S07.E17: From Dogs To Diamonds

[oakville]

On 3/29/2017 at 0:28 AM, Katesus7 said:

Lisa Rinna is the absolute worst and is honestly just stealing from Brandi's playbook at this point. It's not often that I find myself yelling at the TV "bitch, you're straight up making shit up". I mean, it happens, what are you gonna do, but I don't do it that often!

Loved the part with the dogs. I would totally be Eileen in that situation. "So.....can I have this dog? Oh, it will take forever and involve a ton of paperwork? And It's completely ridiculous and not feasible, and I'm getting carried away because of this little face? Oh....."

I was hoping that Eileen would be allowed to adopt the dog. He was a friendly Sharpei!. My pugs were barking at the dogs on the show.

[oakville]

On 3/29/2017 at 5:36 AM, bichonblitz said:

Eden is a strange bird and a lil' creepy but I don't think that woman has a nasty bone in her body. She means well. I hope when Erica looked back at that footage she was embarrassed and ashamed of herself. 

And speaking of Erica, her glam squad gets it wrong almost always. Between the hair styles and clothing choices, they have her looking like ass most of the time. I can't stand the old lady prints they put her in and don't get why she thinks that look is good, I don't care if they are designer duds or not! It's a shame because she really is a beautiful woman. Despite her personality.  

The glam squad is very annoying. It makes Ericka look silly that she needs them to trash the other housewives.

[Lady of nod]

On March 31, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Trooper York said:

Wow. The Erika hate is strong in these here people.

The person at fault is PK. He is a slob and a low life. If your wife's "friend" flashes you it is not something you make a big deal about unless you are half a freaking moron. He pushed this to get his punim on the TV. He is a thirsty son of a bitch. If he paid half as much attention to his lop sided kid as he did to Erika's snatch he might approximate a human being. He reminds me of a whole host of douche husbands who are more interested in getting airtime than in supporting his wife. He just seems to wind her up to get slaughtered. She is going down and will be a one season wonder as so many of them are when they are put in the meat grinder. 

Team Erika.

Lopsided kid? Wow that's low. I see a lot of PK hate here.

[notnowimbusy]

I wish Dorit, at the reunion, when Erika will undoubtedly bring up pantygate, just cooly look over to Erika and say I give Zero F's!  She said she was fine, then she wasn't, then she was - much ado about her P.   Can you imagine if Dorit had accidentally (and it was accidentally) flashed Tom!  OMG Erika would have been all over that - berating Dorit, talking to the Glam Squad about it (and probably in that condescending tone "It wasn't much to look at"), have talked to all the other women - and not in a joking tone, and demanded Dorit apologize to Tom. 

[oakville]

53 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

He drives around a Porsche with those magnetic car doors signs that say,

Ask me about real estate!

The Agency, now hiring

Phone (323-555-1234)

Fax (323 -555-1234)

on Facebook @theagency90210

That's so strange. Isn't "The Agency" supposed to sell high end real estate? It is so tacky to be using tacky advertising techniques.

[ElDosEquis]

4 minutes ago, oakville said:

That's so strange. Isn't "The Agency" supposed to sell high end real estate? It is so tacky to be using tacky advertising techniques.

That was a joke.

His main mode of advertising is on the back of bus stop benches.  ; )

[oakville]

On 3/30/2017 at 6:43 PM, Feline Goddess said:

I realize LisaVP is the client which dictates the look of her parties and even though it always looks gorgeous, it's really not necessarily great PR for Kevin's abilities as a party planner because it always looks the same, no matter the occasion. Pink, pink, pink and crystals. Even the theme for Ken's 70th birthday party was feminine. That doesn't stop me from coveting the table with the crystals hanging from it that was used for the rose launch party. Love. 

I love Mr Chi Chi Chi. He is the key party planner on all the Bravo shows.

[whydoievencare]

11 hours ago, pbutler111 said:

Or maybe knitting.

Yep, I'll be the one knitting.

[HunterHunted]

1 minute ago, oakville said:

I love Mr Chi Chi Chi. He is the key party planner on all the Bravo shows.

Do you mean the best? Because he is. Kyle has her own guy. Atlanta has Dwight and Johnny who is suing Kandi because he set his rate, but not his hours when he worked for her and he invented food and was the inspiration for Kandi's musical "A Mother's Love" the story about a female singer who is part of a girl group and has a contentious relationship with her domineering mother who is meddling in the singer's love life.

[biakbiak]

13 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Do you mean the best? Because he is. Kyle has her own guy. Atlanta has Dwight and Johnny who is suing Kandi because he set his rate, but not his hours when he worked for her and he invented food and was the inspiration for Kandi's musical "A Mother's Love" the story about a female singer who is part of a girl group and has a contentious relationship with her domineering mother who is meddling in the singer's love life.

