Orion November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Geoff Johns just tweeted it. So glad Arrow sent me my breakup with this show letter in picture form. Makes it a lot easier to walk away now. 11 Link to comment
Anthea November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Ahahah I can't. She looks more like a sadomaso dominator. Oh poor world. 1 Link to comment
KenyaJ November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Is that official? Yep. Geoff Johns and the writers have retweeted it. Link to comment
Password November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) I don't let myself get too worked up over MG's interviews, because things don't usually play out on screen the way he makes it seem like they will, IMO. He's been going on about that one step forward, two steps back relationship crap between O/F since mid-season 2, and it hasn't played out that way. I think that's the way Oliver's been approaching this relationship anyway. He realizes he loves Felicity, it takes him a while to do anything about it. He wants to be with her, it takes him a while to do anything about it. He realizes he doesn't want to lose her to Ray, it takes him a while to figure out what to do about it. To me it's more about stops and starts than moving forward and then back. Yes I pretty much ignore most if not all the EP interviews because they leave bitter tastes in the mouth and make me feel like they're watching a different show. In relation to one step forward and two steps backward, they gotta realise that means Olicity is going backwards. It's definitely not what I'm seeing on screen. It seems more like "step forward, character beats, pause *insert unwelcome obstacle*, unpause, one step forward* etc. So, either Tommy or Sara's going to be alive, right? Probably Tommy, since he's the one with the penis. I would, however, love if the payoff to this stupid not telling Lance thing is that right as Laurel goes to do it Sara shows up at Lance's door, haha. I would suspend every level of belief I have for that one. Seeing them again could be one of those episodes where they do a what-if scenario. Like what would've happened if the QG didn't sink and Oliver and Sara returned unharmed, what if Laurel and Tommy never got together, shoot even what would have happened if Malcolm's wife didn't die. Shows like those episodes. Take Grey's Anatomy. I am now cackeling at that picture of Laurel. Edited November 12, 2014 by Limbo Link to comment
calliope1975 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Fuck this show. What an insult to Sara. I don't know that I've ever felt insulted by a show before. Weird. 11 Link to comment
dtissagirl November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 The fingerless gloves are killing me, you guys. A vigilante that is also an District Attorney, but who cares about leaving prints everywhere, right? 20 Link to comment
Password November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 The fingerless gloves are killing me, you guys. A vigilante that is also an District Attorney, but who cares about leaving prints everywhere, right? BahahahahahahahHahahahahHHHa!!!!!!! 3 Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Someone needs to send the photo to John Campea & Company. I'm suddenly really curious about the AfterShow. I wonder how she gets the costume. I can't imagine the Team hooking her up with it. 2 Link to comment
looptab November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 According to Guggenheim 306 will include a moment fans have been asking for since the start of the series.. what could that be? Link to comment
catrox14 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) JFC. They really did it. What a bunch of crap. You know what. Just spin her off to her own show and let it crash and burn. I am so utterly disappointed. Arrow as been my favorite show for two seasons. I have so looked forward to every Wednesday. And this is just insulting to Sara's and Oliver's journeys. THE SHOW itself established that those two cannot help but be changed by what they went through. Nyssa and Merlyn spent years in the LoA so they're journeys ring true. Heck even Helena had a more compelling and believable backstory than 2 years of Laurel Sue. Roy at least had a background of being a thief on the streets but he had some parkour skills and was a fast runner. And then the Mirakuru infused rage made sense. It was fast but there was a decent basis IMO for his story. FFS even Thea with 6 months of being in lock down with Malcolm works for her being capable with a sword and fighting because you know that would have been 24/7 training because Malcolm is nuts. But this with Laurel? Her scattershot wishy-washy history is a horrible terrible awful premise for her ascension to a hero/vigilante and is laughable compared to EVERY other character that has become a hero/villain what have you. Edited November 12, 2014 by catrox14 13 Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 The episode could end with a shot of Laurel in the suit. I could see them doing that because ep. 7 and 8 seem to be Laurel-Lite (filming schedules and what not). They may be trying to cushion the blow for the portion of the fans who really don't want to see this. Link to comment
