Season 19 Live Feed Discussion

[lids]

Ok, it's my official last dream scenario for the season:

-Somebody (anybody?) unleashes the 2 veto twist

-Alex & Kevin are nommed with alt plan to backdoor Jason. After Alex and/or Kevin realize Paul didn't keep them from going on the block, they start to get suspicious of Paul and compare notes. Jason could be the go between here showing Paul is saying the same thing to both of them.

-Alex and Jason win veto leaving Raven and Kevin on the block. Or, even better Jason uses his veto to remove Kevin now Raven/Josh or Raven/Paul have to go on the block.

-Raven voted out. Either Jason, Alex or Kevin win HoH.

-If Jason, he noms Paul immediately. Nothing happens at veto. Alex & Kevin vote Paul out.

-If Alex, she noms Josh & Xmas. Josh wins veto. Paul goes up and out.

See Big Brother, you can dance on my nerves, but you can't take away my dreams!

[Michichick]

Christmas plans to buddy up to Alex this week and tell her that Jason is a good competitor and Christmas is taking him out so Alex won't have to do it. Good luck with that, YuletideBadAss.

[carpedi7]

39 minutes ago, RandomWatcher said:

Now that Raven doesn't have Matt in the house, think she'll get really cranky from the lack of sex?

But, but, but according to Mama Munchausen "she's a virgin"

Edited September 1, 2017 by carpedi7

[Lady Calypso]

2 minutes ago, Michichick said:

I foresee a ton of shouty DRs from Paul on Sunday's episode, touting what a genius he is.

At this point, he's playing with a bunch of morons who don't want to play. He kind of deserves to win. 

I'm really done. I don't want Alex, Jason, Kevin, or Raven winning, that's for sure. I don't think Josh should win over Paul because Paul played Josh like a fiddle all season. I also don't really think Christmas deserves to win because she's been carried to the end because people want her in F3 so she can't participate in Part 1 of the final HOH comp. Her social game is marginally better than some, but she's the only other candidate I think I'd be fine with beating Paul. Plus, imagine Paul losing to a girl...again. 

Paul, at least, has been playing the game and has been playing the houseguests to his advantage. It's not his fault that they're not catching on. He's not even being subtle about it. I hate Paul's methods of playing, but his strategy is working on this season's houseguests. 

God; I hate myself for typing this. I'm cool with a bitter jury and Paul losing, but I'm also resigning myself to the fact that I want a gameplayer to win and he's been the only player, since he got rid of every other gameplayer. Josh/Christmas are the only other two kind of playing the game, but not really.

And trust me, I HATE Paul and his method of playing. It sucks and I don't necessarily want him rewarded. But who else should be winning? 

[lids]

I just want someone to unleash the double veto. Do these morons not realize that thing could keep 4 people safe! If it were used by the house guests in the most danger (Jason, Alex, Kevin, Raven), it would force Christmas to put up her own allies for eviction!!! Can you imagine how great that would be? If Paul and Josh had to go up and one of them got voted out on her watch!!!

I need the bullhorn person to relay a really long message over the wall...

[gunderda]

plus side to matt leaving...... raven is no longer wearing crop tops because she's wearing matt's shirts constantly

[gunderda]

Josh asks the outdoor group if they want eggs - Paul is cooking eggs.  Christmas and Alex start spouting off requests.  Josh after awhile goes "don't get picky - this isn't IHop"  lol

[mooses]

How silly that Christmas is willing to take all the heat by letting everyone else act shocked. And how sad that Alex/Jason are definitely that gullible to believe it.

[gunderda]

Downside of Matt leaving.... now we have to listen to Raven have conversations with way more people because she's not secluded with Matt.

[Michichick]

4 minutes ago, mooses said:

How silly that Christmas is willing to take all the heat by letting everyone else act shocked. And how sad that Alex/Jason are definitely that gullible to believe it.

That is silly, same as last week when Jason was willing to take all the heat and pretend the whole house didn't know. Why is everyone so hell-bent on protecting their competitors? Paul does deserve to win. But I hate him and want him to lose. I would find Josh to be the most acceptable winner of the remaining people, though I have to hold my nose to type that. They all stink.

[HurricaneVal]

32 minutes ago, carpedi7 said:

1 hour ago, RandomWatcher said:

Now that Raven doesn't have Matt in the house, think she'll get really cranky from the lack of sex?

