S13.E05: Both Sides Now

[Nobodysfan]

Love Joluca scenes!

The only two people I can enjoy on this show currently.

Plus baby Harriet, she gives better performances than some of the actors.

In some of the scenes I was worried how McKidd was holding that baby, I felt like she was going to get hurt.

I really can´t stand Owen and his obsession with kids, felt a relief just like Amelia that she is not pregnant. His only life mission on this planet is to impregnate a woman with his semen and every woman must be nothing but thrilled to deliver his child, I bet he will force Amelia to constant baby production from now on.

Edited October 21, 2016 by Nobodysfan

[Good Queen Jane]

4 hours ago, LucyHoneychrrch said:

7 hours ago, NoReally said:

Question from not-a-doctor: When they do a liver transplant from a living donor, they obviously only take a portion of the liver, so why couldn't they split the astronaut's liver in half and give one piece to each recipient?

This was my question too. Why couldn't they have split Granny's donor liver?

I had this same question. Then I went to Wikipedia, my go-to medical resource (after Grey's of course), which stated "In a typical adult recipient LDLT, 55 to 70% of the liver (the right lobe) is removed from a healthy living donor. The donor's liver will regenerate approaching 100% function within 4–6 weeks, and will almost reach full volumetric size with recapitulation of the normal structure soon thereafter. It may be possible to remove up to 70% of the liver from a healthy living donor without harm in most cases. The transplanted portion will reach full function and the appropriate size in the recipient as well, although it will take longer than for the donor."

So it appears that a cadaver liver can't be split since the recipient needs most of it. A living donor can give more than a half portion since the living donor will regenerate the remaining liver in his/her body within a few weeks.

[Gladrags]

10 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I also hated the whole "man doesn't know how to deal with a baby until he miraculously turns into Mr. Mom" storyline with Owen. It's so cliche and uninteresting. And how does Owen, the chief of surgery or trauma or whatever his exactly title is these days, have nothing to do all day so he can just hide in various rooms with Harriet?

The scenes with Owen not knowing what to do with baby Harriet (who is the cutest little button!) were silly, because we've seen him keeping baby Zola happy and occupied, and we've seen him bonding with that soon-to-be orphaned kid. He clearly knows what to do with a tiny human. ( heh )

6 hours ago, Greysaddict said:

I agree that its coming...the thing is, this was episode 5 (!!) so like when are they going to start addressing it.  I gave them a pass on episode 1, episode 2, then episode 3 but now I'm just getting angry.  This is mostly rhetorical.  I'm sure you are right and there will be some big random blow-up in the mid-season finale leaving us with another cliffhanger that will be dropped when they resume, again.  yay.  Sorry I am not directing this to you I am just annoyed by this entire storyline.  

Meh, in a way it mirrors real life. Alex' trial is going to take forever to start. No matter how swiftly the Constitution guarantees a fair trial, the wheels of justice turn painfully slow. 

[jaync]

Loved Granny June!

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Speaking of DeLuca, he looks remarkably healed from being beat up within an inch of his life in the premiere.

Jackson is a miracle worker. There should be a line of patients a mile long wanting him to lay hands on them.

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Meredith is a surgeon and part owner of the hospital who has been there for 10+ years and well aware that drugs aren't in the supply closets. She's such a bitch throwing it in Amelia's face.

Wow, I missed that part. WTF, Mere?

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Is it end of October in the greys universe too.

Yes, and even later than real time - the date on Amelia's phone was October 29th.

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Plus baby Harriet, she gives better performances than some of the actors.

It really did appear that she cried on cue. I also like that she looks age appropriate. Good job, casting.

[WhosThatGirl]

We've also seen Owen do well with Sophia as well. He's always liked kids. Him being all befuddled didn't make sense, I agree.

Also yes I sadly agree with everyone else that I think we are doomed for at the least a Alex/Meredith kiss or something more. Apparently everyone on this show had to hook up once. 

