S10.E19: Baptism By Fire

[Thick McRunFast]

That was a real feat Tamara managed by getting Bravo to film her pasteurization as the season finale. The way this season has gone I was expecting it to be held at Newport Imaging with the bar laid out on the CT scan machine.

 

I was already pretty firmly in the "Brooks is lying" camp but this episode put me in the "Vicki is in on it" camp too. That story about Terry and the IV makes no sense and it makes even less sense that Vicki would tell that story to Shannon and then forget the entire incident when she was questioned about it.

 

Rhonda's comment about the records of David's affair was lame. I love a good smack down (even when it's given to someone I like) but that was just stupid. She probably thought that was going to be her *mic drop* moment but really it was more like a *balloon getting a tiny leak and slowly sinking to the floor over the course of several minutes" moment.

[Bebecat]

Also, Terry looked like an ice cream server in his white jacket and shirt, no tie. Or a sleazy TV preacher.

[cherry slushie]

I think somebody tried to correct Tamra at her sex party. It was either Vicki or Heather.

 

Well, it didn't work lol.  My favorite Tamra language bungle is "You guyses".

[kanona29]

Well, Shannon must be a saint because I would have slapped that Rhonda for trying to call me out on something like that in front of everybody. And I'm not a violent person, but that right there would have tested my patience big time. And had this been some other reality show, the fall out would have been entirely different from Shannon just walking away stating, "that BITCH, Rhonda...".

 

But your assessment, Shannon, is right on point. That was truly a bitch move and I have no doubt that Vicki influenced things to go down that way.

 

I'm pretty disappointed too because I believe Shannon and Vicki had a genuine friendship, and Shannon's been the only one to have Vicki's back with this cancer storyline until things started to not add up and made her go "hmmmm..."

[WireWrap]

I agreed with Vicki, Brianna had made it known she didn't like Brooks, so why keep talking about it?

In OK, Vicki brought up Brooks herself and at the lunch with Tamra, Tamra brought up Brooks. Briana did NOT bring him up either time.

 

Vicki did try to correct her but Tamra was rambling at the time and didn't hear it.

 

My question on the IV thing is, why hasn't it been mentioned before tonight?  Why wouldn't Heather have brought it up during any of the previous pow wows she's had with Shannon/Meghan/Tamra when gossiping about Brook's cancer?  And she did make it seem like some gossip that she heard and not anything Vicki actually said to anyone.  And I think Vicki really did seem not to know what Heather was talking about.  And also, it doesn't make since what Shannon said about Briana telling her the same IV story, but she ended the statement with, "and I've never had a conversation with Briana".  I was like, "Huh?!"  I think Shannon is lying about Briana saying that Vicki told her the IV story.  I think she's pissed and she's trying her hardest to make Vicki look like a liar.

Tamra only told Heather AFTER Briana told her at their lunch a few days earlier. I am sure she then asked Terry if this happened and the next time they were all together again was at the finale, hence her bringing it up tonight. Shannon said that Vicki told her and that she did NOT hear this from Briana because they have never met or ever spoken with each other. In other words, Vicki told BOTH Briana AND Shannon the same BS story/lie about Brooks calling Terry.

Edited October 13, 2015 by WireWrap

[Scrambled Fog]

Vicki did try to correct her but Tamra was rambling at the time and didn't hear it.

My question on the IV thing is, why hasn't it been mentioned before tonight? Why wouldn't Heather have brought it up during any of the previous pow wows she's had with Shannon/Meghan/Tamra when gossiping about Brook's cancer? And she did make it seem like some gossip that she heard and not anything Vicki actually said to anyone. And I think Vicki really did seem not to know what Heather was talking about. And also, it doesn't make since what Shannon said about Briana telling her the same IV story, but she ended the statement with, "and I've never had a conversation with Briana". I was like, "Huh?!" I think Shannon is lying about Briana saying that Vicki told her the IV story. I think she's pissed and she's trying her hardest to make Vicki look like a liar.

Yeah. Why didn't Heather bring up the IV thing before?

I was confused by what Shannon said too.

I agree Vicki looked like she didn't know what Heather was talking about. I'm not even sure I know what Heather was talking about.

The IV story was just odd and seemed kinda thrown in there at the last moment.

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Edited October 13, 2015 by Scrambled Fog

[charming]

From Shannon's blog.

