Box Office

[AimingforYoko]

1 hour ago, Dejana said:

9 (N)  Incarnate   $2,659,000 | 1,737 Theaters | $1,531 Avg. | $5M Budget | $2,659,000    

Someone needs to break it to Aaron Eckhart that he's just a good-looking character actor.

[proserpina65]

So can we agree that Brad Pitt doesn't equal box office success on his own?

[dkb]

Is Moana going to make its budget back? It's doing great at the box office but it's budget was $150 million  from the numbers above. I believe its made around $125 worldwide so far?

Sing is coming out soon too I believe, which will take the young children/family money away.

[AimingforYoko]

It's made $177m and Singdoesn't open 'til Christmas.

[dusang]

1 hour ago, dkb said:

Is Moana going to make its budget back? It's doing great at the box office but it's budget was $150 million  from the numbers above. I believe its made around $125 worldwide so far?

 

1 minute ago, AimingforYoko said:

It's made $177m.

I don't know what Disney considers a "success" anymore -- after SW:TFA does anything look "successful"? -- but I would hope and imagine that they also take into consideration the ongoing revenue stream from merchandising, home viewing (DVD, streaming), etc. when considering the success of a film.

[Athena]

23 minutes ago, dusang said:

 

I don't know what Disney considers a "success" anymore -- after SW:TFA does anything look "successful"? -- but I would hope and imagine that they also take into consideration the ongoing revenue stream from merchandising, home viewing (DVD, streaming), etc. when considering the success of a film.

SW:TFA was a unique beast and Disney paid a lot of money for the franchise so they can't compare with other movie lines they own. They want Rogue One to do very well this Christmas though, close to TFA. Moana is going to compared to its other animated movies and Pixar. Disney also owns Marvel and that's got its own category of profitability. 

[Dejana]

12 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

So can we agree that Brad Pitt doesn't equal box office success on his own?

I don't know if any star these days will draw in a big audience regardless of the material, maybe Leo and Denzel, though even they have under-performers in their careers. Brad in his third World War II movie after Inglorious Basterds and Fury probably didn't help with making Allied a must-see. The movie was already busted Oscar bait lagging in promotion when Brad's divorce news dropped, there were affair allegations, an investigation of his parenting and a pregnant Marion Cotillard desperate to distance herself from the drama. I think it might have had slightly better luck if it had been moved to early next year, the way Shutter Island or The Monuments Men were, once it was clear they weren't going to rack up awards.

 

Worldwide Box Office:

DOCTOR STRANGE:  $419.6M Overseas | $634.9M Global Total
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $424.4M Overseas | $608M Global Total

TROLLS:  $164.9M Overseas | $306.7M Global Total
MISS PEREGRINE’S HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN:  $185.5M Overseas | $271.8M Global Total
SULLY:  $75.9M Overseas | $200.6M Global Total

MOANA:  $57.5M Overseas | $177.4M Global Total
JACK REACHER: NEVER GO BACK:  $97.4M Overseas | $155.1M Global Total
ARRIVAL:  $21.5M Overseas | $105.2M Global Total

ALLIED:  $24.8M Overseas | $53.7M Global Total
UNDERWORLD: BLOOD WARS:  $18.9M Overseas/Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $8.3M Overseas | $11M Global Total

Edited December 6, 2016 by Dejana

[Dejana]

People often wonder how movies make so much from a handful of theaters in limited release. La La Land comes out this weekend, and one of the theaters where it's playing is the ArcLight Hollywood, a multiplex showing it on multiple screens. Here are the showtimes listed for Saturday (remember, at one location):

8:00 AM, 8:30 AM, 9:00 AM, 10:00 AM, 10:15 AM (DOME), 10:15 AM (two screens at the same time), 11:00 AM, 11:30 AM, 12:00 PM, 12:45 PM, 1:15 PM, 1:30 PM (DOME), 2:00 PM, 2:30 PM, 3:00 PM, 3:30 PM, 4:15 PM, 4:45 PM (DOME), 5:15 PM, 5:45 PM, 6:15 PM, 7:00 PM, 7:30 PM, 8:00 PM (DOME), 8:30 PM, 9:00 PM, 9:30 PM, 10:00 PM, 10:45 PM, 11:15 PM (DOME), 11:45 PM, 12:15 AM, 1:00 AM

The matinee price for an adult at that location is $15.75, the evening price $17.75, and its dome theater "seats more than 800 guests per showing". Basically, within those select two or four or five theaters, the indie/arthouse awards hopefuls are getting the Star Wars/Marvel treatment.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Dejana

[vibeology]

Star Wars doesn't even get that treatment when I live. Damn! Rogue One will be on two or three screens at every theatre here (depending on how many screens total), but to pull this off, they have to have it on five or six, right? The movie is over two hours and you have previews and getting people in before hand so that 8:00am theatre turns over at 11:00am, right? That's just crazy and makes me very jealous.

[Dejana]

2 hours ago, vibeology said:

Star Wars doesn't even get that treatment when I live. Damn! Rogue One will be on two or three screens at every theatre here (depending on how many screens total), but to pull this off, they have to have it on five or six, right? The movie is over two hours and you have previews and getting people in before hand so that 8:00am theatre turns over at 11:00am, right? That's just crazy and makes me very jealous.

