testardo February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 Depends on which fans. I'm sure there's a faction that doesn't want Becky with Steve on Y&R cause it means "Liz" would "get" "Jason", and some for the reason you say.I would love to see that. I don't care , but I really would hate to see poor becky with him. Link to comment
dubbel zout February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 If he was on all the time telling Sonny and Carly how awesome they are He's been laying it on thick with Sonny lately. Ugh. Did CD really like the Abby story? I thought it was terrible, even with the slight retcon that she was a stripper and not a hooker. Though being "good" sex is often how they "fix" female rape victims, so I guess yay for parity? 4 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 I would love to see that. I don't care , but I really would hate to see poor becky with him. There aren't a ton of great male options in that age range but SBu's Dillon is particularly dull Link to comment
ulkis February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 (edited) There aren't a ton of great male options in that age range but SBu's Dillon is particularly dull Who you calling dull, hater? ETA: oops, I didn't realize you were talking about Y&R. Oh well, I'm still leaving it up! Edited February 20, 2016 by ulkis 10 Link to comment
KerleyQ February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 I'd say it's more that they completely brushed Michael's anger under the rug, not because he's being sidelined. If he was on all the time telling Sonny and Carly how awesome they are, or telling Franco him "accidentally" sending a rapist after him was the best thing that ever happened to him and could they go into business together, that wouldn't be ideal either, heh. I agree. As it is, I get rage blackouts for most of Michael's scenes, because I'm just so pissed off that they had him run right back to Sonny and Carly so easily. We could have had a long term plot of him getting revenge, maybe aided by people like Monica, Tracy, and Jax (if they could get Ingo back for a story arc). We could have seen Sonny really lose, even if he was going to eventually be built back up. Instead he got what was, essentially, a five minute time out, and then everybody loved him once again. Even after Michael gave in and re-established some relationship with him, it should have been "less" than what they previously had. There should have always been some undercurrent there that Michael does not approve of what Sonny does, that he wants nothing to do with it, because the life Sonny lives is why he thought it was perfectly fine to kill Michael's father. All that aside, seriously, Chad? You're lobbying for a re-do on Mabby? Don't try to undo the wonder that was Off-screen Crane. 12 Link to comment
jsbt February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 (edited) It's a real toss-up for my next avatar: Diane guzzling wine at Alexis' post-wedding breakdown, or that picture of Dillion Diplo. I think RC conceived a wonderful shift for Michael when he turned on Sonny over A.J. and fully assumed the mantle of the Quartermaine scion - that's when the actor really came into his own IMO, at least during the last creative regime. His relationship with the Qs, especially Tracy, improved tremendously and the business environment suited him. I also think Chad really felt it was right for the character, and I agree. It really depends on which aspect of Ron's ADD writer's mind would show up per week or month, but I think had it been entirely up to him Michael would probably still be central in that world. That being said A.J. didn't need to die for that to happen, nor did a million other things Ron prioritized over Michael and the Qs. Edited February 20, 2016 by jsbt 14 Link to comment
ulkis February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 His relationship with the Qs, especially Tracy, improved tremendously and the business environment suited him. I also think Chad really felt it was right for the character, and I agree. Even after Michael gave in and re-established some relationship with him, it should have been "less" than what they previously had. There should have always been some undercurrent there that Michael does not approve of what Sonny does, that he wants nothing to do with it, because the life Sonny lives is why he thought it was perfectly fine to kill Michael's father. I'm gonna reply in the Corinthos thread. Link to comment
peachmangosteen February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 (edited) I think the show has sucked since RC/FV brought back their OLTL actors and tried to force them into the canvas I think it has sucked since Guza/Frons turned it into all mob, all the time. It had a brief reprieve where it wasn't entirely horrible at the beginning of RC/FV's reign. Edited February 20, 2016 by peachmangosteen 10 Link to comment
LeftPhalange February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 Does anyone know when Soap Royalty RoHo's contract is up? 6 Link to comment