 

It is shocking to hear Vicki say, "Let's just say he's is faking cancer, what would that have to do with me? I don't understand why we are even talking about it." Are you serious??? Why are we talking about it, Vicki??? Because you have brought us all into this story and have accused me of being a disloyal friend as a result. The fact that she even made that statement is alarming.

 

It's interesting that Vicki's saying that if Brooks is lying it has nothing to do with her. Um, yes it does because you vouched for him. You stood by his side as he told this (maybe) lie. That makes you suspect as hell. This is exactly what's getting Heather & Shannon upset. They've been trying to be supportive but they're disturbed by all the holes in the story. They actually don't want to be involved in this scam. It does have something to do with you when you're expected to affirm a bold face lie on camera in front of millions of viewers. 

[happykitteh]

So did Vicks claim she was out of town when Brooks supposedly had Terry send someone over with an IV? I thought she mumbled she was probably traveling. Then she was in Oklahoma when Brooks supposedly showed Billy his PET/CT scan? Am I getting that right? It is so convenient that she is traveling when everything is happening. Vicki is lying about something whether it is Brooks' cancer or him not having cancer, something hinky is going on somewhere.

 

Thanks to whomever upthread who pointed me in the direction of Shannon's blog. It was a good read.

 

Vicki claims she never said anything about Brooks and an IV and has never heard the rumor and she may have been traveling. She claims she was in OK when Brooks had his PET/CT so she can't say where or if he had it done. Big,fat lying bitch.

[breezy424]

Comparing yourself to being Jesus being nailed to the cross?  What????  If you want to make a statement about how clueless and shallow you really are, you were successful Vicks.

 

Billy's girlfriend statement in response to Shannon didn't even make sense.  She just wanted to get it out there.  Crappy job because the viewers already knew so she just made herself look desperate.

 

As for Vick's TH when she states that if Brookes lied......  Yeah Vicks, that worked....not so much.

 

And message to Vicks - once again you wore a dress that should have been a size larger.  Heck, that dress wasn't flattering for you if it even fit.  Tams, your dress was cute for the party but when it cuts into your body and there's fat overlapping the dress, it's time to go with a different dress.  Not saying Tams is fat but it just doesn't work.

 

Shannon was right about Vicks and was totally justified about Vick's self righteous statements about Shannon not being a friend.  Bottom line is that Shannon was getting too close to the truth and Vick's only way of dealing with it was to try and shut Shannon down by whining about the unreturned calls.

 

Wow, Andy went really soft on Vicks on WWHL.

[swankie]

In OK, Vicki brought up Brooks herself and at the lunch with Tamra, Tamra brought up Brooks. Briana did NOT bring him up either time.

 

Tamra only told Heather AFTER Briana told her at their lunch a few days earlier. I am sure she then asked Terry if this happened and the next time they were all together again was at the finale, hence her bringing it up tonight. Shannon said that Vicki told her and that she did NOT hear this from Briana because they have never met or ever spoken with each other. In other words, Vicki told BOTH Briana AND Shannon the same BS story/lie about Brooks calling Terry.

 

Thanks!  I was scratching my head when Shannon said that about never talking to Brianna.  If this is true, Vicki is more stupid than I've always thought to create such a provable lie.  What did she expect Heather or Terry to say once they found out she spread such a lie?  It makes no sense at all to make up a story like that.  smdh

 

I still don't understand why Heather wouldn't have called Vicki the moment she heard about this lie.  I would be seething if someone lied on me like that and would have to confront them about it right away, especially since it put Terry in a bad light as a physician. 

Edited October 13, 2015 by swankie

[kanona29]

Yeah. Why didn't Heather bring up the IV thing before?

I was confused by what Shannon said too.

I agree Vicki looked like she didn't know what Heather was talking about. I'm not even sure I know what Heather was talking about.

The IV story was just odd and seemed kinda thrown in there at the last moment.

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Nah, Vicki looked like she knew exactly what Heather was talking about. That was some bad acting right there. All timid and whispery with the I don't know what you're talking about spiel...Puh-lease. Her reaction only confirmed the rumor and her part in it.

[happykitteh]

Yeah. Why didn't Heather bring up the IV thing before?

I was confused by what Shannon said too.

I agree Vicki looked like she didn't know what Heather was talking about. I'm not even sure I know what Heather was talking about.

The IV story was just odd and seemed kinda thrown in there at the last moment.

