The Spoiler Collection

[Anna Yolei]

54 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Quinn’s newest plan involves Bill.

I don't even know what this mean but I already hate it

[nilyank]

25 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

I don't even know what this mean but I already hate it

Probably to encourage Bill to go after Brooke or make it seem like it to Ridge.

[CountryGirl]

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for the week of August 24:  https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Monday August 24:

Zoe and Carter’s attraction heats up.

Ridge and Brooke encounter an obstacle to reconciliation. His stupidity? Shauna?

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday August 25:

Quinn justifies her actions as she tells Shauna that Brooke deserves what’s coming. Fuck off, Quinn!

Brooke awaits Ridge wearing lingerie. What? Why? Again?

Bill hits the bottle. If I had to be saddled with Lemonheads Katie, I'd drink, too.

Ridge struggles to face his new reality. Poor Widge. 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday August 26:

Quinn presses Bill for the truth about what happened between him and Brooke. NOYFB!

When Ridge doesn’t return home, Brooke goes looking for him at the Forrester mansion.

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Thursday August 27:

Katie’s left shocked when she overhears the end of Bill and Quinn’s explosive exchange. Hopefully it's that Bill admits he's still very much in love with Brooke.

Confirmed! Courtney Hope joins Young & Restless in mystery role. 💓

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Friday August 28:

A decades-long love affair comes to an end with a tragic goodbye. Does Ridge go off into the sunset? We can only hope.

Brooke and Shauna square off. Clean her clock, Brooke!

Also coming up on Bold and Beautiful:

Quinn’s new plan to keep Brooke and Ridge apart involves Bill.

Ridge stumbles upon a private conversation and hears Brooke confess her love for Bill. I'm okay with that.

Carter lets Zoe know he’s interested in her and she’s thrilled when he asks her out. I could not care less about these two. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Carter lets Zoe know he’s interested in her and she’s thrilled when he asks her out. I could not care less about these two. 

Ditto. Carter is like a walking, talking mannequin to me and his being the resident lawyer for these wealthy, powerful families is my idea of a bad joke. The  speculation around some parts is that Brad is mainly putting Carter and Zoe together now because it's his way of giving a nod to the BLM movement. It's a largely a virtue signalling stunt. Allegedly.

[Anna Yolei]

On 8/21/2020 at 9:22 AM, CountryGirl said:

A decades-long love affair comes to an end with a tragic goodbye. Does Ridge go off into the sunset? We can only hope

Preferably, he takes a long walk off of a short pier and put him outta all of our misery permanently.

[CountryGirl]

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for week of September 21: https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Monday September 21:

Thomas and Hope’s relationship heads down a new path. What relationship?

Liam finds Steffy unconscious and acts quickly. Captain Save-a-Ho to the rescue again.

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday September 22:

Hope reacts to Thomas’ talk about Liam and Steffy. Oh, I'm sure he'll talk about Liam racing to save Steffy because he's still in wuv with her. 

Steffy goes ballistic on Liam. Must be time for another pill?

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday September 23:

Hope confides in Brooke about her frustration with Liam when it comes to Steffy. You know you have other options, here, hmm, Hope?

Hope and Liam are accused of kidnapping by Steffy. I've been waiting for this one. Which again, will be as rich as Midas.

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Thursday September 24:

Ridge rushes to his daughter after a conversation with Thomas.

Steffy takes aim at Brooke. WTAF does Brooke have to do with this? Oh, wait, she's a Logan.

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Friday September 25:

Thomas makes amends with Zoe. Oh...kay.

Steffy makes a dangerous move. 

 

Also coming up on B&B:

Thomas and Hope forge ahead with co-parenting Douglas. So is Thope in our future after all?

Liam reaches a difficult decision about his family’s future.

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for week of September 28:

Steffy spirals further into her dependency on painkillers.

An intervention is staged by Finn, Ridge, and Liam.

Ridge has devastating news for Brooke. Presumably he's staying with Shauna.

First airdate! Delon De Metz joins Bold and Beautiful as Zzzzende Forrester. We care, why, exactly?

Fall Previews for B&B:

According to SOD, Carter receives a promotion and finds happiness dating Zoe, but Zende’s return catches her attention and may prove to be a challenge for Carter. A new character, currently being cast, will also figure into the mix. Zoe's sister, of course. And see I hate this - I should be thrilled to have a quadrangle featuring POC front and center but it's this show and they will find a dozen ways to fuck this up.

Thomas is working with Hope, which will stoke the fires of his desire for her again. Whether it’s healthy desire or more trouble remains to be seen. Seriously? "Healthy" doesn't belong in the same sentence as Thomas. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Hope and Liam are accused of kidnapping by Steffy. I've been waiting for this one. Which again, will be as rich as Midas.

I'm surprised it took this long. Hasn't Kelly been at the cabin like a week now? If the situation were reversed and Steffy had Beth, Hope and Brooke would've called in the FBI four days ago.

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Thomas makes amends with Zoe. Oh...kay.

