Green Arrow In Comics

[BkWurm1]

I haven't read the whole article yet but so far my impression is even if it's hard to have GA without the BC (though I don't buy it) it's a LOT better to have BC WITHOUT the GA.  

[Starfish35]

26 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

I haven't read the whole article yet but so far my impression is even if it's hard to have GA without the BC (though I don't buy it) it's a LOT better to have BC WITHOUT the GA.  

It does seem like BC is definitely better off/more developed as a character away from GA, although there's no mention of the Rebirth GA/BC relationship.  I didn't realize that there was a new BoP series going on.  So BC is in both?  Or how does that work?  

I did find this interesting however:

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Several attempts have been made to give the Black Canary her own solo series, but so far, none of them have stuck.

So BC works as part of the BoP, and of course depending on who you ask, works as a supporting character for GA, but apparently doesn't work as a solo character.  I wonder why.  

Edited August 18, 2017 by Starfish35

[BkWurm1]

11 minutes ago, Starfish35 said:

 

So BC works as part of the BoP, and of course depending on who you ask, works as a supporting character for GA, but apparently, doesn't work as a solo character.  I wonder why.  

 

I wonder how many solo, female titles even exist. 

[Starfish35]

3 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

I wonder how many solo, female titles even exist. 

That's a good question.  I wonder how one would even find that out.

[Trini]

32 minutes ago, Starfish35 said:

It does seem like BC is definitely better off/more developed as a character away from GA, although there's no mention of the Rebirth GA/BC relationship.  I didn't realize that there was a new BoP series going on.  So BC is in both?  Or how does that work?  

Yeah, it's weird they didn't mention her appearances in the new Rebirth continuity. Black Canary is currently in 'Birds of Prey', 'Justice League of America', and 'Green Arrow'.

[Starfish35]

13 minutes ago, Trini said:

Yeah, it's weird they didn't mention her appearances in the new Rebirth continuity. Black Canary is currently in 'Birds of Prey', 'Justice League of America', and 'Green Arrow'.

Well, the writer mentioned Birds of Prey, but not the other two.

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Rebirth was a softer reboot than any of the crises that came before. It was the first time Black Canary wouldn’t go through a massive re-imagining, maintaining her New 52 back story but reuniting her with Barbara Gordon and the Birds of Prey. This new version of the Birds is once again written by women, as Julie and Shauna Benson have taken it on since its initial launch. While the series is still in its infancy, especially compared to the decade of stories of its predecessor, it, like the books that have come before, has immediately re-established the dynamic of its characters, bringing back the close friendship between Dinah Lance and Barbara Gordon. With any luck, the Benson Sisters will be able to leave their own mark on the storied history of one of DC Comics' longest running heroines.

[scarynikki12]

56 minutes ago, Starfish35 said:

I didn't realize that there was a new BoP series going on.  So BC is in both?  Or how does that work?  

So BC works as part of the BoP, and of course depending on who you ask, works as a supporting character for GA, but apparently doesn't work as a solo character.  I wonder why.  

It's pretty common, depending on the character.  Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Batgirl, and Harley Quinn, to name just a few, show up in multiple series at the same time.  It's a comic conceit that these heroes and villains are just so busy they can save the day/cause chaos constantly.  Right now Black Canary is involved with the plots of Green Arrow, Birds of Prey and Justice League and the reader isn't meant to worry about where each story fits into the other's continuity.  Sometimes there will be intentional overlap between the series when a larger story is in play but, absent those situations, the reader doesn't have to read all the character issues.  So, if you're like me and have no interest in Green Arrow comics but loves Birds of Prey, you can read the latter to your heart's content without wondering if you're missing anything by not reading the former.  Or, if you're like me and love all things Bat-verse, it can be hard to keep up with all the stories going on and you end up prioritizing between the stories.

I honestly don't know why Black Canary isn't celebrating decades of leading her own series like so many others.  My theory is twofold: she's been so successful a character in the team stories that readers feel there's something lacking on her own (see everyone wondering where Green Arrow was during her stint as a rock star) and the best writers getting assigned to other characters.  A lot of comic writers do love the character but if the best among them don't get to write for her then she doesn't get the chance to truly break out on her own. 

[BkWurm1]

After reading the whole article, my impression was even more enforced that BC is a better and happier character away from GA.  Honestly, being hooked up with GA in rebirth seems like a step back for her.  