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Tamra asked Heather about it after Briana told her (Tamra) the IV story. This didn't happen until near the finale. Once the women were comparing notes Shannon said VICKI, NOT BRIANA, told her the same story. This did not happen until the end of the season which is why it was not brought up sooner. Vicki is a seasoned liar. Her "confused" stone faced look is just her playing stupid when cornered, along with her patented excuses "I wasn't there", "I was traveling on business", and "I was in OK".

Edited October 13, 2015 by happykitteh

[WireWrap]

Thanks!  I was scratching my head when Shannon said that about never talking to Brianna.  If this is true, Vicki is more stupid than I've always thought to create such a provable lie.  What did she expect Heather or Terry to say once they found out she spread such a lie?  It makes no sense at all to make up a story like that.  smdh

If the timeline on this, according to Shannon it happened after Brooks first chemo treatment which happened before filming began, is correct, I think Vicki was counting on Heather/Terry NEVER finding out about the lie. I don't think Vicki thought Shannon and Heather would ever become friends or that Briana would disobey her and talk about Brooks ON camera. Vicki said on WWHL that she told Briana she was NOT to talk about Brooks ON CAMERA this season! Vicki told both Briana and Shannon this story/lie about calling Terry and she KNEW it was a lie, a BIG FAT LIE, to begin with IMO!

[Scrambled Fog]

Nah, Vicki looked like she knew exactly what Heather was talking about. That was some bad acting right there. All timid and whispery with the I don't know what you're talking about spiel...Puh-lease. Her reaction only confirmed the rumor and her part in it.

I agree w/ the word rumor.

I agree to disagree on the rest.

[breezy424]

Vicks' old mantra - I work.  Vicks' new mantra - my mom died.  Apparently she's the only one who works and had a mother who died.  Poor Vicks.  But this is the woman who compares herself to Jesus being nailed to the cross. 

[Thick McRunFast]

I almost hope someone catches me in a lie in the near future so that I can get a panicked look on my face and then cry "I'm going to go be with people who believe in Jesus!"

 

So smooth.

[Scrambled Fog]

Thanks! I was scratching my head when Shannon said that about never talking to Brianna. If this is true, Vicki is more stupid than I've always thought to create such a provable lie. What did she expect Heather or Terry to say once they found out she spread such a lie? It makes no sense at all to make up a story like that. smdh

Huh?

I'm still confused.

[happykitteh]

I agree w/ the word rumor.

I agree to disagree on the rest.

IMO, if Briana and Shannon Both have the same story and they have never spoken to each other it is no longer a rumor, it happened.

 

 

Vicks' old mantra - I work.  Vicks' new mantra - my mom died.  Apparently she's the only one who works and had a mother who died.  Poor Vicks.  But this is the woman who compares herself to Jesus being nailed to the cross.

 

 Yes, poor woman! She has known burdens we mere mortals have never had to endure!

Edited October 13, 2015 by happykitteh

[hottesthw]

Vicki is an empty narcissistic pit of neediness.

This x 40 million! After tonight I say more than ever, if Brooks was scamming her for a "lifestyle" he earned every penny and I'm not gonna hate.

Run Donn Run!!!

[Maire]

I never use this word but this whole thing with Tamra was really sacrilegious. What a mess she is.

[Watermelon]

We've heard rumors that Vicki will insinuate and/or claim that she was duped by Brooks.

 

Of all the talking heads we've seen over the years, this one has to be the most revealing.

 

And so it begins.........

 

Viki tipped the hell out of her hand right there. That, along with Tamra telling her Mehgan called Newport Imaging and they don't do that test and all Vicki said was, "I was in Oklahoma". Girl.

Brooks don't have cancer and you're mad you can't use your dead mom to get out of questioning the myriad inconsistencies.

[Mrs peel]

Vicks' old mantra - I work.  Vicks' new mantra - my mom died.  Apparently she's the only one who works and had a mother who died.  Poor Vicks.  But this is the woman who compares herself to Jesus being nailed to the cross.

And everyone else will go home to their nice houses but she has to deal with "this, this, this and this." Sure, because only Vicki "works" and "deals with things." What an idiot!

[happykitteh]

Huh?

I'm still confused.

 

Okay, I'll explain it again:

 

1. Vicki calls up Briana in OK and tells her Brooks became deathly ill from chemo, so ill Vicki was forced to call Terry and ask him what to do. Terry then sent a doctor colleague to Vicki's house to hook Brooks up to an IV - according to Vicki's story to Briana.

