Teresa Checks In Part 1: Tre Of Life

[Rhetorica]

Hobby Lobby, Papa Johns, and Chic filet won't change their views no matter the people that refuse to shop these stores. Just as Starbucks, Cheerios, and JC Penny won't stop ad campaigns that piss certain people off. Profit isn't the only driving force of these companies.

[LibertarianSlut]

Also, we do not know IF Teresa will be allowed to even film, she will be on probation for 2 years after her release and the Feds have to give their ok for filming. She will NOT be allowed to travel out of state on trips, no alcohol and other restrictions so it remains to be seen if this, filming, will be allowed at all.

 

There is no way to determine if the "Majority" of the RHNJ viewers want her back or not at this point, the court of public opinion is still out on that one, only the overall end ratings will answer that. LOL

Where did you get the idea that she won't be allowed to have alcohol? People on federal probation are told they can't use alcohol "excessively," and they obviously can't be in possession of illegal controlled substances. But any prohibition on alcohol is news to me...

And, as I understand it, she will be allowed to travel out of the jurisdiction as long as she has permission. That is a far cry from no travel out of state.

I think Teresa Guidice's post-prison life will look a lot like Teresa Guidice's pre-prison life. It's actually freaking me out how similar she manages to make her prison life look like pre-prison life.

[ryebread]

I fall firmly on the side of the majority of corporations being all about the money. Michael Vick went to jail for 2 years for dog fighting. Drowning and hanging dogs that were poor performers. There was also some tax evasion in there. But he came out of jail and immediately got signed. Two years after that he won the NFL Comeback of the Year award. BAAARRRF. I'd love to see a boycott of the NFL but that ain't gonna happen.

I care too little about Teresa and Joe to worry about their rise or fall. They just make for interesting TV - at the moment - and interesting discussion here sometimes. Maybe that makes me morally corrupt for being entertained by these two but if I had the inclination to boycott something or someone, there are bigger fish to fry.

Edited October 19, 2015 by ryebread

[WireWrap]

Where did you get the idea that she won't be allowed to have alcohol? People on federal probation are told they can't use alcohol "excessively," and they obviously can't be in possession of illegal controlled substances. But any prohibition on alcohol is news to me...

And, as I understand it, she will be allowed to travel out of the jurisdiction as long as she has permission. That is a far cry from no travel out of state.

I think Teresa Guidice's post-prison life will look a lot like Teresa Guidice's pre-prison life. It's actually freaking me out how similar she manages to make her prison life look like pre-prison life.

When she first gets out, unless she has to serve until Feb 2016, she will be under stricter rules that just standard probation. She will either go to a halfway house or she may be allowed to go home but either way, alcohol will be a no no, as well as out of state travel according to what was written in several articles. From what I have read so far, no decision has been made to her being released before/near Christmas or where she will live if released then as of yet. Her Lawyer is trying to make it sound like that decision was already made, but it has not as far as we know.

[LotusFlower]

Of course they pulled their ads immediately! It doesn't take a genius PR exec to know that a molester and the family who covered for him is not going to be welcome by 99% of the viewers. Even before the days of social media campaigns they would have been done. Don't want to offend the great majority as that would cost them $$$.

This isn't exactly how it went down. The Duggars show was TLC's highest-rated show, so they did NOT want to cancel it. In fact, it took them months before they made the decision to cancel, and it was reported that they finally did so not because of viewer outrage or any moral standards, but because of pressure from sponsors. That's why it's so analogous to Bravo and the Giudice show. Like TLC, Bravo only cares about ratings and keeping its talent, its commodities. Only sponsors have influence over programming, which is why I keep urging anyone who's protesting to skip Bravo and go straight to the advertisers. And guess what aired on TLC tonight? A preview for a 3-part special on the Duggar girls. Can't make this stuff up.

[LotusFlower]

Where did you get the idea that she won't be allowed to have alcohol? People on federal probation are told they can't use alcohol "excessively," and they obviously can't be in possession of illegal controlled substances. But any prohibition on alcohol is news to me...

And, as I understand it, she will be allowed to travel out of the jurisdiction as long as she has permission. That is a far cry from no travel out of state.

When she first gets out, unless she has to serve until Feb 2016, she will be under stricter rules that just standard probation. She will either go to a halfway house or she may be allowed to go home but either way, alcohol will be a no no, as well as out of state travel according to what was written in several articles.

