BW Manilowe April 21, 2018 Author Share April 21, 2018 (edited) From cartermatt.com: Alex O'Loughlin and Scott Caan Both Expected Back for Hawaii Five-0 Season 9 This website, whose owner seems to be a big fan of H50 & a few other TV shows he blogs about regularly, says that, while it isn't set in stone yet, BOTH Alex & Scott are expected back in the show for the upcoming Season 9. Having said that, at least most signs this time last year seemed to say that Daniel Dae Kim & Grace Park would be back for this season--& then they ended up leaving right before filming started. I kinda assumed, once CBS announced the renewal, it meant at least Alex would be back--because I'd think it'd be too hard to do the show with a different lead actor suddenly dropped into the show's universe after 8 seasons. But, a lot of me also felt that CBS probably might've renewed the show for this particular coming season because it will have been 50 years, this year/this September 20th, since the H50 franchise originally debuted on CBS. Who knows? Maybe they're planning some way of making that a big deal on air this season. It always seems easier, to me, to replace the characters who have supporting roles in series (mainly after that long/a similar length of time) rather than whomever's listed at #1 on the call sheet, more often than not, in a season (although, I think Las Vegas did that transition pretty well when Scott's dad decided to leave the show after 4 seasons & he was replaced as the lead by Tom Selleck playing the new character of the new bazillionaire owner of Las Vegas' [fictional] Montecito Resort & Casino in that show's fifth season--Selleck seemed popular in the role, & I don't remember there being as many complaints about him replacing Scott's dad in that show as there may have been about CBS replacing DDK & Grace Park in this season of H50; but unfortunately [as usually happens with a TV show that makes a major cast replacement around at least 5 seasons in], the show was canceled after Selleck's lone season as the lead). Anyway, the point I was trying to make above was that I think (in both versions) that the show could (& did, in both versions) probably get renewed with 1 or more changes in the supporting cast, as time goes on; but if you lose the actor playing the lead--especially when the character is as iconic as Steve McGarrett--that will probably kill the show & they won't even entertain the thought of replacing McGarrett as Five-0 head. Edited April 21, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add comments. Link to comment
Raja April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, BW Manilowe said: From cartermatt.com: Alex O'Loughlin and Scott Caan Both Expected Back for Hawaii Five-0 Season 9 This website, whose owner seems to be a big fan of H50 & a few other TV shows he blogs about regularly, says that, while it isn't set in stone yet, BOTH Alex & Scott are expected back in the show for the upcoming Season 9. Having said that, at least most signs this time last year seemed to say that Daniel Dae Kim & Grace Park would be back for this season--& then they ended up leaving right before filming started. I kinda assumed, once CBS announced the renewal, it meant at least Alex would be back--because I'd think it'd be too hard to do the show with a different lead actor suddenly dropped into the show's universe after 8 seasons. But, a lot of me also felt that CBS probably might've renewed the show for this particular coming season because it will have been 50 years, this year/this September 20th, since the H50 franchise originally debuted on CBS. Who knows? Maybe they're planning some way of making that a big deal on air this season. It always seems easier, to me, to replace the characters who have supporting roles in series (mainly after that long/a similar length of time) rather than whomever's listed at #1 on the call sheet, more often than not, in a season (although, I think Las Vegas did that transition pretty well when Scott's dad decided to leave the show after 4 seasons & he was replaced as the lead by Tom Selleck playing the new character of the new bazillionaire owner of Las Vegas' [fictional] Montecito Resort & Casino in that show's fifth season--Selleck seemed popular in the role, & I don't remember there being as many complaints about him replacing Scott's dad in that show as there may have been about CBS replacing DDK & Grace Park in this season of H50; but unfortunately [as usually happens with a TV show that makes a major cast replacement around at least 5 seasons in], the show was canceled after Selleck's lone season as the lead). Anyway, the point I was trying to make above was that I think (in both versions) that the show could (& did, in both versions) probably get renewed with 1 or more changes in the supporting cast, as time goes on; but if you lose the actor playing the lead--especially when the character is as iconic as Steve McGarrett--that will probably kill the show & they won't even entertain the thought of replacing McGarrett as Five-0 head. James Caan may have been the big name from the movies and listed as number one but he was in the father mentor role he was never the main player on Las Vegas that was Josh Duhamel's Danny McCoy as their Steve McGarrett. James Caan/Ed Deline would have been more in line with Hawaii's Governors than the head of 5-0 if H50 and Las Vegas switched cast. Speaking of which is Rosalind Chao's Governor Keiko Mahoe still considered a character on the show? Edited April 21, 2018 by Raja Link to comment