[lorbeer]

Who had this pint of joy and satisfaction when Jo realized she just sucks as a doctor? :)

Amelia is just so irritating and it was quite predictable she wouldn't be pregnant. But then again I thought they were going to go with it because you can see the actress is pregnant already.

I honestly thought gradma was going to die in the end.

[Ohwell]

12 minutes ago, lorbeer said:

I honestly thought gradma was going to die in the end.

So did I, and I thought Meredith would somehow, someday find a way to throw it in Bailey's face.  I'm so glad grandma lived to bake more snickerdoodles.

[lorbeer]

1 minute ago, Ohwell said:

So did I, and I thought Meredith would somehow, someday find a way to throw it in Bailey's face.  I'm so glad grandma lived to bake more snickerdoodles.

I realize Meredith is quite bitchy and bitter but she's been my favourite character since the very first episode so I wouldn't hold that against her. :)

[flickers]

This is the third episode in a row that April has seemed seriously over being a mother. Babies are boring, they don't talk back to you (duh) and they never sleep. I don't think they're going for a PPD storyline with her, so it's probably just careless writing, but it's weird. Does Jackson suffer at all?

It was upsetting to me that Amelia is now unsure of whether she wants to have kids, after agreeing with Owen last season that they both wanted a bunch. I cannot go another ten rounds of this. She's obviously going to change her mind so can we just skip ahead to that part already? And writers, if you're going to torture me with a shit-ton of Omelia, could you please at least put in some other more interesting stories to hold my attention. I get that they have to pay lip service to the idea of being a "medical drama", but that liver story, my goodness what a snooze. The highlight of the episode was Deluca wearing a scarf.

Edited October 22, 2016 by flickers

[OtterMommy]

Most of my thoughts on this show echo what has already been said, but I will add this.  In addition to this being a filler episode (one that I found mostly pleasant, thanks to some snappy dialogue), it was also probably the most predictable Grey's episode I had ever seen.  Youngest looking critically ill 80 year old I've ever seen is finally getting her liver, but a younger, more "urgent" person needs it, but luckily a super healthy in all ways but one guy is going under the knife.  Yeah, I could see how that was going to work out a mile away.

I did appreciate the break from the Alex/Jo drama and I think the show needed the break from that plot.  I also enjoyed (more than I thought I would) the trio of Mer, Alex, and Maggie.  That combination just works better than Mer, Alex, and Amelia or Mer, Maggie, and Amelia for me.  (No, this is not because I dislike Amelia--I have no feelings either way about her...I just think that her character and Mer's don't mesh as well).

I was irritated by whiny Jo in this episode (normally I am just as neutral about her as I am with Amelia).  It just seemed really out of place that she would be so concerned about her place in the pecking order (which seemed to be Stephanie and then everyone else) when all that OTHER stuff is going on in her life.

There was also a WTF moment for me with Maggie, when she went up and announced in front of Andrew (should probably quit calling him DeLuca, now that I finally know what his name is!) and Jo that Stephanie was the best intern.  It was not just out of character for her, but it was totally in character for another character--Cristina, although she probably would have said the "least embarrassing" intern instead of "best" intern, or something like that.  Nothing that Maggie has done so far in this series would indicate that she would be that way towards anyone, including the interns.  However, I enjoyed Maggie the rest of the episode, so I'm willing to let that slide...

I have decided that I DO like Riggs, but only when Meredith is nowhere around.  Not only do I not see those characters working well together and I don't understand the attraction, the whole "ignore that the woman says no because YOU HAVE TO HAVE HER" trope really, really irritates me.

[Maharincess]

20 hours ago, ForeverAlone said:

Yeah, that is another thing. The idea that Seattle is so freaking hot this time of year is utterly ridiculous. It kept taking me out of the episode every time a character would complain about the heat and lack of air conditioning. 

That and while everyone is complaining about how horribly hot it is, Harriet is wearing a sleeper, wrapped in a blanket with a hat on her head. 