Maybe there's confusion as to her early release? If she's released at the end of December, either to a halfway house or home confinement, then she's still technically serving her sentence until Feb. 5, and with that comes a lot of restrictions, ie. a curfew, no out-of-state travel, and ankle bracelet monitoring if she goes home. After Feb. 5, she'll be on probation for two years, and while I'm sure there are a lot of restrictions and stipulations, I'm not sure what they are. Olive is a poster here who knows a lot about the BOP and its rules and regulations, so maybe she can chime in with better info.

[happykitteh]

 

 

 

 

 

That's quite a blanket statement. It's true for most companies, but not all. Some companies have other goals - ranging from the do-gooder, socially responsible type, to simply an aversion to bad press.

 

 

Hobby Lobby, Papa Johns, and Chic filet won't change their views no matter the people that refuse to shop these stores. Just as Starbucks, Cheerios, and JC Penny won't stop ad campaigns that piss certain people off. Profit isn't the only driving force of these companies.

 

 

Yes it is. There is a *huge* group of people who want to shop at those stores *because* their policies are in line with their views.

 

^^^Gimmipizza is correct^^^. Corporations profile their likely customer base and pander to them for profits. I respectfully opine that anyone who believes CEOs care about people or causes rather than profit and shareholders is naive. It's their job to make money. In the end profit always wins. Example: Whole Foods knows their customer base tends towards younger urbanites with a liberal bent. In order to pander to that base he executed a "redistribution of wealth" move where he said he would lower his salary to $1 a year and give the lower echelon employees raises out of his former salary as a way to promote "caring capitalism". Of course he conveniently left out the part about his $500,00 worth of stock options but he hit all the buzz words necessary to please the likely customer base of Whole Foods with his "distribute the wealth" attitude and announcement. Fast forward to last month when it was announced that Whole Foods would be laying off 1500 employees because profits and stock prices are down/not meeting expectations. Employees may reapply for jobs at other stores in the chain at a starting (re:lower) salary. Suddenly that "caring capitalism" he spoke of is out the window because profits rule above all else including what is best for the lower level employees, public perception and good pr.

Edited October 19, 2015 by happykitteh

[happykitteh]

 

Of course they pulled their ads immediately! It doesn't take a genius PR exec to know that a molester and the family who covered for him is not going to be welcome by 99% of the viewers. Even before the days of social media campaigns they would have been done. Don't want to offend the great majority as that would cost them $$$.

 

This isn't exactly how it went down. The Duggars show was TLC's highest-rated show, so they did NOT want to cancel it. In fact, it took them months before they made the decision to cancel, and it was reported that they finally did so not because of viewer outrage or any moral standards, but because of pressure from sponsors. That's why it's so analogous to Bravo and the Giudice show. Like TLC, Bravo only cares about ratings and keeping its talent, its commodities. Only sponsors have influence over programming, which is why I keep urging anyone who's protesting to skip Bravo and go straight to the advertisers. And guess what aired on TLC tonight? A preview for a 3-part special on the Duggar girls. Can't make this stuff up.

 

The PR execs I was referring to are the pr execs of the sponsor companies, not TLC. As I said, NO sponsor is going to be associated with a program that offends 99% of the population, which I would think (hope) would be the case with a show featuring a pedophile. Even without a social media campaign the sponsors would have pulled out because to not do so would harm their profits. I don't think it takes a social media campaign to figure  out not to associate your products with a pedophile, lol.TLC will also follow the money and if they (wrongly,IMO) thought the Duggar show would bring them profits and not offend such a large swath of the population they were willing to keep going with it. Again, always follow the money. Tre is money. What she and Joe did is wrong but not even close to the level of wrong of a pedophile whose victims included his own siblings. (so muck yuck-glad I never watched that show!) For whatever reason people keep watching the Guidices. Maybe to hopefully see them finally "get theirs", maybe to see if they will ever admit wrongdoing, show genuine remorse or a show sense of shame for what they've done - however unlikely.  All I know is if they get the ratings the sponsors will stay.

 

ETA: If pressure from sponsors caused the cancellation of the Duggars why is there a Duggar girls special airing? Perhaps the sponsors who were previously outraged sensed an opportunity to make $$$ using the loophole that since the perv won't be on the show all is well with viewers? I'm assuming this special will not be commercial free, no?