BW Manilowe April 21, 2018 Author Share April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Raja said: James Caan may have been the big name from the movies and listed as number one but he was in the father mentor role he was never the main player on Las Vegas that was Josh Duhamel's Danny McCoy as their Steve McGarrett. James Caan/Ed Deline would have been more in line with Hawaii's Governors than the head of 5-0 if H50 and Las Vegas switched cast. Speaking of which is Rosalind Chao's Governor Keiko Mahoe still considered a character on the show? She's only physically appeared in the S7 episode with the English title "Ready to Play?, & at that season's SOTB & set blessing, but I'm pretty sure I've heard "Governor Mahoe" (as opposed to just "the Governor") name-checked at least once, if not a little more, since then. I know the Governor is only really supposed to be a recurring character, but I wish they'd go back to physically showing the character more than just mentioning "the Governor" or "Governor (last name or full name)". I mean, it's supposed to be the Governor's task force; I think we need to see her/him a bit more, like when Jean Smart played Governor Jameson (& I realize that was in S1, when they were trying to establish the premise of the show... that it was the Governor's task force) &, at first, when Richard T. Jones played Governor Jameson's successor, Governor Denning (presumably Governor Mahoe is supposed to be his successor; I thought I figured out a way that worked in the timeline, anyway). What, exactly, is the point of it being the Governor's task force if we never see the Governor anymore (& I get that we never saw Robin Masters on Magnum, P.I., even though Magnum lived on Robin Masters' estate; or "Charlie" on Charlie's Angels, among others, & the shows worked out fine... but that was part of the premise of those shows, that there was to be a character we heard about/from but didn't see. The Governor of Hawaii isn't supposed to be a permanently unseen character in the show. If it's a case of actor availability, then--in my opinion--they need to sign someone to play the Governor who's more available than Richard T. Jones seemed to become after awhile, or than Rosalind Chao apparently was (but in looking at her credits on IMDb, there doesn't seem to be that much after her H50 credit). I think Jean Smart was on a reasonable number of times; especially since she was working on another show (recurring character) at the same time. Link to comment
jhlipton April 28, 2018 Share April 28, 2018 It's one thing for 5-0 to pull the illegal stunts they pull as the "Governor's task force", with the Governor not involved, and another if the Governor knows what they're doing. I think it works better this way. Besides, the more they show the Governor, the more likely they are to get killed. Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 4, 2018 Author Share May 4, 2018 From ET Online: Dancing with the Stars' Cheryl Burke Engaged to Actor Matthew Lawrence on Her Birthday Matthew played the recurring character of computer hacker Aaron Wright, who went up against Five-0 early in the still current S8 by doing things like letting another recurring character, arsonist Jason Duclair, out of prison by using his knowledge of computers. Aaron is/was the brother of fellow computer hacker Ian Wright (Joe Jonas), a teenager who got entangled with Five-0 in S4 when McGarrett & Grover went to serve him with a warrant related to 1 or more unpaid traffic tickets, then he escaped from police/Five-0 custody to parts unknown for awhile; then he returned in the S4 Finale & kidnaped Grover's daughter, to force Grover's participation in a theft involving a great deal of money because of Grover helping Steve with the ill-fated serving of the unpaid traffic tickets warrant against him. Grover's daughter was released from Ian's clutches after then-recurring master criminal Wo Fat arrived on the scene, somehow, & shot Ian to death. Also, Matthew Lawrence is 1 of the 2 (of 3 total) acting Lawrence brothers who appeared on H50 in recurring roles this season; brother Andrew Lawrence plays HPD forensic crime lab technician, & Danny's formerly slacker (but still with a tendency to know the wrong time to say the wrong things), nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo. Eric got on the "straight & narrow", & became interested in forensic science/crime lab work, after being sent to Hawaii to spend time with his Uncle Danny & Danny's partner, Steve McGarrett, because Eric's mom couldn't deal with his shenanigans anymore. Matthew's played Eric, as a recurring character, since either S6 or S7, I think. Link to comment
roamyn May 5, 2018 Share May 5, 2018 You’re confusing Matthew with Joey Lawrence. There are THREE brothers, and Joey played Aaron Wright. Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 5, 2018 Author Share May 5, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, roamyn said: You’re confusing Matthew with Joey Lawrence. There are THREE brothers, and Joey played Aaron Wright. You're right. I did confuse Matthew & Joey, as far as which 1 played Aaron Wright on H50 earlier this season. Apologies. Joey did play Aaron Wright, the computer hacker brother of fellow computer hacker Ian Wright (a 2-episode recurring villain character in S4 played by 1 of the 3 Jonas brothers, either Joe or Nick... there's also Kevin, who I know wasn't on H50)--but since I screwed up the Lawrence brothers, as to who played Ian's equally slimy brother, Aaron, I'm not even gonna try to say which Jonas brother (Joe, Nick or Kevin) played Ian. But I did correctly say how many Lawrence brothers there are. I said: On 5/4/2018 at 7:05 AM, BW Manilowe said: Also, Matthew Lawrence is 1 of the 2 (of 3 total) acting Lawrence brothers who appeared on H50 in recurring roles this season; brother Andrew Lawrence plays HPD forensic crime lab technician, & Danny's formerly slacker (but still with a tendency to know the wrong time to say the wrong things), nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo. Eric got on the "straight & narrow", & became interested in forensic science/crime lab work, after being sent to Hawaii to spend time