I saw on the Arclight's site that they don't run outside ads and just 5-7 minutes of previews before each movie, so that would help a bit with the turnaround time. Still, it would have to be 6 screens or so, to have over 30 showtimes in one day.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Dejana

[Dejana]

December 9–11, 2016 Estimates:

1 (1)  Moana   $18,842,000 | 3,875 Theaters | $4,862 Avg. | $150M Budget | $145,008,593   
2 (N)  Office Christmas Party   $17,500,000 | 3,210 Theaters | $5,452 Avg. | $45M Budget | $17,500,000   
3 (2)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $10,785,000 | 3,626 Theaters | $2,974 Avg. | $180M Budget | $199,310,903   
4 (3)  Arrival   $5,600,000 | 3,115 Theaters | $1,798 Avg. | $47M Budget | $81,451,708    
5 (5)  Doctor Strange   $4,631,000 | 2,763 Theaters | $1,676 Avg. | $165M Budget | $222,362,446    

6 (4)  Allied   $4,000,000 | 3,018 Theaters | $1,325 Avg. | $85M Budget | $35,633,452   
7 (16)  Nocturnal Animals   $3,193,685 | 1,262 Theaters | $2,531 Avg. | $22.5M Budget | $6,219,813   
8 (11)  Manchester by the Sea   $3,155,330 | 366 Theaters | $8,621 Avg. | $8.5M Budget | $8,325,531    
9 (6)  Trolls   $3,110,000 | 2,786 Theaters | $1,116 Avg. | $125M Budget | $145,490,005    
10 (7)  Hacksaw Ridge   $2,300,000 | 2,277 Theaters | $1,010 Avg. | $40M Budget | $60,862,448    

11 (40)  Miss Sloane   $1,900,000 | 1,648 Theaters | $1,153 Avg. | $13M Budget | $2,038,365   
12 (10)  Almost Christmas   $1,401,730 | 1,258 Theaters | $1,114 Avg. | $17M Budget | $40,238,215    
13 (8)  Bad Santa 2   $1,235,485 | 2,034 Theaters | $607 Avg. | $26M Budget | $16,800,253 
14 (9)  Incarnate   $1,098,000 | 1,737 Theaters | $632 Avg. | $5M Budget | $4,240,138    
15 (N)  La La Land   $855,000 | 5 Theaters | $171,000 Avg. | $30M Budget | $855,000    

Loving   $623,380 | 572 Theaters | $1,090 Avg. | $9M Budget | $6,565,642     
Moonlight   $589,627 | 449 Theaters | $1,313 Avg. | $5M Budget | $10,804,377
Jackie   $495,000 | 26 Theaters | $19,038 Avg. | $9M Budget | $859,825     
Lion   $171,909 | 15 Theaters | $11,461 Avg. | $494,099     
Elle   $48,567 | 27 Theaters | $1,799 Avg. | $9.1M Budget | $631,985

[AimingforYoko]

Well, playtime is over, shall we start the Rogue One guessing game? I'll go with $180m.

[Dejana]

6 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Well, playtime is over, shall we start the Rogue One guessing game? I'll go with $180m.

Industry tracking supposedly has the opening weekend at $140-$150M, with a global range from $280-$350M.

 

Worldwide Box Office:

FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $480.7M Overseas | $680M Global Total
DOCTOR STRANGE:  $423.4M Overseas | $645.7M Global Total  
TROLLS:  $171.5M Overseas | $316.9M Global Total

MISS PEREGRINE'S HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN:  $191.2M Overseas | $277.6M Global Total
MOANA:  $93.8M Overseas | $238.8M Global Total
SULLY:  $94M Overseas | $218.6M Global Total

JACK REACHER: NEVER GO BACK:  $101.6M Overseas | $159.6M Global Total
ARRIVAL:  $48.4M Overseas | $129.8M Global Total
HACKSAW RIDGE:  $23M Overseas | $83.8M Global Total
ALLIED:  $33.9M Overseas | $69.5M Global Total

UNDERWORLD: BLOOD WARS:  $34.7M Overseas & Global Total
OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY:  $16.4M Overseas | $33.9M Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $10M Overseas | $16.2M Global Total
SING:  $9.6M Overseas & Global Total
LA LA LAND:  $4.6M Overseas | $5.4M Global Total

Edited December 12, 2016 by Dejana

[Dejana]

December 16–18, 2016 Estimates:

1 (N)  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $155,000,000 | 4,157 Theaters | $37,287 Avg. | $200M Budget | $155,000,000    
2 (1)  Moana   $11,664,000 | 3,587 Theaters | $3,252 Avg. | $150M Budget | $161,858,745   
3 (2)  Office Christmas Party   $8,450,000 | 3,210 Theaters | $2,632 Avg. | $45M Budget | $31,518,267   
4 (N)  Collateral Beauty   $7,000,000 | 3,528 Theaters | $1,984 Avg. | $36M Budget | $7,000,000   
5 (3)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $5,030,000 | 3,036 Theaters | $1,657 Avg. | $180M Budget | $207,681,095   

6 (7)  Manchester by the Sea   $4,156,338 | 1,208 Theaters | $3,441 Avg. | $8.5M Budget | $14,016,643   
7 (15)  La La Land   $4,020,000 | 200 Theaters | $20,100 Avg. | $30M Budget | $5,260,166 
8 (4)  Arrival   $2,775,000 | 2,157 Theaters | $1,287 Avg. | $47M Budget | $86,468,367   
9 (5)  Doctor Strange   $2,036,000 | 1,930 Theaters | $1,055 Avg. | $165M Budget | $226,086,027   
10 (8)  Nocturnal Animals   $1,391,380 | 1,246 Theaters | $1,117 Avg. | $22.5M Budget | $8,812,746    