 

Edited October 19, 2015 by happykitteh

[LotusFlower]

I think everybody agrees that companies care about making money above all else (although some of us are saying that some companies have other goals and mission statements as well). I think the gist of the disagreement lies in whether Bravo and its sponsors consider the Giudices a marketable and popular commodity. By filming this special, Bravo seems to think so, or is at least testing the water with the 3-part show. Then they'll determine if it's a popular decision by ratings and feedback and buzz. The sponsors are different - most advertise on the network, not necessarily on one particular show, so they'll only pull their advertising on a show if there's some kind of controversy attached to it.

[Mya Stone]

Guys...let's chill on the Duggar comparisons.

I understand why it was made, but that's a road (to hell) that I don't want to travel.

[Ubiquitous]

I must have blocked out or missed the tampon statement.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[Duke2801]

I did not watch the show, but for some reason, I did see that skanky "on display" nitwit barking about giving her niece a "ride or a tampon," as if it were the greatest act of beneficence in the history of mankind. I thought to myself, "Why in the name of God is a crazed ape talking about a tampon in relation to her little eighth-grade niece?" If these pigs were any more grotesque, these shows would be rated NC-17. So vulgar and gross. I realize that the "poison receptacle" has the smallest brain of any living creature, but good Lord.

 

I'm not even close to a Melissa fan or apologist, but I'm failing to see how the tampon reference inspires such vitriol?  I mean, are we really that much of a prude society that the mere mention of a female's (whisper voice)//menstruation// (whisper voice) is "gross and vulgar"?

 

I mean, come on. 

[ryebread]

I'm not even close to a Melissa fan or apologist, but I'm failing to see how the tampon reference inspires such vitriol?  I mean, are we really that much of a prude society that the mere mention of a female's (whisper voice)//menstruation// (whisper voice) is "gross and vulgar"?

 

I mean, come on.

I agree. I'm more annoyed at Kyle for feeling the need to show us her legs spread in the air while getting her lady bits waxxed (what, 3 times now?) than I am at Melissa for mentioning a tampon for Gia.

[BogoGog24]

Yeah I mean it's not exactly a secret to anyone that women have their periods and that they need tampons. If you really think about it, who else is going to get those supplies for her? Her father? And her other sisters are all too young to be starting on that. I didn't watch the special but I'm assuming Melissa meant that statement both literally and figuratively, that basically if Gia or the other girls need female advice, she's one of the few nearby relatives they have to turn to, besides maybe Kathy or Rosie.

[StevieRocks]

I'm not even close to a Melissa fan or apologist, but I'm failing to see how the tampon reference inspires such vitriol?  I mean, are we really that much of a prude society that the mere mention of a female's (whisper voice)//menstruation// (whisper voice) is "gross and vulgar"?

 

I mean, come on. 

Oh, my disdain for the poison receptacle is most definitely not limited to this one remark. I find her patently offensive in about 100 different ways.  Most of us could catalog the myriad reasons why we find her revolting, but my biggest pet peeve, (other than her advocating marital rape), is that this caterwauling ho would try to be a singer just because she’s a fame-whoring ape. As someone who appreciates music and talented, HARD-WORKING musicians, this makes me seethe with disgust.

 

Regarding this ape’s barking up about tampons, I felt sorry for poor Gia, who, after all, is a little 8th-grade child. She was probably mortified when she heard this illiterate chickenhead/”wrench” <eyeroll>  squawking about her period on national tv. And actually, I think I usually do whisper when I talk about something as personal as an offer of a tampon. <Shrug> To each his own. 

Edited October 19, 2015 by StevieRocks

[BogoGog24]

Melissa's for sure not a great singer but I did download "On Display" on my phone and listen to it often. IMO her other songs weren't nearly as good but I do enjoy that one. When it comes to these reality stars doing music, most of them pour their own money into it, and usually don't make any of it back, so it's not like they are taking something from someone else, i.e. competing on American Idol for a record contract or getting signed to a label. So if Melissa wants to spend her own money to put out songs nobody buys, I don't really see an issue. It's not like her singing career ever really went anywhere, even with the help of the show.

[Bossa Nova]

 

I kind of wondered if the reason she looked better and more relaxed, as reported by Gia, was connected to the fact that she's been free and clear of Melissa.

 

I wonder if Teresa told Gia to report back to all how good she looked because she knew that would get on TV.

 

Or it might not be quite as sinister/manipulative as that. Maybe just an understandable thing for a parent to say to a child so they don't worry. Suggestive selling, like,"...Don't I look good, Gia? See how relaxed I am and doing fine."