tvgoddess February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 All that aside, seriously, Chad? You're lobbying for a re-do on Mabby? Don't try to undo the wonder that was Off-screen Crane. Off-screen Crane is right up there with Chandy. 7 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 I think it's sucked since Guza/Frons turned it into all mob, all the time. It had a brief reprieve where it wasn't entirely horrible at the beginning of RC/FV's reign. True. There definitely was a brief improvement when RC/FV started and although I did not enjoy most of the things he wrote for the OLTL characters, I didn't think it was awful until he brought them back as Kiki, Franco, Silas 3 Link to comment
Tiger February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 Da dawq is Rydell Pollster Wallace wearing capris?!? 2 Link to comment
peachmangosteen February 20, 2016 Share February 20, 2016 (edited) Da dawq is Rydell Pollster Wallace wearing capris?!? My mom always says that men in short pants are not to be trusted. Edited February 21, 2016 by peachmangosteen 7 Link to comment
dubbel zout February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 They're cuffed khakis/cargoes, I think. Link to comment
Tiger February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) They're cuffed khakis/cargoes, I think. Ron is to Shelly/Jean as capris is to cuffed khakis/cargoes . . . Edited February 21, 2016 by Tiger 2 Link to comment
LeftPhalange February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 2029. RoHo will be transferred to an ABC talk show when GH is cancelled. 11 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 I think he'd sooner hang himself. As a fan of Roger Howarth, I feel bad for laughi- no. I don't. My favorite character is dead. I want to see Mo and BryDawg on this as well. It can be a lifestyle show. 1 Link to comment
katie9918 February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 True. There definitely was a brief improvement when RC/FV started and although I did not enjoy most of the things he wrote for the OLTL characters, I didn't think it was awful until he brought them back as Kiki, Franco, Silas In my opinion, Ron had one good year, his first year. In particular, I remember being impressed by Sonny in the first time in at least a decade when he stood by Konnie once he realized what was going on with her. Once they actually brought back the OLTL actors as new characters and brought in the retconned Jeromes, it was all downhill from there, with the sole exception of the emergence of Michael Quatermaine. 3 Link to comment
yowsah1 February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 RoHo will be transferred to an ABC talk show when GH is cancelled. "Regis and Soap Royalty Roger Howarth". 8 Link to comment
Asp Burger February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) The Crew: Daytime legend Tony Geary presides over a McLaughlin-style panel show, with soap royalty Roger Howarth, Maurice Benard, the guy who plays Max, and Bryan Craig taking part in a freewheeling, no-holds-barred discussion of social issues and trends from the masculine perspective. Get The View...savor The Chew...kick back with The Crew! Edited February 21, 2016 by Asp Burger 17 Link to comment
Francie February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 RoHo will be transferred to an ABC talk show when GH is cancelled. I think he'd sooner hang himself. I could envision it. He's sitting at the table, reading his smart phone or examining his knuckles, and occasionally responds to inquiries about whether he has an opinion with a "Huh? Nah, you're good." I mean, as long as the check cashes. The Crew: Daytime legend Tony Geary presides over a McLaughlin-style panel show, with soap royalty Roger Howarth, Maurice Benard, the guy who plays Max, and Bryan Craig taking part in a freewheeling, no-holds-barred discussion of social issues and trends from the masculine perspective. Get The View...savor The Chew...kick back with The Crew! I'd take that over the Talk with Port Chuck. Where Steve, Scott, Bradford, and Brandon charge the audience $75 for a seat and a picture. Then they mumble a bit amongst themselves while the audience just watches them. If the audience ever starts to turn, Brandon flashes baby pictures, and the audience coos. Though a talk show with the knitting crew might be awesome. 7 Link to comment
UYI February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 He's been laying it on thick with Sonny lately. Ugh. Did CD really like the Abby story? I thought it was terrible, even with the slight retcon that she was a stripper and not a hooker. Though being "good" sex is often how they "fix" female rape victims, so I guess yay for parity? It could be more that he liked working with Andrea Bogart than the story in particular. 1 Link to comment
UYI February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 I'd take that over the Talk with Port Chuck. Where Steve, Scott, Bradford, and Brandon charge the audience $75 for a seat and a picture. Then they mumble a bit amongst themselves while the audience just watches them. If the audience ever starts to turn, Brandon flashes baby pictures, and the audience coos. Followed immediately by a special Monavie tasting session. 10 Link to comment