11 (9)  Trolls   $1,300,000 | 1,714 Theaters | $758 Avg. | $125M Budget | $147,355,938    
12 (6)  Allied   $1,245,000 | 1,625 Theaters | $766 Avg. | $85M Budget | $38,453,917    
13 (10)  Hacksaw Ridge   $895,000 | 1,341 Theaters | $667 Avg. | $40M Budget | $62,793,104    
14 (12)  Almost Christmas   $573,730 | 720 Theaters | $797 Avg. | $17M Budget | $41,173,660    
15 (19)  Jackie   $550,000 | 84 Theaters | $6,548 Avg. | $9M Budget | $1,592,735    

Miss Sloane   $460,000 | 1,463 Theaters | $314 Avg. | $13M Budget | $3,199,636    
Moonlight   $400,525 | 305 Theaters | $1,313 Avg. | $5M Budget | $11,502,200   
Loving   $205,780 | 396 Theaters | $520 Avg. | $9M Budget | $7,100,022    
Lion   $130,539 | 16 Theaters | $8,159 Avg. | $701,613    

Fences   $128,000 | 4 Theaters | $32,000 Avg. | $24M Budget | $128,000   
The Wasted Times   $90,000 | 20 Theaters | $4,500 Avg. | $90,000   
Elle   $35,534 | 24 Theaters | $1,481 Avg. | $9.1M Budget | $696,230  
Neruda   $28,265 | 3 Theaters | $9,422 Avg. | $28,265    

 

Worldwide Box Office:

ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY:  $135.5M Overseas | $290.5M Global Total
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $509.8M Overseas | $717.5M Global Total

[Dejana]

December 23–26, 2016 Estimates:

1 (1)  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $96,085,000 | 4,157 Theaters | $23,114 Avg. | $200M Budget | $318,083,674     
2 (N)  Sing   $56,080,000 | 4,022 Theaters | $13,943 Avg. | $75M Budget | $76,692,640   
3 (N)  Passengers   $23,100,000 | 3,478 Theaters | $6,642 Avg. | $110M Budget | $30,425,201   
4 (N)  Why Him?   $16,715,000 | 2,917 Theaters | $5,730 Avg. | $38M Budget | $16,715,000   
5 (N)  Assassin's Creed   $15,000,000 | 2,970 Theaters | $5,051 Avg. | $125M Budget | $22,492,398   

6 (2)  Moana   $12,554,860 | 2,687 Theaters | $4,672 Avg. | $150M Budget | $185,587,051
7 (25)  Fences   $11,600,170 | 2,233 Theaters | $5,195 Avg. | $24M Budget | $11,791,685
8 (7)  La La Land   $9,700,000 | 734 Theaters | $13,215 Avg. | $30M Budget | $17,582,311   
9 (3)  Office Christmas Party   $7,250,000 | 2,441 Theaters | $2,970 Avg. | $45M Budget | $44,288,602     
10 (4)  Collateral Beauty   $7,060,000 | 3,028 Theaters | $2,332 Avg. | $36M Budget | $18,061,500   

11 (5)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $4,465,000 | 1,966 Theaters | $2,271 Avg. | $180M Budget | $215,770,251  
12 (6)  Manchester by the Sea   $4,404,398 | 1,213 Theaters | $3,631 Avg. | $8.5M Budget | $21,119,514     
13 (N)  Dangal  $4,244,509 | 331 Theaters | $12,823 Avg. | $10.3M Budget | $5,077,181
14 (15) Jackie   $1,877,917 | 348 Theaters | $5,396 Avg. | $9M Budget | $4,189,359
15 (24)  Lion   $1,537,598 | 500 Theaters | $3,075 Avg. | $2,391,031

Arrival   $1,800,000 | 545 Theaters | $3,303 Avg. | $47M Budget | $92,632,332    
Hidden Figures   $955,000 | 25 Theaters | $38,200 Avg. | $25M Budget | $955,000
Patriots Day   $241,306 | 7 Theaters | $34,472 Avg. | $45M Budget | $336,718    
Silence   $180,000 | 4 Theaters | $45,000 Avg. | $50M Budget | $180,000

Live By Night   $56,000 | 4 Theaters | $14,000 Avg. | $65M Budget | $56,000
A Monster Calls   $42,170 | 4 Theaters | $10,543 Avg. | $43M Budget | $42,170     
Toni Erdmann   $30,972 | 3 Theaters | $10,324 Avg. | $3.2M Budget | $30,972    

Edited January 2, 2017 by Dejana

[Dejana]

Worldwide Box Office:

FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $528.8M Overseas | $744.6M Global Total
DOCTOR STRANGE:  $427.5M Overseas | $656M Global Total
ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY:  $237.4M Overseas | $555.4M Global Total

TROLLS:   $180.3M Overseas | $329.1M Global Total
MOANA:  $144.5M Overseas | $325M Global Total
MISS PEREGRINE’S HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN:  $195.1M Overseas | $281.8M Global Total
SULLY:  $108.2M Overseas | $233M Global Total

HACKSAW RIDGE:  $69.5M Overseas | $133.7M Global Total
SING:  $54M Overseas | $130.7M Global Total
THE GREAT WALL:  $120.1M Overseas/Global Total

ALLIED:  $41M Overseas | $80.3M Global Total
PASSENGERS:  $16.5M Overseas | $46.9M Global Total
ASSASSIN’S CREED:  $14M Overseas | $36.6M Global Total

LA LA LAND:  $17.7M Overseas | $35.2M Global Total
COLLATERAL BEAUTY:  $11.5M Overseas | $29.5M Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $12.1M Overseas | $21.2M Global Total
WHY HIM:  $2.1M Overseas | $18.9M Global Total

[proserpina65]

So have any videogame-based movies done well enough to justify making a big budget version of Assassin's Creed starring someone known primarily for artier fare?