It's nice to know she still has Birds of Prey also going on.  

Edited August 18, 2017 by BkWurm1

[yellowfred]

1 hour ago, BkWurm1 said:

I haven't read the whole article yet but so far my impression is even if it's hard to have GA without the BC (though I don't buy it) it's a LOT better to have BC WITHOUT the GA.  

This is 100% the reason that I hate the argument that Green Arrow and Black Canary are some kind of comic soul mates.  If Dinah Lance has a comic soul mate at all, it's Barbara Gordon.  

[Primal Slayer]

6 hours ago, Starfish35 said:

 

I did find this interesting however:

So BC works as part of the BoP, and of course depending on who you ask, works as a supporting character for GA, but apparently doesn't work as a solo character.  I wonder why.  

Female solo titles are very hard to sell.WW/Batgirl/Batwoman/Harley Quinn/Supergirl/Catwoman are the only regular female solos. Majority being Bat characters. 

[LeighAn]

24 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Female solo titles are very hard to sell.WW/Batgirl/Batwoman/Harley Quinn/Supergirl/Catwoman are the only regular female solos. Majority being Bat characters. 

 Considering the way the write female characters and the fact that the have them running around half naked I'm not surprised they don't sell better. Not to mention that was it the Ms Marvel comic were the writer got bullied off social media and eventually dropped because she dared to have the female protagonist wear a feminist slogan shirt on the cover. Maybe they should try a writing female titles for actual breathing female readers.

[Primal Slayer]

Black Canarys titles were written well along with Storm (xmen). Sadly it is a hard thing to sell since comics is are still male dominated. That and being part of a "family" .

[statsgirl]

Years ago there was some research that looked at TV shows and movies and found that while girls will watch when the protagonist is male or female, boys will watch only when it's male.  Looks like male comic book readers will read only when they're male-oriented and so comic books are male-oriented. And written in a way that turns off women like me.

I wonder if a Princess Leia comic book would have worked.

Wonder Woman was created by a man, but he was a psychologist.  (And also creator of the systolic blood pressure test which was one of the parts of a polygraph,)

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In a 1943 issue of The American Scholar, Marston wrote: "Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

 

[BkWurm1]

8 hours ago, statsgirl said:

In a 1943 issue of The American Scholar, Marston wrote: "Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

 

I know, I know, this was written in 1943, but OMG!!!!  Maybe WOMEN don't want to be JUST a STEREOTYPE.  Because, um, real women aren't any one thing.  And if you are writing a submissive protagonist, how can they even end up being the lead in their own story?  

 

He's not wrong though about some perceiving anything considered female or girly to be a weakness.   Even things as simple as being willing to ask for directions.  Guys are lucky they have GPS now so they don't have to worry about that anymore (though why is it ok to ask a machine but not a person?)

Edited August 19, 2017 by BkWurm1

[tv echo]

DC Comics Month-to Month Sales: May 2017 – One Year Later
July 6, 2017  BY BEAT STAFF 
http://www.comicsbeat.com/__trashed-4/