with his Uncle Danny & Danny's partner, Steve McGarrett, because Eric's mom couldn't deal with his shenanigans anymore. Matthew's played Eric, as a recurring character, since either S6 or S7, I think. Maybe I wrote it weird. But I said--& know--there are 3 acting Lawrence brothers total (Joey, Matthew, & Andrew), which I think I also said/proved I know in the first paragraph above. And I said 2 of them--Andrew & Matthew (but I meant Joey)--acted in H50: Andrew, who's recurred since either S6 or S7 as Danny's nephew, Eric "E-Train" Russo, a former screw up who became an HPD Forensic/Crime Lab Technician after being sent to Hawaii, to be straightened out by his Uncle Danny, & following Danny & McGarrett around on a case & discovering he liked, & was good at, finding clues to help the case. Like on the case Five-0 worked on when the Eric character was introduced, which had to do with the murder of a college professor, I think; Eric noticed a bottle or can of pop, at some point, then realized somebody could've (& did) fix it so test answers, or something, were hidden among/in place of all the nutritional info & the usual stuff that comes printed on a bottle/can of pop. And he told Steve & Danny, which helped them with the case. Although there are still some occasions when Eric reverts to his original form & says the wrong thing about something or someone; like he'll make a misogynistic comment about women, in front of a woman, like Kono). Then there's also the previously mentioned Joey (who I called Matthew), who played the equally slimy, computer hacking, character of the brother to the Jonas brother's character. I think he was supposed to have sort of been out for revenge over his brother's death (although Wo Fat killed Ian, not Five-0, though I don't think they ever explained why Wo Fat killed Ian). I may have been wrong about Matthew Lawrence playing Aaron Wright earlier this season, but I realized that the Matthew Lawrence/Cheryl Burke couple does have a bit of a connection to H50 after all, through Cheryl. Back in Spring 2015, while Cheryl Burke was on a break from DWTS, she & Alan Ritchson (who played--in 1 episode--Freddie Hart, Steve's BFF & SEAL team member who was killed on a secret mission inside North Korea, which Steve selected him for, to try & locate the Hesse brothers) were among the celebrities in an NBC primetime variety/game/reality show, I Can Do That, which was apparently based on an Israeli TV show, & the 5-6 celebs in the show (the same celebs were on each week) apparently were tasked with learning how to do something by the next week's show & performing that task on the next week's show. If you did the task, or whatever, successfully, you got a certain number of points; the celeb with the most points accumulated during the season was declared the overall winner, whatever that meant (I think the celebs were competing for charity, but I can't remember now, since it's 3 years later). Edited May 5, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add comments. Link to comment
Moxie Cat May 9, 2018 Share May 9, 2018 EW reports on their "TV deathwatch" page that 5-0 has been renewed. Has this definitely happened? Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 9, 2018 Author Share May 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Moxie Cat said: EW reports on their "TV deathwatch" page that 5-0 has been renewed. Has this definitely happened? It's definitely happened, & to a whole boatload (OK only about 11, really) of other CBS shows, as well, including Lenkov's MacGyver reboot which got a third season. The renewals were announced on Wednesday, April 18th. As the article states, there are still a few veteran series whose fates haven't been determined yet (Criminal Minds & Code Black, which just started airing their S3, among them). We also don't know yet if Lenkov's Magnum P.I. reboot got picked up or not--they should finish announcing the fates of the remaining older shows soon; then they'll get to announcing the first-year shows. According to this, CBS' Upfront presentation, where they'll present their fall schedule to their advertisers (& I think representatives from their local affiliates) is scheduled for 4PM Eastern Time, Wednesday, May 16th, at Carnegie Hall in NYC. That's, like, Wednesday of next week (& 2 days before the H50 season 8 finale airs), so we should hear something soon about the fates of the remaining old shows on CBS as well as which new show pilots got picked up. 1 Link to comment
roamyn May 10, 2018 Share May 10, 2018 I don’t think Scorpion has been announced yet, either. Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 10, 2018 Author Share May 10, 2018 10 hours ago, roamyn said: I don’t think Scorpion has been announced yet, either. It hasn't. There's, like, 11 shows (I think) that CBS hasn't renewed/officially canceled yet (the un-canceled are low-rated shows that have run all the ordered eps, & aren't on the schedule right now, but have yet to either be renewed, by some miracle, or have their likely cancellations officially announced). I couldn't remember all of them. On the comedy side, I think Life in Pieces is another of the 11, or however many it is, shows CBS still has to officially cancel or renew. Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 12, 2018 Author Share May 12, 2018 From the Honolulu Star Advertiser: CBS Picked Up Lenkov's Magnum PI Reboot, But the Article Seems Unclear If It's for Fall or Midseason Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 16, 2018 Author Share May 16, 2018 CBS' Schedule for 2018-19 has been announced. Lenkov's new Magnum PI reboot takes the 9-10PM Eastern timeslot on Mondays that was originally held by the first 2 seasons of his Hawaii Five-0 reboot. CBS' Friday night schedule remains the same as the 2 seasons before this: Lenkov's MacGyver & Hawaii Five-0 reboots air from 8-9PM & 9-10PM Eastern; Tom Selleck's current series, Blue Bloods, continues to close out the CBS Friday night schedule, airing from 10-11PM Eastern. Here's CBS' Complete 2018-19 Schedule, From Variety Link to comment
