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Stella, being single isn't "being all alone in the world." Ugh. How much more offensive are they going to make this judgmental buttinsky?

LOL at Finn's "You look pretty" to Hayden. ME says that to all the actresses he works with.

FFS, Rebecca Budig, TELL FINN. I'm fairly certain he won't immediately run away screaming.

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You know, if they're trying to make me hate someone more than I hate Sonny, they're reallly working it with this Jared character.  You just saw Hayden at the park, she told you you'd get your money tomorrow, why are you leaving her another nasty message on her voicemail.  Ugh.  I just can't.  

Am I the only one insulted by Dr Bensch's whole "you should be a doctor because you're less than if you remain a nurses' aid'.  

Stella needs to shut it and take a couple of seats.  

So much UGH>  

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27 minutes ago, Perkie said:

You know, if they're trying to make me hate someone more than I hate Sonny, they're reallly working it with this Jared character.  You just saw Hayden at the park, she told you you'd get your money tomorrow, why are you leaving her another nasty message on her voicemail.

Nope, I still hate Sonny much, much, much more. Heh. All Rebecca Budig has to do to end this is to tell Finn, but she won't because the plot won't let her. In the GH scheme of things, drunk driving and paralyzing a kid is maybe a 3 on a 10-point scale. The kid is alive, after all.

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Only when the story demands she's too old. TBH, I'm surprised it wasn't Avery, since Ava has to shock and disgust the entire population of Port Charles, including her own child. Twisting that knife would make Carly and Sonny even more reluctant to let Ava see Avery. "You scare your own child! Have you no shame?"

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2 hours ago, Linny said:

Props to Mac for looking decent without a shirt on for a man of his age.

He looked hot today. Like damn.

Today was deeply boring, but I didn't hate it. I mean any ep that's free of Sonny/Carly/Jason/Franco/Ava is already better than most eps.

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14 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Lulu and Laura are both off canvas, so I'm guessing this is one of Valentin's magical IMMEDIATE allowed temporary visits.

Laura is taking Spencer back to boarding school in France, but has anything been said about Lulu? I think ER was on mat leave when these eps were filmed, but Lulu's absence hasn't been mentioned. They could have said she took Rocco to Bensonhurst to see his Falconeri relatives.

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Given Dante was working the Spencer case, the assumption has to be that Lulu knew.  And it doesn't matter that Valentin was accused of anything, as he *didn't* take Spencer, so it's not like that would have any standing with his visitation with Charlotte.

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46 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And it doesn't matter that Valentin was accused of anything, as he *didn't* take Spencer, so it's not like that would have any standing with his visitation with Charlotte.

Valentin need only mention the latest incident that involved Sonny "World's Best Grandpa" Corinthos and guns.

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On 8/8/2017 at 4:07 PM, lor said:

 why is the cook named cook? 

 

This has always bothered me.  No matter how many cooks they have had over the years, they are all called "Cook" by the Qs.  Or "Cook Number One", "Number Two", something like that.  It's just such a crappy, rich person thing to do.

Loved hearing the chaos and breakage in the kitchen!  Too bad Olivia had to overstep and fire someone she had no business firing.

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3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I really do not understand what the show is trying to set up with Dr. Bensch.  He reappears today, completely divorced from Sam's storyline, even though he was the doctor who first saw her.  Then I was worried we were going somewhere skeevy with him talking to Kiki about applying to medical school.  And then he was flirting with Jordan, so maybe he's a spoiler for her and Curtis?  W-H-A-T?

Didn't he just order a blood test and completely missed the right diagnosis? Anyway, I'm deeply suspicious of him today because he is obviously on the make. By grossly flattering nubile blonde Kiki, he is obviously trying to get into her pants. If he's a real doctor he would be totally concentrating on the patient in the ER, not some post-Candy Striper's actions. Later, my impression was confirmed when he started coming on to Jordan and asked her for a date. This man is on the make, and I would be afraid to be alone with him.