Johnny is a Renaissance man!

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, oakville said:

I was hoping that Eileen would be allowed to adopt the dog. He was a friendly Sharpei!. My pugs were barking at the dogs on the show.

In her blog Eileen said she tried to adopt the dog but his snout was too short and the flight would have killed him.

1 hour ago, oakville said:

That's so strange. Isn't "The Agency" supposed to sell high end real estate? It is so tacky to be using tacky advertising techniques.

Actually there are two parts to The Agency-they also have a marketing division and people may have noticed they represent Lamborghini.  So they are big on branding and I concur-let's give it a rest.

Edited April 2, 2017 by zoeysmom

[WireWrap]

Just now, zoeysmom said:

In her blog Eileen said she tried to adopt the dog but his snout was to short and the flight would have killed him.

I'm not so sure about her reason. We bought our late Newf pup from a a top breeder out west and he was a short snout Newf that was flown from Missouri to Huston and then on to Pa without any problems. I realize that his flight was much shorter but short snout dogs are allowed to fly. Also, she could have paid for him to fly up in the passenger section of the plane instead of in the cargo hold. I suspect she called Vince, asked him about adopting the pup and he said No. It would have been costly for the flight, no matter where the pup would be located, and then she would also have to pay for the pups quarantine/vet care before she could bring him home to see if the pup and her dog would get along.  

[breezy424]

Well, Mauricio is one of the top realtors in the country and has been for some time now.  He now owns a very successful business.  It's working.  I suspect that The Agency promotion is part of Bravo's desire to include it given they also have Million Dollar Listing LA which includes two agents from The Agency.  I really don't care.  I enjoy seeing real estate porn.  I also like Mauricio.  I think he is extremely smart and loves his wife and children.  Maybe he does say 'awesome' too much but I'd rather hang out with him than PK, Tom or even Ken. 

On another note, I do think Eileen wanted the dog.  I have no reason to believe that Vinnie said no.  Eileen can well afford a flight for a dog whether he's in the hole or the passenger section.  Bottom line is that there were problems and it wasn't in the dog's best interest.   

[AndySmith]

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How long did Dorit say they've been together? How long did Dorit say they've been together?

Not sure, it doesn't seem to say online. Though if Jagger was born in March 2014, then at the very least least June 2013...was Dorit the other woman? Who knows. No sources on when they met. But, it seems they met in New York via mutual friends, although he was living in LA at the time...

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Erika's "40 yesterday" comment was in response to Dorit's completely disingenuous behavior at the luncheon - pretending that she didn't know why Erika would say a musical career at her age is unlikely and calling her a "young girl."

Dorit's comments about suddenly being an expert on what it's like being a 40 would have been like if Kyle or Eileen bought a food truck and after operating it for a month, they started talking to/lecturing LVP about the food and beverage industry like they were an expert at it...

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I suspect that The Agency promotion is part of Bravo's desire to include it given they also have Million Dollar Listing LA which includes two agents from The Agency.

Ah, interesting. I don't watch Million Dollar Listing LA, so I guess good cross-promotion by Bravo. Has there ever been an actual cross-over between that show and RHOBH?

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Bottom line is that there were problems and it wasn't in the dog's best interest.   

I got that impression as well.

[WireWrap]

14 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Well, Mauricio is one of the top realtors in the country and has been for some time now.  He now owns a very successful business.  It's working.  I suspect that The Agency promotion is part of Bravo's desire to include it given they also have Million Dollar Listing LA which includes two agents from The Agency.  I really don't care.  I enjoy seeing real estate porn.  I also like Mauricio.  I think he is extremely smart and loves his wife and children.  Maybe he does say 'awesome' too much but I'd rather hang out with him than PK, Tom or even Ken. 

On another note, I do think Eileen wanted the dog.  I have no reason to believe that Vinnie said no.  Eileen can well afford a flight for a dog whether he's in the hole or the passenger section.  Bottom line is that there were problems and it wasn't in the dog's best interest.   

I do think he would have said no, Eileen even said that he would when she talked about wanting the pup. This is a guy that was unhappy Eileen spent $500 on a dress and it would cost thousands to bring the pup over before they could even find out if their older dog would accept him. That's a pretty costly risk that I don't think Vince would be happy about. I do think she wanted the pup, really wanted him, but her story about short snouted dogs not being allowed to fly is a lie, which was/is my point.

[lunastartron]

Marissa Zanuck has done a guest spot or guest spots on Million Dollar Listing LA when she was negotiating on a property. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by lunastartron

[crgirl412]

They showed Kyle and Mauricio having lunch with the two realtors from MDL- LA.  I forget their names and I watch the show!!!

