Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 I hope that wasn't the reaction DR has been pimping because that was kind of lame. In other news finals are in Link to comment
bijoux November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Cute. I love Felicity and Wells yammering on in the background during the introduction. 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Ratings for the Week Flash - 1.2/3.01 Supergirl - 0.7/2.35 Arrow - 0.7/1.86 SPN - 0.7/1.79 LoT - 0.6/1.85 So, that's interesting. LoT had more viewers than SPN and almost the same as Arrow but it's just not pulling in the 18-49 demo. There's also a 3 way tie for 2nd place in the demo between Supergirl, Arrow and SPN. I can't imagine the CW is happy with 2 out of 3 of those shows scoring a 0.7. For comparison, last year SPN pulled the same ratings 0.7/1.71, meanwhile Arrow scored a 1.1/2.69. 7 Link to comment
Mellowyellow November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, bijoux said: Cute. I love Felicity and Wells yammering on in the background during the introduction. I hope they have a HR and Felicity scene. I've been pondering how Felicity would react to HR and can't work out what she'd think of him and his salesman-ish schtick. Seems like she likes him just fine. 1 Link to comment
bijoux November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Why are people using HR for Harrison Wells? It's confusing me. Link to comment
Mellowyellow November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bijoux said: Why are people using HR for Harrison Wells? It's confusing me. He's the hipster version of Wells. Calls himself HR on the Flash. I watch Flash every week so that's what I think of him as. Different to Harry and Evil Wells. Edited November 18, 2016 by Mellowyellow 2 Link to comment
Chaser November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 I was confused too. Couple things: Arrow has dropped a lot and Supernatural is amazing. 1 Link to comment
dtissagirl November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, bijoux said: Why are people using HR for Harrison Wells? It's confusing me. It's a new Harrison Wells from a different Earth, the characters literally call him HR. 3 Link to comment
bijoux November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Mellowyellow said: He's the hipster version of Wells. Calls himself HR on the Flash. I watch Flash every week so that's what I think of him as. Different to Harry and Evil Wells. 1 minute ago, dtissagirl said: It's a new Harrison Wells from a different Earth, the characters literally call him HR. Thanks. Link to comment
ComicFan777 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 Random question for those who look at tv ratings: What is a reasonable/expected drop for returning shows from season to season? Link to comment
Starfish35 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 (edited) From following TVByTheNumbers and TV Grim Reaper, it seems like most of the time shows tend to drop in the spring, and then return in the fall to their spring numbers. So it's a continual gradual trend downward. There may be a few shows that buck that trend, but that seems to be what happens with most shows. Arrow's problem, it looks like to me, is that it's just never recovered from the hit it took last spring. IIRC, its spring finale got an 0.8. Supergirl - I'm not sure what's going on there. I would have expected some drop with the network change, but it kept dropping from there, so.... Edited November 18, 2016 by Starfish35 2 Link to comment
LeighAn November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, ComicFan777 said: Random question for those who look at tv ratings: What is a reasonable/expected drop for returning shows from season to season? Rillacuthbert on tumblr who I believe is a statician in real life posted something earlier in the season that said that CW shows statistically see viewership drop 19% in their fifth seasons IIRC I think Arrows down like 20-25% so far. But I'm not an expert. I think ink what's more worrying is the demos though When you have a 12th (?) season show that's out performing in both viewership and occasionally demo of a 5th season show and 2nd season shows its got to ruffle a few feathers. But since Arrows syndicated I'm assuming the CW are probably more unhappy with Supergirl and LOT, but who knows. I think network just over saturate their lineup with superhero shows and while audiences might enjoy them maybe they don't want to watch them EVERY SINGLE night of the week. 4 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 There's a couple of thoughts on LoT. On the one hand it's pretty stable compared to last season. On the other hand it premiered in the Spring where ratings are normally lower. Ideally it should have had better numbers in the fall. However, in the end it's probably the least of the CWs concerns. I imagine Supergirl is #1 followed by Arrow. Flash has seen a rebound this week which should make them happy. 8 Link to comment
Starfish35 November 18, 2016 Share November 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: There's a couple of thoughts on LoT. On the one hand it's pretty stable compared to last season. On the other hand it premiered in the Spring where ratings are normally lower. Ideally it should have had better numbers in the fall. However, in the end it's probably the least of the CWs concerns. I imagine Supergirl is #1 followed by Arrow. Flash has seen a rebound this week which should make them happy. Agreed with all of this. Link to comment
