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On 10/28/2024 at 1:18 AM, Vermicious Knid said:

The news is...there is no news. RealityBlurred's Andy Dehnart actually went right to the source:

The season was filmed, but I wonder if this is them low key cancelling it. 

This is what I found most interesting from the article you quoted, in part, above. It also says:

"I’m hoping [Say Yes to the Dress] — and all others — aren’t affected by the disaster that is Warner Bros. Discovery. Its latest earnings report was dire, saying that its TV channels like TLC and Food Network are collectively worth $9.1 billion less than before. Oof."

If they've already filmed and edited all of season 23's episodes then most of the money budgeted to produce the season has already been spent. So why in the world would they keep them sitting on a shelf, especially in light of how popular the program is? If the show is no longer profitable, why are they continuing to air reruns of episodes from past seasons instead of the new episodes from season 23?

I'm not in the TV industry (clearly!) but I would think the advertising rates for new episodes of a series aired in primetime are higher than the advertising rates for reruns of old episodes from the same series aired during the day, or after midnight, no?

Because of this, holding back the season seems really counterproductive if TLC is losing money.

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On 1/10/2025 at 4:10 PM, ML89 said:

Well, they did shelve a movie they spent $90 million on, as a tax writeoff because they didn't think it was "good enough" or something, so...

New "executives" come in...some with no showbiz experience and throw their weight around, making insensible changes.  It's UNbelievable how many quality programs/series are shelved.  Often the cast/crew were paid, so there's no huge outcry.

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On 3/7/2025 at 2:10 AM, BennyB said:

I'm keeping my 🤞 because in the first quarter of 2024 multiple media outlets announced season 23 was scheduled to begin airing Saturday April 6, 2024.

April 6th came and went with no SYTTD, nor was there any explanation given as to why from any media outlets or TLC.

So we'll see. Or maybe not see - just like last year. ☹️

 

 

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13 hours ago, Grizzly said:

I'm not in love with either of her dresses. But I prefer the first one. Not a fan of one shoulder.

Congrats to Dorothy!  I've always liked her on the show.  I wasn't wowed by either dress, but I think once they're properly fitted, they'll look good.  There are many brides who have tried on dresses that I thought were kind of iffy, but once fitted properly, I usually changed my mind.  The material on the second dress did look very soft and flowy.  

 

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13 hours ago, Grizzly said:

Wow, good for Dorothy to lose so much weight. I'm not in love with either of her dresses. But I prefer the first one.

Agree @Grizzly. In fact, I thought both dresses looked somewhat similar, although one had a cape and the other was one shoulder. But Dorothy loved them and was glowing and I agree with @Chit Chat, proper fitting will make a big difference. 

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I am not normally a one shoulder fan but I actually liked Dorothy's second dress.  And I loved the fact that she met her fiance through his ex-wife.

6 hours ago, woofy said:

Did the couple who had Randy marry them have a marriage license? 

Probably since there was nothing 'surprising' about this to production unless they didn't want to be married officially.

Did anyone else watch SYTTD with Tan French?  It looks like it's a reboot of the British version.  I miss Gok but I found myself enjoying this version too.  For one, it was just nice to have so many brides.  The American version has gotten so stingy.  We only really had one bride look for a dress last night and Dorothy who had a dress and tried on one that replaced it. 

The British version had three brides with different needs. 

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Yes, the British version with Tan did give us more brides and dresses. Problem is, the best dress of the night was Mandy's custom one that didn't look bridal. The blonde was put into 3 strange dresses. And the indecisive/grieving bride made me want to grab a pair of scissors. Her hair kept us from seeing the tops of the dresses. And those shoulder "straps" did nothing. What they did for her veil was absolutely gorgeous!

Tan was pleasant enough and I'll be watching next week.

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So...I'm thrilled for Dorothy, truly! Finding your soul mate at 65 is such a beautiful thing! I have to say that the second dress did nothing for her, IMO. It was very similar in shape and drape to the wedding dress with long veil cape. Perhaps when it's tailored to hold her girls up it would look nicer but I thought her first dress was IT for her. I didn't quite understand if she was ditching the first dress complete or not at the end of the show. 

All the other stuff was manufactured drama and I was nit interested in it.

Tan France is no Gok, that's all I'm gonna say. I miss Gok!

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The new episode was a complete snoozer.

God bless Dorothy but obviously the second dress with the new designer was staged - that she would fall in love with a dress and have it fit her more or less.

And the completely planned wedding at Kleinfelds - do they think people are so gullible as to believe everyone was surprised and that a dress which fit and flattered a large pregnant woman hadn't been tried on prior to the filming day? 

I haven't watched the Tan show which my DVR recorded but I will try it.

Oddly the show didn't air on the appropriate streaming service so I was lucky that my trusty DVR recorded it. 