 

2. While lunching with Tamra Briana tells Tamra about the phone call from Vicki talking about Brooks,Terry and the IV.

 

3. Tamra asks Heather if Terry did indeed send a colleague to tend to Brooks while he was dealthy ill from chemo and if said colleague put Brooks on an IV.

 

4. Heather asks Terry if this ever happened. Terry said absolutely not! That even if Brooks had called him (which he did not) he would have sent Brooks to the ER 

    as that is what is proper medical protocol.

 

5. When Heather and Shannon are talking about Brooks Heather shares the story Tamra told her about Briana getting a call from Vicki with the lie about Terry

     sending a colleague to Vicki's home to tend Brooks.

 

6. Shannon then shares with Heather that Vicki called her with the same bullshit story about Terry, a colleague an an IV. Shannon siad she hear it from Vicki

    herself, not from Briana.

 

7. This is why Shannon made a point to say she has never ever spoken with Briana, to be sure it was understood that Vicki told her the IV story, not Briana.

 

Hope that help clear it up for you :)

Edited October 13, 2015 by happykitteh

[AnnA]

I read this as a "fourth wall" type of comparison.  I think Rhonda was saying Shannon should show proof of David's affair to validate it as a storyline like the others are questioning Vicki using Brooks' cancer as a storyline and needing to validate it.  It's a stretch, but I'm sticking to it.  Lol!

I don't think there's a fourth wall comparison to be made.

Shannon's "proof" was David admitting the affair on TV.

Did anyone else notice on WWHL that both Vicki and Andy didn't know how to spell "pastor." When Andy brought up Tamra's mispronunciation, Vicki spelled it "paster" and Andy didn't correct her.

[swankie]

Well, this IV lie definitely tipped the scale for me in the direction of Brooks is lying about having cancer and Vicki was in on it.  The reason I believe Vicki is in on it is not only the IV lie (because if Brooks really has cancer, why this lie?), but she also actually said she went to some of Brooks' chemo treatments but not his doctor appointments.  They are both despicable pigs and they had better pray for forgiveness and apologize to all of those who are battling cancer for real.  I now know how Meghan feels knowing that Brooks and Vicki are pretending he has cancer for a storyline while poor LeeAnn fought for her life and lost to cancer at the same time.  I don't see how they can look at themselves in the mirror daily. 

[Cherrio]

Meghan did the worst thing a PI could do.

She cherry picked, and outright invented evidence, to fit her so called theory.

A real fact finder would analyze the evidence, then formulate a theory.

Evidence does not originate from psychics.

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Actually, she came up with a very good reason why Brooks has cancer again.   No job, cannot work aka doesn't want to work because he uses dimwit women instead for cash, room and board. Can't pay child support if you have a serious disease. Off the hook.

         He told his last girlfriend he had cancer. Then when that didn't work, he deserted her and his newborn baby.

          He told Brianna he had pancreatic cancer to try and con her into liking him via feeling sorry for him.

[Cherrio]

Well, this IV lie definitely tipped the scale for me in the direction of Brooks is lying about having cancer and Vicki was in on it.  The reason I believe Vicki is in on it is not only the IV lie (because if Brooks really has cancer, why this lie?), but she also actually said she went to some of Brooks' chemo treatments but not his doctor appointments.  They are both despicable pigs and they had better pray for forgiveness and apologize to all of those who are battling cancer for real.  I now know how Meghan feels knowing that Brooks and Vicki are pretending he has cancer for a storyline while poor LeeAnn fought for her life and lost to cancer at the same time.  I don't see how they can look at themselves in the mirror daily. 

Excellent post.....and may I add that not once did Vicki ever say, I saw the mark on his arm or hand where the chemo line went in. Why? Because there were never a mark or bruise to be seen. 

Well, this IV lie definitely tipped the scale for me in the direction of Brooks is lying about having cancer and Vicki was in on it.  The reason I believe Vicki is in on it is not only the IV lie (because if Brooks really has cancer, why this lie?), but she also actually said she went to some of Brooks' chemo treatments but not his doctor appointments.  They are both despicable pigs and they had better pray for forgiveness and apologize to all of those who are battling cancer for real.  I now know how Meghan feels knowing that Brooks and Vicki are pretending he has cancer for a storyline while poor LeeAnn fought for her life and lost to cancer at the same time.  I don't see how they can look at themselves in the mirror daily. 