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It was one year previous, May 2016, when the DCU Rebirth Special dropped, and the following month when Rebirth started in full. Which would make this a good time to take stock and see what sorts of effects Rebirth has had on DCU sales.
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A good way then to make a Before-After comparison of Rebirth is to look at the average sales across the DCU. (Yes, May 2017 has “The Button” influencing sales, but May 2016 had the DCU Rebirth Special doing the same.) Average DCU sales in May 2016 were 29,927, while in May 2017 they were 39,993, a difference of 10K. If we look instead at median sales the comparison is even more favorable: 19,629 in May 2016 and 35,692 in May 2017! By this measure then, Rebirth has had quite a positive impact on sales for the DCU as a whole, even one year later after things have settled down from all the Rebirth hype.
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85, 88 - GREEN ARROW ($2.99)
05/2007: Green Arrow #74 -- 30,751
05/2012: Green Arrow #9  -- 26,966
05/2013: Green Arrow #20 -- 27,541 
05/2014: Green Arrow #31 -- 23,475 
05/2015: --
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05/2016: Green Arrow #52 -- 20,559 (-  2.9%)
06/2016: Rebirth #1      -- 89,936 (+373.0%) [97,243]
06/2016: Green Arrow #1  -- 76,816 (-  4.4%) [92,931]
07/2016: Green Arrow #2  -- 80,134 (- 13.8%)
07/2016: Green Arrow #3  -- 80,150 (+  0.0%)
08/2016: Green Arrow #4  -- 74,335 (-  7.3%)
08/2016: Green Arrow #5  -- 69,530 (-  6.5%)
09/2016: Green Arrow #6  -- 55,330 (- 20.4%)
09/2016: Green Arrow #7  -- 52,794 (-  4.6%)
10/2016: Green Arrow #8  -- 49,904 (-  7.4%)
10/2016: Green Arrow #9  -- 46,606 (-  4.7%)
11/2016: Green Arrow #10 -- 43,355 (-  7.0%)
11/2016: Green Arrow #11 -- 41,576 (-  4.1%)
12/2016: Green Arrow #12 -- 38,515 (-  7.4%)
12/2016: Green Arrow #13 -- 37,365 (-  3.0%)
01/2017: Green Arrow #14 -- 35,733 (-  4.4%)
01/2017: Green Arrow #15 -- 34,590 (-  3.2%)
02/2017: Green Arrow #16 -- 33,371 (-  3.5%)
02/2017: Green Arrow #17 -- 32,392 (-  2.9%)
03/2017: Green Arrow #18 -- 31,838 (-  1.7%)
03/2017: Green Arrow #19 -- 30,984 (-  2.7%)
04/2017: Green Arrow #20 -- 30,216 (-  2.5%)
04/2017: Green Arrow #21 -- 29,993 (-  0.7%)
05/2017: Green Arrow #22 -- 28,931 (-  3.5%)
05/2017: Green Arrow #23 -- 28,291 (-  2.2%)
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6 months: - 32.6%
1 year  : + 39.2%
2 years :    n.a.
5 years : + 6.1%
10 years: - 7.0%

Edited August 20, 2017 by tv echo

[wonderwall]

While I do get that the reboot brought in more sales within the year... To me It makes no sense to compare GA #52 to GA Rebirth #22. Itd make more sense to compare GA Rebirth #22 to GA #22

[lemotomato]

What I got from those numbers is that sales of GA was 9k issues below the DC comics sales average last year, and 11k below the average this year. 

Edited August 20, 2017 by lemotomato

[wonderwall]

18 minutes ago, lemotomato said:

What I got from those numbers is that sales of GA was 9k issues below the DC comics sales average last year, and 11k below the average this year. 

Like... What kind of hoops are they going through in order to make these numbers look good? Lol

[lemotomato]

14 minutes ago, wonderwall said:

Like... What kind of hoops are they going through in order to make these numbers look good? Lol

To be fair, based on sales numbers alone they sold more issues after Rebirth than before. But the sales trend and GA's popularity relative to other DC titles don't seem to have changed much after the reboot. Sooner or later they're going to end up selling 20k issues again. 

Edited August 20, 2017 by lemotomato

[Angel12d]

Those figures makes you wonder if it's even worth the cost of producing GA comics anymore. I suppose it must be in some way but IDK how tbh. Curious. 

[Primal Slayer]

Same way it is worth producing majority of comics. It isn't DCs lowest selling title and they still make money off of all of their comics. They sell roughly 672k issues a year at the moment? That's 2mill a year which is very profitable when you take in each title doing something similar sales wise. And I assume not having the rights become public domain and the money they make off of outsourcing the characters rights which is big $$$.

And they still are able to sell ads in the comics which brings them additional money.

Edited August 21, 2017 by Primal Slayer

[Starfish35]

1 hour ago, Primal Slayer said:

It isn't DCs lowest selling title and they still make money off of all of their comics.

Yeah, according to that article there are several titles getting worse numbers, including Batgirl and the Birds of Prey, which we were talking about earlier in the thread.

[Angel12d]

I didn't read any article so I didn't know (or care) that there are worst selling titles. I was just curious to know if it's really worth it in the long run? And not just with GA comics but ones that don't sell many issues. Once you've paid the artists and writers and everyone that helps make an issue, is it cost effective? I'm guessing it must be on some level because they're not selling much and still continuing but my first thought was why, you know? But then I don't know much about comics so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ComicFan777]

From what I've heard from people at comic con is that you don't make much from the comic book sales itself - it's the merchandising deals (especially video games, movies,...) that brings in the big revenue.