[Lamima]

I will say...I like DeLuca and Jo together- as in shipping them. It works. I also like Mer and Riggs. I like April and Jackson...oh, Jackson. He is sooo beautiful. April, Jo and Maggie bug me with the over acting. But I like the couple stories. Maggie, I like this week with her wanting to steal Stephanie. Keep with that and stay away from the love interest stuff as it just doesn't work. Amelia is tiring but the actress is good. I wish they'd get away from all the inner turmoil with her. And, for goodness sakes, Owen needs some things to go well for once.

[BeckyThatcher]

If I were Jo, I'd watch making jokes about alcohol's numbing effects to DeLuca. 

[statsgirl]

15 hours ago, Greysaddict said:

I thought that Amelia told Owen about her baby in the chapel after Samuel (Japril's first baby) died.  Does anyone remember that?  She definitely told someone and I thought it was Owen.

yes, I think it was Owen.  She was telling him that April just needs his quiet support and acknowledgement of her loss.

It's too bad they didn't have Amelia and April talking about what it is like to lose a just-born child. That would have been the kind of cutting-edge stuff this show used to pride itself on and a great deal more interesting to me than Meredith being bitchy yet again to Amelia.

[Reghan]

On 10/20/2016 at 11:13 PM, Greysaddict said:

btw, i think I need an new name, i am barely making it through the episodes these days let alone addicted. lol

That's why I made my name, my name haha

[DearEvette]

13 hours ago, OtterMommy said:

There was also a WTF moment for me with Maggie, when she went up and announced in front of Andrew (should probably quit calling him DeLuca, now that I finally know what his name is!) and Jo that Stephanie was the best intern.  It was not just out of character for her, but it was totally in character for another character--Cristina, although she probably would have said the "least embarrassing" intern instead of "best" intern, or something like that.  Nothing that Maggie has done so far in this series would indicate that she would be that way towards anyone, including the interns.  However, I enjoyed Maggie the rest of the episode, so I'm willing to let that slide...

Stephanie is a Resident.  So Andrew's feelings about that comment are  irrelevant because he is an intern.  But she did turn to Jo and say "you weren't supposed to hear that."

Frankly I am glad the show is carving out that identity for Stephanie being so good as a doctor since there has been so very little effort at delving into creating a real character life for her.  She's been on the show, what, four seasons?  And the only real personal information we know about Steph is that she once had sickle cell and was a head cheerleader.  Since it seems to be so damn difficult for them to write her any sort of character development, or a romance, or anything really outside of just being a doctor then I am fine with them making her a "best".  Good for her I suppose.

[Maukie99]

The episode was good. Only as a Merthan fan I would have liked more Merthan scenes of course, or at least a Merthan scene to the end. But you can not have it all. But it was gesat that in the 5 episodes not much passion between Merthan will happen, only in the 6 episode. So I'm curious what's going to happen. Maybe Meredith and Nathan then have sex with each other again or kiss again. There must be something happening !!!!!

In any case, I was confirmed. Amelia is not pregnant. But she was also happy not to be pregnant, because of her past, since she was pregnant, but her son (she was a boy, or?) Died shortly after the birth. And she is also afraid to get pregnant again. I think anyway it will be difficult for Amelia to become pregnant because of her past.

Only Owen was confirmed in his opinion, he wants a baby since he has watched on Harriet, well she wept in the beginning much because she did not know him but afterwards it went then. And Alex can do well with children and the specialist for babies is we know. And funny, I also found the scene with Owen, Nathan and Harriet, well that there is Youtube, there I look at the scene more often. I thought Nathan would not want or wanted children, but on the contrary, he likes children very much and wants a bunch of children.

Well the Meredith has 3 kids. I can not wait to see what's going on, but I can not wait to see what's going on , Which is also too sweet. I mean, why should Owen want a baby and want to become a father, can be the same with Nathan, or not?

Well, at least Harriet was the highlight of the episode for me. I fell in love with her.