Excellent post.....and may I add that not once did Vicki ever say, I saw the mark on his arm or hand where the chemo line went in. Why? Because there were never a mark or bruise to be seen. 

[maggiemae]

My favorite part of the show was "this is the finale."

[forum4idiots]

Pretty sure if this cancer thing is a lie, then Vicki's business will go down the drain.  An insurance business where the owner is caught lying?  Good luck with that.  I must say, Brooks must have a big cock or be one hell of a lover for someone like Vicki to stand by this "apparent" lie.

Edited October 13, 2015 by lovebug1975

[zoeysmom]

So had Vicki taken time either collectively or individually to sit down with Heather or Shannon to review what their concerns were she may have made some smarter decisions regarding Brooks.  Tamra was relishing too much in the shit stirring to try and reach any true resolve.  I guess all the phone calls and texts in the world don't mean a thing when you get a nasty call from Brooks.  I can see why she didn't want to talk to Vicki. 

[KLovestoShop]

Over the years, there have been low blows, but the comment by Billy's girlfriend, a great big nobody, was way below the belt. Vicki and the cancer story, IMHO, was nothing more than a bunch of scripted bullshit written up bu Andy and the Bravo idiots, and we were the gullible ones.

When Vicki said " those women don't deserve me" I nearly lost it. Yeah, Vicki, these women don't deserve an overinflated ego, pain in the ass, non-friend. Plus, Vicki, you look like a badly stuffed sausage in that white dress.

And since when did Vicki find Jesus? She now only wants to be with people who love Jesus? Give me a freaking break. She's found Jesus like I found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Edited October 13, 2015 by KLovestoShop

[Scrambled Fog]

Actually, she came up with a very good reason why Brooks has cancer again. No job, cannot work aka doesn't want to work because he uses dimwit women instead for cash, room and board. Can't pay child support if you have a serious disease. Off the hook.

He told his last girlfriend he had cancer. Then when that didn't work, he deserted her and his newborn baby.

He told Brianna he had pancreatic cancer to try and con her into liking him via feeling sorry for him.

Meghan came up with those reasons after she decided what's his name was faking his diagnosis. That only supports my point.

I will not believe anything originating from Tamra, including this specious storyline.

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Edited October 13, 2015 by Scrambled Fog

[WireWrap]

Pretty sure if this cancer thing is a lie, then Vicki's business will go down the drain.  An insurance business where the owner is caught lying?  Good luck with that.  I must say, Brooks must have a big cock or be one hell of a lover for someone like Vicki to stand by this "apparent" lie.

Vicki is already spewing her excuse, "If Brooks lied, what does that have to do with her"! She will try to spin it that she was also lied to/duped by him and a victim, as always a victim. Sadly the other HWs, with maybe the exception of Shannon, will allow her to get away with it.

[cherry slushie]

Pretty sure if this cancer thing is a lie, then Vicki's business will go down the drain.  An insurance business where the owner is caught lying?  Good luck with that.  I must say, Brooks must have a big cock or be one hell of a lover for someone like Vicki to stand by this "apparent" lie.

Ha ha!  I think he does! 

 

http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/1341696/blog_images/brooks-ayers-2.jpg

[WireWrap]

Meghan came up with those reasons after she decided what's his name was faking his diagnosis. That only supports my point.

I will not believe anything originating from Tamra, including this specious storyline.

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Yes, this does/doesn't he story started with Eddie/Tamra ON camera but it appears that Vicki was already spreading lies before filming began if Shannon and or Briana are to be believed. This IV/Terry story happened before filming, directly after his first chemo treatment in October last year. They didn't start filming until Jan. this year.

[Fl Mom]

Vicki did try to correct her but Tamra was rambling at the time and didn't hear it.

 

My question on the IV thing is, why hasn't it been mentioned before tonight?  Why wouldn't Heather have brought it up during any of the previous pow wows she's had with Shannon/Meghan/Tamra when gossiping about Brook's cancer?  And she did make it seem like some gossip that she heard and not anything Vicki actually said to anyone.  And I think Vicki really did seem not to know what Heather was talking about.  I highly doubt she would invent such a provable lie.  And why would Heather not confront Vicki on this so called lie the moment she heard about it?  And also, it doesn't make since what Shannon said about Briana telling her the same IV story, but she ended the statement with, "and I've never had a conversation with Briana in my life".  I was like, "Huh?!"  I think Shannon is lying about Briana saying that Vicki told her the IV story.  I think she's pissed and she's trying her hardest to make Vicki look like a liar.

