S08.E03: Ruffled Feathers

[thewhiteowl]

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Team Nunez seeks revenge in the next Flash Challenge and an artist betrays Team Beck in their first Elimination Tattoo.

[zxy556575]

Wow, five hours for the sand sculpting? That made my eyebrows pop. Even though some people have turned out incredible art over the seasons, I still don't really like non-tattoo flash challenges, or think they're fair.

I was actually nervous that Ryan or Gia was going home because I think they have a lot more to show.  It was nice to see a few of the contestants being supportive of each other even if it was kind of girl power fluff. The female artists are very good this season and I'm hoping to see some amazing work (which there definitely was not tonight).

The producers deliberately choose/encourage some canvases who want far more work than it's possible to do in the time allowed, and that sucks for the artists and ultimately the canvases themselves who are stuck with hasty mishmashes. Not to mention things like demanding an orange-red color palette on a peacock, for crissake.

I looked up photos of peacocks because a lot of the heads on the tattoos looked small and out of proportion to me, but apparently they are pinhead birds.

[azshadowwalker]

What a shitty episode, maybe the worst ever. Tito sucks donkey balls last week, and gets rewarded with the opportunity to fuck over someone this week. And, surprise, he goes after a woman. Dickless Dave was bitter last week about the women actually getting the team moving so they could, y'know, win. This week, he shows his fragile masculinity again by going after the women, brags about it, then says they're whining and he thought they would be up to it. He's a piece of shit. Production didn’t make him act that way. He stepped right up for that dance. 

I was very happy to see the women stick together across teams. I am not going to belittle their support of each other. Women need to support each other, considering that men have been helping each other get ahead forever. That's especially true in a male-dominated industry like tattooing. Nikki, Kelly, Ryan and Gia kick ass, and I am pulling for all four of them. 

Ugh. I just can't get over that Peck's team was up for elimination simply because they didn't suck last week. Who came up with this shit? I hate it even more than I hate Dickless Dave and Tito, which is saying a ton. 

[Charlesman]

I just wanted to quote the nightmare canvas for posterity: "The only thing I really care about is the location. And the size. And then, like, the color scheme. As well as the realism of the head." Gia's squinty faced reaction to this Pythonesque 'Our only weapon is fear. And surprise.' routine was awesome. 

 

And what's up with all the criticism of Rabinowitz for not 'looking out for the team'? What was he supposed to do? Not assign the canvas to anyone? How is this team game supposed to work? Everyone hates it when it's them on the line. But Ryan was already talking about all the girls sticking together. So her sudden pearl clutching about betraying the team is bogus. 

Everyone is in it for themselves and getting butthurt when someone else isn't pulling for them to win. Of course, idiots. That's what's going to happen. 

[hkit]

22 minutes ago, Charlesman said:

And what's up with all the criticism of Rabinowitz for not 'looking out for the team'? What was he supposed to do? Not assign the canvas to anyone? How is this team game supposed to work? Everyone hates it when it's them on the line. But Ryan was already talking about all the girls sticking together. So her sudden pearl clutching about betraying the team is bogus. 

Everyone is in it for themselves and getting butthurt when someone else isn't pulling for them to win. Of course, idiots. That's what's going to happen. 

I really didn't understand the outrage either. "I'm on your team! How can you fuck me over like that?" - it would have been true for anyone he gave that canvas to. I liked Ryan and Gia up to this point, but the entitlement turned me off here. 

I think it would be a lot more fun (and potentially lead to more drama) if there is an extra canvas when a team has to assign their own skull pick. Then whoever has the skull pick actually has an advantage. They can choose to not assign the worst canvas. Or, they can use it as a tool to go after someone they don't like. 

For the unreasonable canvas, I don't know why Gia wasn't more forceful. She pointed out in a talking head that it was a 30 hour tattoo, but there was no evidence she tried to convince the canvas of this. Unreasonable people may suddenly become reasonable if they realize that they will only get 1/4 of the tattoo completed to their vision, and when they walk out the door, they are on the hook for thousands of dollars of work. I have a feeling we'll be seeing this canvas on Redemption one day. 