Raja May 17, 2018 Share May 17, 2018 The new Magnum PI trailer is up, A HPD detective makes a direct reference to a "real 5-0" in it. First Look At Magnum P.I. on CBS 1 Link to comment
Passepartout May 19, 2018 Share May 19, 2018 Peter L is the king of the remakes it seems! 1 Link to comment
BW Manilowe May 23, 2018 Author Share May 23, 2018 From Variety: The 2nd Season of Salvation, Ian Anthony Dale (Adam Noshimuri, Kono's Husband)'s CBS Summer Series, Premieres June 25th at 9PM Eastern Look under where it says DATES. Link to comment
BW Manilowe June 5, 2018 Author Share June 5, 2018 (edited) From seat42f.com: Hawaii Five-0 Season 8 DVDs--USA Release Date and Cover Artwork The Season 8 DVDs will be released in the US on September 4, 2018. Edited June 5, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add italics and to rewrite some things. Link to comment
BW Manilowe June 27, 2018 Author Share June 27, 2018 From Deadline.com: Former Hawaii Five-0 Female Lead Grace Park to Star in ABC's New Drama, A Million Little Things; Her Role Was Recast From the Pilot Link to comment
BW Manilowe June 29, 2018 Author Share June 29, 2018 From Filmmaker magazine: Bryan Spicer on Directing the TV Series Hawaii Five-0 Link to comment
BW Manilowe July 4, 2018 Author Share July 4, 2018 From Reel News Hawaii's Facebook page: Hawaii Five-0 Season 9 Filming Is Scheduled to Start on July 10th, 2018, with a Projected Wrap Date of April 19th, 2019. Link to comment
BW Manilowe July 9, 2018 Author Share July 9, 2018 (edited) From Spoiler TV: CBS Fall Premiere Dates Regarding the 3 Peter Lenkov reboots: Magnum PI premieres Monday, September 24, at 9PM Eastern/8PM Central. MacGyver & Hawaii-Five-0 both premiere Friday, September 28, at 8PM Eastern/7PM Central & 9PM Eastern/8PM Central, respectively. Edited July 9, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add a period. Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 14, 2018 Author Share August 14, 2018 (edited) From the Honolulu Star-Advertiser: ‘Magnum P.I.’ to Screen with ‘Hawaii Five-0’ at Sunset on the Beach This season’s Sunset on the Beach event, celebrating the upcoming 9th season of the current version of Hawaii Five-0 & the 50th anniversary of the premiere of the original Hawaii Five-O, will be held on Waikiki’s Queen’s Surf Beach on September 14th. The event will also celebrate the premiere of the Magnum P.I. reboot. Both series air on CBS & are executive produced by Peter Lenkov (also the executive producer of the MacGyver reboot, which is starting its 3rd season September 28th, also on CBS). This year’s event will include a double feature screening of the 9th season premiere episode of Hawaii Five-0 (scheduled to air on CBS 2 weeks later, on September 28th), followed by a screening of the series premiere of the new Magnum P.I. reboot (scheduled to air on CBS 10 days later, on September 24th). The episode screenings will be followed by a performance from special musical guest Cyndi Lauper. The cast of the updated Magnum P.I. will make an appearance to celebrate the premiere showing of their first episode. CBS announced that all of the main stars of Hawaii Five-0 are expected to attend the screening. Hawaii-based regulars Kimee Balmilero (Dr. Noelani Cunha), Dennis Chun (Sgt. Duke Lukela), & Taylor Wily (Kamekona) will also walk the red carpet beginning at 4:30PM. Edited August 16, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add punctuation. Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 16, 2018 Author Share August 16, 2018 According to multiple sources, including this 1, Chi McBride has written/is writing this season’s Thanksgiving episode. I have to say, I find it interesting that Scott Caan, who’s interested (& has professional credits) in screenwriting & directing, among other things, & is probably the most qualified among the cast to do those things in connection with the show hasn’t done either, so far. He’s left that to DDK (who directed the episode where Steve & Danny went on the stakeout); Alex (who directed & had a “Story by” credit in 2 different eps last season); & now Chi (who’s writing this season’s Thanksgiving ep. Link to comment
kassygreene August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 I read an interview with Caan early on that touched on the constraints of episodic TV: time restrictions, pacing (teaser, act one, act two, act three, act four, usually act five, and tag), broadcast restrictions. I think he perhaps has a lower tolerance for the silly stuff (a Camaro goes nose to nose with a Gulfstream and effectively prevents take-off -- tired trope). I don't care - he gets the character beats of cop, father, and friend, and I enjoy him and the rest of the show. 2 Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 16, 2018 Author Share August 16, 2018 9 hours ago, kassygreene said: I read an interview with Caan early on that touched on the constraints of episodic TV: time restrictions, pacing (teaser, act one, act two, act three, act four, usually act five, and tag), broadcast restrictions. I think he perhaps has a lower tolerance for the silly stuff (a Camaro goes nose to nose with a Gulfstream and effectively prevents take-off -- tired trope). I don't care - he gets the character beats of cop, father, and friend, and I enjoy him and the rest of the show. I totally agree with (I guess that’s the phrase I’m looking for) what you said. I just think it’s interesting he’s the 1 in the cast with the most experience of all the cast members, past & present, in creative areas involved with making the show besides acting, & yet he doesn’t seem interested in doing anything more than acting (& I’m