I think editing often confuses the issues.  Shannon said Vicki told her the same thing she (Vicki) told Briana.  Shannon and Briana didn't meet and discuss it.  I think Vicki told both Shannon and Briana at different times but they just put it all together tonight.  Or something like that :)

[Scrambled Fog]

Yes, this does/doesn't he story started with Eddie/Tamra ON camera but it appears that Vicki was already spreading lies before filming began if Shannon and or Briana are to be believed. This IV/Terry story happened before filming, directly after his first chemo treatment in October last year. They didn't start filming until Jan. this year.

Neither the IV story, or what Shannon said make any sense to me.

Furthermore, I have yet to see any credible evidence Vicki lied about what's his name and his diagnosis.

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Edited October 13, 2015 by Scrambled Fog

[BlackMamba]

Mannn

I dont care what anyone says but when Shannon said "that bitch Rhonda"

She brought the Compton to the OC.

Edited October 13, 2015 by BlackMamba

[bravofan27]

Well, Shannon must be a saint because I would have slapped that Rhonda for trying to call me out on something like that in front of everybody. And I'm not a violent person, but that right there would have tested my patience big time. And had this been some other reality show, the fall out would have been entirely different from Shannon just walking away stating, "that BITCH, Rhonda..

 

This cracked me up. I made my husband watch this with me tonight, and I went into the kitchen during the Shannon/ Rhonda exchange (I was still listening) and my husband said something about people were going to fight. "Shannon's going to hit someone!" I was like, What??? He told me to get back asap so I could watch the fight. haha, omg, so funny. 

Edited October 13, 2015 by bravofan27

[Watermelon]

Neither the IV story, or what Shannon said make any sense to me.

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The IV story doesn't make sense because it's a months old lie Vicki forgot about, most likely.

[Scrambled Fog]

The IV story doesn't make sense because it's a months old lie Vicki forgot about, most likely.

I am going by the way Heather related the story.

[DrivingSideways]

From what I recall, it hasn't been Vicki pushing this storyline all season.  And after the episode where her mom died, I only remember her mentioning it once or twice.  These women have been piling on her all season.  So even though I'm sure Brooks is lying, they still come off looking worse.

 

Basically any argument that Heather is involved in - the side she is on is the wrong one.  That's the one consistency for me in watching the show.

 

Shannon looked like an idiot freaking out that Ronda knew about her affair.  We've all known about the affair since last year - you just confirmed it this year.  Shannon is a messy, pathetic woman.

 

Vicki is a messy, pathetic woman also.

 

Fire Meghan and try again with another one, Andy.

[Brooke0707]

Yeah, tonight's episode convinced me Brooks is lying and Vicki is in on it. I don't think Shannon was lying about the Terry story. And if Vicki is lying on Brooks' behalf, she knows the truth. She probably thought if the world thought Brooks had cancer, they'd like him.

Plus, Vicki's reaction about the imaging place was bizarre. She was all "oh okay well I wasn't there." Who says that? She knows they are close to getting proof he is cancer free and wants to dissociate herself from the whole thing IMO. Plus she started insulting Brianna - yeah she knows the truth.

I do love when they say one another's last name though - Vicki said Shannon Beador several times in a row. Ha!

Man, Meghan is thirsty. She is just as much as a shitstirrer as Tamra except brighter.

Lol @ Vicki comparing herself to Jesus on a cross. Don't ever change Vicki!

Edited October 13, 2015 by Brooke0707

[forum4idiots]

real housewives of lemon county.

[Cosmocrush]

I'm a little bit offended by this baptism. I'm offended by how they they are turning what's supposed to be a solemn and sacred occasion into a season finale party.

This was nothing, on RHONJ we've seen baptism parties with Marie Antoinette serving sushi and another one where there was a big ol' family brawl with busted furniture and a the whole thing.    Good times. 

 

Billy really stood out (and not in a good way) by wearing khaki pants

Plus, I'm pretty sure he was loaded, which means he must have been drinking before the party since they were only an hour into it when I noticed. 

 

We've heard rumors that Vicki will insinuate and/or claim that she was duped by Brooks.

 

 

I hope this isn't boards-on-boardsy, but does anyone have a different opinion about Vicki/Brooks after tonight?  I cannot imagine believing a damned thing either of them EVER says after Heather's Terry-and-the-I.V. story.  LIARFACES!