BkWurm1 November 19, 2016 Share November 19, 2016 17 hours ago, Sakura12 said: They have made her only interested in women this season. And in the last episode they had Mick say to Jonah Hex that Sara's into women. And from that tweet it does look like they erased Sara being Bi. Yeah, I've been wondering about just this. Sara and Oliver is too big a bit of history for it to just vanish. Are they really going to say that Oliver's penis was just that magical that Sara made an exception? Beyond the basics of just getting it wrong, I hate the show putting any limitations on the character. 7 hours ago, LeighAn said: But since Arrows syndicated I'm assuming the CW are probably more unhappy with Supergirl and LOT, but who knows. I think network just over saturate their lineup with superhero shows and while audiences might enjoy them maybe they don't want to watch them EVERY SINGLE night of the week. I think I would feel that that it was less saturated if the shows were having good seasons. None are perfect but there's been some really terrible stuff on Arrow and Flash. Somehow being less invested in LoT and Supergirl makes their faults easier to stomach but sometimes I'm so exhausted from the first two I don't want to watch the others. As it is, I haven't been able to even bother with Gotham and AoS. (I'll catch up over the hiatus) If I was really excited by any of it, it would be a different story. 1 Link to comment
FurryFury November 19, 2016 Share November 19, 2016 (edited) Wow, that is SO GROSS about Sara, I had no idea. Hope it will be changed, after all, nothing really explicit has been said or done yet. Can you imagine the outcry if they made a canonically bisexual character only have relationships with the opposite gender? This isn't any better. Edited November 19, 2016 by FurryFury 4 Link to comment
tv echo November 19, 2016 Share November 19, 2016 17 hours ago, Starfish35 said: Crossover sneak peak - the team meets Supergirl (from The Flash episode): http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/18/flash-arrow-legends-tomorrow-supergirl-crossover-video I'm just sad they didn't bring J'onn and Alex too. I can only imagine the group's reaction to J'onn's shapeshifting. Here's the same sneak peek on youtube... Link to comment
Delphi November 19, 2016 Share November 19, 2016 Whelp, I guess I just got interested in the crossover, even if it's just so I can get some Kara. I still do love her after all. Link to comment
BkWurm1 November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 4 hours ago, tv echo said: Building the Legion of Doom seems like a natural fit for the former head of the LoA. He could lure back his minions if he came up with a venue for all those candle and pillow makers to decorate. 2 Link to comment
tv echo November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 It's always interesting to see what scenes The CW chooses to highlight from the past week's episodes... 2 Link to comment
Lily-n11 November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 https://twitter.com/haylee_fisher/status/800374087000485889 1 Link to comment
bijoux November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 Have we heard about Barry and Kara's roles on the Arrow portion? Because I can't remember reading anything about them. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 20, 2016 Share November 20, 2016 Yeah, its in the episode description for 508 (check spoiler only thread) 1 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Interesting choices for who's in the posters. I do like that Sara's in the front. 4 Link to comment
KirkB November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 It makes sense. Supergirl. Flash and Arrow are title characters. LoT doesn't have a single title character, so with Rip (and the probably more widely known Arthur Darvill) gone Sara is the closest thing to a lead the show has. 2 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 I don't know I always got the feeling they were really trying to push Ray (BR) as the male lead (even when AD was on the show). He was always the largest on the posters. Sara was more in the middle and Rip was around the same size or smaller than her. 2 Link to comment
BkWurm1 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Sakura12 said: I don't know I always got the feeling they were really trying to push Ray (BR) as the male lead (even when AD was on the show). He was always the largest on the posters. Sara was more in the middle and Rip was around the same size or smaller than her. I think they tried that last year but this year with Sara the Captain, they've finally given her her due. 2 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 I was just pointing out that even though Rip was the Captain last season he was never in the center or the largest person on any of the posters. Link to comment
wonderwall November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 (edited) IMO, it's an ensemble - everyone deserves their moment in the spotlight for that show. Not just Sara or Ray. Edited November 21, 2016 by wonderwall 5 Link to comment