sure there are people out there who’d say, given that the show’s going into its ninth season & he’s been on it from the start, that he’s not even interested in acting in it anymore—besides which, he hasn’t been part of any new “extras” content included in the DVDs [just clips taken from the episodes to illustrate whatever point’s being made, or whatever is otherwise being talked about] since the first season, when “the Core Four” did a commentary for 1 of the eps & he didn’t really participate in it that much & at 1 point, he even seemed to have gotten close to falling asleep, audibly doing the “jerking awake with a start” thing [I think the actual name for that is “hypnic jerk”] before he fell asleep & started snoring on the recording). I’m with you though, as far as the bolded is concerned. Scott definitely gets the character “beats” right (especially when he can do something emotionally with them too, like when Steve’s in danger & Danny’s on the brink of possibly losing him permanently; or when his NJ training partner, a “dirty” cop Danny helped imprison, gets paroled & comes to Hawaii under a pseudonym to take revenge on Danny by kidnaping Gracie because the “dirty” cop’s imprisonment has resulted in an estrangement between him & his wife & son, as opposed to simple “How was your day at school?” scenes with Gracie & Charlie. That’s 1 of the reasons I enjoy him & I still enjoy the show, going into Season 9. 1 Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 22, 2018 Author Share August 22, 2018 (edited) From TV Line: Hawaii Five-0 Casts Rochelle Aytes as Season 9 Baddie (and McGarrett’s Ex!) Edited August 22, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add italics. Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 24, 2018 Author Share August 24, 2018 In case anyone may have had concerns: From Deadline: ‘Hawaii Five-0’ & ‘Magnum P.I.’ Shut Down Production As Hurricane Lane Moves In I’m pretty sure this probably wasn’t the kind of belated birthday present Alex or Scott wanted (though I’m not sure Scott was in Hawaii on or before his birthday; there was at least 1 pic on Social Media of Scott, his partner Kacy, & at least 1 other person at what I think was referred to as something where his birthday was being celebrated, & I got the feeling it was taken in LA though I don’t think it actually said that anywhere connected to the pic). Hopefully Alex & family have battened down the hatches & will be safe for the duration, without injury, or a lotta flooding or other storm-related property damage. Link to comment
HurricaneVal August 24, 2018 Share August 24, 2018 Between the volcano erupting, the storm that washed out the highway leading to half of the north side of Kauai, and now Hurricane Lane bearing down, the islands have been giving the H50 writers plenty of "ripped from the headlines" fodder to use as plot points! Link to comment
Passepartout August 25, 2018 Share August 25, 2018 What I am surprised about is why that of in the Alex and Scott were not made producers. As promised as anybody has the control issues it is that of Peter L. As both men should had been made producers. In particular Alex! Does not make sense. Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 25, 2018 Author Share August 25, 2018 From TV Line: Oscar, Emmy, Golden Globe Winner Louis Gossett Jr. to Play Grover’s Father in Season 9 Thanksgiving Episode, Written by Chi McBride Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 25, 2018 Author Share August 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, Passepartout said: What I am surprised about is why that of in the Alex and Scott were not made producers. As promised as anybody has the control issues it is that of Peter L. As both men should had been made producers. In particular Alex! Does not make sense. Some stars are Producers or Executive Producers (Co-Producers or Co-Executive Producers) of TV shows because they were involved with the show from the time the concept of it was decided, & they usually have a production company to aid in that process (developing TV shows, &/or movies). Like Daniel Dae Kim with the show The Good Doctor. Otherwise, stars of a TV show being made Producers or Executive Producers, after a certain point in the “life” of said show, is usually a contract perk (which I assume comes with additional salary besides whatever the actor is getting per episode for their acting abilities). It’s agreed on to go into effect if production of the show involved reaches a certain number of episodes &/or seasons (& the actor remains with the show that long, of course). At least if the show involved isn’t produced/co-produced by the star’s production company from the time the idea is submitted to a network (or streaming outlet these days). It’s also never an “automatic”, guaranteed thing that’s part of every TV star’s contract if they/their production company isn’t already a Producer or Executive Producer from the beginning, in the sense of “you sign the contract, you’re automatically a Producer or Executive Producer”. It’s negotiated into the contract of the star involved, either from the initial contract deal when they agree to do the show or during any contract renegotiations in subsequent seasons. If it were automatic with every TV star’s contract, there’d be a lot more TV stars who are also Producers or Executive Producers of their shows. It’s usually just an “in name only” thing; most of the actors don’t really have (or necessarily want) any of the actual “power” that comes with that title. Some actors, however, actually do exercise the “power”, “clout”, whatever, in regards to the show that comes with having the title of Producer or Executive Producer. When Daniel Dae Kim & Grace Park left H50 between Seasons 7 & 8, after CBS wouldn’t give them salaries equal to those of Alex O’Loughlin & Scott Caan, it was said in the press