[AimingforYoko]

The Videogame genre is a poser. You have to have a budget big enough to have the proper FX, but the public interest never seems to match the budget. This is one puzzle that may never get solved. (And maybe studios should stop trying.)

[KatWay]

I think the Videogame movies are mostly seen as advertisements for the actual videogames, that's why they keep getting made despite not making money.

They are never particularly good either, so they mostly flop, but apparently they do increase player numbers of the games, so someone out there is making money off them.

[Trini]

7 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

So have any videogame-based movies done well enough to justify making a big budget version of Assassin's Creed starring someone known primarily for artier fare?

I have no numbers for its budget or profit, but, Tomb Raider?

[Goes to internet...] Oh, hey, I was right!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=videogameadaptation.htm

There have been way more video game adaptations than I thought.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Trini

[starri]

5 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

The Videogame genre is a poser. You have to have a budget big enough to have the proper FX, but the public interest never seems to match the budget. This is one puzzle that may never get solved. (And maybe studios should stop trying.)

It's not even that, it's just that in a lot of games, especially those in the last ten years or so, have really complex stories that take a while to tell.  There's no way to condense a 30 hour game into a two hour movie.

Tomb Raider was stupid, but it worked because Angelina Jolie is really appealing as Lara Croft.

[ribboninthesky1]

I'm not a gamer at all, but I have seen Warcraft and Assassin's Creed.  I thought both were entertaining, but it was obvious in both that the audience was basically dropped into the middle of the story. So I definitely see starri's point.

Also, I thought Warcraft did fairly well overseas, though probably not enough for a sequel. 

[SeanC]

1 hour ago, starri said:

It's not even that, it's just that in a lot of games, especially those in the last ten years or so, have really complex stories that take a while to tell.  There's no way to condense a 30 hour game into a two hour movie.

I think a big part of the problem is that complex video games are designed to be interesting because you're the person making decisions.

[starri]

3 minutes ago, SeanC said:

I think a big part of the problem is that complex video games are designed to be interesting because you're the person making decisions.

Partly, but sometimes the stories are a lot deeper than you can get through in the average movie runtime.

They've been trying to adapt the Uncharted series (think Indiana Jones if written by Joss Whedon) for years, and it literally could never work.

[Morrigan2575]

36 minutes ago, starri said:

Partly, but sometimes the stories are a lot deeper than you can get through in the average movie runtime.

They've been trying to adapt the Uncharted series (think Indiana Jones if written by Joss Whedon) for years, and it literally could never work.

I've been begging for Disney to make Knights of the Old Republic into a movie but, that's such a rich/complex story it would probably take a trilogy to do it justice.

It pains me that videogame movies can't seem to work. There are so many good stories in even the simplest games.

[starri]

1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I've been begging for Disney to make Knights of the Old Republic into a movie but, that's such a rich/complex story it would probably take a trilogy to do it justice.

I honestly don't think KOTOR could be done better than BioWare/Obsidian did it.  The most you'd get would be flesh and blood actors.  

[Morrigan2575]

21 minutes ago, starri said:

I honestly don't think KOTOR could be done better than BioWare/Obsidian did it.  The most you'd get would be flesh and blood actors.  

Very true it is an excellent story and, it never gets old. I just think they'd be able to expand the Star Wars Universe with some nice non anthology movies by jumping back to the Old Republic timeline.  Plus I really really want a droid to say Meatbag ?

[starri]

1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Plus I really really want a droid to say Meatbag ?

Oh, K2, what could have been...

I wonder what the alt-right shitbags think since R1 was tops at the box office two weekends in a row?

[Morrigan2575]

I originally thought it would top out around 900M and then I revised it to 1 Billion. Now, I'm not so sure, I think 900M will be more accurate. Of course that's nothing to sniff at but, I imagine there will be some people screaming Flop! 

I'm so done with the crazies.  I remember people trying to plan a boycott of TFA because it's leads were non white men (Rey, Finn and Poe).  So, I'm really happy that TFA hit 1.5 Billion and that Rogue One is a success.

Edited December 28, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[Dejana]

I'd think a video game adaptation would it work better as a TV series given the time constraints of a theatrical film. If a TV show based on a video game fails, it may be just as/more costly and timely as a movie, but in the age of streaming TV shows are getting very expensive. Maybe some video game company should hook up with Netflix (if this hasn't happened already). The theory that video game movies are mostly made as ads to sell more video games is probably not off the mark.

Edited December 28, 2016 by Dejana

[proserpina65]

Just wanted to thank everyone for their thoughts about my videogame movie question.  You've given me a lot to ponder.

I've always thought the concept of the Assassin's Creed games was quite interesting, but simply couldn't see how it could work as a movie.  Perhaps Dejana is correct, and it might've been better as a tv series.

Edited December 28, 2016 by proserpina65

[xaxat]

Another theory about the video game movies. Hollywood is terrible at making video game movies. 2016 was no exception.

Quote

All of this stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of how the two different media work. Games are about worlds and systems, relayed through player-driven choices and exploration. Movies are about characters and stories, with the viewer experience entirely guided by the filmmakers. When video game movies don’t work, it’s often because they are overly invested in the worlds and systems that fans already love, at the expense of the characters and stories.