[breezy424]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

I do think he would have said no, Eileen even said that he would when she talked about wanting the pup. This is a guy that was unhappy Eileen spent $500 on a dress and it would cost thousands to bring the pup over before they could even find out if their older dog would accept him. That's a pretty costly risk that I don't think Vince would be happy about. I do think she wanted the pup, really wanted him, but her story about short snouted dogs not being allowed to fly is a lie, which was/is my point.

It's all a matter of 'opinion'.   Let's start with if the 'older' dog would 'accept' him.  We don't know that.  And 'assuming' that this dog flying is also not a fact.  We don't have the whole story.  And to make assumptions is not fair.  I do think it does go to how someone may 'feel' about Eileen and that is a large influence about how people may think.  That's just not fair IMO.

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, breezy424 said:

It's all a matter of 'opinion'.   Let's start with if the 'older' dog would 'accept' him.  We don't know that.  And 'assuming' that this dog flying is also not a fact.  We don't have the whole story.  And to make assumptions is not fair.  I do think it does go to how someone may 'feel' about Eileen and that is a large influence about how people may think.  That's just not fair IMO.

Most things we talk about here are opinion and/or speculation because we never have all the facts about anything. LOL As for short snouted dogs being allowed to fly, it is a fact! They fly dogs of all breeds around the world for breeding purposes and for high end dog shows. LOL And, it was Eileen speculating that Vince would not want her to adopt the pup, on camera, that supports my "suspicion", I never stated it as fact but said "I suspect" this is what happened. Yes, we do not know if Eileen's older dog would accept him and neither did Eileen as the dogs were never face to face in Eileen's/Vince's house.

Also, even though I do not care much for Eileen, I get her falling for the pup, it is something that happens to me with some (ok, most) puppies.

Edited April 2, 2017 by WireWrap

[zulualpha]

7 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

Handling it with humor would have gone a long way to minimize the pantygate fall out. But I do have to say that when Dorit said "your pretty little puss" I wanted to slap her little smug puss. That bugged me and I don't even hate her or her doughy husband. Gah, how many pages of pantygate are there? Make it stop...

Okay.  Right after this one last thing.

Maybe Erika is going through a rebellious phase with her Dad husband and left the house in a short skirt and no underwear knowing that if Dad Tom found out he would be very displeased.  So when she announced she didn't have underwear on that was risky but still within plausible deniability, like she could say "I was channeling Erika Jane but I really did have underwear on!" if the shit hit the fan at home.  However, things spiraled out of control when Dorit presented her with the panties and the whole who saw what came out.  From what she said in Hong Kong it does seem that she's worried about what effect pantygate is going to have on her marriage and how she's going to explain it to the boss  her husband.

Many many pages back ElDosEquis posted a similar theory with Erika wearing a long skirt and turtleneck to leave the house and stashing the real outfit in a bag by the garage. lol. Same general idea and one of the many reasons Erika gets no sympathy from me on this.  Her marriage to the little old dude is not a marriage of equals, there are rules she has to follow and consequences if she doesn't.  It's creepy.

[WireWrap]

1 minute ago, zulualpha said:

Okay.  Right after this one last thing.

Maybe Erika is going through a rebellious phase with her Dad husband and left the house in a short skirt and no underwear knowing that if Dad Tom found out he would be very displeased.  So when she announced she didn't have underwear on that was risky but still within plausible deniability, like she could say "I was channeling Erika Jane but I really did have underwear on!" if the shit hit the fan at home.  However, things spiraled out of control when Dorit presented her with the panties and the whole who saw what came out.  From what she said in Hong Kong it does seem that she's worried about what effect pantygate is going to have on her marriage and how she's going to explain it to the boss  her husband.

Many many pages back ElDosEquis posted a similar theory with Erika wearing a long skirt and turtleneck to leave the house and stashing the real outfit in a bag by the garage. lol. Same general idea and one of the many reasons Erika gets no sympathy from me on this.  Her marriage to the little old dude is not a marriage of equals, there are rules she has to follow and consequences if she doesn't.  It's creepy.

Hmmm, good point! That might explain why Erika needs a separate apartment from her thousand+ square foot mansion! She dresses one way for Tom when she leaves the house then changes into something more edgy at the apartment! LOL

[AndySmith]

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That might explain why Erika needs a separate apartment from her thousand+ square foot mansion!

I thought it would be for the same reason Yolanda had the condo in LA, keeping a smaller place in the city for when she didn't want to or couldn't drive back to Malibu. Ericka & Tom might have it for the same reason, sometimes it's just easier to stay in LA than go back to Pasadena. Granted, Pasadena is probably a little closer to BH than Malibu, but hey, if you can afford it, why not...