Zoe, you in danger, girl. Nah, I guess this means when Carter and Zoe get married, Carter can ask Thomas to be his best man. Carter will conduct the ceremony himself though since that's his job too.

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First airdate! Delon De Metz joins Bold and Beautiful as Zzzzende Forrester. We care, why, exactly?

Does Zende's return mean he and Nicole have broken up? Wow, Maya and Nicole are 0-2 on Avant women maintaining marriages to Forrester men.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Joimiaroxeu

[Anna Yolei]

9 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

First airdate! Delon De Metz joins Bold and Beautiful as Zzzzende Forrester. We care, why, exactly?

Divorced from Nicole, I'm assuming? And ready to join the melee for Zoe?

Why, indeed.

9 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

According to SOD, Carter receives a promotion and finds happiness dating Zoe, but Zende’s return catches her attention and may prove to be a challenge for Carter. A new character, currently being cast, will also figure into the mix. Zoe's sister, of course. And see I hate this - I should be thrilled to have a quadrangle featuring POC front and center but it's this show and they will find a dozen ways to fuck this up.

Of course they will. They'll do the same shit they always do  of extremely shittier-than-usual writing that will make us want to throttle all of them and they'll all be off the show by this time next year.

Zzzzzzz.

Next.

9 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Seriously? "Healthy" doesn't belong in the same sentence as Thomas. 

Understatement of the year. There were maybe 6 months in 2004 where I could say Thomas was not insane in the membrane and he seemed to have learned  something from Sally, but boy did B&B go full Danaerys on him after MA was cast. 😐

Edited September 21, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[CountryGirl]

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Week of September 28: https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/

 

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Monday September 28:

• Liam discloses the news of Steffy’s hidden addiction to Finn.
• Steffy’s addiction, denial, and anguish become palpable.
• Are Steffy, Liam and Hope headed for a custody battle over little Kelly? Signs point to… yes!

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday September 29:

• Hope comforts Thomas as he worries about his sister’s illness.
• Ridge, Liam, and Finn form a united front in a struggle to save Steffy.

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday September 30:

• Quinn pushes Ridge to re-marry Shauna in an attempt to cancel Brooke.
• Brooke is tormented when Ridge informs her of his impending nuptials.

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Thursday October 1:

• Carter’s exemplary service at Forrester Creations gets him a well-deserved promotion.
• Eric attempts to talk sense into Ridge before he makes a great mistake.

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 2:

• Ridge and Shauna’s wedding day is filled with bombshells, twists, and turns that no one sees coming.
• A mysterious person holds the fate of many in their hands.

Also coming up on B&B:

• Steffy spirals further into her dependency on painkillers.
• An intervention is staged by Finn, Ridge, and Liam.
• Ridge has devastating news for Brooke.

 

[nilyank]

31 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday September 29:

• Hope comforts Thomas as he worries about his sister’s illness.
• Ridge, Liam, and Finn form a united front in a struggle to save Steffy.

And right there is another reason why Thomas is behind Steffy's addiction. To get closer to Hope. Notice how he is not involved in the intervention.

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Carter’s exemplary service at Forrester Creations gets him a well-deserved promotion.

?????

.....he's a lawyer who couldn't tell an adoption was fucked up and only exists to do weddings. What possible promotion would he be in line for?

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Bold and Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 2:

• Ridge and Shauna’s wedding day is filled with bombshells, twists, and turns that no one sees coming.
• A mysterious person holds the fate of many in their hands.

I forgot all about Shidge this week, to be honest.

[CountryGirl]

From Twitter:

Week of 10/5:

Shocking information is revealed at Ridge and Shauna’s wedding. The shaquinnigans are finally outed, I presume.

Zende returns to Los Angeles. Who cares?

Karma comes for Quinn. About effin' time!

[CountryGirl]

Promo for this week:

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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 .....he's a lawyer who couldn't tell an adoption was fucked up and only exists to do weddings. What possible promotion would he be in line for?

Right? I'm still wondering how he hasn't been disbarred. Whatever, I bet the promotion is one of those deals where you get a fancy, longer title, and maybe just enough of a salary increase to cover your Monday morning stop at Starbucks.

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A mysterious person holds the fate of many in their hands.

I knew Zende was coming back and would be played by a new actor but hadn't heard about another new hire. This mysterious person wouldn't be Zende would it? What's mysterious about him?

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Karma comes for Quinn. About effin' time!

Yes! Now it'll just be a question of who gets Eric, Donna or Katie. I'd vote for Donna.

[CountryGirl]

I'm thinking the mysterious person is Zoe's sister.

[Anna Yolei]

11 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

knew Zende was coming back and would be played by a new actor but hadn't heard about another new hire. This mysterious person wouldn't be Zende would it? What's mysterious about him?

This blurb could also be eluding to whatever Thomas is trying to do with Steffy, since that would also have ramifications for a huge part of the cast.

If this is Zende...who cares. The guy was basically a watered down version of Liam.

6 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

I'm thinking the mysterious person is Zoe's sister.

Oh, right. That also tracks.

Still don't care.

Edited September 28, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[bannana]

18 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Quinn pushes Ridge to re-marry Shauna in an attempt to cancel Brooke.