[Dejana]

December 30–January 2, 2017 Box Office:

1 (1)  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $65,522,676 | 4,157 Theaters | $15,762 Avg. | $200M Budget | $440,901,381  
2 (2)  Sing   $57,290,420 | 4,029 Theaters | $14,220 Avg. | $75M Budget | $180,891,910   
3 (3)  Passengers   $21,074,190 | 3,478 Theaters | $6,059 Avg. | $110M Budget | $66,177,803 
4 (6)  Moana   $15,198,280 | 2,775 Theaters | $5,477 Avg. | $150M Budget | $214,257,319    
5 (4)  Why Him?   $13,121,668 | 3,008 Theaters | $4,362 Avg. | $38M Budget | $37,680,255

6 (7)  Fences   $13,111,773 | 2,301 Theaters | $5,698 Avg. | $24M Budget | $32,813,917  
7 (8)  La La Land   $12,576,343 | 750 Theaters | $16,768 Avg. | $30M Budget | $37,291,542 
8 (5)  Assassin's Creed   $11,365,875 | 2,996 Theaters | $3,794 Avg. | $125M Budget | $42,409,393  
9 (11)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $5,612,945 | 1,842 Theaters | $3,047 Avg. | $180M Budget | $225,627,739   
10 (12)  Manchester by the Sea   $5,471,516 | 1,206 Theaters | $4,537 Avg. | $29,696,167  

11 (10)  Collateral Beauty   $5,406,439 | 2,745 Theaters | $1,970 Avg. | $36M Budget | $27,062,056
12 (9)  Office Christmas Party   $4,548,443 | 2,441 Theaters | $1,938 Avg. | $45M Budget | $52,095,118
13 (15)  Lion   $3,002,227 | 525 Theaters | $5,719 Avg. | $6,834,730  
14 (13)  Dangal   $2,691,952 | 338 Theaters | $7,964 Avg. | $10.3M Budget | $9,816,471
15 (14)  Jackie   $2,060,048 | 359 Theaters | $5,738 Avg. | $9M Budget | $7,536,054

16 (16)  Arrival   $1,848,977 | 545 Theaters | $3,393 Avg. | $47M Budget | $92,681,309
17 (18)  Hidden Figures   $1,191,683 | 25 Theaters | $47,667 Avg. | $25M Budget | $2,658,078 
18 (19)  Trolls   $921,563 | 418 Theaters | $2,205 Avg. | $125M Budget | $150,588,191
19 (17)  Doctor Strange   $861,738 | 466 Theaters | $1,849 Avg. | $165M Budget | $230,323,048  
20 (20)  Hacksaw Ridge   $529,446 | 352 Theaters | $1,504 Avg. | $40M Budget | $64,738,291   

Moonlight   $428,490 | 137 Theaters | $3,128 Avg. | $5M Budget | $12,726,817  
Patriots Day   $208,279 | 7 Theaters | $28,571 Avg. | $45M Budget | $689,248  
20th Century Women   $144,582 | 4 Theaters | $36,146 Avg. | $211,958
Silence   $114,010 | 4 Theaters | $28,503 Avg. | $50M Budget | $341,384
Loving   $98,628 | 81 Theaters | $1,218 Avg. | $9M Budget | $7,507,969

Paterson   $92,499 | 4 Theaters | $23,125 Avg. | $123,989 
Elle   $84,651 | 35 Theaters | $2,419 Avg. | $936,429 
Toni Erdmann   $52,761 | 3 Theaters | $17,587 Avg. | $109,523   
Live By Night   $49,882 | 4 Theaters | $12,471 Avg. | $65M Budget | $124,500   
A Monster Calls   $30,058 | 4 Theaters | $7,515 Avg. | $43M Budget | $81,609  

Edited January 4, 2017 by Dejana

[AimingforYoko]

Nice hold for Passengers, it's not going to break any records, but it might be okay.

[Dejana]

International Box Office:

ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY:  $361M Overseas |  $801.9M Global Total
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $551.4M Overseas Total |  $777M Global Total
MOANA:  $189.1M Overseas |  $403.3M Global Total

TROLLS:  $182.5M Overseas |  $333.1M Global Total
MISS PEREGRINES HOME FOR PECULIAR CHILDREN:  $197.9M Overseas |  $285M Global Total
SING:  $103.7M Overseas |   $284.5M Global Total
SULLY:  $109.8M Overseas |  $234.8M Global Total

THE GREAT WALL:  $151.6M Overseas & Global Total
ARRIVAL:  $54.5M Overseas |  $147.2M Global Total
HACKSAW RIDGE:  $78.4M Overseas |  $142.7M Global Total
PASSENGERS:  $60M Overseas  |  $126.9M Global Total

OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY:   $36.9M Overseas |  $89M Global Total
ASSASSIN’S CREED:  $44.8M Overseas |   $87.3M Global Total
ALLIED:  $47.1M Overseas Total |  $86.7M Global Total
LA LA LAND:  $27.8M Overseas |  $65M Global Total
WHY HIM:  $14.3M Overseas Total |  $52.2M Global Total

COLLATERAL BEAUTY:  $20M Overseas |  $47M Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $13.3M Overseas Total |  $23.6M Global Total
RESIDENT EVIL: THE FINAL CHAPTER:  $19M Overseas & Global Total
MONSTER TRUCKS:  $2.8M Overseas & Global Total

[methodwriter85]

4 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Nice hold for Passengers, it's not going to break any records, but it might be okay.

I mean, at this point, it's at least ahead of Allegiant, which had about the same budget. (Yes, I know budgets are more than just the production budget, but we'll just go with the stated number.) It's not a hit but it's really not an embarrassing, career-ending flop, either.

It definitely got helped by it being New Year's weekend.

[raezen]

12 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Nice hold for Passengers, it's not going to break any records, but it might be okay.

I was thinking the same too but then I read somewhere(and of course I can't find this now) that there was a rumour it had to make more like 400m to break  even. If that's true what the hell went on in that court case over the technology?  Because that's the only thing I can think of that would make it that expensive.  