And what I liked was the Maggie times more serious and not like a 14-year-old schoolmate. I found her good as she went to Edwards and so. Only Bailey annoyed me. Well that the patients of Meredith then the transplant had received. After the sister of her, had found out that she was pregnant.

Well, by and large this was a great result. And not to forget how I was happy April is finally back again. I only wish Merthan and Japril.

[funnygirl]

So let me get this straight. If Andrew is still an intern, that means everything that's happened since season 11 episode 23 when he first showed up has been within a year? 
April came back from Jordan, got pregnant some time later, carried to term, and Meredith's attack and recovery, and Callie meeting and then leaving for Penny, and Andrew fully recovering from a "serious" beat down all happened in that time. And since Andrew is still an intern and the residents are still residents, that year is still going. 

To quote the old/better Grey's Anatomy, seriously? April's pregnancy and delivery alone proved 9 months went during part of season 12. And Andrew must have healed in a week. I know the timeline has always been screwed up on this show, but even this one is a stretch. 

[DearEvette]

30 minutes ago, funnygirl said:

So let me get this straight. If Andrew is still an intern, that means everything that's happened since season 11 episode 23 when he first showed up has been within a year? 

Yeah, I was surprised by that too and thought he was definitely moved into Residency by now.  It hasn't been a year?  But in the first ep of S13, Stephanie says "we'd all like to beat up on interns" so I think canonically he's still an intern.

[windsprints]

I saw this posted on twitter re: the timeline.  I guess they're just ignoring the almost year time jump after Derek died to have the year match now yet still have it be part of the story that she was gone for that year. Its so dumb because it would have been easily avoidable - don't keep showing specific dates on screen.  We all know the timeline is a joke but when they show exact dates it stands out more.

[kingshearte]

On 10/20/2016 at 11:22 PM, windsprints said:

I think she was relieved not to be pregnant. She seemed to shift completely when Meredith said she didn't have to tell Derek about Ellis because he was dead. Instead of infertility I think she'll want to put off having kids for awhile and that will cause tension between she and Owen.

lol GreysIMuddleThrough

Oh good. I've been so desperately missing hearing Owen whine about not having babies...

And I will definitely echo others' questions about why he was so awkward with that baby. And it wasn't that the kid wouldn't stop crying; that happens. But how on earth did it take him so long to figure out how to hold her properly? Unless he was just using her for some strength training? Holding a baby at arm's length like that will very quickly become exhausting.

On 10/20/2016 at 11:55 PM, ForeverAlone said:

When Granny wouldn't give up her liver to the younger woman, I was convinced the sister was going to have an abortion so she could donate part of her liver (since that seemed like an appropriate Grey's story twist). But instead, there was the liver ex machina with the astronaut dying in surgery and being a perfect match. 

I kinda thought that too, and actually, I really liked the actor's performance in that role. I feel like there was a lot of subtext from her that was never made explicit, just from her acting. When Meredith told her she was pregnant, you could almost see her considering terminating so she could save her sister, but then deciding against it in a way that almost seemed like they'd been trying and having trouble, so she just wasn't prepared to give it up after waiting so long.* I could be reading more into it than necessarily intended, but I do feel like the actor brought a lot of extra subtext. It was nice.

* If intentional, it's also kind of an interesting parallel with Granny June also having waited for so long and not wanting to give that up.

On 10/21/2016 at 0:17 AM, chocolatine said:

I also thought Amelia's angst was about her first baby having had a fatal disorder. Has she ever even told Owen? In any real life relationship this would have come up when they discussed trying for a baby, but this is Grey's, so yeah. (I also thought that she would have told April when April was going through a similar situation with her first pregnancy, but April seemed surprised when Amelia mentioned her first pregnancy.)

If I had been on a transplant list for three years, I sure as hell wouldn't have given the organ to someone else when it was finally my turn, unless that someone else was a member of my family.