stories about the situation that either Alex’s contract, or both Alex & Scott’s contracts (I can’t remember which), included a certain percentage of “profit participation”—he makes/they make a certain amount of money from being in the show besides from acting in it. He makes/they also make money from participating in the show through things like when it’s sold for airing in countries outside the US; maybe also from repeats of the show being sold for airing, either after cancellation or while CBS is still making new episodes, on a cable channel or some other non-CBS network/channel/online streaming site in the US; maybe also from the sales of any officially-licensed merchandise connected to the show, like the DVDs, Blu-Rays, that CD of music from, like, the 1st 2 seasons of the show, the T-shirts & other show-related merchandise they sell at the CBS Store online & elsewhere, the digital downloads of full seasons &/or individual episodes of the show that you can get through sites like Amazon.com, Google Play, & the iTunes Store, those little “Hot Wheels”/“Matchbox” type model cars based on cars seen in the show like Steve’s blue Silverado truck, Danny’s original silver(?) Camaro, & the HPD cars used in the show, etc. Maybe the people who negotiated Alex & Scott’s contracts on their behalf decided they could make more money from being in the show if they went for them getting profit participation in the show instead of the (probably small, in comparison) salary bump that might come with the title of Producer or Executive Producer. See, they might not get any money they might be making from being a titled Producer or Executive Producer once the show ends. If they went for a profit participation perk instead, unless they set a certain cutoff date in relation to how long they could make that extra money from being involved in the show, they could, & probably would, continue to make money from the show for as long as it was still being sold elsewhere for airing, merchandise relating to the show was still being sold, etc. Taking that type of a deal is, hopefully obviously, much better in a financial sense than taking the perk (& likely salary bump) of being a Producer or Executive Producer, since any extra money earned that way might end as soon as the show itself ends, & may explain why they haven’t been made Producers or Executive Producers. 1 Link to comment
Passepartout August 25, 2018 Share August 25, 2018 Bet they can make a lot of money over on syndication as well. You are right about that. Thank you! Link to comment
BW Manilowe August 30, 2018 Author Share August 30, 2018 From TV Line— Hawaii Five-0 First Look: McGarrett ‘Suits Up’ for Redo of Original Series’ Pilot—PlusWo Fat Returns...?! Link to comment
LizDC September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 Grace Park Talks About Leaving Hawaii Five-O: ‘I Chose What Was Best for My Integrity’ Link to comment
BW Manilowe September 15, 2018 Author Share September 15, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, LizDC said: Grace Park Talks About Leaving Hawaii Five-O: ‘I Chose What Was Best for My Integrity’ Wow... I’m not sure what to say, except I’m sorry it seemed Grace apparently felt less valued & more left out as time went on, & she seemed to resent Peter commenting about her departure in a nice way (as opposed to describing anything negative that could’ve been going on involving Grace); yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have said anything on her behalf (at least not without checking with her), but I also get why he did it (I think). I dunno. I guess maybe I’m disappointed in how she looks back on her time on the show now, as opposed to how she used to talk about it when she did it; maybe I also feel like (my opinion) maybe she’s coming off a little bitchy about her experience than she used to, which saddens me, though I’m not a Pollyanna about stuff like this; really I’m not. And I wanna know that mysterious reason she won’t talk about that’s attached to why she left. I almost forgot. Here’s the link to the Entertainment Weekly version of the article. Edited September 15, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add a link. Link to comment
roamyn September 16, 2018 Share September 16, 2018 (edited) On 9/15/2018 at 1:18 AM, BW Manilowe said: Wow... I’m not sure what to say, except I’m sorry it seemed Grace apparently felt less valued & more left out as time went on, & she seemed to resent Peter commenting about her departure in a nice way (as opposed to describing anything negative that could’ve been going on involving Grace); yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have said anything on her behalf (at least not without checking with her), but I also get why he did it (I think). I dunno. I guess maybe I’m disappointed in how she looks back on her time on the show now, as opposed to how she used to talk about it when she did it; maybe I also feel like (my opinion) maybe she’s coming off a little bitchy about her experience than she used to, which saddens me, though I’m not a Pollyanna about stuff like this; really I’m not. And I wanna know that mysterious reason she won’t talk about that’s attached to why she left. I almost forgot. Here’s the link to the Entertainment Weekly version of the article. She came across very negative in the article. She doesn’t mention that she wanted the same deal as Scot, but w/more time off. But it makes no sense. Wasn’t she visiting sets a lot last summer? Edited September 16, 2018 by roamyn 1 Link to comment
