The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[ginger90]

Same photographer, probably the same day. The photographer posted this on October 18th.

[Zella]

11 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Is that Jinger's version of the stupid face Jill always makes for pictures? She seems to do that a lot. . . .

Maybe it's her "Don't mind the shit going down with my family in Arkansas" face. 

[Sew Sumi]

Yup. Same outfits. Good catch!

eta: The stroll was even taken in Chinatown. Pictures were probably taken less than an hour apart. A month ago.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[xwordfanatik]

How many bets that Jin never swallowed more than that single bite?

Now I wish that Joe would have licked his plate when dining out with JinJer.  It would have served RFP's pretentious ass right.

[wilsie]

It's utterly fascinating to me that this and many other similar pictures are on sm.  And people comment and engage with each other.  Have separate conversations from the Vuolos who don't seem to respond.  What do the commenters get from this?  What is missing in their lives that these pictures are important?  And why in the hell do I care?😏

[galaxychaser]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

Is that Jinger's version of the stupid face Jill always makes for pictures? She seems to do that a lot. . . .

Maybe it's her "Don't mind the shit going down with my family in Arkansas" face. 

She is probably calculating how many calories are in a bite.

I agree with why is she making that face while eating.

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, wilsie said:

It's utterly fascinating to me that this and many other similar pictures are on sm.  And people comment and engage with each other.  Have separate conversations from the Vuolos who don't seem to respond.  What do the commenters get from this?  What is missing in their lives that these pictures are important?  And why in the hell do I care?😏

Well, to an atheist like me, gathering on social media with fellow acolytes of your favorite celebrity looks quite similar to being an ancient Greek gathered with others in the Parthenon or any modern believer congregating in their faith-specific church/temple/other venue......

You're feeling solidarity and a link to the greater world beyond as you share with others the feeling of proximity between your gods and your earthly day-to-day existence. The proximity that you only really feel in the holy places like churches and Instagram that act like semipermeable windows and doors between ordinary human life and the greater life somewhere beyond.

And in none of those situations do the gods literally speak to you -- at least not in about 999 out of 1000 times you visit and pay homage -- but when you speak to and about them and share your devotion with others of the faithful, you very often feel as if those gods are seeing you, little old you, and speaking back....

Celebrities as gods. That's how it looks to me, anyway!  😁

(Devotees of these particular gods have set a very low bar for divinity, I must say....but they're not the only ones who've ever done so.....When you look at history there have been plenty of gods out there who seem pretty low rent, if you ask me....)

[wilsie]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

3 hours ago, wilsie said:

It's utterly fascinating to me that this and many other similar pictures are on sm.  And people comment and engage with each other.  Have separate conversations from the Vuolos who don't seem to respond.  What do the commenters get from this?  What is missing in their lives that these pictures are important?  And why in the hell do I care?😏

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Well, to an atheist like me, gathering on social media with fellow acolytes of your favorite celebrity looks quite similar to being an ancient Greek gathered with others in the Parthenon or any modern believer congregating in their faith-specific church/temple/other venue......

You're feeling solidarity and a link to the greater world beyond as you share with others the feeling of proximity between your gods and your earthly day-to-day existence. The proximity that you only really feel in the holy places like churches and Instagram that act like semipermeable windows and doors between ordinary human life and the greater life somewhere beyond.

And in none of those situations do the gods literally speak to you -- at least not in about 999 out of 1000 times you visit and pay homage -- but when you speak to and about them and share your devotion with others of the faithful, you very often feel as if those gods are seeing you, little old you, and speaking back....

Celebrities as gods. That's how it looks to me, anyway!  😁

(Devotees of these particular gods have set a very low bar for divinity, I must say....but they're not the only ones who've ever done so.....When you look at history there have been plenty of gods out there who seem pretty low rent, if you ask me....)

Thank you!  When I see Duggar and their adjacents' pictures thinking of low-rent gods will make me smile.

[laurakaye]

16 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

He probably broke out in a flop sweat when he realized what he had clicked on. I'm guessing he got a phone call!

Good thing he had a pocket square at the ready to mop his brow.

[Minivanessa]

12 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Good thing he had a pocket square at the ready to mop his brow.

And (I hope) his own contract with TLC. Heh.