[Dejana]

Tight race for #1 at the box office, the order at the top may change with the final numbers. Plus, bad weather led to lower attendance and closed theaters in several parts of the country, so next weekend might show smaller drops than normal (though not for everything—sorry, Collateral Beauty!).

 

January 6–8, 2017 Estimates:

1 (1)  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $21,972,000 | 4,157 Theaters | $5,286 Avg. | $200M Budget | $477,273,354   
2 (17)  Hidden Figures   $21,800,000 | 2,471 Theaters | $8,822 Avg. | $25M Budget | $24,754,178  
3 (2)  Sing   $19,573,670 | 3,955 Theaters | $4,949 Avg. | $75M Budget | $213,373,315    
4 (N)  Underworld: Blood Wars   $13,100,000 | 3,070 Theaters | $4,267 Avg. | $35M Budget | $13,100,000  
5 (7)  La La Land   $10,000,000 | 1,515 Theaters | $6,601 Avg. | $30M Budget | $51,656,587    

6 (3)  Passengers   $8,800,000 | 3,400 Theaters | $2,588 Avg. | $110M Budget | $80,893,043
7 (5)  Why Him?   $6,500,000 | 2,904 Theaters | $2,238 Avg. | $38M Budget | $48,559,553   
8 (4)  Moana   $6,413,000 | 2,549 Theaters | $2,516 Avg. | $150M Budget | $225,394,182   
9 (6)  Fences   $4,700,000 | 2,368 Theaters | $1,985 Avg. | $24M Budget | $40,663,264    
10 (8)  Assassin's Creed   $3,800,000 | 2,642 Theaters | $1,438 Avg. | $125M Budget | $49,505,783  

11 (10)  Manchester by the Sea   $2,473,985 | 1,054 Theaters | $2,347 Avg. | $8.5M Budget | $33,814,342    
12 (13)  Lion   $2,021,000 | 600 Theaters | $3,368 Avg. | $12M Budget | $9,813,719     
13 (46)  A Monster Calls   $2,019,350 | 1,523 Theaters | $1,326 Avg. | $43M Budget | $2,110,842   
14 (9)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $1,925,000 | 1,188 Theaters | $1,620 Avg. | $180M Budget | $229,181,573
15 (11)  Collateral Beauty   $1,340,000 | 1,402 Theaters | $956 Avg. | $36M Budget | $29,895,265          

Jackie   $1,000,000 | 353 Theaters | $2,833 Avg. | $9M Budget | $9,196,551    
Arrival   $815,000 | 381 Theaters | $2,139 Avg. | $47M Budget | $94,077,522
Silence   $480,000 | 51 Theaters | $9,412 Avg. | $50M Budget | $862,423     
Moonlight   $358,225 | 135 Theaters | $2,654 Avg. | $5M Budget | $13,262,486  

Hacksaw Ridge   $205,000 | 222 Theaters | $923 Avg. | $40M Budget | $65,092,345
20th Century Women   $142,824 | 10 Theaters | $14,282 Avg. | $395,412    
Railroad Tigers   $127,600 | 42 Theaters | $3,038 Avg. | $50M Budget | $127,600     
Patriots Day   $105,000 | 7 Theaters | $15,000 Avg. | $45M Budget | $870,414  

Nocturnal Animals   $88,760 | 73 Theaters | $1,216 Avg. | $22.5M Budget | $10,429,064   
Elle   $50,492 | 36 Theaters | $1,403 Avg. | $9.1M Budget | $1,018,387   
Loving   $46,330 | 65 Theaters | $713 Avg. | $9M Budget | $7,591,432  
Toni Erdmann   $34,737 | 3 Theaters | $11,579 Avg. | $3.2M Budget | $161,128
Live By Night   $28,000 | 4 Theaters | $7,000 Avg. | $65M Budget | $169,490

[ribboninthesky1]

Go Hidden Figures, Go! The theater average is outstanding. 

[SeanC]

The actuals have come in and Hidden Figures was actually the #1 film -- what a twist!

[AimingforYoko]

Wow, they underestimated the film by a million. I guess Denzel really is a draw. (I know, I know. But I'm going to beat this joke into the ground.)

[Dejana]

It doesn't look like Rogue One was overestimated (it was actually $91K under its estimate) but Hidden Figures came in a lot higher than anticipated, though other studios (besides Disney) did say hint on Sunday that HF had won the weekend. The final figures:

 

1.  Hidden Figures   $22,800,057  |  $25,754,235   
2.  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $22,063,570  |  $477,364,924   
3.  Sing   $20,712,365  |  $214,512,010   
4.  Underworld: Blood Wars   $13,688,751  |  $13,688,751  
5.  La La Land   $10,132,213  |  $51,788,800    
6.  Passengers   $8,816,213  |  $80,909,256    
7.  Why Him?   $6,901,730  |  $48,961,283    
8.  Moana   $6,384,485  |  $225,365,667   
9.  Fences   $4,813,606  |  $40,776,870    
10.  Assassin's Creed   $4,178,643  |  $49,884,426    
11.  Manchester by the Sea   $2,517,794  |  $33,858,151    
12.  A Monster Calls   $2,080,051  |  $2,171,543   
13.  Lion   $2,073,433  |  $9,866,152  
14.  Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them   $1,923,459  |  $229,180,032    
15.  Collateral Beauty   $1,291,048  |  $29,846,313    

 

Worldwide Box Office:

ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY:  $437.1M Overseas  |  $914.4M Global Total
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $567M Overseas  |  $796.1M Global Total
MOANA:  $224.7M Overseas  |  $450M Global Total
SING:  $143.5M  |  $356.9M Global Total