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On 4/7/2025 at 9:01 PM, amarante said:

The new episode was a complete snoozer.

God bless Dorothy but obviously the second dress with the new designer was staged - that she would fall in love with a dress and have it fit her more or less.

And the completely planned wedding at Kleinfelds - do they think people are so gullible as to believe everyone was surprised and that a dress which fit and flattered a large pregnant woman hadn't been tried on prior to the filming day? 

I haven't watched the Tan show which my DVR recorded but I will try  it. 

Great points @amarante. Give the Tan show a try. I enjoy the more varied dresses they had. Blonde bride had 3 incredibly different dresses. Not sure I loved what she picked, but she did and so did her future in-laws. So can someone explain what a British wedding dress is? I watched all of Gok (who is the best), and never heard the term.

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2 hours ago, BAForever said:

Great points @amarante. Give the Tan show a try. I enjoy the more varied dresses they had. Blonde bride had 3 incredibly different dresses. Not sure I loved what she picked, but she did and so did her future in-laws. So can someone explain what a British wedding dress is? I watched all of Gok (who is the best), and never heard the term.

The Tan show is still on my DVR so I will watch it. I tend to watch stuff on my streamers because it is easier

I liked him on Queer Eye in terms of his fashion sensibility and his demeanor. 

This episode of Say Yes was particularly boring since it was all about the boring back stories and seemed particularly fake. I mean god bless Dorothy but I don't believe for a nano-second that the second designer dress was not something that had been decided upon before and the wedding of the couple was particularly ridiculous. The weddings in the prior seasons are only tolerable because they are short AND because it is interesting to see how the bride looked in full regalia with her hair and makeup done. 

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15 hours ago, BAForever said:

Not sure I loved what she picked, but she did and so did her future in-laws. So can someone explain what a British wedding dress is? I watched all of Gok (who is the best), and never heard the term.

I suspect she meant by a British designer.  That's why they started at the boutique of that one designer before landing on the one she chose.

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What has happened to this show?  It's barely watchable now.  When it was a half hour, you got two brides and alterations or three brides and saw a variety of lovely dresses with consultants who knew the stock and were experienced.  Then they went to one hour and started emphasizing the hideous Pnina dresses (fortunately, they seem to have backed down from that), ridiculous freaks,  waste-of-time sob stories, entourages, "baby" consultants, etc.  Even Randy is becoming a caricature of himself.

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16 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

The person who’s Non-binary kept saying he didn’t want to look like a man in a wedding dress.  Well hell, that’s exactly what they were. They’re  still a man wearing a wedding dress. 

I found their discussion of what they wanted, how they hoped to look on their wedding day to be somewhat confusing.  I guess, like a lot of Kleinfeld's clientele, they didn't really know what they wanted and I wasn't surprised when Randy and the new consultant had a hard time finding dresses/jumpsuits for them.

Also, if you really want a jumpsuit or a red dress or something equally original for your wedding; shopping at the ultimate traditional bridal shop is not the way to go.  Kleinfelds seemingly had maybe 5 jumpsuits, most of which were brought in from elsewhere for that specific appointment, meaning the consultants barely knew anything about them and had a hard time picturing alterations.  As for the dress they chose, for which they were supposedly going to remove the skirt and have pants made from the fabric; there is going to be a huge requirement in time and money to get an unpredictable result. They should've found a seamstress who could listen to their ideas and whip up the perfect outfit that fit the bill.

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20 hours ago, BAForever said:

I'm actually enjoying Tan more than OG. At least they are showing more diverse dresses.

I'm going back and watching the early seasons of SYTTD (NYC), and there are several dresses that tend to get tried on over and over again.  That gets old quickly. 

Tan certainly features some very unique dresses, but I'm enjoying seeing something different for a change! 

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1 hour ago, Notabug said:

They should've found a seamstress who could listen to their ideas and whip up the perfect outfit that fit the bill.

I actually preferred the one top their friends thought was "matronly."  I think that top with some tight white pants/jeans that got bedazzled would be a great gender neutral look for the reception.

But with respect to them not knowing what they wanted, I don't blame them.  They want something uniquely custom and unless they find examples to show the staff, it's going to be the trial and error this appointment ended up being. 

I'd love to see the final product. 

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Common misconception that Keinfeld's carries every line. They only have select brands although some are exclusive to them. The do not carry, for instance, Vera Wang bridal. Kevin should have had something custom made by a tailor or seamstress if they really wanted a jumpsuit. Since this was already in the can a year ago presumably everyone we see has gotten married at this point (and maybe divorced!) including Dorothy. I'm 1) not interested enought to look any of the brides up and 2) not on social media at all. 

My DVR has decided it's one 2 hour program so I have both getting recorded. Tan is definitely no Gok but it's okay. The two assistants seem to be useless. The dress for the Nigerian-British bride had absolutely no resemblance to the mock-up apart from still being black and gold. And I hated the dress the designer was wearing which I'm sure was her own creation. If I had seen that I would have said "Nope. Find someone else".