[Fig Newton]

Oh, for fucks sake, stop with the wide open mouth and phony expressions. Eat your damn food and stop with the pictures. This looks like ordinary Chinese Food that millions of people eat on the daily. Nothing interesting here.........

POSERS!

[Churchhoney]

13 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

I agree with why is she making that face while eating.

Maybe the photographer said, "Hey, guys, this picture is kind of dull [because, wow, is it ever...], can you do something to perk it up?" .....And that's all she could think of....

Can't say I blame her for having no other ideas. That's the kind of shot there's no reason to take, seems to me. So unless she had dumped the plate of food on her head -- or Jer's?...now there's a thought -- there don't seem to be a lot of options (especially with a photographer who thought that framing would make a good shot...) .....

Plus, as we see with Jill, JIngle and others, they apparently have a repertoire of expressions from youths spent with cameras in their faces and people telling them to do something interesting or funny or something now because we have a TeeVee show to keep on the air. I expect they were told that so many times -- and the real options were so few, because they and their lives were dull then and have been dull ever since, plus they're supposed to be benign and godly all the time -- that they had to fall back on these wide-eyed goofy looks until they became second nature for them. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Rabbittron]

18 hours ago, Totally said:

But then not a lot that that RFP has shown us lately exudes much in the way of love and compassion or Christ like living 

Yes he has shown that a lot to us but only for and to himself. 

[galaxychaser]

4 hours ago, Fig Newton said:

Oh, for fucks sake, stop with the wide open mouth and phony expressions. Eat your damn food and stop with the pictures. This looks like ordinary Chinese Food that millions of people eat on the daily. Nothing interesting here.........

POSERS!

If only a nice big bug flew in the mouth. That would be hilarious.

[farmgal4]

18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Same photographer, probably the same day. The photographer posted this on October 18th.

Yeah, same clothes, most likely the same day.  So they hired a professional photographer to follow them around for awhile and snap pics that they can post later on SM.  They really do think they’re something special, don’t they?  Jeremy is going to have a long way to fall when the show ends, because he’s put himself on a very high pedestal. 

[crazy8s]

has it been mentioned here Jeremy also recently formed an LLC with the TTH address?

Fremont Street LLC - seriously jeremy??

For service of process contact the Secretary of State's office.
 

Corporation Name FREMONT STREET LLC

Fictitious Names

Filing #811213720

Filing TypeLimited Liability Company

Filed under ActDomestic LLC; 1003 of 1993

StatusGood Standing

Principal AddressP O BOX 1000
TONTITOWN, AR 72770

Reg. AgentJEREMY VUOLO

Agent Address548 ARBOR ACRES AVENUE

SPRINGDALE, AR 72762

Date Filed08/10/2019

OfficersJEREMY VUOLO , Incorporator/Organizer
 

Foreign NameN/A

Foreign Address

State of OriginN/A

[Churchhoney]

7 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

has it been mentioned here Jeremy also recently formed an LLC with the TTH address?

Fremont Street LLC - seriously jeremy??

For service of process contact the Secretary of State's office.
 

Corporation Name FREMONT STREET LLC

Fictitious Names

Filing #811213720

Filing TypeLimited Liability Company

Filed under ActDomestic LLC; 1003 of 1993

StatusGood Standing

Principal AddressP O BOX 1000
TONTITOWN, AR 72770

Reg. AgentJEREMY VUOLO

Agent Address548 ARBOR ACRES AVENUE

SPRINGDALE, AR 72762

Date Filed08/10/2019

OfficersJEREMY VUOLO , Incorporator/Organizer
 

Foreign NameN/A

Foreign Address

State of OriginN/A

I thought the name "Fremont Street" sounded a little familiar....So ... Googled it -- turns out that, yeah, it's a famous street name because it's the name of "Glitter Gulch," Las Vegas.....

So WTF just became considerably WTFer, for me, anyway. 

And why would Jer be starting an LLC in Tontitown/Springdale? Seems to me he's badly wanted to keep his distance...... 

Does Arkansas have some kind of highly favorable regulatory or tax regime for businesses or something? 

[galaxychaser]

I didn’t realize Jinger was so much shorter than Jeremy. 