looptab November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 I think her positioning has more to do with the look the posters get when put side by side - so, the two guys in the center, the two girls at the extremes. 4 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 (edited) I'm assuming it's a balancing act. 4 posters 2 with women in the center and 2 with men. Is Caitlin missing from The Flash poster? Edited November 21, 2016 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
Velocity23 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 (edited) Arrowverse Crossover Will Reveal New Information About Flash’s Future Quote There’s trouble on the horizon for “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow.” Just a few episodes ago, Professor Stein and Jefferson “Jax” Jackson stumbled upon Rip Hunter’s secret room aboard the Waverider. In it, they encountered not only a stash of weapons, but a dire message from the Flash’s future. However, the show hasn’t revealed many details about what that message is — and it won’t, at least until the big “Invasion!” crossover between “Legends,” “The Flash,” “Arrow” and “Supergirl.” During a set visit, Victor Garber — who plays Martin Stein, one half of Firestorm — told CBR and other reporters that Barry Allen would learn of this future message in the big “Arrow”-verse crossover. Asked how his character will continue to deal with this secret message from Barry’s future, Garber said, “It sort of comes out in dribs and drabs. It’s a big mystery and a big deal. It’s a spoiler if I give you too much information, but it’s just part of the whole mystery of time travel and the fact that this is coming from Barry years later and then when he finds out — and that all happens in the crossover, so it just sort of unfolds as these things do on these shows, and lots of things occur in that time period.” http://www.cbr.com/arrowverse-crossover-will-reveal-new-information-about-flashs-future/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list Edited November 21, 2016 by Velocity23 1 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Caitlin's missing from the Flash poster and Nate and Amaya are missing from LoT's poster. Link to comment
Starfish35 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Just FYI, they've asked us to stop embedding Twitter links for the time being. There's an alert about it at the top of the forum. Just thought I'd mention it. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 I was thinking they might have gone with characters on all 3 episodes (Flash, Arrow, LoT). It doesn't really explain Martian Manhunter but, I can't think of another reason to leave Thea and (especially) Caitlin off the posters. 3 Link to comment
bijoux November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 On the one hand, I love that it's OTA on the Arrow poster. On the other, ouch on Willah's account. 3 Link to comment
Primal Slayer November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 She's probably used to beingan afterthought by now 1 Link to comment
bijoux November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 It took me embarassingly long to realize they're all on the steps in front of the same building. 2 Link to comment
thenj November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I'm assuming it's a balancing act. 4 posters 2 with women in the center and 2 with men. Is Caitlin missing from The Flash poster? Quote 2 HOURS AGO, LOOPTAB SAID: I think her positioning has more to do with the look the posters get when put side by side - so, the two guys in the center, the two girls at the extremes. They are also in the same order as the episodes will air in their respective shows. Edited November 21, 2016 by thenj 2 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 More than Caitlin I was thinking Iris is missing from the poster..I understand they had to make a choice but maybe they could have added either Iris or Caitlin with Cisco in the background. 1 Link to comment
lemotomato November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Iris is only going to be in the Flash part of the crossover, though. Link to comment
Primal Slayer November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Let the girl get some respect some time though. We all know that J'onn isnt going to be in any of the crossover yet he appears on SGs poster. 5 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Holy Crap! That's the Hall of Justice from The Super Friends Cartoon 8 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Yeah..if he can be on the poster than I think they can remember Iris exists once in a while. If she wasn't appearing even on the Flash part of the crossover I'd get it. Link to comment
Chaser November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Maybe MM is just decoration. Are we sure Caitlin is in all the crossover episodes? I like the look of the portals leading from one poster to another. Link to comment
way2interested November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Holy Crap! That's the Hall of Justice from The Super Friends Cartoon Yeah, I noticed that too, but the side building also says "STAR Labs," so I guess just a shout-out in image form? Or maybe it is and the explanation is that it's also a STAR labs facility or something? Or I guess that's where the meeting of all of them takes place? Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 21, 2016 Share November 21, 2016 Probably just an Easter Egg. It could also be Star Labs in the present but, LoT goes to the future where it's now called Hall of Justice? Link to comment
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