I don't know why the Indian bride's family was loosing their shit over a black dress and pushing her for traditional Western white. Indian brides don't wear white. I can imagine there was a lot of browbeating not shown on the episode in keeping with her comment that they were not happy she was marrying a non-Indian man. Also did not like the dress in the last episode for I think Asian bride. With the giant cape/cowl thing across the front. Looked very severe. 

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21 hours ago, roughing it said:

I've decided to pass on watching SYTTD, although I'll probably keep reading your comments.

I skipped the latest one (except for Tan's show).  I'll wait and see what the previews are for the upcoming SYTTD shows and I may or may not watch them.  I'm kind of meh on the newer season.  I've been catching up on the original ones, but I FF about 3/4's of the show.  I just want to see the dresses!  No to the drama!

On 4/16/2025 at 9:25 PM, Vermicious Knid said:

I don't know why the Indian bride's family was loosing their shit over a black dress and pushing her for traditional Western white. Indian brides don't wear white. 

They said it was out of respect for the groom's family, but that's all I heard.  I just can't get on board with a black wedding dress.  It's too macabre.  YMMV.  

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I understand why Lisa chose that expensive dress for Kenzie.  It was beautiful and romantic without being too soft.  Randy's dress was beautiful but would only work on a bride with a softer look who would never have Kenzie's nails.  Lisa usually doesn't go over bride's budgets, but the one thing I don't understand is why would Lisa bring out a dress out of the budget first.  Let the bride try on a lot of other dresses in her price range and if she finds one, wonderful.  If she doesn't and is about to leave, then I can understand pulling a dress out of her price range. If you pull an expensive dress out of budget first, then you risk everything else not measuring up to that dress and the bride going home disappointed.  I'm glad it all worked out in the end, but I was disappointed to see them pull that dress first.   The other alternative since Lisa mentioned speaking to the bride ahead of time and knowing she wanted the bride to try that on is to put the dress on a mannequin on the floor so the bride or the entourage finds it.  If they pull it, it's not really the consultant's fault for tempting her with something out of her price range.

 

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This is not getting better, is it? These 'brides' are so fake fake fake that I wonder if they're just actors or 'influencers'. 

And in the UK show, that hideous mother with the orange hair needs to STFU and her bride-daughter needs to buy her own dress and tell Mommy Dearest to take a hike. And the whack job who was 'marrying' Eduardo the ghost? WTF are they wasting out time with nonsense like this?!?

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2 hours ago, BAForever said:

I enjoyed Orthodox bride, just because she had unique needs. 

It's nice to see Kleinfeld acknowledge the market for a more modest wedding dress.  I would like to see how that dress ended up looking with the alterations.  I'm sure it was beautiful on her. 

I also liked her sales associate, Rochel.  She seems like she'd be great at helping any bride who is struggling with they want versus what the family wants.  It was good to see that the bridal party was respectful, and the bride got what she wanted. All in all, a pretty good episode without too much drama!

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3 hours ago, BAForever said:

Why was the annoying "influencer" there? She was superfluous and added nothing to the appointment.

THANK YOU! She was awful, acting like nobody's ever heard of Orthodox Jewish rules. I know some here have not, but she was soooo over the top and to be honest? Anyone wearing one of those chunky headbands who refers to themselves as a fashionista doesn't know what that word actually means. I'd call her a 'Glamour Don't'.

49 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

It's nice to see Kleinfeld acknowledge the market for a more modest wedding dress.  I would like to see how that dress ended up looking with the alterations.  I'm sure it was beautiful on her. 

I also liked her sales associate, Rochel.  She seems like she'd be great at helping any bride who is struggling with they want versus what the family wants.  It was good to see that the bridal party was respectful, and the bride got what she wanted. All in all, a pretty good episode without too much drama!

Yes! I'm really surprised that it's taken this long to hire an associate who specializes only in religious/modest wedding gowns, particularly since NYC is the epicenter of Orthodox Jewish communities. But no matter, it's nice they offer this and I agree with you, I loved that Rochel was very adamant that the bride is the only opinion that matters. I wish all the associates were like her in that regard. The hideous orange-haired mother in the UK version needed a Rochel to set her ass straight!

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This can't be the first time they have featured a modest bride?  

Maybe they just wanted to highlight their special consultant who works with religious brides. Why would Kleinfeld's overlook any demographic that would increase their market share? (I noticed she did not mention Muslim along with Orthodox Jews, Mormons and Catholics in her list of clientele.)

They did not have any dresses to show her that were modest to begin with?  No dresses with sleeves to the elbow and without cleavage and cut-out backs?

I know there are high-end designers making beautiful and modest dresses that don't need to be customized.