[LolaRuns]

On 18.8.2017 at 6:14 PM, statsgirl said:

Years ago there was some research that looked at TV shows and movies and found that while girls will watch when the protagonist is male or female, boys will watch only when it's male.  Looks like male comic book readers will read only when they're male-oriented and so comic books are male-oriented. And written in a way that turns off women like me.

I wonder if a Princess Leia comic book would have worked.

Wonder Woman was created by a man, but he was a psychologist.  (And also creator of the systolic blood pressure test which was one of the parts of a polygraph,)

In my experience men will consume media with a female lead as long as it is heavily action oriented  (and/or very sexually suggestive). The female starring superhero books might not sell as well as the male starred books, but it is still primarily men who read them, not women.  Personally, I have my doubts that superhero comics are ever going to be a female dominated medium. If you go by the stereotype that men are on average more visual than women (as in: men are percentagewise more likely to watch porn, women are percentagewise more likely to read eroctic novels), then it makes sense that comics might be a medium more useful to men, while for people who are less visually focused, you could just go and read a book. Of course you can still get enjoyment from comics, but it's not as much of a upgrade over a book. 

But yes, because of this effect it was the common wisdom was for a long while, if men are pickier and prefer male starring/will reject show if they appear "too girly", but women don't care, then the logical choice is to make the shows male starring, because that way both men and women will watch it. 

There was a similar logic to black show I believe, where black viewers are more likely to watch a combination of "black" and "white" shows, but white viewers are less likely to watch "black shows". 

BTW, I think it's Birds of Prey, that it exists at all and is fairly popular is an amazing achievement. Even if you have female starring titles, imo they are usually "queen bee" type titles with one core female who is clearly above the others. Yes, by now most writers of female titles do give the female characters female friends and some females in the supporting cast, but Birds of Prey is impressive because it was always about multiple women and hence per default about their relationships. 

Edited August 23, 2017 by LolaRuns

[Balaclava]

http://insidepulse.com/2017/08/25/dc-comics-rebirth-no-rebirth-cancellations-yet/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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First Cyborg, then Deathstroke, plus Aquaman; all went from originally being twice monthly shipping books to monthly books plus a price point rise from $2.99 to $3.99. Green Arrow joins that group in November 2017 which also sees the return of classic character Shado.

So, far no cancellations of any Rebirth series from July 2016 when DC kicked off the initiate with DC Universe Rebirth #1. However, there are persistent signs that Superwoman may be the first book to be cancelled.

[BkWurm1]

Is it that the price went up or are they saying the price went up and GA is going from twice a month to once a month, cause I thought it already was just once a month?

[Morrigan2575]

GA issued 2 books per month. Going to $3.99 per book puts DC at the same rate as Marvel (unless Marvel went up as well).

[Balaclava]

16 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

Is it that the price went up or are they saying the price went up and GA is going from twice a month to once a month, cause I thought it already was just once a month?

Price went up and it's going from twice a month to once a month 

[Trini]

'DC Comics' New Black Canary EP is a Haunting, Moody Love Letter to Dinah Lance'

 

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Speaking with Comicbook, music producer and songwriter Joseph Donovan explained how the newer Black Canary series was always meant to have both visual and audio components and that he wanted to infuse Black Canary’s music with sounds that “otherworldly.”

...

Though Black Canary ended a while back, DC’s releasing a new set of songs tied to the series is an absolutely brilliant move that continues to build out the book’s world for readers new and old. You can check out the full EP for yourself over at Black Canary’s Bandcamp page.

[BkWurm1]

Wait, so these dudes are making original mixed tapes for a cartoon picture of a girl.  Classy! ;)

[tv echo]

This DC Comics Rebirth panel included Benjamin Percy (GA comics writer - I think he's the one on the end in the green t-shirt), but I have no idea who the other guys are on this panel (program schedule just listed "A. Conner, J. Palmiotti, J. Nitz, B. Percy, F. Tieri")...