She definitely told Owen last week. Possibly also earlier, during the Samuel situation, but if it was indeed Owen she told then, the writers evidently forgot. But she definitely didn't tell April at that time. I seem to recall that she was advocating giving April some space or something to that effect because that's what she wanted when she was in a similar situation, and she was following her own suggestion. It would have been nice to see a little more between them about that shared experience, though. Maybe we'll get a moment sometime, like the one between Meredith and Nathan a few weeks ago about their dead spouses.

Also, I agree on your second point. The way Meredith was all "whatever; she'll just have to wait a few more weeks" was like, hello? She's been waiting for three years. Do you really think the odds are good that another suitable liver is just going to show up in a few weeks? Please.

[KaveDweller]

10 hours ago, kingshearte said:

She definitely told Owen last week. Possibly also earlier, during the Samuel situation, but if it was indeed Owen she told then, the writers evidently forgot. But she definitely didn't tell April at that time. I seem to recall that she was advocating giving April some space or something to that effect because that's what she wanted when she was in a similar situation, and she was following her own suggestion. It would have been nice to see a little more between them about that shared experience, though. Maybe we'll get a moment sometime, like the one between Meredith and Nathan a few weeks ago about their dead spouses.

I think she told Owen about having a baby that died during the Samuel situation, but I don't think she told him the details of her boyfriend dying then. That's what she told him last week. So, the writers could actually remember something.

It's kind of weird that Owen wouldn't have asked for more details about the baby dying once they were dating though. Or when they were married and talking about possibly having kids last week.

[Spiderella2]

On October 21, 2016 at 4:37 PM, flickers said:

This is the third episode in a row that April has seemed seriously over being a mother. Babies are boring, they don't talk back to you (duh) and they never sleep. I don't think they're going for a PPD storyline with her, so it's probably just careless writing, but it's weird. Does Jackson suffer at all?

It was upsetting to me that Amelia is now unsure of whether she wants to have kids, after agreeing with Owen last season that they both wanted a bunch. I cannot go another ten rounds of this. She's obviously going to change her mind so can we just skip ahead to that part already? And writers, if you're going to torture me with a shit-ton of Omelia, could you please at least put in some other more interesting stories to hold my attention. I get that they have to pay lip service to the idea of being a "medical drama", but that liver story, my goodness what a snooze. The highlight of the episode was Deluca wearing a scarf.

I noted this as well. Kepner barely took a maternity leave. Oh well, I guess now that she has proved that she is a normal, blessed woman, Harriet can go off to whatever invisible boarding school Meredith's children are at. Once she is done being a plot prop of course. 

To me, Amelia is not unsure that she wants kids. She does want kids, a lot of them. But there is something More complex going on. it seems like Amelia has some unspoken issues with being pregnant and possible PTSD. With her last pregnancy, she had relapsed and was doing hardcore drugs when the baby was conceived. The baby ended up with no brain. Her junkie boyfriend at the time OD'ed and she found out she was pregnant shortly thereafter. The pregnancy motivated her to get clean, and even though the baby had no brain (anacephalic), she carried to term in order to donate all the babies' organs. She had a real delivery and went through the entire pregnancy essentially by herself (+PP/Addison). She didn't even tell her nuclear family she was pregnant. Which itself must have been extremely traumatic.  After that horrible period in her life, she moves on, starts dating again, moves to Grey-Sloan and starts over. So she has baggage...tons and tons of unpacked baggage. 

I'm thinking that although theoretically she wants kids, she doesn't know if she can conceive and carry a real baby. She must have fears about that, and since she never talks about anything deep going on with her, she hasn't delved into her feelings of pain, grief, anger, and possibly even a warped belief that she can't carry a real baby. She also probably holds a karmic debt to the issues in her past, the fact that Derek is dead, any of the myriad mistakes in her life. She is just realizing all those emotions and has yet to process them. Hopefully Owen and his ticking baby-wanting self don't scare her off. If she opens up to someone (perhaps Kepner?), she could sort out all her feelings. Instead she has compartmentalized and buried it down deep. 