Princess Vanellope November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Well...it's been nice knowing you show, but I'm out. 4 Link to comment
Guest November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) Meh. She can suit up all she wants. She's still not a hero yet and she won't be for a long time. A few boxing lessons doesn't mean anything. And as for the question of Laurel's identity, "Am I me or am I my sister?" Well she's already answered it. It's basically a carbon copy. I'm kinda dreading all the online twitter/facebook hype this is gonna get though, even if it's hate. I wish everyone would just remain quiet if they don't like it. The negative buzz is still a buzz and this show doesn't deserve it right now. Edited November 12, 2014 by Guest Link to comment
Soulfire November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 The winter finale better blow me out of the water and not go down the way most expect it to. Otherwise, I'm officially out after 3x09. 2 Link to comment
Danny Franks November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 According to Guggenheim 306 will include a moment fans have been asking for since the start of the series.. what could that be? Doesn't he think that the only reason the fans don't adore Laurel is because she's not a vigilante yet? Yeah. There's your answer. Laurel stealing her dead sister's identity and life is just about the creepiest thing this side of The Flash using his secret identity to hit on his pseudo-sister (who he knows is in a relationship). But I wouldn't be surprised if the earliness of her wearing that costume is because they decide that they actively need to fool Lance into thinking his daughter is alive (because these people are all assholes), so they get Laurel to dress as her and be seen from a distance. A tired old comic book trope, which seems to be where these writers live. 5 Link to comment
apinknightmare November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 According to Guggenheim 306 will include a moment fans have been asking for since the start of the series.. what could that be? Laurel's gonna suit up, I bet. It's logical, since he seems to think the audience's problem with her is because she hasn't. 3 Link to comment
Artsda November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Oye, this show is going down with the having Team Arrow sidelined for this. 1 Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) I'm all but convinced now that Laurel is gonna suit up tonight. 5 years of life and death training for Oliver before he suits up. Another 2 plus years before he considers himself a hero. 6 Episodes for Laurel to suit up. Probably considered a hero mid to late season. UGH Edited November 12, 2014 by 10Eleven12 7 Link to comment
olicityfan25 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 It really is awful. It just looks like to me she's not into the character at all. The stance is so rigid. Link to comment
Guest November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 She probably won't fully suit up tonight but I can totally picture a scene where she puts on Sara's magical leather jacket and then her mask - you know, to see what it's like. Then she'll probably look in the mirror and we'll get a similar flash of how she'll look suited up like they did with Oliver when he first looked in the mirror in his bedroom in the Pilot episode and we saw him in the hood. This show man. LOL. Link to comment
jaytee1812 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I think Laurel looks great as Black Canary, I'm looking forward to seeing her journey. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 She will suit up in episode 10 x.x And i think i will join Oliver in therapy. 4 Link to comment
KenyaJ November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 6 Episodes for Laurel to suit up. Probably considered a hero mid to late season. InstaCanary. The writers aren't even trying to make this believable. 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I actually don't mind the first pic that much, but the one KC just tweeted actually made me laugh, haha. Link to comment
Guest November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I just saw something on tumblr about the IMDB episode description for 306 and it says: S3, Ep6 12 Nov. 2014 GuiltyOliver receives visions about Moira Queen. Meanwhile a close ones true identity is revealed. I haven't heard this one before, is it true? I never go on IMDB so I don't know if it's trustworthy or not but OMG I would kill to see Moira again. Susanna Thompson is truly wonderful, although I've not heard anything about it. Link to comment
dtissagirl November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) Laurel first suits up in 210, right? So that's one of the episodes we're assuming Oliver is missing. So maybe she is suiting up to pretend to be Sara -- to fool Lance, like Danny Franks suggested upthread, or if for some reason they need to keep up appearances that Team Arrow is doing A-OK while Oliver is playing chess with Ra's or something. Edited November 12, 2014 by dancingnancy Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I don't have a problem with the costume and I actually thinks she looks good (other then the fingerless gloves- thats just stupid). My problem lays with the character and the story. 8 Link to comment