Edited October 19, 2015 by Bossa Nova

[talula]

Oh, my disdain for the poison receptacle is most definitely not limited to this one remark. I find her patently offensive in about 100 different ways.  Most of us could catalog the myriad reasons why we find her revolting, but my biggest pet peeve, (other than her advocating marital rape), is that this caterwauling ho would try to be a singer just because she’s a fame-whoring ape. As someone who appreciates music and talented, HARD-WORKING musicians, this makes me seethe with disgust.

 

Regarding this ape’s barking up about tampons, I felt sorry for poor Gia, who, after all, is a little 8th-grade child. She was probably mortified when she heard this illiterate chickenhead/”wrench” <eyeroll>  squawking about her period on national tv. And actually, I think I usually do whisper when I talk about something as personal as an offer of a tampon. <Shrug> To each his own.

If Gia needs anything she'd ask her dad's cousin before Melissa. Juicy's cousin is there on a regular basis for the girls as shown in part 2 of the series. I think the cousin's name is also Teresa.

[Giselle]

 

As far as I'm concerned, the house is unsellable. Esp. with that memorial thing in the back. No one wants something like that on their property.

 

 

Well if the new owners are in to repurposing they could turn it over and use the back side as a table all they would need is a base. Granted Joe would hit the roof of his prison cell.

[Marigny]

I quote "Don't Be Tardy" and "Money Can't Buy You Class" to my friends all the time. They just don't know it because they don't watch this shit.

Elegance is learned, my friends. 

[SFoster21]

I wonder if Teresa told Gia to report back to all how good she looked because she knew that would get on TV.

Or it might not be quite as sinister/manipulative as that. Maybe just an understandable thing for a parent to say to a child so they don't worry. Suggestive selling, like,"...Don't I look good, Gia? See how relaxed I am and doing fine."

Well, she is free of the burden of contemplating jail and she knows that the time will pass. I don't doubt she is more relaxed than last year.

[Marigny]

I wonder if Teresa told Gia to report back to all how good she looked because she knew that would get on TV.

 

 

I most definitely think that Tre is using Gia as a mouthpiece/front woman while she's on the inside. Let's not forget that this is the same woman who was having conversations about family issues with an 11 year old like she was one of her 35 year old girlfriends. 

[Iguessnot]

Yeah I mean it's not exactly a secret to anyone that women have their periods and that they need tampons. If you really think about it, who else is going to get those supplies for her? Her father? And her other sisters are all too young to be starting on that. I didn't watch the special but I'm assuming Melissa meant that statement both literally and figuratively, that basically if Gia or the other girls need female advice, she's one of the few nearby relatives they have to turn to, besides maybe Kathy or Rosie.

 

I was a awkward statement she made and betrayed her real feelings. Substitute a roll of toilet paper, a scrubbing sponge or a bottle of Vagisil, a tube of Preparation H. All useful items, but to get on camera and mention such items as a declaration of your care and affection? Yeah, Melissa, I see you.

 

I also found it strange how Joe kept referring to Gia as his Godchild without prefacing it with niece. But I think it clarifies that things are so bad between the Guidices and Gorgas, that the only bond he will/can honor is a sacramental one.

Edited October 24, 2015 by Iguessnot

[zoeysmom]

Didn't Gia bra shop, run down the facts of life were her mom and sisters on camera oh and Teresa discuss her IUD with her?  I think having an aunt mention tampon is way down the stream from taking calls from mom in prison.  Of course , she will be comforted to know Dad pleasures himself on the family couch while having phone sex with mom. 

[NewDigs]

Didn't Gia bra shop, run down the facts of life were her mom and sisters on camera oh and Teresa discuss her IUD with her?  I think having an aunt mention tampon is way down the stream from taking calls from mom in prison.  Of course , she will be comforted to know Dad pleasures himself on the family couch while having phone sex with mom.

I had a point and then I read the, she will be comforted...Dad...couch...phone sex..., and went totally blank.

Ah. Now I remember.

The tampon mention as a privacy thing was not, to me, a big deal.

I agree with whoever upthread pointed out that anyone would help a girl out with a tampon, or a ride.

Maybe Melissa could have offered something more substantial.

[Jennifersdc]

I noticed somebody mentioned it up thread here or somewhere else awhile ago, but forgot to ask.

Now that mystery of the Gucci china is solved - where is Lablover?

[Petunia13]

Gia is really beautiful now.

I see a nose job in her future.

[One Tough Cookie]

I see a nose job in her future.

and Audriana is going to need electrolysis in the future to get rid of that budding mustache she's working on.

 

{my handbag is nicely decorated for the ride I'm going to be taking...}

Edited October 26, 2015 by One More Time