[renatae]

On 3/29/2017 at 7:17 PM, ElDosEquis said:

There was a boy wonder horse jockey named Steve Cauthen.

He was born in the U.S. and went to race in England while he was pretty young. A few years later, he did an interview for a sports show and he had such an accent, I had to make sure he was the same guy. If you weren't influenced by your surroundings and people where you live(d)?

You are probably dead.

We lived in the south for a time, and I took on a bit of a drawl. It wasn't something I had any choice about. Unfortunately, it didn't sound at all authentic and I was always waiting for someone to accuse me of mocking the accent. Fortunately, no one did. I would have been so embarrassed, but as I said, the way the words came out was not my choice.

My husband lived in Australia for a time, and his friends while he was living in Singapore used to call him "the American with the down under accent." By the time I met him several years after his return to the States, he had no trace of it. My poor rendition of a drawl is long gone as well.  But Dorit hears PK's accent every day.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, AndySmith said:

I thought it would be for the same reason Yolanda had the condo in LA, keeping a smaller place in the city for when she didn't want to or couldn't drive back to Malibu. Ericka & Tom might have it for the same reason, sometimes it's just easier to stay in LA than go back to Pasadena. Granted, Pasadena is probably a little closer to BH than Malibu, but hey, if you can afford it, why not...

Yolanda's condo wasn't hers, it was David's condo. He bought and lived there before they met/married.

[AndySmith]

I thought it would be for the same reason Yolanda was using the condo that was owned by her then husband at the time, David Foster (to whom she is no longer married to, btw), who had bought and lived in that very same condo before he met and married Yolanda, ie, keeping a smaller place in the city for when she didn't want to or couldn't drive back to Malibu. Ericka & Tom might have it for the same reason, sometimes it's just easier to stay in LA than go back to Pasadena. Granted, Pasadena is probably a little closer to BH than Malibu, but hey, if you can afford it, why not...

There, we good now on the semantics of who owned the condo that Yolanda was using while she was married to the owner of said condo? Because the whole point I was trying to make hinged on the ownership of the condo ;)

Edited April 2, 2017 by AndySmith

[KungFuBunny]

7 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I'm not so sure about her reason. We bought our late Newf pup from a a top breeder out west and he was a short snout Newf that was flown from Missouri to Huston and then on to Pa without any problems. I realize that his flight was much shorter but short snout dogs are allowed to fly. Also, she could have paid for him to fly up in the passenger section of the plane instead of in the cargo hold. I suspect she called Vince, asked him about adopting the pup and he said No. It would have been costly for the flight, no matter where the pup would be located, and then she would also have to pay for the pups quarantine/vet care before she could bring him home to see if the pup and her dog would get along.  

Agreed. It would have been extremely expensive. Do you remember the Sochi Olympics? Abandonned dogs roam the streets. There are no "shelters" or "dog pounds". They are just shot. An American athlete tried to rescue a bunch of dogs. He was only able to bring one back because it was so expensive. He also did not run into much red tape.

[KungFuBunny]

3 hours ago, renatae said:

We lived in the south for a time, and I took on a bit of a drawl. It wasn't something I had any choice about. Unfortunately, it didn't sound at all authentic and I was always waiting for someone to accuse me of mocking the accent. Fortunately, no one did. I would have been so embarrassed, but as I said, the way the words came out was not my choice.

My husband lived in Australia for a time, and his friends while he was living in Singapore used to call him "the American with the down under accent." By the time I met him several years after his return to the States, he had no trace of it. My poor rendition of a drawl is long gone as well.  But Dorit hears PK's accent every day.

I think she watches Mary Poppins every day

[AndySmith]

Or My Fair Lady.

[KungFuBunny]

15 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Or My Fair Lady.

 

Throw in Jason Statham in Snatch since she's so enamored by EJ's

[WireWrap]

3 hours ago, AndySmith said:

I thought it would be for the same reason Yolanda was using the condo that was owned by her then husband at the time, David Foster (to whom she is no longer married to, btw), who had bought and lived in that very same condo before he met and married Yolanda, ie, keeping a smaller place in the city for when she didn't want to or couldn't drive back to Malibu. Ericka & Tom might have it for the same reason, sometimes it's just easier to stay in LA than go back to Pasadena. Granted, Pasadena is probably a little closer to BH than Malibu, but hey, if you can afford it, why not...