Guest November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I actually don't mind the first pic that much, but the one KC just tweeted actually made me laugh, haha. Same. I just laughed out loud at that one. Probably not their intention. Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Yeah, I though Laurel would suit up around episode eleven, but maybe it is tonight since Guggenheim interviews have been pouring out all morning. To avoid getting my post deleted, I'll just say that I don't know what these guys are thinking. They're super stubborn, that's for sure. I hope that the audience response is not kind and that the ratings reflect how people truly feel about this storyline. Link to comment
Soulfire November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) Per Entertainment Weekly online: Black Canary will make her first appearance in the 10th episode of the season, “Left Behind,” with Cassidy apparently black leather from head to toe. Sigh. Edited November 12, 2014 by Soulfire Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 So episode ten is confirmed then. Nice slow burn there, writers. That should be interesting since it sounds like the show will break for mid-season at nine and return in January with episode ten. But will the audience return as well?? Link to comment
statsgirl November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) So she suits up in January? They must be betting that there are more people who want to see Laurel as BC than those who don't like the idea. Maybe Ted Grant had an extra suit in his secret vigilante stash. Also, did Guggenheim just say Grant is her love interest tonight? It really is awful. It just looks like to me she's not into the character at all. The stance is so rigid. That's what you get after a couple of weeks of boxing lessons. And when did she learn to use the stick? Edited November 12, 2014 by statsgirl Link to comment
apinknightmare November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Maybe Ted Grant had an extra suit in his secret vigilante stash. They probably just went to vigilantestyle.com. Didn't Oliver buy Helena's suit on the internet? 6 Link to comment
Sunshine November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 According to Guggenheim 306 will include a moment fans have been asking for since the start of the series.. what could that be? Maybe it's Laurel & Oliver forgiving one another (hug photo anyone?) Link to comment
catrox14 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 She will suit up in episode 10 x.x And i think i will join Oliver in therapy. I think we'll need some hardcore group therapy. 2 Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Isn't Episode 10 Left Behind? Does that mean she could suit up to take Oliver's place? Does that mean that she is trying to take Sara's mantle or is it about Oliver? Link to comment
statsgirl November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 They probably just went to vigilantestyle.com. Didn't Oliver buy Helena's suit on the internet? Whose credit card will she use? Or is the SCPD to incompetent to check out who the new vigilante is? It does look like you can get it at a S&M store though. Isn't Episode 10 Left Behind? Does that mean she could suit up to take Oliver's place? Does that mean that she is trying to take Sara's mantle or is it about Oliver? I wonder if Left Behind refers to Team Arrow being left behind without Oliver. Knowing Laurel and how she feels she's always right, she'll be trying to take Oliver's place. Link to comment
Velocity23 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 and episode 9 will be another edition in the Lance family drama since Laurels mother returns x.x Link to comment
catrox14 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Isn't Episode 10 Left Behind? Does that mean she could suit up to take Oliver's place? Does that mean that she is trying to take Sara's mantle or is it about Oliver? I would be more offended if she takes Oliver's role vs Sara's but either one is bad IMO from a story standpoint. Link to comment
apinknightmare November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 and episode 9 will be another edition in the Lance family drama since Laurels mother returns x.x Does she really? Here's hoping that this idiotic keeping Quentin in the dark storyline has an ending in sight. Link to comment
NumberCruncher November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Isn't Episode 10 Left Behind? Does that mean she could suit up to take Oliver's place? Does that mean that she is trying to take Sara's mantle or is it about Oliver? See, this is what I want to know. IDGAF about Laurel and the BC drama. My reaction to that is "Whatever...next" but damn it--I DO NOT WANT Oliver to disappear and have to endure multiple episodes of her leading Team Arrow. I have zero interest in that. 2 Link to comment