But, but, but according to Mama Munchausen "she's a virgin"

I don't know how much she's going to miss it, because (and forgive me for going here), I'm not entirely sure the satisfaction during their hanky-panky was reciprocal.   Matt doesn't strike me as a generous lover.

[Michichick]

Jessica is going to be on The Bold and the Beautiful. http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/big-brother-jessica-graf-bold-and-the-beautiful/amp/

hahahahahaha! Oh gosh I love it that these assholes are going to come out of the house and find out that a pre-juror already taped a TV appearance.

[llewis823]

4 hours ago, Pixiebomb said:

I hope Christmas has a coded message that tells her to get Paul out now.  But knowing this lot it probably says something like "don't trust Kevin". 

I was always under the impression that the letters were written before they even entered the house and they just held them until if/when the hamster won HOH.

[gunderda]

the tree of temptation is open.  They all flip the bird to the tree.  Except Jason.    It looks like he's thinking about it. 

paul says if they would have put money on it, he would have done it right away.

[Michichick]

Alex keeps laughing about how great it will be to see Kevin on the block today. Her downfall will be beautiful.

[gunderda]

11 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Jessica is going to be on The Bold and the Beautiful. http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/big-brother-jessica-graf-bold-and-the-beautiful/amp/

hahahahahaha! Oh gosh I love it that these assholes are going to come out of the house and find out that a pre-juror already taped a TV appearance.

was that her big news she alluded to the other day?

1 minute ago, llewis823 said:

I was always under the impression that the letters were written before they even entered the house and they just held them until if/when the hamster won HOH.

me too.  in previous seasons they could tell the letters werent very current further into the season. 

[Michichick]

1 minute ago, gunderda said:

the tree of temptation is open.  They all flip the bird to the tree.  Except Jason.    It looks like he's thinking about it. 

I'm really afraid that Jason would end up with the bounty or the can't play in HOH. Two vetos is the only really good thing.

[gunderda]

Just now, Michichick said:

Alex keeps laughing about how great it will be to see Kevin on the block today. Her downfall will be beautiful.

sadly if she knows she's going on the block as a 'pawn' we don't see it until MAYBE monday.... 

[CrazyDog]

25 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Josh asks the outdoor group if they want eggs - Paul is cooking eggs.  Christmas and Alex start spouting off requests.  Josh after awhile goes "don't get picky - this isn't IHop"  lol

Lol! He has grown on me.

I agree that Paul could/should win, but I'll hate so much that he'll equal Dan with his record. But the win will always be slightly tainted by the sheer morons he's playing with and his advantages, even though every season has them. But weeks of safety was a big one.

I'll probably tune in for the first time in awhile after noms today, lol. It could be a fun week.

Do they have to take from the tree before noms?

[Michichick]

Just now, gunderda said:

was that her big news she alluded to the other day?

Oh, good thought, that is probably it. I haven't seen her post about B&B yet but maybe she will now that the news is out.

[mooses]

3 minutes ago, gunderda said:

the tree of temptation is open.  They all flip the bird to the tree.  Except Jason.    It looks like he's thinking about it. 

paul says if they would have put money on it, he would have done it right away.

The fact that no one wants a Temptation in FINAL 7 is crazy. Even if Alex/Jason/Raven think that they're not the main target - who do they think the backup is? 

I guess they could be worried they'd get something bad (I don't remember what sort of punishments you can get), but this is something that could save your game!

1 minute ago, gunderda said:

sadly if she knows she's going on the block as a 'pawn' we don't see it until MAYBE monday.... 

But she thinks she's going up against Kevin as a pawn - she's going up against Jason. And Christmas is making it clear in her speech that Jason is the target.

Obviously, we're going to get a big fight where Paul comforts Alex in a corner while Josh goes wild and then cries. Same old, same old.

Edited September 1, 2017 by mooses

[gunderda]

Paul went to check on Kevin - he's moving his stuff out of the have not room. 

He said he wanted to make sure he's ok.  Kevin starts to get a little paranoid. Paul tells him to chill and that as far as he knows, he's not going on the block.

1 minute ago, CrazyDog said:

 

Do they have to take from the tree before noms?

yep - last week they didn't do noms until really late because these morons refused to take an apple and I guess BB was trying to call their bluff.

1 minute ago, mooses said:

 

But she thinks she's going up against Kevin as a pawn - she's going up against Jason. And Christmas is making it clear in her speech that Jason is the target.

ok we NEED this to happen.  Can they do noms like NOW!?!? lol

[Wings]

10 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Alex keeps laughing about how great it will be to see Kevin on the block today. Her downfall will be beautiful.