[azshadowwalker]

 Dickless Dave waving to the other team and saying, "You're welcome"  after he screwed Ryan and Gia, and then gloating about what he had done,  wasn't at all personal. Him talking specifically about screwing them over wasn't at all personal. It was just the game. It was also purely coincidence that he went after the women, whom he bitched about last episode when they pulled the team together while the men stood around dithering.

It wasn’t really about assigning the canvases. It's about two straight weeks of him making it pretty clear that he has problems with women, and his asshole behavior when and after he did it. I hope those four women steamroll his loser ass. 

Of course, the dude got to choose his own canvas and still did a shitty tattoo. Maybe he should be afraid. He can't even turn out a good tattoo when it's stacked in his favor because he built a fucking sandcastle. A sandcastle, ffs! 

Not sure exactly how the women saying they wouldn't fuck each over other has anything to do with him, either, even if he had any idea. If his team is assigning to the other team, it doesn't matter to him whether Nikki and Kelly are taken care of. If the other team is assigning to his team, Nikki and Kelly are just two of an entire group calling the shots, and it doesn't mean they assign him something difficult just because they look out for Ryan and Dia. Of course, if he acts like an asshole, maybe they do fight harder and specifically go after him. So, nice move, asshat. Now, no matter how skull assignments are made, you have two people gunning for you. I am going to laugh and laugh if this bites you in the ass. 

As for what was said to the canvases, we see very little of it. Ryan mentioned the time element. There's every reason to believe that it was discussed, but the canvas was a fucking idiot. Based on the way these two fools talked before skull picks, both were being stupid about it. I mean, I am not sure what the artists are supposed to do. Tell the canvas to go fuck herself? I would like to see it, but we know where that leads. It sucked for Ryan and Gia, but I am kind of pleased that both of them ended up with crap tattoos after refusing to listen,  especially the one who smarted off about how an ink master should be able to do it. Idiot. 

After a season of relatively inoffensive people and a really cool winner, this asswipe comes along. I am really closing in on being done with this show. I guess Anthony's popularity didn't prove to them that assholes are not required. 

Edited September 7, 2016 by azshadowwalker

[Kelda Feegle]

3 hours ago, Charlesman said:

I just wanted to quote the nightmare canvas for posterity: "The only thing I really care about is the location. And the size. And then, like, the color scheme. As well as the realism of the head." Gia's squinty faced reaction to this Pythonesque 'Our only weapon is fear. And surprise.' routine was awesome.

 

Fear, surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to the Peck?

 

The people politics part always shits me so I will content myself with just saying - I would have had none of those peacocks tattoos on me, ever.

[Honey]

Oh boy is Dave ever going to pay for being an asshole, and I cannot wait to see it.  True that he had to assign the difficult canvases to someone, but he did not have to be an douche about it.  Whining??  Hate him.

I think it was Boneface who did the closeup tattoo, and I think he should have won. The detail was amazing.

[TaraS1]

I still have absolutely no idea how the rules for this season work.

And granted, I don't have tattoos or know anything about them, but if I specifically wanted a peacock tattoo, the main thing I'd want it to feature would be the colorful, gorgeous tail feathers, not a giant head.  

[TattleTeeny]

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The producers deliberately choose/encourage some canvases who want far more work than it's possible to do in the time allowed, and that sucks for the artists and ultimately the canvases themselves who are stuck with hasty mishmashes. Not to mention things like demanding an orange-red color palette on a peacock, for crissake.