DragonCon 2017 || EVENT || DC Rebirth (Last 15 Minutes)
Streamed live on Sep. 1, 2017, by nickabenson

-- Fan asked panel how they planned to keep comics readers "enthralled" and get future readers. One panelist (I don't know who, but it wasn't Percy) responded: "You want to have a really depressing answer to it? ... Um, comics is the only entertainment medium that has lost readers in America since the day it started. From 1939 until now, we have lost readers every year consistently. It is on a complete downward trajectory. There has never been an upward trajectory. Never. Ever... But. More people - like I said... I could go to a sorority house and tell every girl in there, you get a free drink if you can tell me who Iron Man's alter ego is, and I would buy a lot of free drinks. Because sorority girls are like, Tony Stark, duh... So the popularity has never been higher. The Q Rating has never been higher. But the comic book sales have never been lower... Now, the good news is, we've found a really good plateau and, uh, because of stuff like Rebirth, comics sales have upticked quite a bit, which again is still down from, you know, 1975 or whatever. But people are into the comics now."

Edited September 2, 2017 by tv echo

[apinknightmare]

7 minutes ago, tv echo said:

More people - like I said... I could go to a sorority house and tell every girl in there, you get a free drink if you can tell me who Iron Man's alter ego is, and I would buy a lot of free drinks. Because sorority girls are like, Tony Stark, duh... So the popularity has never been higher. 

Yuck.

[statsgirl]

The "duh" kind of says it all.

[lemotomato]

His explanation of how he thinks comics sales work and what appeals to potential fans is the reason why comics sales will continue its downward trajectory after the artificial uptick/plateau generated from the reboot peters out. 

[EmilyBettFan]

How demeaning. So gross.

[statsgirl]

4 hours ago, tv echo said:

So the popularity has never been higher. The Q Rating has never been higher. But the comic book sales have never been lower... Now, the good news is, we've found a really good plateau and, uh, because of stuff like Rebirth, comics sales have upticked quite a bit, which again is still down from, you know, 1975 or whatever. But people are into the comics now."

People are into the comics characters because of the movies and the TV shows.  The fact that "the comic book sales have never been lower" indicates people really aren't into the books now.

[tv echo]

[Angel12d]

On 9/2/2017 at 3:21 PM, tv echo said:

More people - like I said... I could go to a sorority house and tell every girl in there, you get a free drink if you can tell me who Iron Man's alter ego is, and I would buy a lot of free drinks. Because sorority girls are like, Tony Stark, duh... So the popularity has never been higher. The Q Rating has never been higher. But the comic book sales have never been lower... Now, the good news is, we've found a really good plateau and, uh, because of stuff like Rebirth, comics sales have upticked quite a bit, which again is still down from, you know, 1975 or whatever. But people are into the comics now."

This reminds me of those guys who see a woman wearing a t-shirt with a comic book character on it and they have to question them just to see if they're allowed to wear it. Like, "I'll give you my male approval to you wearing that if you can answer this correctly." What a gross little man. (I actually had an experience once where I was wearing a Joy Division shirt & this guy asked me to name their songs just to test me. Not so much a comic book character but it's the same situation. Ugh.)

And I actually think lot of people are into comic characters now because of the movies and TV shows. The only reason I even know GA and BC now is because of the show; I'd never heard of them before. The only reason I grew up knowing about Batman, Superman, Lois Lane and Supergirl was because of the movies in the late 70s and 80s and then the Lois and Clark show from the 90s. I know Wonder Woman because of the 70s TV show. It still didn't make me buy comics though. 

Edited September 3, 2017 by Angel12d

[tv echo]

This article was retweeted by MG (it's an interesting b-t-s look at comics colorists and letterers, article doesn't mention GA comics but I wasn't sure what other thread to post it in)...

The Invisible Artists Behind Your Favorite Comics
ASHER ELBEIN  AUG 15, 2017  
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/the-invisible-artists-behind-your-favorite-comics/535497/