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That whole Stella thing today was cringeworthy.  And stupid - why would any adult mistake the noises of passion to someone being hurt?  Then, instead of thinking, "Oops, my bad!" she wants to have Mac and Felicia arrested???  No one does that.

I also thought Valerie's "Bye, Felicia" could only have been worse if she had done some hand gestures with it.  It wasn't clever.  It bordered on stereotyping.

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4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

LOL that being a good nurse's aide means Lauren will be a good doctor. Maybe she doesn't want all that responsibility. Maybe she wants regular hours. Maybe she doesn't want to spend three weeks (heh) becoming a doctor. Even though Dr. Bensch said there are never enough good nurses' aides, he still insulted them.

The man is on the make, and he doesn't truly value women except as sex objects IMO. He is skeevy, indeed. I wonder if he is a rapist. My radar was going off 

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I don't know what they're trying to do with the Aunt Stella stuff.  Find something that annoys me even more than the Sonny/Sam plot? 

The Hayden scenes are so snooze-worthy, all I could concentrate on was how badly matched her red top and black and white print skirt was.  She would have been better wearirng yesterday's white top.

8 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Olivia's Italian mamma schtick has always gotten on my nerves. The writing overdoes the clichés and LiLoC overplays them. This business with Cook is really insulting and dumb. There's nothing wrong with Olivia using the kitchen, but she couldn't ask or give Cook a head's up? Try to get to know her before barging in and taking over her domain? Or, maybe believe Ned when he tells you what the house customs are. When I'm visiting my mom, in the house I grew up in, I always ask before I start cooking or baking, unless it's making coffee or toast or something like that. I'm in my mother's kitchen, not mine. It's called courtesy, Olivia. Look into it. And then she fires Cook? You aren't paying her salary, Liv.

We had a housekeeper when I was growing up because my parents worked such long  hours and while I was allowed in the kitchen, it was only after she had finished for the day and I always had to clean up completely after myself.  It's not such a big deal to share a kitchen, you just have have to have some sense of empathy.

Now that Olivia has fired Cook, is she going to cook for the whole Quartermaine contingent on top of her full-time job and her toddler?

2 hours ago, Perkie said:

Am I the only one insulted by Dr Bensch's whole "you should be a doctor because you're less than if you remain a nurses' aid'. 

While I know I should be going "yay hospital storyline"  "Yay woman doctor", I can't express how offensive I found that whole thing.  The idea that a doctor is her supervisor rather than a nurse, that simply handing things over shows she'd be a good doctor, that Kiki knows enough about anatomy, biochemistry and everything else pre-med to actually get into med school, that seeing her once shows she's able to compete is so incredibly insulting to all real pre-med students.

And while they may be accelerated medical programs, they admit people with advanced degrees in physiology and other medical-related disciplines, not someone who just got out of a nurse's aide program and is still on probation.

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3 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Didn't he just order a blood test and completely missed the right diagnosis? Anyway, I'm deeply suspicious of him today because he is obviously on the make. By grossly flattering nubile blonde Kiki, he is obviously trying to get into her pants. If he's a real doctor he would be totally concentrating on the patient in the ER, not some post-Candy Striper's actions. Later, my impression was confirmed when he started coming on to Jordan and asked her for a date. This man is on the make, and I would be afraid to be alone with him.

What I found gross was his "stern paternalism" when he first approached Kiki, making her think he was upset with her.  Then lavished his approval on her, and bestowed his wise career insights on her /s.   Such a power play, and really creepy.  Plus an insult to nurse's aides everywhere.  Gah! Gh was so annoying today, on so many levels.

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3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Do we know Rebecca Budig's last air date?  Because they really seem to be flying through her downfall this week.

Internet sources about soap news say that Rebecca and William DeVry report they have filmed their last appearances on GH already.

Maxie wears the same style of loose off-the-shoulder blouse every time we see her since she returned. Can't see her waist.  I found it quite ironic that Mac and Felicia were discovered in foreplay in a public place and were chewed out by a frowning Maxie, since not all that long ago Maxie herself was in deep trouble for having sex, and pics were available on the internet or cell phones etc..