Hopefully she gets counseling. Hopefully it doesn't drive a wedge into their marriage. But it's good fodder to explain what millions of women who had angel babies (babies that die before or after birth) go through all around the world. 

[Spiderella2]

On October 21, 2016 at 8:02 AM, PreviouslyTV said:

A sweet old granny and young fit jogger both need a kidney, and only one is available. Also, Amelia is pregnant.....maybe.

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#1 it's s liver transplant, not renal or kidney transplant. Hate to be a stickler.

How many people figured as soon as you saw Astro Andy that he was going to die and have a perfectly matched liver? When the fans can write the show, it's time to do better Writer's Room. I loved when Granny said no to giving up her place in line. Her family seemed stunned and shocked at her blatant refusal, but honestly, I probably would have done the same thing. 

 I miss Callie. Her one liners and quips would have been comedic gold in this dour episode.

And Meredith is becoming more and more like Ellis Grey. Putting her job over her kids, even though she has others who she could have delegated to watch the patient.  If a liver became available, UNOS would have called her cell anyway. She didn't have to stay overnight on a liver vigil for her patient. Doesn't she have 3 kids wondering why mama isn't tucking them in? Who picked them up from the 24hr daycare? An invisible nanny. (I still strongly believe they are all away at boarding school)---there is no other explanation. If Mere even has a motherly bone in her body, she could have zipped home, fed them dinner, tucked the kids in, grabbed a nap, and come back once the kids were asleep...but of course, no mention of her kids during this impromptu and unnecessary overnight liver-watch vigil. 

Is Stephanie going to become a double board certified Heart & Neuro Surgeon....is that even possible? If so, beast mode! Get it Stephanie. Do something brilliantly amazing with your life, since (according to the writers of this show), you don't have one.

[DEL901]

On ‎2016‎-‎10‎-‎20 at 9:50 PM, Gladrags said:

Amelia looked pretty relieved that the stick said she wasn't pregnant, and seemed awfully apprehensive beforehand. 

Nevermind.  Just read the rest of the thread.

Edited October 23, 2016 by DEL901

[Muffyn]

Finally watched the episode.  Unpopular opinion, I hated Granny June.  I didn't hate her for not giving up the liver.  I hated her character before that.  You know how those critically ill people are always crocheting and taking care of others and baking cookies bigger than your face.  Heck, you get a call that there's a liver available and you need to get to the hospital, tell 'em to  cool their jets; you have cookies to bake for the doctors.  I hated her pushing her granddaughter(?) to hug DeLuca.  Consent matters, granny.  Is she rating the desirability of all men for her granddaughter?  Isn't it her choice? 

[Pinecone]

And I would love a long, thought out and plotted arc on Amelia's emotional issues re: dead child and moving on. And I don't even like Amelia! Emotion! Realism! Nothing getting tied up in two episodes and never mentioned again! 

 

This summer on r/relationships, there was a thread where someone who had received an organ transplant from a sister who was now getting a divorce because she'd aborted a pregnancy in order to donate. I know that place is fiction bait, but that was what came to mind with the Chelsea and Chandler situation. 

[flickers]

I read that you would need to wait around 6 weeks after an abortion to have any kind of surgery, let alone something major as an organ donation. Her sister only had 24 hours. Otherwise, yeah, I would think that termination would have come up as an option. 

[BaseOps]

On October 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, funnygirl said:

So let me get this straight. If Andrew is still an intern, that means everything that's happened since season 11 episode 23 when he first showed up has been within a year? 
April came back from Jordan, got pregnant some time later, carried to term, and Meredith's attack and recovery, and Callie meeting and then leaving for Penny, and Andrew fully recovering from a "serious" beat down all happened in that time. And since Andrew is still an intern and the residents are still residents, that year is still going. 

To quote the old/better Grey's Anatomy, seriously? April's pregnancy and delivery alone proved 9 months went during part of season 12. And Andrew must have healed in a week. I know the timeline has always been screwed up on this show, but even this one is a stretch. 