I hate this for so many reasons! Anyone who's been tattooed a bunch already, like many of the canvases we see on this show, knows perfectly well that you can get only so much in X amount of time--or rather, you can get only so much good work in X amount of time. And for those of us with many tattoos who are watching the show because of our interest in tattoos, or even those without any at all who just love the art form, it stinks--we all want to see amazing work, no? I do like seeing the rare negotiations that happen between a tattooist and canvas (my tattoo guy better not refer to me as such!) addressing time and size, though it seems like the show itself discourages this, and even wants the canvas to act unreasonably*. I'd rather see an artist do good work, if unfinished in the case of outlandish expectations/demands, with the promise to complete it later, or at least skillfully leaving it at a logical stopping point that can easily be taken over by another tattooist in the future. It's even more infuriating that the judges cooperate with this when they are lifers in the tattoo business--they know perfectly well that six hours is not enough for what that one peacock lady wanted, for example! In real life, no good artist would stake his business and reputation by promising something like that in only six hours (and believe me, I wish it was possible; I hate having more than one session for a tattoo--I want that thing done in a sitting...but I also want it beautiful, which is ultimately more important. Also, a tattooist is not a robot, s/he is a person--hands do get tired, as do eyes. Do you really want your artist pushing through these things in discomfort just because you're impatient? Because if so, I'm betting you'll be sorry later!).

I get it's a contest, and that time management plays a huge role in it (the same issues apply to Project Runway...but it's not permanently marking people's skin we're talking about, and the artists on PR are dealing only with themselves and fabric, not the variable of a person in a chair). But is this a race or a competition about good tattoos? I would prefer the latter. 

I don't actually mind the out-of-the-norm palette for the peacock. As long as the peacock is readable as a peacock, why not if you prefer those colors? (I have a wolf wearing a crown for no reason other than I liked the idea of it, so don't go by me, haha!)

* I have a very tattooed friend who was on an episode and she told me that they basically made her ask for an unreasonable amount of work for the time frame. 

Edited September 7, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[zxy556575]

The spiteful part of me took some satisfaction that the most demanding canvas had to be photographed naked in order to show her entire tattoo.*

Looks like the show is bent on keeping the teams equal in numbers, but this process pits teammates against each other again. I do like that one team gets a break each episode; it's good for them and for  viewers since there are too many artists right now to devote sufficient time to each of them.

What would make the artists happy with skull picks, anyway? Do they believe the hardest tattoos should be given to the weakest artists to force them out? That is blatantly unfair to the canvases, first of all, who nobody on this show gives a shit about. There's also no guarantee it will work, i.e., Stone Face in this ep turned out a nice tattoo and wasn't anywhere near the bottom.

Why not give the most technical challenges to the best tattooers? If it was me, I'd honestly try to match the request to each artist's talent. Deliberately trying to hobble another contestant by assigning a tattoo completely out of their comfort zone is not only petty but in the end, a stupid strategy. Try bringing out the best in each other and themselves for a change. Like that'll ever happen on any reality show ...

 

 

* Or maybe it's just me who would be humiliated. This woman may have liked the attention.

Edited September 7, 2016 by lordonia

[TattleTeeny]

Maybe I'm a wacko but in competitive reality shows (like this and PR, not competing for a love interest or even in Survivor), I'd be happy with just "here's your assignment; let's see who's the best." No teams, no gimmicks, no drama--just straight-up art!

[Charlesman]

What I would have loved to see Dave do,  when told he wasn't being "fair to the team" in regards to the canvas assignment, would have been in front of everyone, say: "Yeah, Gia? Who should have gotten that canvas? You tell me. Boneface? Ryan?  Point them out now." That would have shut her down or gotten whoever she called out as more deserving of the trouble canvas on his side. 

[Charlesman]

36 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Maybe I'm a wacko but in competitive reality shows (like this and PR, not competing for a love interest or even in Survivor), I'd be happy with just "here's your assignment; let's see who's the best." No teams, no gimmicks, no drama--just straight-up art!

While more pure, it would probably get boring quickly. As Tom says on Top Chef, it is a game. If they were really looking for 'who's the best chef', they would just go to everyone's restaurant, order something off the menu, and pick a winner. The point is the game itself, and seeing who performs best within the construct. Likewise, if they were just looking for the best tattoo artist, they'd just show up at everyone's shop and critique their photo books of past tattoos and crown a winner. Not much show there. 