The  consultant said she works with designers who were willing to customize.  This bride had a very short timeline, but presumably the dress she chose will be altered for her.

And she won't need to wear that specialized undergarment she had brought along.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, kirklandia said:

They did not have any dresses to show her that were modest to begin with?  No dresses with sleeves to the elbow and without cleavage and cut-out backs?

I don't think they have as many of those as they do the more normal to more revealing dresses.  

42 minutes ago, kirklandia said:

I know there are high-end designers making beautiful and modest dresses that don't need to be customized.

 

Maybe she wanted a Kleinfeld experience and trusted them to do it right.

43 minutes ago, kirklandia said:

This can't be the first time they have featured a modest bride?

Probably not, but it was a way for them to feature that sales associate in hopes of getting that particular clientele.  I've been going back and watching the show from the beginning seasons, and it seems like they've had other associates who were knowledgeable like Rochel.  It may have been her back then, but I can't remember.  Anyway, maybe Kleinfeld's just wanted to remind people that they provide that particular service.  

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4 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Yes! I'm really surprised that it's taken this long to hire an associate who specializes only in religious/modest wedding gowns, particularly since NYC is the epicenter of Orthodox Jewish communities.

She said she had been there for 22 years.  So she has been there, we just haven't either seen her before or much before.  I seem to recall reading in this forum that they have a section for more religious brides so I've known about those dresses for a while. 

 

1 hour ago, kirklandia said:

Why would Kleinfeld's overlook any demographic that would increase their market share? (I noticed she did not mention Muslim along Orthodox Jews, Mormons and Catholics in her list of clientele.)

I am pretty sure that she did mention all of those groups.  Or am I imagining things?

28 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

She said she had been there for 22 years.  So she has been there, we just haven't either seen her before or much before.  I seem to recall reading in this forum that they have a section for more religious brides so I've known about those dresses for a while. 

Oh I must not have caught that, thank you! That makes a lot more sense now!

28 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

I am pretty sure that she did mention all of those groups.  Or am I imagining things?

She did say she handles all religious groups and any brides wishing for more modest gowns.

It was quite a relief to find a bride who did not appear to be sporting multiple tattoos and piercings.  I fail to understand the woman in white whose clothes were so out of style (that's to my eye, probably quite ok for others).  When their entourage appeared my first comment was "one of these is not like the others".) 

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1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

"I seem to recall reading in this forum that they have a section for more religious brides"  (sorry, quoting out of the box)

It would have been interesting to see the bride being shown a selection of dresses from this section. Dresses designed for modest brides rather than dresses that needed to be customized.

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15 hours ago, kirklandia said:

This can't be the first time they have featured a modest bride?  

I do remember that Ma Dugger went to Kleinfeld's for a vow renewal dress, they hobbled together an unsightly wedding dress, really awful. 

Strange how they don't or didn't have any pret-a-porte for modest brides or maybe we were supposed to believe the drama of it all, you know, will they or won't they have a dress in time.

 

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17 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

She said she had been there for 22 years.  So she has been there, we just haven't either seen her before or much before.  I seem to recall reading in this forum that they have a section for more religious brides so I've known about those dresses for a while. 

 

I am pretty sure that she did mention all of those groups.  Or am I imagining things?

Yes, Kleinfeld's has had a separate showroom, mainly set aside for Jewish Orthodox brides, for many, many years.  We saw it once or twice in the early seasons of the show.  The consultants there are usually also Orthodox and are very well acquainted with the needs and customs of the community and I believe most of them work exclusively with those brides which is why we don't see them on the show very often.

Many of the major bridal manufacturers have a separate modest line each season for brides wanting more coverage for religious or personal reasons.

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They had an Orthodox Jewish bride in one of the early seasons but this is the first in in at least a decade. 

I imagine even those who are buying at Kleinfelds are not willing to be depicted on a television show since it actually would be viewed as not tzunias (modest) to be broadcast.

While most Orthodox Jewish women do cover their hair, there are some Modern Orthodox women who don’t and it didn’t appear that the bride’s mother covered as her curly hair was not a wig. 

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1 hour ago, amarante said:

They had an Orthodox Jewish bride in one of the early seasons but this is the first in in at least a decade. 

I imagine even those who are buying at Kleinfelds are not willing to be depicted on a television show since it actually would be viewed as not tzunias (modest) to be broadcast.

While most Orthodox Jewish women do cover their hair, there are some Modern Orthodox women who don’t and it didn’t appear that the bride’s mother covered as her curly hair was not a wig. 

Nevermind.

15 hours ago, amarante said:

While most Orthodox Jewish women do cover their hair, there are some Modern Orthodox women who don’t and it didn’t appear that the bride’s mother covered as her curly hair was not a wig. 

Thanks @amarante for that info. I thought the consultant had a wig, but was pretty sure mother of bride didn't. 

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