There, we good now on the semantics of who owned the condo that Yolanda was using while she was married to the owner of said condo? Because the whole point I was trying to make hinged on the ownership of the condo ;)

Yolanda was living in the condo because they had rented out the Malibu house. Now did they occasionally stay there to avoid the long drive back to Malibu (before they rented out the house that is), I bet they did and David still used it as a quiet get away to write music. As for Erica's apartment, I doubt that the 1 day a week she/Tom see each other is spent there but who knows. LOL

[motorcitymom65]

On 3/31/2017 at 7:19 PM, WireWrap said:

 

As for PK, I suspect that production urged him/Dorit to discuss "pantygate" the following morning. Kyle said that there is a production member that loves to focus the camera in on panty lines, which suggests that something like this would be a gift from the show gods for production and not to be passed up on as fodder for the show. Heck, even Erika, per her words on WWHL, knew it would become a storyline when it happened. Oh, and he did not make it an issue, he didn't insult Erika, say anything nasty about her nor did he accuse her of intentionally flashing him.

I have an honest question, because I read this a lot about "production" stepping in to ensure that the drama flows according to Bravo's plan, and am sure that it does indeed happen, although I have no idea to what extent. The question is, how do we know when they are inserting themselves into the action and when they are not? It seems like often times the defense that production was involved is given here and there in certain situations, but not in others. How do we know the difference? It is likely that when they were getting mic'd up in the kitchen that some Line Producer said "why don't you talk about Erika and her lack of panties last night". Could have happened. Couldn't it also have happened that someone said to Rinna "hey, why don't you talk about Kim and how her behavior last night made you feel". Could have happened just as the deal with PK and Dorit did. For me, it makes no difference, because they are still the ones who say the words, and if we think that production is inciting this stuff then it taints the whole deal. 

And regarding PK, he might not have said anything negative about Erika's pretty puss (I think the problem for Erika was that he did just the opposite), but he was right there nodding his head and agreeing when Dorit was talking about "wouldn't you think that someone who didn't want to flash would cross her legs, or put a napkin over her lap" (paraphrasing)? She was indicating in that scene that Erika knew what she was doing and did it anyway, and he certainly said nothing to make me think he didn't agree. 

[motorcitymom65]

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

 

On another note, I do think Eileen wanted the dog.  I have no reason to believe that Vinnie said no.  Eileen can well afford a flight for a dog whether he's in the hole or the passenger section.  Bottom line is that there were problems and it wasn't in the dog's best interest.   

Yes, it is a real thing. My MIL wasn't allowed to fly with her pug (on a transatlantic flight that only allowed dogs in the cargo section). There is actually a list of dogs that are not allowed to fly on many airlines in the cargo area because there have been so many deaths.  The dog Eileen was trying to adopt is on the list. It probably sounds better and makes Eileen less likeable, however, to assume her vicious husband wouldn't let her have it then that there are real reasons involved and that she cared enough about the dog to hope it had a chance at life. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/bulldogs-banned-airlines-health-risks_n_1003495.html

[noveltylibrary65]

8 hours ago, zulualpha said:

Okay.  Right after this one last thing.

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[oakville]

13 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Do you mean the best? Because he is. Kyle has her own guy. Atlanta has Dwight and Johnny who is suing Kandi because he set his rate, but not his hours when he worked for her and he invented food and was the inspiration for Kandi's musical "A Mother's Love" the story about a female singer who is part of a girl group and has a contentious relationship with her domineering mother who is meddling in the singer's love life.

Mr Chi Chi Chi is LVP's best party planner. He was also on the Million Dollar Listing NY wedding show in Greece. I think he is hilarious.

[zoeysmom]

38 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I have an honest question, because I read this a lot about "production" stepping in to ensure that the drama flows according to Bravo's plan, and am sure that it does indeed happen, although I have no idea to what extent. The question is, how do we know when they are inserting themselves into the action and when they are not? It seems like often times the defense that production was involved is given here and there in certain situations, but not in others. How do we know the difference? It is likely that when they were getting mic'd up in the kitchen that some Line Producer said "why don't you talk about Erika and her lack of panties last night". Could have happened. Couldn't it also have happened that someone said to Rinna "hey, why don't you talk about Kim and how her behavior last night made you feel". Could have happened just as the deal with PK and Dorit did. For me, it makes no difference, because they are still the ones who say the words, and if we think that production is inciting this stuff then it taints the whole deal. 

And regarding PK, he might not have said anything negative about Erika's pretty puss (I think the problem for Erika was that he did just the opposite), but he was right there nodding his head and agreeing when Dorit was talking about "wouldn't you think that someone who didn't want to flash would cross her legs, or put a napkin over her lap" (paraphrasing)? She was indicating in that scene that Erika knew what she was doing and did it anyway, and he certainly said nothing to make me think he didn't agree. 

As it pertains to Pantygate-I would think there was probably some chatter about Erika's flashing by the camera crew-from what Kyle has said they aren't shy about getting "the shot".  It was probably pretty tame until Erika announced she wasn't wearing any underwear-and then it took on a life of its own.  So perhaps it is a simple as talking about it with production before they start shooting about what happened the night before or who was at the party. 