[crazy8s]

4 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I thought the name "Fremont Street" sounded a little familiar....So ... Googled it -- turns out that, yeah, it's a famous street name because it's the name of "Glitter Gulch," Las Vegas.....

after jer/ jin practically dripping with contempt for the unworldly Joe and Kendra, I would like Jing to tell us she has ever heard of Freemont Street, anything at all about it....... anything Jing?

[galaxychaser]

Maybe Jeremy will get in trouble? Something is brewing all right. Come on US law enforcement do something about the Duggar pests. 

I wonder how much dirt/info Dereck got on JB. Maybe they got a $1 million from JB to stay 🤫 quiet.

[crazy8s]

1 minute ago, galaxychaser said:

Maybe Jeremy will get in trouble? Something is brewing all right. Come on US law enforcement do something about the Duggar pests. 

I wonder how much dirt/info Dereck got on JB. Maybe they got a $1 million from JB to stay 🤫 quiet.

I wonder if when Derrick didn't know he signed a contract for TLC, he also didn't know he signed an NDA.....

[JoanArc]

19 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I thought the name "Fremont Street" sounded a little familiar....So ... Googled it -- turns out that, yeah, it's a famous street name because it's the name of "Glitter Gulch," Las Vegas.....

So WTF just became considerably WTFer, for me, anyway. 

And why would Jer be starting an LLC in Tontitown/Springdale? Seems to me he's badly wanted to keep his distance...... 

Does Arkansas have some kind of highly favorable regulatory or tax regime for businesses or something? 

The other LLCs are named after The road the TTH is on. Maybe Fremont Street has some similar tie to Jeremy‘s past. 

[Sew Sumi]

How long after he left the show would the NDA be in effect? Derelict's already spilled the tea w/r/t TLC not paying for Izzy's birth. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[crazy8s]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

How long after he left the show would the NDA be in effect? Derelict's already spilled the tea w/r/t TLC not paying for Izzy's birth. 

but that was at TLC and not Duggar family secrets.

Can't you all just see JB making all those marrying into the family sign a an NDA?

I have no idea how NDAs work as far as time limits

Edited November 22, 2019 by crazy8s

[BigBingerBro]

That picture of them walking down the street is soooo odd.  Both adults are walking taking big strides, but the baby is just standing there.  Was this photo shopped?  I wouldn't be surprised if it's completely staged.

[GeeGolly]

I'm wondering if all these LCCs are just property investments.

JD and Abbie were talking about how Abbie wasn't initially comfortable with neither of them having a 9 - 5 job. If JB holds the purse strings, maybe he gives each family a lump sum and they use some of it to buy property to make more money. 

I'm guessing there's some of tax benefit LCCs provide, while the Duggars sit on their investments waiting to sell.

[luvbadtv]

15 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

but that was at TLC and not Duggar family secrets.

Can't you all just see JB making all those marrying into the family sign a an NDA?

I have no idea how NDAs work as far as time limits

I don't know if you can specify in the NDA, but Jon Gosselin had a 10 year clause, which just expired.  He is free to talk now.

[Churchhoney]

24 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

The other LLCs are named after The road the TTH is on. Maybe Fremont Street has some similar tie to Jeremy‘s past. 

Well, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, right? 😈

[Churchhoney]

I'm pretty sure an NDA can last for as long as you can convince the signers to sign away that right. 

I guess it's recommended that it be no longer than it has to be to protect the interests of both the NDA writer and the signers. But I'm  pretty sure there's no actual limit to how long you can ask people to shut up -- if they're willing to sign the agreement. 

I was once presented with a non-compete agreement that would have lasted for life....I refused to sign it, but a lot of people did. .... And the employer sued some people who broke the agreement some years later -- and he won......

So -- all these things are supposed to be done to balance the rights of both parties. But if you're desperate or dumb enough to sign one that keeps you bound to something forever, I think it's pretty much on you.

I have a hard time seeing Duggarlings quarreling with the terms of Daddy Pop's contracts (and I expect even the adjacents are hesitant to do so...) 

[crazy8s]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

I'm wondering if all these LCCs are just property investments.

I'm guessing there's some of tax benefit LCCs provide, while the Duggars sit on their investments waiting to sell.