[TattleTeeny]

Yeah, maybe not for others, but I'd like it. But I'm someone who, according to my my sister, would eagerly watch a documentary about a button factory, so...

Edited September 7, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[krawz555]

This show bugs. I agree about just seeing the art of the tattoos and skip over all the hatred for each other. And....I LOATHE  when the camera continually cuts away to reactions of the contestants who either look like a) shocked and awed or b) shaking their head "no" I'm complete disagreement when someone gets praised. It's either a great tattoo or it isn't. Would it be so terrible to agree and say, "Yeah, they did do a decent job."  You rarely, if at all, hear any encouragement or praise from one contestant to another. Why not?? Why all the hate and disgust?? Does the show think that's what makes "good tv?" It's doesn't. Makes me forward through those parts so I just watch the actual tattooing and the judging.

[candall]

20 minutes ago, krawz555 said:

b) shaking their head "no"

It cracks me up when they zero in on another competitor silently indicating his utter disbelief or his vehement disagreement with the judge's assessment.

The editors probably pre-film a whole set of "response clips" so they can be slipped in at will.

**********

I missed this episode, grrr.  Is Spike TV so rich with programming, they can only find time for Ink Master on Tuesdays?

[psychoticstate]

I also don't understand the rules this season and have decided that the rules are there ain't no rules, to quote Grease.

It seems so far we are being subjected to asshole after asshole, whether it's the inktestants or the canvases.  Inktestant Dave is a douchebag but I don't understand the outrage over assigning the most difficult canvases to Ryan and Gia.  Would there be such pearl clutching if he had assigned those two canvases to two male inktestants?  I'm a woman and I like the female alliance but I think Ryan and Gia were off in being offended at getting those canvases.  No, it wasn't fair compared to some of the others but clearly Dave thinks they are a threat.  And unfairness in canvases is an IM trademark. 

I'm really not invested in any inktestant.  I can't remember some of them or tell them apart.  I think having them on teams makes it worse.  I hate that not every inktestant is tattoing each week; that's what I watch the show for. 

I love non-inktestant Dave.  I still miss Josh.  He, Anthony Michaels and Cleen Rock would wipe the floor with most of these people.

[TattleTeeny]

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I still miss Josh.

I do too. And he was impressive in his ability to firmly yet kindly guide the canvas toward a more feasible challenge for him.

[Fex]

11 hours ago, Charlesman said:

I just wanted to quote the nightmare canvas for posterity: "The only thing I really care about is the location. And the size. And then, like, the color scheme. As well as the realism of the head." Gia's squinty faced reaction to this Pythonesque 'Our only weapon is fear. And surprise.' routine was awesome. 

 

And what's up with all the criticism of Rabinowitz for not 'looking out for the team'? What was he supposed to do? Not assign the canvas to anyone? How is this team game supposed to work? Everyone hates it when it's them on the line. But Ryan was already talking about all the girls sticking together. So her sudden pearl clutching about betraying the team is bogus. 

Everyone is in it for themselves and getting butthurt when someone else isn't pulling for them to win. Of course, idiots. That's what's going to happen. 

Yes, I actually laughed out loud at that canvas' speech. All I want is everything! 

I did not like Rabinowitz, and thought he was being a sexist jerk, BUT totally agree. Someone had to do those tattoos! No betrayal there.

10 hours ago, hkit said:

I think it would be a lot more fun (and potentially lead to more drama) if there is an extra canvas when a team has to assign their own skull pick. Then whoever has the skull pick actually has an advantage. They can choose to not assign the worst canvas. Or, they can use it as a tool to go after someone they don't like. 

 

I always thought I didn't like the drama on this show, but I looooove this idea. It's kind of wonderfully evil...

[TaraS1]

1 hour ago, candall said:

It cracks me up when they zero in on another competitor silently indicating his utter disbelief or his vehement disagreement with the judge's assessment.

The editors probably pre-film a whole set of "response clips" so they can be slipped in at will.