With Rinna and Eden, Eden was the one who brought up her cold reception from Kyle.  I don't think Rinna needs a lot of prompting.  She does have a sixth sense, ya' know.

Dorit's problem is she can say what she saw, she doesn't have to give the preachy, what a lady would do stuff.  I agree with PK you can't put your head on another's shoulders. 

There is a huge scandal over on RHOA that allegedly some pretty strong allegations, which made their way on to the airwaves were started by the Executive Producer.  According to the rumor, at the Atlanta Reunion, one of the woman revealed her source of the rumor as the EP.  So I guess there are varying levels of production interference.   

[oakville]

13 hours ago, ElDosEquis said:

That was a joke.

His main mode of advertising is on the back of bus stop benches.  ; )

I watch the Million dollar Listing LA show. He makes appearances on that show & has two smarmy British agents working for him. I am shocked that he would have such aggressive types working for him.

 

I like Mauricio, but I don't know why he's become a walking billboard this season for his real estate agency. It's unprofessional. He sells high end properties whose clients probably want to be discrete.

I do think that Mauricio & Kyle have the best marriage along with Ken & Lisa.  Those two couples should have their own show. The best episodes of the season were visiting the Mexico homes that Mauricio was trying to sell.

[zoeysmom]

Erika woman of few words about her meltdown had this to say:  "It's great that it's Eileen that I exploded on, quite honestly, because the others would've held it over my head and used it.  Seriously."  http://www.realitytea.com/2017/03/31/erika-girardi-explains-better-explode-eileen-davidson-instead-rhobh-cast-members/    Wow, way to take everyone out with one fell swoop.  I saw it this way Eileen had to put up with her self-absorbed, trashy ass because she had already invested so much in the Y&R scene.  Claims of Erika having done all this bonding with Kyle or Rinna remember her words, they are simply "the others" and what she thinks of them.  Situational friends and stooges for the Erikas.

I would also disagree Erika was pushed.  Rinna was driving the bus trying to run over Dorit and Erika decided to get out of the bus and try and hold Dorit down and it backfired on Erika.  It was interruption after interruption by Erika.  Rinna hardly had enough time to try and destroy Dorit because of all of the Erika interruptions.  Erika and Rinna share the same characteristic they just have to keep going and going when they have been dealt a blow in a "discussion" or argument.  Most of the time it is better to just shake it off and stay silent.  Then if the other person gloats you can use that against them.

If I were at the table and been subjected to Erika's rant and meltdown, I would think she needed to apologize to everyone for such a undignified display in public.  It is up to "the others" to accept her rationalization or simply acknowledge she apologized.   

[oakville]

On 3/31/2017 at 7:19 PM, WireWrap said:

Seriously, "hate"? I, for 1 may not care for Erika but I certainly don't "hate" her. I find her behaviors arrogant and hypocritical but not to the point of hate. She can make me laugh and at times I kind of like her but most of the time she is a hypocrite. IMO, 99% of those that dislike her do not hate her. There are a fair number here that do not like LisaV and often point out her flaws/post smack talk about her but I don't see those of us that like her call her detractors "haters". We need to stop parroting TeresaG's battle cry of anyone that disagrees with a HW as a "hater"! LOL

As for PK, I suspect that production urged him/Dorit to discuss "pantygate" the following morning. Kyle said that there is a production member that loves to focus the camera in on panty lines, which suggests that something like this would be a gift from the show gods for production and not to be passed up on as fodder for the show. Heck, even Erika, per her words on WWHL, knew it would become a storyline when it happened. Oh, and he did not make it an issue, he didn't insult Erika, say anything nasty about her nor did he accuse her of intentionally flashing him. The only ones that took this to that level were Erika's friends, Eileen and Rinna, not Dorit or PK for that matter.

I don't hate Ericka. I think this group of ladies is better behaved than on RHOC or RHONY. This group tends to have "manufactured" crisises over fake illnesses or addictions. There haven't been any bankrupticies. I think the last major crisis was when one husband committed suicide after being faced with domestic abuse allegations against his RHOC wife. Her name escapes me now but I think she was from Oklahoma.

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I have an honest question, because I read this a lot about "production" stepping in to ensure that the drama flows according to Bravo's plan, and am sure that it does indeed happen, although I have no idea to what extent. The question is, how do we know when they are inserting themselves into the action and when they are not? It seems like often times the defense that production was involved is given here and there in certain situations, but not in others. How do we know the difference? It is likely that when they were getting mic'd up in the kitchen that some Line Producer said "why don't you talk about Erika and her lack of panties last night". Could have happened. Couldn't it also have happened that someone said to Rinna "hey, why don't you talk about Kim and how her behavior last night made you feel". Could have happened just as the deal with PK and Dorit did. For me, it makes no difference, because they are still the ones who say the words, and if we think that production is inciting this stuff then it taints the whole deal. 