Oh yes.  It is the only thing I have looked forward to, with glee, in weeks!  

[Growsonwalls]

11 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Alex keeps laughing about how great it will be to see Kevin on the block today. Her downfall will be beautiful.

God she's so vile. There's literally not one nice moment I remember from her all summer. The only time she's happy is when she's berating, harassing, bullhying or trash talking someone.

[mooses]

The more I think about it, the crazier it is that Alex/Jason aren't more paranoid. They just pulled this exact same move last week - pretend Kevin is the target but break up a power pair instead. And, just last week, they acted like no one thought that would happen except Jason when, in reality, he had told them he wasn't putting Kevin up with the Veto.

All the while, Paul's been having one-on-ones with Kevin - not even secretly! And Alex has caught Christmas/Paul whispering alone a couple times.

Also - unrelated, but I wish someone would grab that stupid PETTY hat on their way out the door like Michelle did with Pablo last season.

[Michichick]

Alex has such a huge ego, and she bought into Paul's friendship bullshit. She thinks she's his one true alliance.

[Wings]

Paul- Twitter is where people like to talk shit. Christmas- I dont even go on Twitter. Raven- I dont even have Twitter #BB19

[LGGirl]

Alex is just dumb.  Dumb as dirt.  She is so mesmerized by Paul, I can't even watch her.  I would bet, Jason has a feeling that something is up.  I wish he would take a temptation and production make sure he picks the right one.   Or win Veto. He can stay but Alex needs to go  

[Wings]

Christmas says to ignore the haters, our fans will take care of them for us.   lol

[mooses]

2 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

Alex is just dumb.  Dumb as dirt.  She is so mesmerized by Paul, I can't even watch her.  I would bet, Jason has a feeling that something is up.  I wish he would take a temptation and production make sure he picks the right one.   Or win Veto. He can stay but Alex needs to go  

If he stopped listening to Alex's "just go with the plan!" spiel every time he had an original thought, they might not be in this situation.

I'm betting he'll be embarrassed that he was just seen as her little puppy dog sidekick this whole game. The only time I saw him get actually upset was when he felt like Paul was calling the shots (during Alex's HOH) - I don't think he likes being seen as 'weak.'

[ByaNose]

I'm just curious what will go down with the second eviction. I'm guessing everyone will bend over backwards to save Paul. Usually, everyone runs into the (now Apple) room and pressure the HOH. This is where Andy was able to lie to and make it through the next round. I'm assuming Paul will have a say on who gets nominated. Next Thursday, should be good. I'm still hoping that Jason survives and that Alex goes.

[HurricaneVal]

I think Alex has confused Big Brother  with The Bachelor/Bachelorette, where the #2 finisher gets to come back and be featured in the next season.    Nothing else makes sense.

 

And just because it happened for Paul, Honey, doesn't mean it is going to happen for you.  Paul--though it pains me to say--actually worked hard his first season, and actively had to scramble a few times, and was fairly pleasant enough to have a fan base.  You, on the other hand, have done none of those things and are thoroughly unpleasant.

[gunderda]

If Jason is still around and doesn't win HOH or vet then he probably goes (unless Kevin or Alex are still there and win HOH).  Or they go for the easy casualty of Kevin.

[gunderda]

christmas confirms to raven that a successful week is getting alex or jason out

[MarysWetBar]

21 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

This is me whenever Paul speaks.

I'm even worse. I say " oh STFU, asshole"...everytime. EVERYTIME.

[gunderda]

paul is trying to get christmas worked up over kevin.  telling her that kevin said he can't loose to a girl - it would be embarrassing (in regards to throwing the hoh last night)

paul decides that it would be best if jason goes this week. Alex is worst case scenario but not really a worse case scenario.

[Michichick]

Heh, I just got blocked on Twitter by some Paul stan who thinks Paul is among the top three BB players of all time. He did not care for my reasonably-stated counterpoints to his statements. I've never been blocked before. That was surprising.

I wish noms would happen soon so I could see some of the fallout. Won't have much feed access tonight.

[Ceeg]

Just now, Michichick said:

Heh, I just got blocked on Twitter by some Paul stan who thinks Paul is among the top three BB players of all time. He did not care for my reasonably-stated counterpoints to his statements. I've never been blocked before. That was surprising.