I posted in the smuggar thread the tax advantages of the LLCs - for instance Jana has an LLC and she seems to have bought/own that vacant building/tattoo parlor or whatever. If that building is moved to her LLC, any rent would be paid to the LLC  that income would go to her, as the owner, to be claimed on her personal tax return it seems. she would also most likely be eligible for a 20% tax break as long as she makes under $157,000 per yr.

Same with Jed"s Car lot LLC, Jason's Building CO LLC, Jerimiah's LLC, etc

The LLCs are diverting the money so Jim Bob can get a tax break

[GeeGolly]

14 minutes ago, luvbadtv said:

I don't know if you can specify in the NDA, but Jon Gosselin had a 10 year clause, which just expired.  He is free to talk now.

I believe this NDA was part of their divorce agreement.

[Sew Sumi]

24 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

That picture of them walking down the street is soooo odd.  Both adults are walking taking big strides, but the baby is just standing there.  Was this photo shopped?  I wouldn't be surprised if it's completely staged.

Completely staged by the photographer. Lissy messed it up by not walking (or pretending to).

[Churchhoney]

25 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I posted in the smuggar thread the tax advantages of the LLCs - for instance Jana has an LLC and she seems to have bought/own that vacant building/tattoo parlor or whatever. If that building is moved to her LLC, any rent would be paid to the LLC  that income would go to her, as the owner, to be claimed on her personal tax return it seems. she would also most likely be eligible for a 20% tax break as long as she makes under $157,000 per yr.

Same with Jed"s Car lot LLC, Jason's Building CO LLC, Jerimiah's LLC, etc

The LLCs are diverting the money so Jim Bob can get a tax break

So he risks tax-evasion charges if he's found to be directing income into entities supposedly owned by people in the family who are in lower tax brackets than he is personally, right?

I mean, that is tax fraud.....And I know there's not enough enforcement capability to actually investigate and prosecute most of the tax fraud that's out there. But JB's potential vehicles for it seem to keep multiplying. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Churchhoney

[galaxychaser]

I think NDA can be for lifetime. Look at Tom Cruise. Neither wife talks about Tom or Scientology.

[crazy8s]

4 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

So he risks tax-evasion charges if he's found to be directing income into entities supposedly owned by people in the family who are in lower tax brackets than he is personally, right?

I mean, that is tax fraud.....And I know there's not enough enforcement capability to actually investigate and prosecute most of the tax fraud that's out there. But JB's potential vehicles for it seem to keep multiplying. 

no, all legal under the new tax reform law,

All duggs with LLCs are of legal age. as long as they file their taxes and pay it's all legal.

[crazy8s]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/25/one-way-to-play-the-new-tax-law

https://www.uschamber.com/co/run/finance/tax-law-reform-business-entitystart-an-llc.html

Edited November 22, 2019 by crazy8s

[Churchhoney]

14 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

no, all legal under the new tax reform law,

All duggs with LLCs are of legal age. as long as they file their taxes and pay it's all legal.

Argh.......So no wonder there's this flurry of LLCs. And no wonder JB had the big Trump 2020 mowed into the grass. 😫 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Sew Sumi]

The second article states that the LLC is not to be used for mischarictarized wages. 

What else would they put in there? Jeremy doesn't even have real estate holdings anymore.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[crazy8s]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Tge second article states that the LLC I not to be for mischarictarized wages. 

What else would they put in there? Jeremy doesn't even have real estate holdings anymore.

i was confused on jeremy forming an LLC as well - also anna's recent LLC with an overseer

the other ones are pretty transparent.

[Churchhoney]

13 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Tge second article states that the LLC I not to be for mischarictarized wages. 

What else would they put in there? Jeremy doesn't even have real estate holdings anymore.

Maybe he "bought" some property from JB? .... But I still don't see how he can be part of this scheme.....

I assume the real story here centers on what the first article said -- since there are no regs yet, tax advisors are telling people to do anything  they can think of to get the tax breaks, in hopes that the regs will never appear or will be shaped by lobbying to the point that you really can get away with anything? 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Sew Sumi]

I'd guess that Jeremy might have put away the equity they got out of the Laredo house in it (they put about 50% down), but they're spending money like water out in LaLa Land. 