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3 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Internet sources about soap news say that Rebecca and William DeVry report they have filmed their last appearances on GH already.

Why do both these actors have appearances scheduled for soap conventions this fall if they are leaving the show?  I don't get it.

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10 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I have no problem with Sam saying she loves Sonny

I do. Cause, since when? 

Of course it's not any more ridiculous than Kristina suddenly becoming Sonny's biggest fan but it is yet another example of the writers not knowing/not caring about character history - combined with the new stupid drama-killing directive that everybody must love Sonny

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4 hours ago, HipOldBat said:

Why do both these actors have appearances scheduled for soap conventions this fall if they are leaving the show?  I don't get it.

I don't know what soap opera conventions are like but on the sci fi/fantary con circuit, actors continue to attend events years after they have left the show or decades after the show has been cancelled.  They give insights into the show and tell anecdotes about what it's like working on it.  The money from autographs and pictures with fans is pretty good too.

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After the conversation with Monica, Olivia did talk to the Cook person about sharing the kitchen, and (per her account to Michael and Ned) she just got inflexibility in response.

Olivia: I was just in the kitchen. Ah, did Monica not explain -- I was trying to make peace with Cook. I told her that maybe you and Monica would be willing to finance her very own cookbook if she was willing to share the kitchen with me.

Ned: And?

Olivia: No go.

Ned: Oh, well, don't take it personally.

Olivia: It's funny that you should say that. Those are exactly the words that I used when I fired her disrespectful tush.

So, no, I'm not siding with the invisible character who's solely there for humor that hasn't been funny in 20 years. People hired to do jobs don't boss around the adults they serve. Screw "Cook." Yes, it was Monica's place to rein her in or fire her, but it was also Monica's place not to let her phantom employee push her and her family around. If Monica has objections, she can have a plate of ziti and STFU, as far as I'm concerned. If she's that mousy, Olivia can smoothly assume the role of the kitchen person the house's actual owner is afraid of, or Olivia can hire someone sane to shoulder the load. I don't know about you guys, but I would definitely eat whatever a psychic prepares. They'd know exactly which culinary experiments would not turn out well.   

On Stella: It was a little over the top, but Felicia and Mac were being gross. There's "spicing up the love life," and there's completely the wrong time and place. The park in the middle of the day, kiddies and old folks running around, and Felicia moaning in the bushes like someone whose rapist had just fled? Of course, if Sonny/Carly or Jason/Sam had done the same, they would have gotten a wink and some fluffing about how lovely a couple they are, I know, but it still wasn't right.

Mac's comment to Valerie also rubbed me the wrong way. Threatening a young, low-level cop because you used to be the commissioner, still have a lot of friends in the department, "so I hope we understand each other"? This is what a privileged douche who thinks he is about the law does, and usually the worst I can say against Mac is that he's boring. He should have spent a night in jail just for that line.  

Kirsten Storms looked lovely.  

Another small point for progressiveness to Stella, adding "significant other" to the list of possible partners Valerie may have, as if she realized limiting her scope to opposite-sex ones could be offensive.   

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1 hour ago, Asp Burger said:

On Stella: It was a little over the top, but Felicia and Mac were being gross. There's "spicing up the love life," and there's completely the wrong time and place. The park in the middle of the day, kiddies and old folks running around, and Felicia moaning in the bushes like someone whose rapist had just fled? Of course, if Sonny/Carly or Jason/Sam had done the same, they would have gotten a wink and some fluffing about how lovely a couple they are, I know, but it still wasn't right.

I agree. And I don't think Maxie had to know about it either. Yes she is an adult now but Felicia and Mac should still keep their love life private from their kids. If they are having trouble with their love life they can get therapy and counseling or even watch softporn rather than having foreplay or sex in public in an attempt to "spice it up".