And regarding PK, he might not have said anything negative about Erika's pretty puss (I think the problem for Erika was that he did just the opposite), but he was right there nodding his head and agreeing when Dorit was talking about "wouldn't you think that someone who didn't want to flash would cross her legs, or put a napkin over her lap" (paraphrasing)? She was indicating in that scene that Erika knew what she was doing and did it anyway, and he certainly said nothing to make me think he didn't agree. 

I think production's interference tends to be slightly overblown. The Dorit and PK scene was probably outlined for the two of them to talk about cocktails and the party. I think that production thought it was equally likely that Dorit and PK would talk about Erika inserting herself in the British joking or Erika's lack of underwear. Generally, I think the brief from production is to "talk about Event A and your impressions of everyone in attendance." This would explain Eden talking about how cold she found Kyle.

Right now on the show, Erika only has Dorit's recounting of PK's reaction to rely upon. All of this was filmed in July. Erika hasn't seen the footage yet. Given that Erika has her own issues with being thought of as a whore, slut, or gold digger, I think she's imagined that PK's reaction is worse than what it was. Erika is already falsely remembering things Dorit did not say. I'm sure Erika is imagining the crassest reaction on the earth coming from PK.

1 hour ago, oakville said:

I don't hate Ericka. I think this group of ladies is better behaved than on RHOC or RHONY. This group tends to have "manufactured" crisises over fake illnesses or addictions. There haven't been any bankrupticies. I think the last major crisis was when one husband committed suicide after being faced with domestic abuse allegations against his RHOC wife. Her name escapes me now but I think she was from Oklahoma.

It was Taylor "Shanna Hughes Ford" Armstrong. I don't know that we've ever known what the reasons were for Russell's suicide. They had money problems, domestic violence issues, and the spotlight from the show.

Edited April 2, 2017 by HunterHunted

[oakville]

17 hours ago, Anne Thrax said:

Yep.  Tacky as shit to accept a gift, immediately seek out its price, and then snark that it didn't cost enough (I found it interesting that LVP and Erika agreed it was a fine gift when they thought it cost $1,700!).  Says a lot about who Erika really is.  Not that her behavior hasn't been telling us all along this season.

And IMO it was really pathetic of Eden to have bought it for Erika in the first place.  Does Eden have too much money or something?  Erika already made it clear to Eden she didn't want to play with her.

That was very embarrassing. You should never ask how much the gift cost. Just be nice & accept it & say Thank You.

[KungFuBunny]

On 3/29/2017 at 1:20 PM, AndySmith said:

Definitely the first thing I thought of when I saw Dorit's gold leaf thingie on her head...

Daenerys Stormborn might have dragons, and Erika might have the Glam Squad…but Dorit has Khal Drogo as a hair consultant

Then again, Erika Jayne has Mustafa as the victory curls advisor

Conclusion: EOS - Equal Opportunity Snarkfest

[oakville]

17 hours ago, Jel said:

Early on in the season, Erika interrupted Dorit to say..."You're from Connecticut!", in a kind of insulting tone.  I don't remember how the back and forth started between those two, but I thought Erika actually started it. And "you've been forty for a week!". Was that the same evening? Anyone recall?

Dorit was speaking with a british accent  yet grew up in the USA. That is so odd. How did she get that accent?

[AndySmith]

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Now did they occasionally stay there to avoid the long drive back to Malibu (before they rented out the house that is), I bet they did and David still used it as a quiet get away to write music. As for Erica's apartment, I doubt that the 1 day a week she/Tom see each other is spent there but who knows.

Was referring to whether or not she used it to see Tom. Just that, just as Yolanda might have used the pad to stay there occasionally to avoid the drive back to Malibu (especially after dinners/parties being held in BH and Bel Air), it's just as possible that Ericka does the same to avoid driving back to Pasadena.

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if we think that production is inciting this stuff then it taints the whole deal. 

Production probably is involved, to various degrees. These shows haven't been "real" for a while. If anything, it does tend to be used to justify/defend/condemn a HW or husband based on one's feelings towards that person ;)

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Daenerys Stormborn might have dragons, and Erika might have the Glam Squad…but Dorit has Khal Drogo as a hair consultant

Maybe a dragon shat a giant gold egg on Doritos head?

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, oakville said:

Dorit was speaking with a british accent  yet grew up in the USA. That is so odd. How did she get that accent?

I don't know if this answers it but from Dorit's twitter account:  Try having Israeli parents, living in Italy for  ten years and marrying someone from the UK. 