[Churchhoney]

9 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'd guess that Jeremy might have put away the equity they got out of the Laredo house in it (they put about 50% down), but they're spending money like water out in LaLa Land. 

Yeah, he probably did....But they are spending like water....And did they put enough down on that house to have built up much equity in just the couple of years they were in it? It wasn't a very pricey house....

It must be just a little LLC.....

I wonder what they imagine they'll do for actual cash when they have to start paying rent again...

And I am surprised Jer wanted to get his money involved with all JB's tangled money dealings in Arkansas. ... I thought he'd try to keep well clear of that....ALthough I guess JB's their life raft if things go sour, although I can't see Jer admitting that. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Sew Sumi]

Boob probably advised Jer to set it up, and I would wager that they used Boob's local lawyer. All Jeremy had to do was sign the paperwork and transfer his funds.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Sew Sumi

[Ohiopirate02]

2 hours ago, crazy8s said:

but that was at TLC and not Duggar family secrets.

Can't you all just see JB making all those marrying into the family sign a an NDA?

I have no idea how NDAs work as far as time limits

JB could try to get them to sign a NDA, but if JB or Josh is breaking the law it won't matter. 

[Churchhoney]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Boob probably advised Jer to set it up, and I would wager that they used Boob's local lawyer. All Jeremy had to do was sign the paperwork and transfer his funds.

I wouldn't transfer my funds to anything involving Boob's lawyer. just sayin'. 😁

[Churchhoney]

I'm still trying to get my mind around the fact that Jer -- while he's in school in an expensive city and his family's future is not yet mapped out at all -- has apparently sunk his it-can't-be-that-big nest egg into what is basically an Arkansas-based business venture with Boob. 

Because somebody has to be managing the rental property that is Jer's LLC in Arkansas.....And that's got to be Boob and company, right? 

And what the hell kind of rental property can you even buy for jer's, what, $75,000-$100,000 nest egg? You certainly don't want a mortgage on it, do you? Since you're counting on it bringing in income for which you pay low or no taxes......So you buy a tiny house, or a shed, or a miniature storefront to rent out? Who'll rent that? Nobody's going to pay much rent for it. What if it's some slob running a meth lab? 

I must be missing the point here somehow because this whole thing seems positively insane to me. 

Edited November 23, 2019 by Churchhoney

[JoanArc]

11 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I'm still trying to get my mind around the fact that Jer -- while he's in school in an expensive city and his family's future is not yet mapped out at all -- has apparently sunk his it-can't-be-that-big nest egg into what is basically an Arkansas-based business venture with Boob. 

Because somebody has to be managing the rental property that is Jer's LLC in Arkansas.....And that's got to be Boob and company, right? 

And what the hell kind of rental property can you even buy for jer's, what, $75,000-$100,000 nest egg? You certainly don't want a mortgage on it, do you? Since you're counting on it bringing in income for which you pay low or no taxes......So you buy a tiny house, or a shed, or a miniature storefront to rent out? Who'll rent that? Nobody's going to pay much rent for it. What if it's some slob running a meth lab? 

I must be missing the point here somehow because this whole thing seems positively insane to me. 

 Whenever something looks too good to be true, it usually is. Whenever something looks totally insane, it usually is. You often comment about how Jim Bob is one of the best brainwashers on the planet. I do agree with you, and I think these corrupt business ventures prove he has a hold on Jeremy that is stronger than we realize.  Or, it could be Jeremy is just a big fat idiot.

[Natalie68]

4 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 Whenever something looks too good to be true, it usually is. Whenever something looks totally insane, it usually is. You often comment about how Jim Bob is one of the best brainwashers on the planet. I do agree with you, and I think these corrupt business ventures prove he has a hold on Jeremy that is stronger than we realize.  Or, it could be Jeremy is just a big fat idiot.

I am thinking both can be true 🤣

[crazy8s]

23 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I am thinking both can be true 🤣

after the "romantic date' episode, my answer will always be flip a coin

[Faul McCartney]

There’s lots of reasons why RFP would form an LLC in Arkansas, it doesn’t have to be for rental properties. I guarantee it’s cheaper to set up and pay annual fees on an AR LLC versus a CA LLC. Jeremy should be running his business through an LLC or LLCs, it’s prudent. 

He’s still lame and Boob is a creep though.