*raises hand*  I think by this point  Vicks had found out the truth but was going along with it.  Bad mistake on her part. 

 

I honestly think she was duped by him, in the beginning.  I think he made it up to move into her house;  he didn't move in until after he went public with his health.  But then at some point she found out/figured it out/something and instead of tossing his ass out and admitting  she was duped she made the ill-fated choice to go along with it and back him up.  That's why she wasn't making his illness all about her like she did when Brianna was sick.  She's not an actress and if she knew he was really as sick as he said she would have been boo-hooing all over the place instead of jetting off here and there.   

 

I don't think she was in on it from the beginning but it looks like once she found out she rolled with it which is almost as bad. 

 

I'm not sure if she felt like she was in too deep or she is just that terrified of being alone but in the end he left her [again] anyway.  So she ruined her reputation  and lost at least one real friendship all over this con man.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[MerryMary]

In what world does a doctor make a house call? As if physicians keep IV treatments on hand just in case... Worst lie ever.

[zoeysmom]

So Vicki is still upset the season was devoted to her mourning the loss if her mother.  I feel for anyone losing a parent but the fact is no one on the cast had ever met Vicki's mom.  In the three months between her mother's death and the finale, Vicki went back to Chicago twice to be with family and friends, Billy came out twice and she visited Briana and Briana visited her.  Oh and she took a trip to Tahiti to with the cast as an escape. Tonight she is saying no support from the others who all have their husbands and mothers and in a year's time she lost her mother and lover.  No shame in Vicki's game being the neediest person alive.

 

This season was weird I went from being a fairly staunch supporter of Vicki and her relationship with Brooks.  I felt bad for the medical records until it became obvious that Brooks left his supporters, Shannon and Heather, no other out than to take the bait of doing the unthinkable of suggesting Brooks provide a medical record. He may not be lying about having cancer but I am convinced he has told a few tales about his course of treatment.   

 

I also think Vicki needs to be put on half time pay.  She refuses to interact in any meaningful way with the rest of the cast and even demanded her daughter not mention Brooks.  She got very old and dried out this season.  She won't even take pictures.  Now it is bring Gretchen back-no, please no hire rich and independent not starving reality stars.

[Scrambled Fog]

So Vicki is still upset the season was devoted to her mourning the loss if her mother. I feel for anyone losing a parent but the fact is no one on the cast had ever met Vicki's mom. In the three months between her mother's death and the finale, Vicki went back to Chicago twice to be with family and friends, Billy came out twice and she visited Briana and Briana visited her. Oh and she took a trip to Tahiti to with the cast as an escape. Tonight she is saying no support from the others who all have their husbands and mothers and in a year's time she lost her mother and lover. No shame in Vicki's game being the neediest person alive.

This season was weird I went from being a fairly staunch supporter of Vicki and her relationship with Brooks. I felt bad for the medical records until it became obvious that Brooks left his supporters, Shannon and Heather, no other out than to take the bait of doing the unthinkable of suggesting Brooks provide a medical record. He may not be lying about having cancer but I am convinced he has told a few tales about his course of treatment.

I also think Vicki needs to be put on half time pay. She refuses to interact in any meaningful way with the rest of the cast and even demanded her daughter not mention Brooks. She got very old and dried out this season. She won't even take pictures. Now it is bring Gretchen back-no, please no hire rich and independent not starving reality stars.

I can't blame Vicki for not wanting to interact w/ those women. She was very defensive this season (more so than her default defensiveness). She had good reason to feel defensive. She was piled on.

I never really liked Vicki. She started to grow on me a little last season.

Now, I just feel sorry for her. No one deserves to be treated the way she has been treated.

[ivygirl]

Funny things I noticed on my re-watch...

* Crusader Meghan ready to leap into action at the mention of the word "cancer"

* Per Tamra, you can't argue with a pastor. It's illegal and you'll go to hell!

Edited October 13, 2015 by ivygirl

[charming]

This season was weird I went from being a fairly staunch supporter of Vicki and her relationship with Brooks. I felt bad for the medical records until it became obvious that Brooks left his supporters, Shannon and Heather, no other out than to take the bait of doing the unthinkable of suggesting Brooks provide a medical record. He may not be lying about having cancer but I am convinced he has told a few tales about his course of treatment.

Yep I'm right there with you. The moment Brooks tried to convince everyone is when I started thinking something was off.

I don't blame the other women for being skeptical.