I mean, the first three seasons were a single year on Grey's. That means that within a year, Izzie dated the hockey player, got with Alex, broke up with Alex, fell in love with Denny, cut his LVAD, got engaged, Denny died and then she fell in love and had an affair with George. Within that year, George met and fell in love with Meredith, dated Olivia, got syphalis, slept with Meredith, met and married Callie, then cheated on her with Izzie. He also lost his father that year. Cristina, within a year, met Burke, got pregnant, lost the baby, he got shot, they covered up his tremor, got engaged, and he left her at the alter. Meredith lost her mother and stepmother, reunited with her father, discovered a step-sibling, met and fell in love with Derek, discovered he had a wife who he then got back together with. She dated Finn, slept with George, got back with Derek, had her hand on a bomb, nearly died after drowning in a ferryboat accident - all within a year. Grey's has never been good with time. 

[funnygirl]

Right, but in this current supposed "year", April got pregnant and had a baby which is a clear marker for 9 months, and Andrew got the crap beat out of him and healed in, what... two days? 

Most of that stuff from seasons 1-3, while a bit suspect with time, could've happened days/weeks later, no problem. Especially with people sleeping and getting with other people. Had April not just come back from Jordan and go through conceiving and then a full-term pregnancy, followed by an intern completely healing after severe "inch from his life" facial injuries, this wouldn't be such glaring of an issue.  It's no wonder why they haven't mentioned how much time has passed between the incident and now, unlike say when Callie was in the hospital and her recovery episode spanned 12 weeks. 

But YMMV I guess. 

Edited October 24, 2016 by funnygirl

[Biggie B]

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 Unpopular opinion, I hated Granny June.  I didn't hate her for not giving up the liver.  I hated her character before that. 

Me too. Perhaps not "hated" her - but was really, really turned off by what seemed to me to be an extremely fake cheeriness. I found it completely unreal and weird. And the constant applauding by the family really annoyed me. One's illness is not a game show.

[hks]

I also think part of the problem is the writers not knowing what to do with Stephanie. They don't seem interested in giving her any development outside surgery or any love interest so I guess making her the bestest resident ever is the only way to give her significant airtime.

 

On 10/22/2016 at 8:58 AM, DearEvette said:

Frankly I am glad the show is carving out that identity for Stephanie being so good as a doctor since there has been so very little effort at delving into creating a real character life for her.  She's been on the show, what, four seasons?  And the only real personal information we know about Steph is that she once had sickle cell and was a head cheerleader.  Since it seems to be so damn difficult for them to write her any sort of character development, or a romance, or anything really outside of just being a doctor then I am fine with them making her a "best".  Good for her I suppose.

I dunno. They gave her that story line with Wilmer Vadlararamama, which I thought was pretty decent.  She got to show some range there.  Although, if no one remembers it, maybe it didn't have resonance?  But Stephanie's my favorite character, hands down.  (She and the non-existent Arizona.  Is she nearly off the show? I miss her).   I like that she's the best doctor, and I can't wait until she gets a real long-term love interest. 

I also can't wait until Amelia and Owen drive off a damn cliff.  I really hate her and want her off the show. I don't quite hate him yet, but it's getting close.  I don't care that she wants a baby but she's afraid, and that he wants one, and it's going to be a big rift when she gets pregnant, because my god, is she going to be insufferable about it.  If she's already driving me crazy about just TAKING a damn pregnancy test, what is she going to be like every single damn day of the pregnancy. Omg, please kill her. 

[Tara Ariano]

On 10/23/2016 at 2:44 AM, Spiderella2 said:

#1 it's s liver transplant, not renal or kidney transplant. Hate to be a stickler.

You're right: sorry about that. The post has been corrected. Speaking of which: in case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Old Ladies Get Their Due On Grey's Anatomy

A sweet old granny and young fit jogger both need a liver, and only one is available. Also, Amelia is pregnant.....maybe.