BkWurm1 July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 I think they just need to make dramedy an official category and stop trying to label those shows as something different. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4514117
Soulfire July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Damn. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515254
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) Is there such a thing as too much cuteness? ... Edited July 23, 2018 by tv echo 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515581
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) More Kate/Batwoman audition videos (same audition scenes) - I'm only going to post these auditions in this thread going forward and not in the spoilers threads... Audition for Rapaport Posted: July 22, 2018, by Ashley Platz Batwoman 3 Posted: July 23, 2018, by Nicole Pacent-Lindquist Edited July 23, 2018 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515601
JJ928 July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) So SA said that there's a surprise character in the xover that's even more exciting than Batwoman, and people are going to freak out.David said that he'd like to see Bruce, not Batman, but regular Bruce Wayne in this verse. What are the chances that Bruce Wayne will be in the xover to set up Batwoman? I'm just trying to wonder who could be more exciting than the character the xover is meant for. Edited July 23, 2018 by JJ928 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515775
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) The Biggest Winners of San Diego Comic-Con 2018 by LAUREN PIESTER | Mon., Jul. 23, 2018 3:00 AMhttps://www.eonline.com/news/953943/the-biggest-winners-of-san-diego-comic-con-2018 Quote The CW's DC Universe As usual, all of the CW's superhero shows were present, showing off what looks like a really interesting, progressive, inclusive, and fun season ahead. Supergirl introduced the first ever transgender superhero, played by activist Nicole Maines. The Flash revealed that Barry and Iris' surprise daughter Nora is going to play a major part this season, while Arrow showed how Oliver's faring in prison now that everyone knows his secret (spoiler alert: not well). Black Lightning showed off a new fight between Black Lightning and Whale, and Legends of Tomorrow was business as usual with Beebo, with the added highly anticipated addition of Matt Ryan as Constantine. Edited July 23, 2018 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515780
Chaser July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, JJ928 said: So SA said that there's a surprise character in the xover that's even more exciting that Batwoman, and people are going to freak out.David said that he'd like to see Bruce, not Batman, but regular Bruce Wayne in this verse. What are the chances that Bruce Wayne will be in the xover to set up Batwoman? I'm just trying to wonder who could be more exciting than the character the xover is meant for. I'd say there is a good chance. Oliver has already name dropped Bruce Wayne. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515809
JJ928 July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Yeah, I just can't think of any other character that would have that kind of reaction. I guess if not Bruce Wayne, maybe someone like Lucius Fox (can't see SA finding that exciting tbh), or someone else from the bat family. But Bruce is the one that the cast has always said they wanted the most. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515836
Chaser July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 I think it should be Alfred. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515845
Primal Slayer July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Hasn't it been speculated that Tim/Stephanie are showing up? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515872
JJ928 July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: Hasn't it been speculated that Tim/Stephanie are showing up? I think there were rumors they'd be on SG but no real source. I'm not 100% sure. That said, do you really think SA knows who they are or would be excited for them? I don't lol. this is the quote I'm thinking of Edited July 23, 2018 by JJ928 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515885
KenyaJ July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4515995
Trisha July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Wait, are Grant and Stephen no longer doing voicework on The Ray? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516525
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Some Sydney Bucksbaum (THR) tweets from Flash panel at SDCC... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516703
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Some Sydney Bucksbaum (THR) tweets from LoT panel at SDCC... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516750
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 Some Sydney Bucksbaum (THR) tweets from Supergirl panel at SDCC... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516810
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516838
tv echo July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 (edited) The 4 best moments from the new Arrowverse Comic-Con trailers CHANCELLOR AGARD July 23, 2018 at 03:54 PM EDThttp://ew.com/tv/2018/07/23/best-moments-arrowverse-comic-con-trailers/ Quote Arrow teases a thrilling prison shower fight ... Last week, Arrow star Stephen Amell tweeted that he was “singularly proud” of an action scene in the season 7 premiere, and we finally have an idea of what he’s talking about. In the trailer above, we see Oliver Queen — who went to prison at the end of season 6 — fighting off assailants in the prison showers. What little we see of the entire fight is thrilling, brutal, and a reminder that it’s insane that this show has never earned an Emmy nomination for its excellent stunt work (The season 7 premiere is actually directed by the show’s stunt coordinator-turned-director James Bamford). “That was eight hours of hard fighting. I’m very proud of that,” Amell told EW when he came by our Comic-Con studio on Saturday. Dear Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, give this show’s stunt team a damn Emmy nomination already! Other highlights from the trailer: A first look at the returns of Bronze Tiger (Michael Jai White), Derek Sampson (Cody Runnels), and Danny “Brick” Brickwell (Vinnie Jones); a new archer comes to town; and Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) defending William. Arrow teases a thrilling prison shower fight Nora gives both The Flash and fans a long-awaited gift from the comics Agent Liberty and a mysterious figure arrive in Supergirl season 4 trailerDC’s Legends of Tomorrow screw ‘things up for the more magical’ Edited July 23, 2018 by tv echo 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4516884