My favorite weirdly edited reaction this week was when judge Dave simply says that the flash challenge will test precision, and it cuts to contestant Dave (I think that's his name) saying, "What?!" like they'd just been asked to tattoo blind while being shot out of a cannon.  

[AlliePK]

I don't like that Ollie's team was up for elimination simply... because?  No.  Everyone should be participating in a team Flash whatever, then the losing team goes to the elimination tattoo.   So, is Nunez' team automatically up for elimination next week?  I'm confused.  Also, I didn't see Ryan as bitching as much as Gia was.  She just kind of said it sucked that she got stuck with the canvas she did, but she also took full responsibility for not controlling the canvas better and for not managing her time well. Gia was looking for every and any excuse she could for why her tattoo wasn't great.  In the end, I think they sent the right tattooer home.

[Charlesman]

2 hours ago, AlliePK said:

I don't like that Ollie's team was up for elimination simply... because?  No.  Everyone should be participating in a team Flash whatever, then the losing team goes to the elimination tattoo.   So, is Nunez' team automatically up for elimination next week?  I'm confused. 

I agree this is weird. I think, but I'm not sure, that both teams will be in the Flash challenge again next week, with the 'losing' team up for elimination in that episode, and the 'winning' team up for elimination in the next episode. Then, three episodes from now, both will compete again in a flash challenge. But it's certainly an odd way to do it.

If that's how it goes, it's does make the flash challenge slightly more important, if you do well on both. It appears that after the first flash challenge, the winning team chooses skull assignments vs the other team as a group, then the next week, the solo winner can assign skulls solo against his/her own team. So, basically, win the first flash challenge and finish at the top of the second lets you have lots of control over who gets which canvas for both teams.

[Honey]

29 minutes ago, Charlesman said:

I agree this is weird. I think, but I'm not sure, that both teams will be in the Flash challenge again next week, with the 'losing' team up for elimination in that episode, and the 'winning' team up for elimination in the next episode. Then, three episodes from now, both will compete again in a flash challenge. But it's certainly an odd way to do it.

If that's how it goes, it's does make the flash challenge slightly more important, if you do well on both. It appears that after the first flash challenge, the winning team chooses skull assignments vs the other team as a group, then the next week, the solo winner can assign skulls solo against his/her own team. So, basically, win the first flash challenge and finish at the top of the second lets you have lots of control over who gets which canvas for both teams.

I have read this 3 times and I still don't understand it.  It's not you, it's me.  Long day.  :)

[Inkmaster0345]

Hello all, first time posting about this season. 3 episodes in, I'm not sure what to make of the format. The whole idea of teams doesn't seem to translate very well in my opinion. Each team starts as a group of 8, but for the first 6 challenges it will be a free for all among a specific team that week until it is narrowed down to 5v5......uh, and then what? Are there going to be an overload of head to head challenges at that point? Will there be more large scale tattoos in which the whole team participates? The problem with teams in ink master is that the eliminated artist is eliminated based on how their work stacks up compared to the other tattoos that day, but it's unclear how that will be done later in the season as the numbers dwindle. Will a losing team be forced to match up against themselves again, or will there be head to head showdowns between artists on opposing teams with the loser going up for elimination? Unclear. 

Some of the early dynamics playing out this season aren't the most appealing to me. Yes Dave seems to be a bit of an ass, but with that said I'm also not a fan of the "girl power" agenda that the producers are clearly pushing this season. There have been seasons in the past in which there were multiple talented female artists, but those artists never really banded together. And yet here we are at week 3 and all of the girls have decided that they're in it together? Not buying it, it doesn't feel organic and seems like it was set from the start. It's really a shame because these 4 appear to be among the most talented females to ever compete on the show, it would be nice to see them dominate based on merit alone without the female alliance storyline looming over their heads. 

Didn't like the tattoos this week (peacocks? ok I guess) and I don't like how the tattoo challenges have been so specific thus far. I'm hoping that as the competition picks up some steam that this will change. 