Just my 2 cents September 16, 2018 Share September 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, roamyn said: She came across very negative in the article. She doesn’t mention that she wanted the same deal as Scot, but w/more time off. But it makes no sense. Wasn’t she visiting sets a lot last summer? 2 hours ago, roamyn said: On 9/15/2018 at 12:18 AM, BW Manilowe said: Wow... I’m not sure what to say, except I’m sorry it seemed Grace apparently felt less valued & more left out as time went on, & she seemed to resent Peter commenting about her departure in a nice way (as opposed to describing anything negative that could’ve been going on involving Grace); yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have said anything on her behalf (at least not without checking with her), but I also get why he did it (I think). I dunno. I guess maybe I’m disappointed in how she looks back on her time on the show now, as opposed to how she used to talk about it when she did it; maybe I also feel like (my opinion) maybe she’s coming off a little bitchy about her experience than she used to, which saddens me, though I’m not a Pollyanna about stuff like this; really I’m not. And I wanna know that mysterious reason she won’t talk about that’s attached to why she left. I almost forgot. Here’s the link to the Entertainment Weekly version of the article. She came across very negative in the article. She doesn’t mention that she wanted the same deal as Scot, but w/more time off. But it makes no sense. Wasn’t she visiting sets a lot last summer? Maybe her issue is more with the network. Paget Brewster on Criminal Minds had an issue with the network years ago regarding her contract, but she had kind words to say about everyone on the show. I guess they eventually worked it out since she's back on the show. The honest truth is the show and network is kind of a boy's club. The only time they ever gave her a few storylines over the past few seasons involved her getting married, her husband's issues, and in her final season the storyline they gave her had her being sulky over sex trafficking and talking about starting a family with her unemployable husband. She's just kind of in the background as the "hottie cop". It's interesting that her character worked for 5-0 for as long as she did and was never promoted. She was referred to as Officer. I would think being on a special task force would earn you at least Detective after about 5 years of solving major crimes around the entire state. I also wonder how the network would have handled the situation with her being in NXIVM. They don't always come across as very supportive of their actors. Anyway at least taking a year off out of the spotlight kind of kept her out of that situation. Edited September 16, 2018 by Just my 2 cents 1 Link to comment
BW Manilowe September 16, 2018 Author Share September 16, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, roamyn said: She came across very negative in the article. She doesn’t mention that she wanted the same deal as Scot, but w/more time off. But it makes no sense. Wasn’t she visiting sets a lot last summer? Yes she was. She was on the set the 1st week of filming, as I remember (I’m not positive, but I think that led some people to think she was filming more of an ending for Kono than just flying off to the Mainland to catch sex trafficking rings). And I think she was also there after that (I guess she finds/found it OK to be on the set as long as she wasn’t a working cast member anymore). I don’t know; if her true feelings were expressed in what was printed, I guess at least half of me thinks “What a beyotch!”. If the writer did a number on her— making her feelings seem some way they weren’t/aren’t, then maybe I might be a little more sympathetic. But I do have to say her going back to the set after leaving the show, like a former student going back to school after graduation to visit their favorite teacher(s) &/or administrator(s) kinda left a weird taste in my mouth too (shrugs). But I guess if the rest of the cast, crew, Lenkov, & CBS have no problems with it, whatever. Since she was cast as a replacement for another actress in ABC’s new show, A Million Little Things (which doesn’t compete with H50 or any of Lenkov’s shows—or DDK’s show—by the way; I think it’s on the Wednesday schedule), & that films in Vancouver, I doubt she’ll be visiting the set much this season, unless that show doesn’t last until midseason. Edited September 16, 2018 by BW Manilowe To add bold type. And to fix spacing. Link to comment
BW Manilowe September 16, 2018 Author Share September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ally said: Maybe her issue is more with the network. Paget Brewster on Criminal Minds had an issue with the network years ago regarding her contract, but she had kind words to say about everyone on the show. I guess they eventually worked it out since she's back on the show. The honest truth is the show and network is kind of a boy's club. The only time they ever gave her a few storylines over the past few seasons involved her getting married, her husband's issues, and in her final season the storyline they gave her had her being sulky over sex trafficking and talking about starting a family with her unemployable husband. She's just kind of in the background as the "hottie cop". It's interesting that her character worked for 5-0 for as long as she did and was never promoted. She was referred to as Officer. I would think being on a special task force would earn you at least Detective after about 5 years of solving major crimes around the entire state. She also had that storyline where Kono was trying to help 1 of her old surfing rivals who’d lost 1 leg or both legs in Iraq & had become homeless, gotten in legal trouble, & fallen on other hard times since returning home. And S2 had her biggest arc, where Kono went undercover for Captain Fryer & took down dirty ex-cop Frank Delano (& Steve decked Fryer as soon as the op was over). Link to comment
roamyn September 16, 2018 Share September 16, 2018 (edited) Maybe it was the storylines, but Kono never had much personality (except her S2 arch w/Delano). I thought her roundhouse kick had more character than Kono. Whether that’s due to the actress or the writers, I don’t know, as I never saw her in anything else. Edited September 16, 2018 by roamyn 1 Link to comment