Paul won't even crack the top 15 players for me. And that's only if he wins. If he loses, he's looking at top 50. 

[Lady Calypso]

For me, a strong winner has a lot to do with the people they play against. Paul's playing against complete morons so he's not that good of a player for me. He's good in terms of this season because he's the only one actively playing and making some moves to benefit himself, but he's not a good player in terms of the whole show. 

Also, his tactics are mean and something that does not earn points in my mind. 

[Lamb18]

If Paul was such a great player he would have won last season.

[gunderda]

Raven telling Paul that Alex absolutely knew Jason's plan to not use the veto.  Paul says "Kevin got in Jason's head.. but yea, she probably knew Jason's plan"

Raven also knows that Alex told Kevin that it was probably Raven who threw away his slop. 

[Ceeg]

6 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

For me, a strong winner has a lot to do with the people they play against. Paul's playing against complete morons so he's not that good of a player for me. He's good in terms of this season because he's the only one actively playing and making some moves to benefit himself, but he's not a good player in terms of the whole show. 

Also, his tactics are mean and something that does not earn points in my mind. 

Yup. Honestly, I'd say at least a third of the BB17 cast is better than Paul. Most of the BB18 cast were morons too, and he couldn't even win then either. 

Paul is Amanda from BB15, in a house without people able to recognize the need to or willing to become Exterminators. 

[gunderda]

alex is throwing a fit to jason because kevin is sleeping in his regular bed and he's still a have not until midnight tonight

"he never follows the rules EVER" 

[mooses]

Having to win as a returning player automatically makes Paul less-than for me. All first-time winners would be above him. It's clear a lot of the respect he gets is from being a Vet  (including the advantages, to Alex buying into his Friendship catchphrase, to Raven feeling like they have a special relationship from meeting before this season, to being afraid to go against him because he's America's Favorite). 

Is he playing a good game? Clearly. If he makes it to the end, he deserves to win because everyone else has been playing his game. But the amount he's benefited from being a returning player is immeasurable, so I wouldn't put him in the top tier of winners.

Edited September 1, 2017 by mooses

[NeverLate]

7 hours ago, RandomWatcher said:

Christmas' HOH letter seems to be coded. At least that's the impression I'm getting from Joker's.

Something really really deep, like...

Spoiler

PLAY THE DAMN GAME!!!

[gunderda]

Jason took a 15 min shower - they eventually turned the water off on him lol 

Paul now talking to Alex about Raven... how she won't leave the HOH room... she's eating all Christmas' food.... alex says "yea... she's really stressed out and scared" 

[NeverLate]

3 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Jason took a 15 min shower - they eventually turned the water off on him lol 

Its hard to get the grime off.

[Michichick]

Alex apparently said to Jason that she doesn't think anyone will flip on them. What a fool.

[watch2much]

3 hours ago, lids said:

I just want someone to unleash the double veto. Do these morons not realize that thing could keep 4 people safe! If it were used by the house guests in the most danger (Jason, Alex, Kevin, Raven), it would force Christmas to put up her own allies for eviction!!! Can you imagine how great that would be? If Paul and Josh had to go up and one of them got voted out on her watch!!!

I need the bullhorn person to relay a really long message over the wall...

she has really put on weight, a lot of weight.  was watching after dark the other day and she had a HUGE bowl of ice cream then put about a cup of peanut butter on it, then uncooked cookie dough, then cool whip.  Then shortly after she was lying down with Matt.  That's a big no no with her "condition".  I'm beginning to think the reason they put the stimulator in was because she and her mother told the dr. that nothing else worked and Raven was suffering.  I was stunned by the size and contents of that dish.  The funniest part is that the camera zoomed in to make sure it was being seen by the viewer.

[Growsonwalls]

The more I watch Raven the more I (sort of) feel sorry for her. What I see is an essentially healthy, vigorous young woman who has been raised by her mother to act like a sickly charity case. The way she puts on that death mask makeup, and constantly cries just to have the right amount of eyeliner and mascara running down her cheeks, and talks constantly about her impending death, juxtaposed with her eating almost everything in the kitchen and fridge and having multiple sex sessions per day with Matt, there's obviously a disconnect with how Mama Raven want her daughter to look and act and who Raven actually is. I hope being on Big Brother will make her more independent and make her realize that there are other ways to have people care about you other than talking about death and dying.

I don't like her, but I do feel that she's totally the product of her grifter mom.