PASSENGERS:  $104.6M Overseas  |  $185.5M Global Total
THE GREAT WALL:  $178M Overseas & Global Total
ASSASSIN’S CREED:  $98.1M Overseas  |   $148.4M Global Total

ALLIED:  $52.4M Overseas  |  $92.2M Global Total
LA LA LAND:  $34.7M Overseas  |  $86.5M Global Total
WHY HIM?  $25.8M Overseas  |  $75M Global Total
COLLATERAL BEAUTY:  $30.4M Overseas  |  $60.2M Global Total

UNDERWORLD: BLOOD WARS:  $45.2M Overseas  |  $58.9M Global Total
A MONSTER CALLS:  $34M Overseas  |  $36.1M Global Total
RESIDENT EVIL: THE FINAL CHAPTER:  $27.3M Overseas & Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $15.2M  |  $25.6M Global Total
MONSTER TRUCKS:  $9.3M Overseas & Global Total

Edited January 10, 2017 by Dejana

[proserpina65]

17 hours ago, SeanC said:

The actuals have come in and Hidden Figures was actually the #1 film -- what a twist!

Wow, that's terrific!  It's great to see what looks like an intelligent film (disclosure - I haven't seen it yet but intend to) featuring a diverse story and cast doing so well.  Proof that small films about lesser known subjects with minority casts can succeed.

[Dejana]

January 13–15, 2017 Box Office:

1 (1)  Hidden Figures   $20,853,947 | 3,286 Theaters | $6,346 Avg. | $25M Budget | $55,237,047
2 (5)  La La Land   $14,533,070 | 1,848 Theaters | $7,864 Avg. | $30M Budget | $74,114,639            
3 (3)  Sing   $14,240,380 | 3,693 Theaters | $3,856 Avg. | $75M Budget | $233,455,900    
4 (N)  The Bye Bye Man   $13,501,349 | 2,220 Theaters | $6,082 Avg. | $7.4M Budget | $13,501,349
5 (2)  Rogue One: A Star Wars Story   $13,468,189 | 3,162 Theaters | $4,259 Avg. | $200M Budget | $498,559,923

6 (30)  Patriots Day   $11,613,765 | 3,120 Theaters | $3,722 Avg. | $45M Budget | $12,537,847     
7 (N)  Monster Trucks   $10,950,705 | 3,119 Theaters | $3,511 Avg. | $125M Budget | $10,950,705            
8 (N)  Sleepless   $8,344,128 | 1,803 Theaters | $4,628 Avg. | $30M Budget | $8,344,128
9 (4)  Underworld: Blood Wars   $6,206,099 | 3,070 Theaters | $2,022 Avg. | $35M Budget | $24,322,217
10 (6)  Passengers   $5,345,892 | 2,447 Theaters | $2,185 Avg. | $110M Budget | $89,725,623       

11 (43)  Live by Night   $5,106,046 | 2,822 Theaters | $1,809 Avg. | $65M Budget | $5,291,690
12 (8)  Moana   $4,311,271 | 1,847 Theaters | $2,334 Avg. | $150M Budget | $231,617,396             
13 (7)  Why Him?   $3,591,726 | 1,977 Theaters | $1,817 Avg. | $38M Budget | $55,424,773            
14 (9)  Fences   $2,755,038 | 1,342 Theaters | $2,053 Avg. | $24M Budget | $45,887,400
15 (13)  Lion   $2,292,484 | 575 Theaters | $3,987 Avg. | $12M Budget | $13,335,088   

16 (20)  Silence   $1,984,530 | 747 Theaters | $2,657 Avg. | $50M Budget | $3,066,294
17 (11)  Manchester by the Sea   $1,691,155 | 726 Theaters | $2,329 Avg. | $8.5M Budget | $36,852,933
18 (10)  Assassin’s Creed   $1,388,282 | 968 Theaters | $1,434 Avg. | $125M Budget | $52,891,923
19 (22)  Moonlight   $1,096,097 | 582 Theaters | $1,883 Avg. | $9M Budget | $14,594,857
20 (14)  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them   $941,774 | 502 Theaters | $1,876 Avg. | $180M Budget | $230,813,099

Quite a few stories out this week's box office:

• Rogue One becomes the top 2016 release.
• Sing will take the (unadjusted) record for the highest grossing movie not to reach #1, displacing My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
• Hidden Figures and La La Land are the big winners of the weekend. Very happy that HF gets a full victory lap as the #1 movie in the country after the rankings changed on Monday (after most of the box office headlines have largely faded).
• Meanwhile, the picture isn't so great for awards bait that enters the game late doesn't get nominated for awards (Patriots Day, Live By Night, Silence).
• Lion is finally starting to pick up at the box office—maybe Weinstein can't completely be written off.
• Speaking of which, Viacom (parent company of Paramount) announced last September it was taking a $115 million write-down on Monster Trucks, which a (since fired) studio head dreamed up while watching how much his toddler son loved playing with toy trucks.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Dejana

[Dejana]

Worldwide Box Office:

ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY:  $481.1M Overseas | $980.0M Global Total
FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM:  $571.7M Overseas | $801.5M Global Total
MOANA:  $251.3M Overseas | $482.5M Global Total

SING:  $233M Overseas | $397.3M Global Total
TROLLS:  $186.3M Overseas | $338M Global Total
PASSENGERS:  $147.1M Overseas | $237.1M Global Total

THE GREAT WALL:  $199M Overseas & Global Total
ASSASSIN’S CREED:  $132.4M Overseas | $185.4M Global Total
ARRIVAL:  $65M Overseas | $160M Global Total
LA LA LAND:  $54.8M Overseas | $128.9M Global Total
ALLIED:  $62.2M Overseas | $102.1M Global Total