Trini July 23, 2018 Share July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Trisha said: Wait, are Grant and Stephen no longer doing voicework on The Ray? They didn't do voicework on the first part either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517464
Trini July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517630
Wishing Well July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 I love Kevin Smith. I never thought much of him until Ace Comic Con this year, where he moderated three panels. Just the ease he spoke with, and how comfortable the stars were around him, most of all Grant Gustin. Kevin was walking with his back turned to us and was late to a panel and we blurted out his name to thank him for moderating, and he physically turned his body around to thank us for coming and for enjoying his panel moderating. It’s just the little things that make you feel special. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517894
BkWurm1 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, tv echo said: The random turban on CL physically pains me. How is dressing like Norma Desmond from Sunset Boulevard a good look? Especially paired with the open netting over the rest of her outfit. Please let that NOT be a fashion trend. Edited July 24, 2018 by BkWurm1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517968
scarynikki12 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 My theory is that she didn't wash her hair that morning and was concerned it would be obvious. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517980
apinknightmare July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said: My theory is that she didn't wash her hair that morning and was concerned it would be obvious. What's the excuse for the rest of that outfit then? Haha 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4517995
Starfish35 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 I wasn’t wild about Caity’s look either. To me it made me think of a 20s flapper-ish style look, but I’m not sure if that’s what she was going for. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4518005
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, scarynikki12 said: My theory is that she didn't wash her hair that morning and was concerned it would be obvious. She should have hit up EBR for her dry shampoo supplier. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4518065
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 Does anyone know what went down between Candice and Danielle? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4518923
Starfish35 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) Why? What happened? Edited July 24, 2018 by Starfish35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4518969
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) There’s a video clip from the signing booth of a photographer getting a pic of CP and DP and they seemed less then friendly who each other. Didn’t really acknowledge each other, just walked over took the pic and walked back to their corners. There were a look of comments under the clip about bad blood and something went down between them around the time EBR unfollowed DP on SM. Edited July 24, 2018 by Chaser Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4518998
Starfish35 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 Oh interesting. Wonder what’s going on. I didn’t know about EBR unfollowing DP. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519008
Primal Slayer July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 They never seemed remotely close in the first place. Wasnt CP one of the few Flash cast members to not attend DPs wedding? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519027
Guest July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 I think it goes back to DP always excluding CP from pics or when she posts about the show. It's quite obvious, IMO, and I'm not even part of that fandom. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519043
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) I never thought they were close, I just never realized how not friendly they were. 9 minutes ago, Angel12d said: I think it goes back to DP always excluding CP from pics or when she posts about the show. It's quite obvious, IMO, and I'm not even part of that fandom. I could see that. She posted a pic after the panel with all the cast mates but CP. Edited July 24, 2018 by Chaser Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519060
Guest July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chaser said: I could see that. She posted a pic after the panel with all the cast mates but CP. Yeah. Obviously you don't always have to post pics with everyone but IMO she very obviously excludes her a lot. It happens too often. Don't quote me on it but I think there has even been occasions when she's tagged most of the cast and not CP. Just petty and childish tbh. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519067
JJ928 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 They definitely don't get along. I saw this on twitter, start at 8:27. DP was asked about Iris/Caitlin friendship and instead answered how Iris needed out of star labs. This isn't surprising since she said in the past she likes being the only woman in the lab. I can't stand her or Grant from this cast. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519068
Mellowyellow July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: They never seemed remotely close in the first place. Wasnt CP one of the few Flash cast members to not attend DPs wedding? Haha I always take that as a sign. I never believed Julie Bowen and Sofia V hated each other cuz Julie went to her wedding. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519069