I will however say that I'm very pleased with the overall talent level this season. Of course there are still 2-3 meat shields on each team that need to be weeded out. But after that I think it will be an incredibly competitive final 8-10 artists. Will this be the year that a female takes it? Ryan certainly seems to be getting a lot of screen time and internet buzz (which definitely benefited Anthony last season) and was a number 1 pick. She has to be the female (and one of the overall) odds on favorites at this point.

[Apatee]

Pretty disappointing episode. Flash challenge was ridiculous, the elimination tattoos were pretty bad. Half the peacocks looked like they were shitting out their feathers.  I thought Boneface's was pretty nice though, would've chose him as the winner. I always find the "alliances" irritating and the girl power one is gonna get annoying fast. I hope every week isn't them complaining about the men on the show. This might be the strongest female cast so far and it would suck to see them perceived as whiners. I would guess Ryan is at least making the final, she gets like 20 minutes screen time every episode. Looking forward to what she'll do from here on out.

[Honey]

I like Ryan, she seems level headed so far, and despite this week's tat, she's very talented.

[zxy556575]

9 hours ago, Honey said:

I like Ryan, she seems level headed so far, and despite this week's tat, she's very talented.

She also has the most angular jawline I've ever seen on a human. I'm fascinated by it.

Specializing in black and gray is one thing, but her (amazing) portfolio has almost no color, which could be her undoing here. There were other difficulties this week besides color, but she really fell apart outside her comfort zone.

Edited September 8, 2016 by lordonia

[azshadowwalker]

23 hours ago, AlliePK said:

Also, I didn't see Ryan as bitching as much as Gia was.  She just kind of said it sucked that she got stuck with the canvas she did, but she also took full responsibility for not controlling the canvas better and for not managing her time well. Gia was looking for every and any excuse she could for why her tattoo wasn't great.  In the end, I think they sent the right tattooer home.

Wasn't Gia the one who also had to deal with Tito's hurt feelings? Having Tito and Dave both taking their fragile masculinity out on you back-to-back can't be fun. 

[psychoticstate]

5 hours ago, Apatee said:

Pretty disappointing episode. Flash challenge was ridiculous, the elimination tattoos were pretty bad. Half the peacocks looked like they were shitting out their feathers.  I thought Boneface's was pretty nice though, would've chose him as the winner. I always find the "alliances" irritating and the girl power one is gonna get annoying fast. I hope every week isn't them complaining about the men on the show. This might be the strongest female cast so far and it would suck to see them perceived as whiners. I would guess Ryan is at least making the final, she gets like 20 minutes screen time every episode. Looking forward to what she'll do from here on out.

I am trying so hard not to LOL and have everyone stare at me.   The bolded part has me snorting.

I agree that Boneface (so wanted to type Bonehead) had the best tattoo.  Very rarely do the judges and I agree on that.  Not that they care.

@azshadowwalker, Gia was the one who had to deal with Tito and Non-Judge-Yet-Judgy Dave.  She was also the one who had the sand collapse in the flash challenge.  I did feel bad for her.

20 hours ago, Honey said:

I have read this 3 times and I still don't understand it.  It's not you, it's me.  Long day.  :)

Agree.  My brain simply refuses to comprehend the "rules" of this season.

[BalsoSnell]

On 9/7/2016 at 8:23 AM, TattleTeeny said:

Maybe I'm a wacko but in competitive reality shows (like this and PR, not competing for a love interest or even in Survivor), I'd be happy with just "here's your assignment; let's see who's the best." No teams, no gimmicks, no drama--just straight-up art!

Face Off!  The only show where the contestants are likeable and help each other.

Edited September 10, 2016 by BalsoSnell
Edit for grammar.

[Nutjob]

18 hours ago, BalsoSnell said:

Face Off!  The only show where that contestants are likeable and help each other.

That was gonna be my recommendation! And it does not, in any way, get boring because the process is so interesting in and of itself. And you get to like pretty much everyone, including the judges who are not jerk faces!

[niklj]

On 9/8/2016 at 8:50 AM, lordonia said:

She also has the most angular jawline I've ever seen on a human. I'm fascinated by it.