WHY HIM?  $37.5M Overseas | $92.6M Global Total
UNDERWORLD: BLOOD WARS:  $46.8M Overseas | $70.7M Global Total
COLLATERAL BEAUTY:  $38.3M Overseas | $68.6M Global Total

MANCHESTER BY THE SEA:  $1M Overseas | $37.9M Global Total
RESIDENT EVIL: THE FINAL CHAPTER:  $31.5M Overseas & Global Total
NOCTURNAL ANIMALS:  $16.9M Overseas | $27.4M Global Total

MONSTER TRUCKS:  $14.7M Overseas | $25.2M Global Total
THE BYE BYE MAN:  $1.3M Overseas | $14.6M Global Total
LIVE BY NIGHT:  $3.3M Overseas | $8.9M Global Total
SILENCE:  $2.5M Overseas | $5.5M Global Total

[AimingforYoko]

Top five 2016 releases in worldwide box office are all Disney. Four of the releases will exceed $1 billion.

2017 Disney Schedule: Beauty and the Beast, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. II, Pirates of the Carribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, Cars 3, Thor: Ragnarok and a little film called Star Wars: Volume VIII.

Other than Pirates, all should make huge profits. Disney is not slowing down at all.

[ribboninthesky1]

20 hours ago, Dejana said:

Speaking of which, Viacom (parent company of Paramount) announced last September it was taking a $115 million write-down on Monster Trucks, which a (since fired) studio head dreamed up while watching how much his toddler son loved playing with toy trucks.

From the article: 

Quote

Another problem was that “Monster Trucks” was an original idea that lacked the branding clout of movies based on Nickelodeon and Hasbro properties. 

I suspect this is what really tanked the film.  Of course, I haven't seen it, but based on the trailer, it didn't appear any more dumb than the Transformers films. 

20 hours ago, Dejana said:

10 (6)  Passengers   $5,625,000 | 2,447 Theaters | $2,299 Avg. | $110M Budget | $90,004,731       

 Damn, it still hasn't made back its production budget domestically? It did better overseas, but perception of international box office success seems to depend on how popular the studio is. 

Edited January 16, 2017 by ribboninthesky1

[Dejana]

On 1/16/2017 at 0:04 PM, ribboninthesky1 said:

From the article: 

I suspect this is what really tanked the film.  Of course, I haven't seen it, but based on the trailer, it didn't appear any more dumb than the Transformers films.

IDK, Transformers was a brand but the current movie franchise also tries to appeal to teens and young adults, too, making sure they earn that PG-13 rating, playing up the violence and sex appeal.  Monster Trucks was PG and in a way that was meant to appeal to children (of course, a movie can be PG yet made primarily for adults, like Hidden Figures). An artist who worked on the movie shared some of the original concept art and retweeted a comment that referenced rumors of an early test screening that absolutely terrified a theater full of children, to the point where they lost half the audience. After which, the execs were said to have ordered a complete rehaul of the monster design and extensive re-cutting of the film, pushing the release back a year (at least). It did begin filming in Spring 2014 and the original opening date was supposed to be May 29, 2015, yet it's just being released now: major sign the studio knows they have a turkey on its hands.

 

Quote

Damn, it still hasn't made back its production budget domestically? It did better overseas, but perception of international box office success seems to depend on how popular the studio is. 

Passengers isn't doing amazingly but its prospects looked a lot worse after the toxic reviews and weak opening day. I think it will finish at that mid-range where it's not really a flop that will never turn a profit in time, but isn't a great success, so there's no bragging to be done, either. I don't know if the perception of international success has to do with studio but the budget/marketing costs. Studios get a lower cut of the international box office, so after spending $100-150M on the movie itself, then the tens of millions (or more) promoting it, the hope is probably for more than $300M or so worldwide. I think Sony was hoping for returns along the lines of other recent non-franchise space films like Gravity ($723M worldwide), Interstellar ($675M worldwide) or The Martian ($630M worldwide).

Edited January 20, 2017 by Dejana

[kiddo82]

Good for Hidden Figures.  I have nothing against franchise films but I also want to live in a world where a well crafted modestly budgeted film, a film starring women of color no less, is just as appreciated.  I'm also kind of gleeful to see Patriot's Day underwhelm.  There's just something that feels emotionally manipulative about it.  

Edited January 17, 2017 by kiddo82

[methodwriter85]

7 hours ago, Dejana said:

Passengers isn't doing amazingly but its prospects looked a lot worse after the toxic reviews and weak opening day. I think it will finish at that mid-range where it's not really a flop that will never turn a profit in time, but isn't a great success, so there's no bragging to be done, either. I don't know if the perception of international success has to do with studio but the budget/marketing costs. Studios get a lower cut of the international box office, so after spending $100-150M on the movie itself, then the tens of millions (or more) promoting it, the hope is probably for more than $300M or so worldwide. I think Sony was hoping for returns along the lines of other recent non-franchise space films like Gravity ($723M worldwide), Interstellar ($675M worldwide) or The Martian ($630M worldwide).

Passengers really got helped by that second weekend hold. It definitely could have been much, much worse. I really think it got helped by Rogue One and Sing being sold out, so people would go see it instead.

I'm hoping since it wasn't a flat out bomb, Hollywood might be willing to pair Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt again.

I'm positive at this point, Hollywood's trying to figure out another Emma Stone/Ryan Gosling vehicle. 3rd time's the charm, it seems. (The gangster flick really got screwed by the unfortunate timing and the fact that Emma Stone is really unbelievable as a femme fatale 40's type.)