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6 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

On Stella: It was a little over the top, but Felicia and Mac were being gross. There's "spicing up the love life," and there's completely the wrong time and place. The park in the middle of the day, kiddies and old folks running around, and Felicia moaning in the bushes like someone whose rapist had just fled? Of course, if Sonny/Carly or Jason/Sam had done the same, they would have gotten a wink and some fluffing about how lovely a couple they are, I know, but it still wasn't right.

I think the aim of this was to shine a light on Ask Man Landers' "dangerous" influence and light a fire under Maxie to unmask him, snore.

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11 hours ago, Oracle42 said:
21 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I have no problem with Sam saying she loves Sonny

I do. Cause, since when? 

Sam and Jason and Sonny have been shown to be pretty close. It's only with this illness that Sam has realized that Jason working for Sonny is a bad idea. 

6 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

The park in the middle of the day, kiddies and old folks running around, and Felicia moaning in the bushes like someone whose rapist had just fled?

It's not like Mac and Felicia were doing it in an open field. And Felicia wasn't screaming, "Fuck me harder, Mac!" It was pretty harmless, if completely dumb. Once Maxie realized what Felicia and Mac were up to, she didn't have to stick around. As TeeVee329 wrote, it was about getting Maxie to unmask Ask Man Landers. And show what a busybody Stella is. Demanding that charges get filed against Mac and Felicia? Ugh. She's the worst.

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7 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

After the conversation with Monica, Olivia did talk to the Cook person about sharing the kitchen, and (per her account to Michael and Ned) she just got inflexibility in response.

Olivia: I was just in the kitchen. Ah, did Monica not explain -- I was trying to make peace with Cook. I told her that maybe you and Monica would be willing to finance her very own cookbook if she was willing to share the kitchen with me.

Ned: And?

Olivia: No go.

Ned: Oh, well, don't take it personally.

Olivia: It's funny that you should say that. Those are exactly the words that I used when I fired her disrespectful tush.

So, no, I'm not siding with the invisible character who's solely there for humor that hasn't been funny in 20 years. People hired to do jobs don't boss around the adults they serve. Screw "Cook." Yes, it was Monica's place to rein her in or fire her, but it was also Monica's place not to let her phantom employee push her and her family around. If Monica has objections, she can have a plate of ziti and STFU, as far as I'm concerned. If she's that mousy, Olivia can smoothly assume the role of the kitchen person the house's actual owner is afraid of, or Olivia can hire someone sane to shoulder the load. I don't know about you guys, but I would definitely eat whatever a psychic prepares. They'd know exactly which culinary experiments would not turn out well.   

It is not Olivia's damn place to fire someone else's employee. I don't care how disrespectful she found Monica's employee. Monica can't walk into the Metrocourt's dining room and fire a bartender or wait staff if she doesn't like their attitude. If Monica is fine with her cook's rules, then that is Monica's problem. Olivia can live elsewhere. Or demand a family meeting. But it irks me to no end that Olivia took Monica's pep talk as a sign for her to go around and make wholesale, important changes in a home that is not her own. Should Ned just walk into the Metrocourt and start painting walls?  

It is Monica's house. Monica's employees. Monica's rules. If Olivia couldn't deal with Cook's rules (which have been ok'd by Monica since her hiring) then she should've brought it back up with Monica. The only solution that Olivia has is to move out. Monica can renovate the house. Monica can tell Cook that it is permissible for Olivia to use the kitchen for her cooking. Monica can set the kitchen rules. Would it also be ok for Olivia to just decide to knock down a few walls without asking Monica?

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Sam and Jason and Sonny have been shown to be pretty close. It's only with this illness that Sam has realized that Jason working for Sonny is a bad idea.

And that will least about as long as I can hold my breathe.

Olivia's battle with Cook is a stupid storyline but at least it's not about Sonny.Carly.Jason/Sam.

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Raise your hand if you didn't see it coming that Valentin was going to use Charlotte being inappropriately rude to Ava as a way to badger Ava to doing his bidding and again dangling the surgery in front of her. Good on her for, again, turning it down.

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8 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Raise your hand if you didn't see it coming that Valentin was going to use Charlotte being inappropriately rude to Ava as a way to badger Ava to doing his bidding and again dangling the surgery in front of her. Good on her for, again, turning it down.