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Though they rarely get the acclaim of superstar artists and writers, colorists and letterers are the secret sauce behind most comic-book storytelling. Colorists are the cinematographers of graphic narrative, laying hues over art to control mood and style; letterers are the sound designers, crafting fonts, effects, and speech balloons to bring noise to a silent medium. Both often operate behind the scenes. But as comics gain more mainstream attention, many in both fields are pushing for greater recognition of their contributions.  
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Like many other creators in the comics industry these days, colorists and letterers are freelancers, moving between projects and publishers as money and oppurtunities dictate. Colorists and other creators typically sign a generic work-for-hire contract, which covers all the work they do for the publisher. (Contracts tying a colorist exclusively to a publisher will often have a timeline or number of issues spelled out, and stipulate what kind of side-work for other publishers is acceptable. According to Bellaire, typical page rates can run anywhere from $25 to $200 per page, depending on how senior you are in the industry. For letterers, it’s sometimes a different story—Caramagna and Cowles both work for Virtual Calligraphy, a lettering studio that is under contract to Marvel and thus provides relatively steady work.
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Compensation and royalties can still be shaky, however. DC Comics added colorists to their royalty program a few years ago, Wilson said, but such steps forward have been accompanied by rates at other companies declining even as issue sales stay steady. Then there’s the occasional neglect colorists and letterers face from the editorial arms of the publishers, especially compared to writers....

[tv echo]

August numbers were just released...

August 2017 Comic Book Sales to Comics Shops
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2017/2017-08.html

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83          112          Green Arrow    28       $2.99    DC        26,572
84          113          Green Arrow    29       $2.99    DC        26,455

ETA: For comparison, July 2017 comic book sales...

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80         107          Green Arrow    26         $2.99    DC        27,285
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83         110          Green Arrow    27         $2.99    DC        26,715

Edited September 12, 2017 by tv echo

[tv echo]

[tv echo]

[tv echo]

I watched this entire video of Geoff Johns' SDCC panel (from July 20, 2017), but I couldn't tell you everything he said (blah, blah, blah, the Flash was the first superhero that he identified with, blah, blah, blah, he's a DC guy, not a Marvel guy, blah, blah, blah, he wanted to write something that would make people cry when Wally West is finally pulled out of the Speed Force, blah, blah, blah). However, I did note that GJ talked a lot about writing emotional scenes for DC comics and really emphasized the importance of relationships...

-- GJ said that, in doing Rebirth, he wanted to bring back what was lost with New 52, which was to bring back the past, the characters, and "the real warmth and the heart, and that comes from relationships, you know, from the relationships of the characters." 

-- GJ: "I wanted to see Oliver Queen and Dinah Lance having their adventures, but something was missing. Like, they didn't know each other. Their love wasn't there. They could feel it. And you would see - I like seeing the - you know, the contrast between Dinah Lance in kind of a rundown place and Oliver Queen has a penthouse. And then, at night, just wondering, why don't I feel complete? You know. What's bothering me? And so, everything in there was emotional. Every aspect, every page, was emotional."

SDCC 2017 Geoff Johns Spotlight Panel
Published on Sep 19, 2017, by Emerald City Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=498W07ZKY_4

Edited September 20, 2017 by tv echo

[tv echo]

EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: ARROW #32 CONCLUDES DARK NIGHTS: METAL 'GOTHAM RESISTANCE' TIE-IN
Aaron Sagers   Oct. 2, 2017
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-preview-arrow-32-concludes-dark-nights-metal-gotham-resistance-tie-in?sf118805756=1

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Gotham City has become a realm of chaos, magic, and twisted science, but the Gotham Resistance is forging a path to sanity -- at least, we hope that will be the case in Arrow #32, the conclusion to the Dark Nights: Metal tie-in.

Available this Wednesday, the comic finds the The Gotham Resistance marching into the hellish world of The Batman Who Laughs in an effort to discover the secret to vanquishing the hordes of the Dark Multiverse. But while Nightwing, Robin, and Harley Quinn are part of the action, this is a Green Arrow title, after all, which means GA and Black Canary are going to have to contend with some drama. In the issue, the romantic duo has a crazy showdown, and a lovers' quarrel that goes medieval.

 

Edited October 4, 2017 by tv echo

[BkWurm1]

2 hours ago, tv echo said:

this is a Green Arrow title, after all, which means GA and Black Canary are going to have to contend with some drama. In the issue, the romantic duo has a crazy showdown, and a lovers' quarrel that goes medieval.

But romantic drama is icky!

[LeighAn]

#dinahandfriends #ruiningtheshow #GreenErrow 

[Lily-n11]

I've got questions.    1. His hair. Did he borrow BC's wig?      2. How does it work like this with the hood up?

[Primal Slayer]

1 hour ago, Lily-n11 said:

I've got questions.    1. His hair. Did he borrow BC's wig?      2. How does it work like this with the hood up?

 Is that supposed to b hair?

[Lily-n11]

If it's not hair, what is it then?