She reminds me of an alternate universe Giada De Laurentiis from Food Network.

Regarding the rules where the winning team automatically gets sent to elimination the next week, I feel like that request probably came from Chris and Oliver's egos. How bad would it look for them if their team was completely decimated??

Would've looked forward to seeing Team Nunez go down though.

[azshadowwalker]

I am still wondering what the hell people are thinking when they go on this show with ridiculous requests that they aren't willing to compromise on. Even if I were so attention starved that I just had to be on TV, I can't imagine wanting a huge, fucked-up tattoo that was nearly impossible to correct as a token of that need.  I might pick another reality show in such a case. There are going to be people with reasonable requests who get shitty tattoos, but I can't think of any reason that I would want to increase the likelihood of that happening to me by making unrealistic demands. Those two women wanting huge rib tattoos in six hours deserve having shitty work on them for the rest of their lives. They're idiots. 

[Koda1969]

8 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

I am still wondering what the hell people are thinking when they go on this show with ridiculous requests that they aren't willing to compromise on. Even if I were so attention starved that I just had to be on TV, I can't imagine wanting a huge, fucked-up tattoo that was nearly impossible to correct as a token of that need.  I might pick another reality show in such a case. There are going to be people with reasonable requests who get shitty tattoos, but I can't think of any reason that I would want to increase the likelihood of that happening to me by making unrealistic demands. Those two women wanting huge rib tattoos in six hours deserve having shitty work on them for the rest of their lives. They're idiots. 

Agree! That one canvas who said a true Ink Master should be able to handle it (I paraphrase of course)...I just wanted to slap her upside the head. Yeah, they could handle it, with the right amount of time! You want a great tattoo, be reasonable. You want a tattoo that is going to need $$$ to fix down the road, yeah, demand something insane.

[SillyOldClothCat]

On 9/7/2016 at 11:13 AM, TattleTeeny said:

Yeah, maybe not for others, but I'd like it. But I'm someone who, according to my my sister, would eagerly watch a documentary about a button factory, so...

I also would like to see less backstage personality drama, and more technique and technical details about tatoo art and the specific tattoos being inked.  I'm a sucker for any show that gives a glimpse into experts at the top of their field showing the work behind their excellence.   I also love seeing how everyday things we take for granted are produced.   So, come on over to my place with your documentary about buttons @TattleTeeny! :-D

[TattleTeeny]

Haha, now I am wondering if there are button factories, or if buttons are just made in facilities that make other things as well as buttons out of whatever material. (See, this is how I operate, and it's not always easy! And it's how one falls into a Wiki spiral.)

[thewhiteowl]

TIIC care about producing their show, not about anyone's tattoo. Sane and reasonable canvases take all the drama out of the so-called advantage of skull picks. Canvases chosen seem to care more about getting their mug on TV than any tat they end up with, I don't have much sympathy for them. JMO

[Kromm]

On 9/7/2016 at 2:14 AM, azshadowwalker said:

I was very happy to see the women stick together across teams. I am not going to belittle their support of each other. Women need to support each other, considering that men have been helping each other get ahead forever. That's especially true in a male-dominated industry like tattooing. Nikki, Kelly, Ryan and Gia kick ass, and I am pulling for all four of them. 

Thank GOD we finally got a cast with enough talented and sane women that we can see this kind of support. Ink Master casting has been so bad in the past there was little chance of an actual working female alliance before now.  Although they're being really transparent about it, so even dummies like their teammates, as well as Toothpeck and Nunez have likely all figured it out. 

Edited September 10, 2016 by Kromm

[akr]

Re what happens when they get to five versus five - perhaps the tribes will merge?  

Perhaps not - because how can Peck or Nunez "win" if they do - but I suppose we might be seeing all ten tattoo by that point, preferably as individuals.  Maybe head to head and the losers up for elimination.  I sure hope it's something that involves more tattooing, at least, because the rest of what goes on on this show is pretty hard to watch.  