So in essence English was a second language growing up.  It doesn't matter what reason she gives as she is simply not allowed to have it because it offends others.  Sadly, for Dorit by not getting help for her speech affectation I believe her words are given less weight.

This from a show where we are expected to just accept a RH has two personalities and it is up to the others and viewers to decided what personality she is currently presenting.

[zoeysmom]

For those who haven't read their latest issue of FLAUNT magazine Erika has an interview and a photo:  http://www.flaunt.com/content/people/ericka-jayne

Seems Erika has no real girlfriends from the show.  I always find it interesting when someone claims another person or class of people are judgmental.  Isn't claiming others as being judgmental, in fact being judgmental.

It all has a happy ending as Erika and some of her inner circle retire to the bathtub after an exhausting interview and photo shoot. 

So I am confused, have any of the women on the show earned an Erika friendship badge? 

[Anne Thrax]

On 3/29/2017 at 9:05 PM, breezy424 said:

On another note:  Jagger is two?  Three?  And Dorit speaks to him like he's much older.  Break it down to toddler understanding.  Don't get me wrong.  He's very cute but if you want your son to 'speak' then break it down to language he understands.  It totally annoyed me.  Yeah Jagger, what is your 'opinion' on how mommy looks?  How about a little insight on your part Dorit.

The only way I can describe Erika is 'hard'.  Her glam squad feeds her so she doesn't have to show her true emotions.  They 'are' her best friends.  She must be screaming at herself for that break down in Hong Kong.  It's all kind of sad.  She puts on this front with the 'c' necklace, etc.  but after a while you can see the insecure person that hides behind that front.  And then there is the ego boost she got last season from Gaga and other celebrities who thought she was so great. 

She decided to do DWTS because of that 'ego' boost and the reaction isn't quite what she expected.  Nope.  People aren't buying you.  They see you as raunchy and trying to play a pathetic 'role'.

Having raised three to adulthood, I have to say I didn't have to break it down for them.  I used words that I would normally use with anyone, and I think children who are exposed early to more complex words have larger vocabularies and better speech skills.  At his pre-K registration event, my youngest at age 4 used the word "obviously" when the teacher was engaging him in a little conversation. 

It seemed to me that Jagger did understand what Dorit was saying to him, but he's definitely quite delayed at speech.  In fact, the first few times Jagger was onscreen, I thought he might have profound hearing loss or cognition problem or might just be slow, but noticed in later episodes that he seems bright and able to hear things fine.

[KungFuBunny]

2 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

For those who haven't read their latest issue of FLAUNT magazine Erika has an interview and a photo:  http://www.flaunt.com/content/people/ericka-jayne

Seems Erika has no real girlfriends from the show.  I always find it interesting when someone claims another person or class of people are judgmental.  Isn't claiming others as being judgmental, in fact being judgmental.

It all has a happy ending as Erika and some of her inner circle retire to the bathtub after an exhausting interview and photo shoot. 

So I am confused, have any of the women on the show earned an Erika friendship badge? 

[KungFuBunny]

24 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Was referring to whether or not she used it to see Tom. Just that, just as Yolanda might have used the pad to stay there occasionally to avoid the drive back to Malibu (especially after dinners/parties being held in BH and Bel Air), it's just as possible that Ericka does the same to avoid driving back to Pasadena.

Production probably is involved, to various degrees. These shows haven't been "real" for a while. If anything, it does tend to be used to justify/defend/condemn a HW or husband based on one's feelings towards that person ;)

Maybe a dragon shat a giant gold egg on Doritos head?

It was Halloween. The doorbell rang. Dorit opened the door. Happy costumed children yelled Trick Or Treat! Oim, sore ray but I don have eh nee Kon dee. So they pelted her with eggs.

Dorit cleaned up and the doorbell rang once again. What happenned next is what inspired her reunion look

[Anne Thrax]

On 3/30/2017 at 11:09 AM, ElDosEquis said:

I just had an amazing thought.

Kyle could have easily and evenly cut the hems on whatever she was wearing.

 

Someone would need to teach her how to use a ruler, first?

Plus, she was cutting the bottoms while the legs were lying the wrong way  You're supposed to match up the side seams, as if you were going to iron in creases.  Then cut across both legs at once in a straight line (not always easy with some fabrics, especially denim).  She had the legs flattened out and cut them in that position, which results in a sort of elliptical edge, not straight across as it should be. 

Someone must have re-cut them, because when she had the jumpsuit on, the bottoms did look straight and fairly even.

[AndySmith]

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Dorit was speaking with a british accent  yet grew up in the USA. That is so odd. How did she get that accent?

She was obsessed with Guy Ritchie-era Madonna?