Asp Burger February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) From what I've seen on social media, however, Bry-dawg and and Duelly are tight, yo. So while Chad may want a better story for Michael, I don't think he resents the attention BC is presently getting. I could be wrong, of course. Many actors are cutthroat, competitive types, even with their friends. But these two obviously hang out and do a lot of things together that aren't necessarily part of the job, judging by photos that get posted. There seems to be a lot of affection among that part of the cast, the various portrayers of Sonny's male and female children and MB himself. Edited February 21, 2016 by Asp Burger Link to comment
tvgoddess February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 Yeah, Chad and Brydog are doing an event together. They do Periscopes together, they seem to be pretty friendly. And before CD and KA broke up, the two couples did a lot of hanging out. Link to comment
dubbel zout February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) BryDog is probably more jealous of CD than the other way around. Plus, he has his girlfriend to egg him on. Edited February 21, 2016 by dubbel zout Link to comment
ulkis February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) BryDog is probably more jealous of CD than the other way around. Plus, he has his girlfriend to egg him on. Yeah. After all, Chad already has an emmy. Chad seems like he's just happy to have a job and then go home and be a goofball. Edited February 21, 2016 by ulkis Link to comment
mybabyaidan February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 It's a real toss-up for my next avatar: Diane guzzling wine at Alexis' post-wedding breakdown, or that picture of Dillion Diplo. Why pick? Photoshop that shit together....I am already picturing it....Priceless. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 21, 2016 Share February 21, 2016 (edited) Frank Valentini('s intern) tweet: Fan February continues on tomorrow's all new very special & very sexy GH. Don't miss #GHWildWinter ...does the show not realize you actually have to do something for the fans when you call it "Fan February". There wasn't even the BS character you'd like to see poll like last year, just the awful Michael Easton news. Edited February 21, 2016 by TeeVee329 3 Link to comment
tvgoddess February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 What the hell is sexy about this wedding? All the bullets that will be flying? 1 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 What the hell is sexy about this wedding? All the bullets that will be flying? I guess the Alexis/Julian video that they had online? Link to comment
TeeVee329 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 What the hell is sexy about this wedding? All the bullets that will be flying? Or special. Bullets fly at Port Charles weddings. All. The Goddamn. Time. 3 Link to comment
jsbt February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 (edited) Roger Howarth discusses going from Todd to Franco. I think he's being as honest as he can be about the disaster of the character he's still playing, at least in this clip, but I am amazed that he says he didn't understand why the character wasn't going over with the audience since "I was doing what I always do." Anyone know if he discussed OLTL at length at all? That's for the OLTL thread, probably. Edited February 22, 2016 by jsbt 1 Link to comment
LeftPhalange February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 I am amazed that he says he didn't understand why the character wasn't going over with the audience since "I was doing what I always do." 1) Maybe Franco isn't going over well with the audience because they're not interested in seeing a serial killer being treated as a romantic lead. You know, like being paired with the mother of the son he got raped. 2) You "doing what you always do" is part of the problem. No one is interested in seeing a serial killer version of Todd. 13 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Todd also got a years long redemption arc with self-loathing and real relationships built over time - not a fuckin' DVD party and a tumor 18 Link to comment
Bwill3133 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Todd also got a years long redemption arc with self-loathing and real relationships built over time - not a fuckin' DVD party and a tumor Oh the DVD. Who can forget that week long redemption party? 1 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 I think it highlights a few huge problems : 1.) Roger wanted to play a very different character. He even dyed his hair blonde. He was directed to "do what he always did." He states that he knew Franco wasn't working, but didn't get why since he was following his bosses ' orders. (Roger Howarth doesn't do social media and admits he didn't watch JF do Franco and explains why.) 2.) Roger openly states about ME returning "I think the world of the guy, but what character is he going to play?" 3.) A fan tells Roger that ME is playing a Cassadine. Roger responds he's jealous. He says he wishes he was playing one or a Quartermaine. Which is just bringing the question why didn't they beef up the Q's? 2 Link to comment