JJ928 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Angel12d said: Yeah. Obviously you don't always have to post pics with everyone but IMO she very obviously excludes her a lot. It happens too often. Don't quote me on it but I think there has even been occasions when she's tagged most of the cast and not CP. Just petty and childish tbh. Yep. She's also liked shady tweets that were nasty towards Iris/CP. In the past when asked about a possible friendship with Iris, she'd ignore that and talk up other female guest stars like Patty or Felicity instead. She's been that way since season 1, so has GG but people still like him for some reason. Edited July 24, 2018 by JJ928 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519076
Guest July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, JJ928 said: Yep. She's also liked shady tweets that were nasty towards Iris/CP. In the past when asked about a possible friendship with Iris, she'd ignore that and talk up other female guest stars like Patty or Felicity instead. She's been that way since season 1, so has GG but people still like him for some reason. Yeah. I'm not a fan. And I don't think she's a good actress but maybe that's just me. Haha. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519080
Mellowyellow July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 GG and CP don't get along? I've heard about him liking shady articles but I didn't think they were unfriendly with each other. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519083
JJ928 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 Just now, Angel12d said: Yeah. I'm not a fan. And I don't think she's a good actress but maybe that's just me. Haha. It's not just you. Before the shadiness in season 1, I was all in for the cast but I thought her acting was terrible. Here we are going in to season 5 and it's still just as bad. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519084
Starfish35 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: They never seemed remotely close in the first place. Wasnt CP one of the few Flash cast members to not attend DPs wedding? Did any of the Arrowverse ladies go besides Katie Cassidy? She’s the only one I’ve seen mentioned. But yeah, the rest of the Flash cast seems to have been there. Edited July 24, 2018 by Starfish35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519093
JJ928 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: GG and CP don't get along? I've heard about him liking shady articles but I didn't think they were unfriendly with each other. I couldn't say tbh. They seem to but that could be all fake, but I truly don't know. I know GG has tried to be less of an asshole, and more supportive of Iris/CP, but imo he does it because he knows his ass will be dragged. They probably get along ok, they don't seem to hate each other at events like sdcc (where CP/DP can't hide their animosity), but again no one truly knows. I hope for CP's sake they get along. IDGAF about Grant and his lame acting ass, but I hope he and Candice are friendly enough and the workplace isn't hostile for her. Edited July 24, 2018 by JJ928 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519094
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Angel12d said: Yeah. I'm not a fan. And I don't think she's a good actress but maybe that's just me. Haha. It’s not. It’s like a cardboard cutout saying lines. Edited July 24, 2018 by Chaser 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519095
Mellowyellow July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 @JJ928 from the little snippets I've seen on social media GG and CP seem civil to each other. Hehe thought there was another scandal I missed! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519112
Chaser July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Starfish35 said: Did any of the Arrowverse ladies go besides Katie Cassidy? She’s the only one I’ve seen mentioned. But yeah, the rest of the Flash cast seems to have been there. I’m pretty sure she was the only one. This is why I roll my eyes at KC and DP being apart of sheority. KC comments about how warm and friendly the environment is for woman and mentioning DP by name, when both of them were excluding female cast mates and liking shady tweets. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519113
Sakura12 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 DP is even less involved with Shethority then KC. And if Caity and Candice are as good of friends as they seem that is probably why. And explains why CP hangs out with CL and the Legends cast more then her own cast. Wasn't CL at a Flash cast dinner? CP must really feel alone that she invited her own friend to the dinner. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519148
JJ928 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 (edited) DP probably isn't involved much because of Candice. Caity and DP seem to be friendly enough to the point where they've cared for each others pets. I know CL has tweeted nice things about DP, some not that long ago and they're mutuals. I think Candice is close to Jessie & Danielle N, I'm glad Dani got upped to regular it'll be nice for CP to have some women on her side. Edited July 24, 2018 by JJ928 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519170
KenyaJ July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 For anyone who wants to see the video. I saw a different, slightly longer version on Saturday that I can't find now. Icicles formed on my laptop from the frostiness. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519204
scarynikki12 July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 Jumping in to say that, based on the Flash panel, Grant and Candice get along just fine. When he wasn't answering questions he was doing one of two things: giggling with Tom or whispering to Candice. Now, he did giggle with Tom about 75% of the time, so it wasn't an even split but the whispered chats with Candice would result in both smiling at each other. They're fine. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519214
bijoux July 24, 2018 Share July 24, 2018 That snort from the person filming it or someone next to them is the cherry on top. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/page/551/#findComment-4519216
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