Raja September 17, 2018 Share September 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Just my 2 cents said: She's just kind of in the background as the "hottie cop". It's interesting that her character worked for 5-0 for as long as she did and was never promoted. She was referred to as Officer. I would think being on a special task force would earn you at least Detective after about 5 years of solving major crimes around the entire state. Career wise Kono was in a strange place. She was pulled from the police academy to work undercover with a new task force and later undercover with internal affairs. She has never served on patrol or supervised others and beyond a personal relationship with a Sergeant have much to do with HPD thus someone pushing her career in her parent agency. I wonder if they have the civil service rules of taking a test and needing an opening to promote? However H50 isn't normally that real, besides with the hundreds of HPD officers who have fallen in the line of duty over the past 7 years you would think some had rank and there would be openings. Meanwhile Captain Grover and Detective Williams seemed t have earned their rank in outside agencies and transferred to HPD with it. Lieutenant Kelly rose to Sergeant on HPD before resigning in lieu of charges be filled against him. As a 5-0 member the Governor referred to him as Inspector before being his reinstated with HPD as a Lieutenant. And Lieutenant Commander McGarrett remain Lieutenant Commander McGarrett commanding officer of the 5-0 Task Force. Link to comment
LotusFlower September 17, 2018 Share September 17, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 1:18 AM, BW Manilowe said: Wow... I’m not sure what to say, except I’m sorry it seemed Grace apparently felt less valued & more left out as time went on, & she seemed to resent Peter commenting about her departure in a nice way (as opposed to describing anything negative that could’ve been going on involving Grace); yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have said anything on her behalf (at least not without checking with her), but I also get why he did it (I think). I dunno. I guess maybe I’m disappointed in how she looks back on her time on the show now, as opposed to how she used to talk about it when she did it; maybe I also feel like (my opinion) maybe she’s coming off a little bitchy about her experience than she used to, which saddens me, though I’m not a Pollyanna about stuff like this; really I’m not. And I wanna know that mysterious reason she won’t talk about that’s attached to why she left. I almost forgot. Here’s the link to the Entertainment Weekly version of the article. I don’t think Peter Lenkov’s comment about her departure was “nice,” but rather incredibly sexist, as well as incredibly deliberate in pivoting the subject away from how CBS doesn’t value women and POC as much as white men. 1 Link to comment
Raja September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 Over in the private sector on Magnum PI beyond Lt Tanaka name dropping 5-0 Kimee Balmilero, Dr. Noelani Cunha , made an appearance on the first Magnum episode. Link to comment
roamyn September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Raja said: Over in the private sector on Magnum PI beyond Lt Tanaka name dropping 5-0 Kimee Balmilero, Dr. Noelani Cunha , made an appearance on the first Magnum episode. Kaveeka was there, too. He was the “informant”; who gave Rick the GPS info on the ambulance. Link to comment
kassygreene September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 3 hours ago, roamyn said: Kaveeka was there, too. He was the “informant”; who gave Rick the GPS info on the ambulance. The actor (Kala Alexander) was there. I don't think Five-0 Kawika runs a chop shop. Link to comment
BW Manilowe September 25, 2018 Author Share September 25, 2018 Kamekona’s supposed to show up eventually, I think, if he wasn’t on the first ep. Link to comment
roamyn September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 6 hours ago, kassygreene said: The actor (Kala Alexander) was there. I don't think Five-0 Kawika runs a chop shop. We don’t know that. He is leader of a gang. He demands respect & authority from hus crew. He can be a nice guy and still skirt the law. It makes no sense to have the same actor play two different roles on such closely related shows. Link to comment
BW Manilowe September 26, 2018 Author Share September 26, 2018 7 hours ago, roamyn said: We don’t know that. He is leader of a gang. He demands respect & authority from hus crew. He can be a nice guy and still skirt the law. It makes no sense to have the same actor play two different roles on such closely related shows. I Googled for Kala Alexander’s Magnum character info (with respect, not sure why someone else couldn’t have). According to what I found, Kala Alexander’s Magnum character was listed, generically, as “Chop Shop Owner”. So maybe he was supposed to have also been Kawika, & maybe he wasn’t. Link to comment
Passepartout September 26, 2018 Share September 26, 2018 They are in the Spoiler TV are showing three scenes from the season premiere. Really just do not like Steve taking advantage of Danny's kindness at times. And in the locking him out of his own car in one of the scenes. At times Steve does not treat his partner like an equal. Though he is also his boss. IMHO Danny kind of deserves better. Yeah he can be annoying at times. Link to comment
BW Manilowe November 16, 2018 Author Share November 16, 2018 From ET Online: Chi Talks to ET About Writing the Thanksgiving Ep and Possibly Writing More in the Future Link to comment
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