Tiger February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 What's interesting is that originally RoHo was going to a play a Q and a Cassadine! He was going to play Alexander Quartermaine, the son of Tony Cassadine & Alexandra Quartermaine. And then they changed it to Franco at the last minute. 3 Link to comment
Sake614 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Okay this is really scary. I was NOT the woman asking the questions. I swear I wasn't. But she sounded EXACTLY like me. Right down to her laugh! Lol! All that aside, this is probably the most I've ever heard RH talk. He certainly never did press at OLTL. But I thought he said he was doing the same thing he always did TO PREPARE for the role, not just 'I was just being me, doing my same old shtick,' 5 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 (edited) Well, damn. Now I feel kinda sorry for RoHo. It's not his fault that his bosses were stupid enough to believe that Franco would be a viable character. He's not and I want him gone yesterday but I feel badly for the guy who is dealing long-term with RC's shitty decision making.Of course, I feel worse for the audience sitting through the Franco storylines so I'm still actively rooting for Jasus to murder Franco - since no one else has bothered to do it and AJ (my hero!) was pulled off when he tried to throttle him Edited February 23, 2016 by Oracle42 4 Link to comment
jsbt February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 (edited) I never found that Quatermaine/Cassadine rumor remotely plausible. I think it was fanfic. I think RH is probably a nice guy IRL and certainly seems to be in that clip but I don't feel sorry for him - he's being paid very handsomely to deliver this show's vision of a romantic serial killer. If he had a bigger problem with it he'd walk, he's done it before. Edited February 22, 2016 by jsbt 8 Link to comment
LeftPhalange February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Maybe I'm wrong, but Ron and/or Frank were desperate to keep the OLTL three on the show at all costs so I feel like RoHo could have used that to his advantage to get himself a better character to play. 2 Link to comment
Oracle42 February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 (edited) It's too bad about the Q/Cassadine idea; it's better than RC's choice - and that character could've done RoHo's schtick, the Carly romance and the Q shenanigans without the visceral disgust created by having Franco in those stories. Hell, a reveal that he was actually the child of Heather and Scott pulling a con could've been downright enjoyable. Edited February 22, 2016 by Oracle42 2 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Roger Howarth dresses and does his hair way better than Franco. Also, certain ahem actors and writers can take note- this is how you publicly say you dislike/disagree with your story/character /network without looking extremely childish. I respect Roger for that. Oddly, I respect him for not being a giant diva and demanding a better character as well because it seems like he's matured as a person since the 90s/early 2000s. I'd buy his tell all book. 2 Link to comment
amaranta February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 (edited) But I thought he said he was doing the same thing he always did TO PREPARE for the role, not just 'I was just being me, doing my same old shtick,' That's what I heard too. That he has a process and a way he does his homework but he wanted to play a completely different character. And that he got conflicting notes and direction both as Todd and as Franco. That's the first time I've ever seen Howarth talk as himself and out of character. I think I get what he was trying to say. And he seems like an okay guy. Edited February 22, 2016 by amaranta 4 Link to comment
linsav February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Okay this is really scary. I was NOT the woman asking the questions. I swear I wasn't. But she sounded EXACTLY like me. Right down to her laugh! Lol! All that aside, this is probably the most I've ever heard RH talk. He certainly never did press at OLTL. But I thought he said he was doing the same thing he always did TO PREPARE for the role, not just 'I was just being me, doing my same old shtick,' You are correct he said he was doing the same thing TO PREPARE. Maybe I'm wrong, but Ron and/or Frank were desperate to keep the OLTL three on the show at all costs so I feel like RoHo could have used that to his advantage to get himself a better character to play. I seem to recall that several people leaked that when RoHo complained that RC and FV told him he was under contract and they had decided he was going to play Franco and that he would or be in breach-of-contract. Not sure if that went down. He must have negotiated quite a contract to resign if that was the case. 1 Link to comment
dubbel zout February 22, 2016 Share February 22, 2016 Good for him. If he thought playing Franco was wrong, I'm all for him sticking it to Frank and Ron. That character never should have been resurrected. 3 Link to comment
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