Me, but I liked it.  It's a very SOAPY thing to do because while he was good with Charlotte, he was not above using the situation to his advantage. And while Ava is tempted, she's determined to hang onto whatever goodness she has left.  It was SUCH a good scene, very classic soap.  I wonder if Quasi is going to try to give proof Nikolas is alive still to sway Ava some more.

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If they wanted to have someone gawk at Ava, they should have picked someone younger and less sophisticated than Charlotte. I don't buy that her manners would be so poor that she'd act like that in public. But whatever, it was just a clumsy way for Valentin to pitch his offer to Ava again, because nothing on this show happens organically. That perfect line of demarcation down the middle of Ava's face is a prime example of that fact.

I hate that DA, I hate Julexis, and I hate that we're having to rehash this shit yet again.

Who gives a fuck about Kristina's eighteenth semester in college or anything to do with Parker? What a random thing to devote time to.

Finn's bubble of happiness is so close to bursting, I can't wait. I didn't like him as an addict, but this happy version of him where he delivers all his lines as if he's breathless with excitement is almost more annoying.

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So Molly and Kristina are given time on screen and it's mostly to harass Alexis for the umpteenth time about Julian?  Alexis should have firmly shut ALL that shit down the moment it started. "You've both made your feelings very clear and I love you both. That said, the topic is closed. Tell me about what classes you're taking."  I'm not surprised that their badgering Alexis didn't turn into showing up and supporting her while she gave testimony at Julian's trial.  So they don't mind harassing their Mother again and again, but in turn, do nothing to show her any kind of support when she has to go to court? Bad, bad, bad.

And I continue to DESPISE this bullshit logic the writers continue to peddle regarding Julian. I completely get Molly and Kristina hating Julian for what he's done, but for them to bleat endlessly about what he did to Duke and their respective fathers is just STUPID. Someone, ANYONE, please take these idiots aside and clap the fuck back already! Kristina, in particular, needs to be dished out some wake the hell up food.  Julian is not REMOTELY partially responsible for Morgan's death.

Oh, but I love the sexist shit of three extremely fit/trim women eating nothing but salads and talking about babysitting Danny and Scout in shifts to help Sam.  No, how about Jason get off his lazy ass and PARENT his own damn children for once and get his own damned help while Sam recovers. Neither of these jokers are working and they currently live off Jason's blood money so let HIM sort it out himself.

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2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Olivia's battle with Cook is a stupid storyline but at least it's not about Sonny.Carly.Jason/Sam.

I can't imagine we'll even hear about this again.  And if we do, it'll be in four to six weeks.

11 minutes ago, Linny said:

Who gives a fuck about Kristina's eighteenth semester in college or anything to do with Parker? What a random thing to devote time to.

+1. 

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Someone needs to remind Kristina that if Julian is a proximate cause to Morgan's death, so is Sonny. 

31 minutes ago, Linny said:

If they wanted to have someone gawk at Ava, they should have picked someone younger and less sophisticated than Charlotte. I don't buy that her manners would be so poor that she'd act like that in public. But whatever, it was just a clumsy way for Valentin to pitch his offer to Ava again, because nothing on this show happens organically. That perfect line of demarcation down the middle of Ava's face is a prime example of that fact.

This—especially the first two sentences—but I also agree with Vella that it was a good, soapy scene. And it's not as if Charlotte had been actively coached to scream on seeing Ava. 

I love how Ava swans around in a giant scarf. Yeah, that's not inconspicuous at all! And the mask really isn't that shocking. 

Rebecca Budig: "I just we we knew each other better."

Elizabeth: "We will! We have all the time in the world for that."

Me: "Oh, Show. You're so subtle."

Clarence Wideman is the DA! My Veronica Mars-loving heart swelled when I saw him and heard his dulcet tones. Too bad he's stuck in this stupid story.