Count me in on hoping the flagrantly sexist assholes go home soon.  

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[303420]

On 9/7/2016 at 11:30 AM, psychoticstate said:

I still miss Josh.

 

On 9/7/2016 at 11:58 AM, TattleTeeny said:

I do too. And he was impressive in his ability to firmly yet kindly guide the canvas toward a more feasible challenge for him.

Me three. His ouster was what finally got me to register here so I could bitch about it. 

On 9/7/2016 at 0:59 PM, TaraS1 said:

My favorite weirdly edited reaction this week was when judge Dave simply says that the flash challenge will test precision, and it cuts to contestant Dave (I think that's his name) saying, "What?!" like they'd just been asked to tattoo blind while being shot out of a cannon.  

YES! But they do this with all the inktestants. Every. Single. Time.

"This week, we will be testing...competence."

Reaction shot: OH MY GOD THAT'S HUGE!

"And to do it, you will need to tattoo...pears."

Reaction shot: HOLY SHIT!!!

 

On 9/7/2016 at 4:42 PM, Charlesman said:

I agree this is weird. I think, but I'm not sure, that both teams will be in the Flash challenge again next week, with the 'losing' team up for elimination in that episode, and the 'winning' team up for elimination in the next episode. Then, three episodes from now, both will compete again in a flash challenge. But it's certainly an odd way to do it.

If that's how it goes, it's does make the flash challenge slightly more important, if you do well on both. It appears that after the first flash challenge, the winning team chooses skull assignments vs the other team as a group, then the next week, the solo winner can assign skulls solo against his/her own team. So, basically, win the first flash challenge and finish at the top of the second lets you have lots of control over who gets which canvas for both teams.

You just blew my mind.

[qtpye]

2 hours ago, 303420 said:

YES! But they do this with all the inktestants. Every. Single. Time.

"This week, we will be testing...competence."

Reaction shot: OH MY GOD THAT'S HUGE!

"And to do it, you will need to tattoo...pears."

Reaction shot: HOLY SHIT!!!

Bwah ha ha...this is so funny and unfortunately, so true.

[Honey]

nm

7 hours ago, 303420 said:

 

Me three. His ouster was what finally got me to register here so I could bitch about it. 

YES! But they do this with all the inktestants. Every. Single. Time.

"This week, we will be testing...competence."

Reaction shot: OH MY GOD THAT'S HUGE!

"And to do it, you will need to tattoo...pears."

Reaction shot: HOLY SHIT!!!

 

You just blew my mind.

The above quote is by 2 different posters and the quote feature is adding them together.  What's up with that?

Edited September 14, 2016 by Honey

[candall]

On ‎9‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 8:34 AM, Apatee said:

 I thought Boneface's was pretty nice though, would've chose him as the winner.

Agree.  I thought Boneface emphasizing the head was fantastic--incredibly creative to choose that perspective.  Peacock heads are beautiful and brilliant, with the little beads around the eyes and the tall crown on top of the head.  Crazy that they all just blew past him to choose a winner from all those renderings that were so much more blah.

 

On ‎9‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 9:28 AM, Honey said:

I like Ryan, she seems level headed so far, and despite this week's tat, she's very talented.

Ryan got thoroughly shafted on the Flash Challenge.  Peck could NOT shut up about that fucking snake, but the cowboy boots weren't so impressive and the longhorn skull was so bad they didn't even put the camera on that side to show it.  I could only see the ridiculously long alligator jaw extending out and frittering away into nothing; no horns at all.

Ryan had three large, sharply defined elements, and the color distinction, plus some nice detail, like the upside down cross pendant on the witch's necklace.  Loser!

 

(Not a great peacock, though.)

[Charlesman]

4 hours ago, Honey said:

nm

The above quote is by 2 different posters and the quote feature is adding them together.  What's up with that?

With the new board software, when you quote a post, you only quote the new content. So when you quoted 303420's post, you only brought in their new words. None of what they were quoting. It's a weird quirk of the new system.