No, Cody, please continue to tell me how you wouldn't change a thing and hand away $450K, you dumbass. 

Not gonna lie, when I heard what happened with Ariana Grande in Europe, I was certain that Big Brother was gonna come a-callin' for Frankie to make an appearance. It would fit with their usual tone deaf style. 

[Star Aristille]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

I'm dying to find out who the majority alliance is. They've been there 2 while days and should have one by now, right?

They're already in there?!  I thought they moved in today!

[Maverick]

It would be easier to ask who's not on the majority alliance.  The past few years these morons have created early alliances that comprise at least 80% of the house.   The better question is what idiotic name they'll give said super alliance and how many alliance names we'll get this season (I'm going with 13).   I'm waiting for the season where they get the entire house in a mega alliance and call it Pangaea (like anyone in the house would get it).