19 minutes ago, Vella said:

Oh, but I love the sexist shit of three extremely fit/trim women eating nothing but salads and talking about babysitting Danny and Scout in shifts to help Sam.  No, how about Jason get off his lazy ass and PARENT his own damn children for once and get his own damned help while Sam recovers. Neither of these jokers are working and they currently live off Jason's blood money so let HIM sort it out himself.

Come on, now! Jason goes upstairs to look at Scout every now and then, and I'm pretty sure he's taken Danny over to Monica's. 

31 minutes ago, Linny said:

Who gives a fuck about Kristina's eighteenth semester in college or anything to do with Parker? What a random thing to devote time to.

Parker returns, zzzzzz. 

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2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Clarence Wideman is the DA! My Veronica Mars-loving heart swelled when I saw him and heard his dulcet tones. Too bad he's stuck in this stupid story.

Ha! I thought I recognized him! Thank you for that reminder.  I love his voice and he's VERY good looking and on top of that he's a great actor. Of course, he has no place on GH.

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10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I love how Ava swans around in a giant scarf. Yeah, that's not inconspicuous at all! And the mask really isn't that shocking. 

 

I wish they'd show her calling someone so the person's cell phone pic can be of her with mask and scarf on.  And the ringtone should totally be from Phantom of the Opera.  #GoBigOrGoHome

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27 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

This—especially the first two sentences—but I also agree with Vella that it was a good, soapy scene. And it's not as if Charlotte had been actively coached to scream on seeing Ava. 

Valentin has used that child to get what he wants from other people since the second they got to Port Charles. I wouldn't put anything past him.

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Maybe people are also staring at Ava because she's part of a crime family, did that occur to her? Also, has Griffin acknowledged that Ava is the sister of his father's murderer? I'm really asking, I might have missed something.

Liz was funny with Jared. 

Scotty really isn't helping Julian's case.

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8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Also, has Griffin acknowledged that Ava is the sister of his father's murderer? I'm really asking, I might have missed something.

I don't think so. But I also think Griffin is someone who's not going to blame Ava for something a relative did. 

8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Scotty really isn't helping Julian's case.

Scott is a pretty terrible lawyer on a regular basis. I always feel sorry for his clients.

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I only know court scenes from TV but that was pretty dreadful.  Yes, of course it is a possibility but you're badgering the witness, Clarence.  Both Alexis and Scot should have put a stop to it.

1 hour ago, Vella said:

So Molly and Kristina are given time on screen and it's mostly to harass Alexis for the umpteenth time about Julian?  Alexis should have firmly shut ALL that shit down the moment it started. "You've both made your feelings very clear and I love you both. That said, the topic is closed. Tell me about what classes you're taking."  I'm not surprised that their badgering Alexis didn't turn into showing up and supporting her while she gave testimony at Julian's trial.  So they don't mind harassing their Mother again and again, but in turn, do nothing to show her any kind of support when she has to go to court? Bad, bad, bad.

And I continue to DESPISE this bullshit logic the writers continue to peddle regarding Julian. I completely get Molly and Kristina hating Julian for what he's done, but for them to bleat endlessly about what he did to Duke and their respective fathers is just STUPID. Someone, ANYONE, please take these idiots aside and clap the fuck back already! Kristina, in particular, needs to be dished out some wake the hell up food.  Julian is not REMOTELY partially responsible for Morgan's death.

Oh, but I love the sexist shit of three extremely fit/trim women eating nothing but salads and talking about babysitting Danny and Scout in shifts to help Sam.  No, how about Jason get off his lazy ass and PARENT his own damn children for once and get his own damned help while Sam recovers. Neither of these jokers are working and they currently live off Jason's blood money so let HIM sort it out himself.

YES to all of this.

I used to want scenes with the Davis coven but now I hate it whenever Molly and Kristina come on screen because they are so one-dimensional. Okay, Molly gets a second dimension with TJ but Kristina is just consistently awful.  Alexis needs to get her Cassadine on with all three of her daughters.

Don't you love how Jason, the baby whisperer with Michael, never parents his own kids?

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