Velocity23 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 DINAH LANCE RETURNS HOME — Laurel (Katie Cassidy) is stunned when her father (Paul Blackthorne) delivers a very special Christmas gift – her mother, Dinah (guest star Alex Kingston). Thor Freudenthal directed the episode written by Jake Coburn & Keto Shimizu (#309). Link to comment
calliope1975 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 If Danny Franks is correct and they use this to fool Lance, I will end up hating everyone involved. That is so cruel. Granted, if it's just Insta!Canary, I will hate Laurel. She's in a no win situation with me. I haven't hated a character like this since Babe Carey. I foresee a lot of ff'd in my future until I eventually just quit and rewatch S2A over and over again. 7 Link to comment
dtissagirl November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 So Quentin's Christmas present to Laurel is Mom, Laurel's present to her parents is... telling them Sara is really dead this time? 6 Link to comment
apinknightmare November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Whose credit card will she use? The company card, under G. Arrowsovich, billed to 123 1/2 Verdant Row, The Glades. So Quentin's Christmas present to Laurel is Mom, Laurel's present to her parents is... telling them Sara is really dead this time? No! She can't tell them, because it's Christmas. Then there's New Years, President's Day, Valentine's Day, The Ides of March, St. Patrick's Day, Easter, Administrative Professional's Day, Cinco de Mayo, Memorial Day, Flag Day, Hammock Day, National S'mores Day...there's just no good time to tell them. 9 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 If Danny Franks is correct and they use this to fool Lance, I will end up hating everyone involved. That is so cruel. Granted, if it's just Insta!Canary, I will hate Laurel. She's in a no win situation with me. I haven't hated a character like this since Babe Carey. I foresee a lot of ff'd in my future until I eventually just quit and rewatch S2A over and over again. You could do what I've been doing. I've been watching episodes of shows that I want to catch up on in Arrow's Wednesday timeslot. I just finished My Mad Fat Diary series 2 and tonight I'm starting Orange is the New Black season 1. So much less stress and anger that way, I tell you. I was holding out hope that things would improve in the back half of season 3, but it doesn't look like. Even the Olicity stuff (if we ever get any, that is) probably won't be enough to keep me around. So disappointing. 1 Link to comment
Chaser November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 I have a feeling that whoever tweeted the BTS of KC stunt double in costume got fired. I can't imagine they wanted people to know when Laurel suits up. Its too big of a plot point to spoil this early. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 (edited) Re: the pics - thank you CW marketing dept for reminding me why I broke up with this show in the first place. Since last week's episode aired I had, against all my better judgement, been toying with the idea of getting back into the show (what can I say? I was addicted to this show). But this killed that idea stone cold. Thanks for the rescue CW! It's appreciated. :) Edited November 12, 2014 by Starfish35 5 Link to comment
SleepDeprived November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Black Canary will make her first appearance in the 10th episode of the season, “Left Behind,” with Cassidy apparently black leather from head to toe. It took Oliver 5 years before donning the hood (Sara took about 5 years, as well), Roy took a season, and Laurel does it all in just 7-8 episodes. Since this will all be happening by January, I am super impressed that one can start kicking asses and go vigilante-ing after training/boxing/going to the gym in just 3 months. All while keeping a fairly demanding job as an ADA of a whole city teeming with crimes and criminals that are probably awaiting trial to be put behind bars. Laurel Lance -- such an inspiration. You really can have it all! So, by episode 10, we'll have Arrow (not yet Green Arrow), Arsenal, and a Black Canary. Among these 3 costumed vigilantes prowling the streets of Starling City, guess which character is supposed to be the best martial artist who can whoop the other two's asses? From all the spoilers we've learned, there is so few that I'm enthused about and a lot that I'm just plain uninterested in. And, unlike Fernlicity, I do not thrive in low light. I really hope all the hype about the crossover and the mid-winter finale will pay off big time. Otherwise, my loyalties might waver and I'll go watch Survivor instead of Arrow on Wednesdays (please, Show, don't make me watch Survivor). 9 Link to comment
Ariah November 12, 2014 Share November 12, 2014 Oh come on, we knew it was coming. She does look strange (it's the lipstick I guess) but it was inevitable. As for insta!Canary - there may be a large time gap (half a year, maybe more) between 309 and 310. It's going to make the transition a little bit more believable. Now I keep my fingers crossed for this Canary to be shipped away to a distant city. That, or I'll fast forward A LOT. Link to comment
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