So in the middle of Steffy spiralling out of control, Ridge decides it is a good time to have a wedding?

[CountryGirl]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

So in the middle of Steffy spiralling out of control, Ridge decides it is a good time to have a wedding?

It's Ridge. The only person he truly loves is...Ridge.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

So in the middle of Steffy spiralling out of control, Ridge decides it is a good time to have a wedding?

You're talking about the guy who inseminated his ex the old fashioned way because of an email he got from Taylor and IIRC he didn't  to even attempt to call her first. 

I can absolutely see him choosing to go through his revenge wedding to Shauna because sticking it to Brooke is more important that taking care of his kid. 😐

[methodwriter85]

On 9/20/2020 at 10:11 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Understatement of the year. There were maybe 6 months in 2004 where I could say Thomas was not insane in the membrane and he seemed to have learned  something from Sally, but boy did B&B go full Danaerys on him after MA was cast. 

😐

Didn't they try to make him sane during the Pierson Fode era? Though it looks like after they cast Matthew, they decided to make him the male version of Sheila. 

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by methodwriter85

[Anna Yolei]

15 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Didn't they try to make him sane during the Pierson Fode era? Though it looks like after they cast Matthew, they decided to make him the male version of Sheila. 

They did, but that was after spending the better part of a year obsessed over a woman he couldn't give two shits about now that she's six feet under and they're retconned Hope to be his true love this whole time. I wanted Thomas gone after The Misunderstanding but his attitude shift with Sasha and the Sally made me hopeful he'd be a force for good. Boy, how wrong I was.

[CountryGirl]

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Week of October 5: (https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/579628/bold-beautiful-spoilers-october-5-through-9-2020/)

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Monday October 5:

• Brooke battles with Quinn on Ridge and Shauna’s wedding day.
• An unexpected source shares shocking information that changes the course of destiny. Katie...she was unexpected, in terms of harnessing her eavesdropping and busybody habits for good

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday October 6:

• Shauna wages war with her conscience as she prepares to become Mrs. Ridge Forrester.
• Unsuccessful in stopping the wedding, Brooke returns home to find an over the top surprise.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday October 7:

• Talented fashion designer Zende Forrester Dominquez arrives from Paris as Delon De Metz joins Bold & Beautiful. ZZZZendeee
• Unbeknownst to Quinn, Eric is within earshot of her revealing video-chat with Shauna. Ha ha, bitches!

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday October 8:

• Quinn becomes frantic as her world crumbles down around her. See above - ha, ha, bitch!
• Carter delivers startling information to Ridge and Brooke.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 9:

• Quinn’s hatred for Brooke backfires. Don't fuck with Brooke, Quinn. The Golden Cooter will not be denied.
• Zoe makes her presence known by modeling a sexy Forrester Creations original. Ummm...what does this even mean?

Also coming up on Bold & Beautiful:

• Shocking information comes to light at Shauna and Ridge’s wedding.
• Quinn’s plan to destroy Brooke takes an unexpected turn as karma comes for her. That's right, baby!
• The bond of true love remains triumphant. Gag though re another GarBridge reunion. The only investment I have is seeing Quinn and Shauna get their comeuppance. I could not care less about Ridge and Brooke having reconciliation #554. 

[Gam2]

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Week of October 5: (https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/579628/bold-beautiful-spoilers-october-5-through-9-2020/)

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Monday October 5:

• Brooke battles with Quinn on Ridge and Shauna’s wedding day.
• An unexpected source shares shocking information that changes the course of destiny. Katie...she was unexpected, in terms of harnessing her eavesdropping and busybody habits for good

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday October 6:

• Shauna wages war with her conscience as she prepares to become Mrs. Ridge Forrester.
• Unsuccessful in stopping the wedding, Brooke returns home to find an over the top surprise.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday October 7:

• Talented fashion designer Zende Forrester Dominquez arrives from Paris as Delon De Metz joins Bold & Beautiful. ZZZZendeee
• Unbeknownst to Quinn, Eric is within earshot of her revealing video-chat with Shauna. Ha ha, bitches!

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday October 8:

• Quinn becomes frantic as her world crumbles down around her. See above - ha, ha, bitch!
• Carter delivers startling information to Ridge and Brooke.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 9:

• Quinn’s hatred for Brooke backfires. Don't fuck with Brooke, Quinn. The Golden Cooter will not be denied.
• Zoe makes her presence known by modeling a sexy Forrester Creations original. Ummm...what does this even mean?

Also coming up on Bold & Beautiful:

• Shocking information comes to light at Shauna and Ridge’s wedding.
• Quinn’s plan to destroy Brooke takes an unexpected turn as karma comes for her. That's right, baby!
• The bond of true love remains triumphant. Gag though re another GarBridge reunion. The only investment I have is seeing Quinn and Shauna get their comeuppance. I could not care less about Ridge and Brooke having reconciliation #554. 

Really, B&B? Who the hell cares anymore? 

[Anna Yolei]

On 10/2/2020 at 3:55 PM, Gam2 said:

Really, B&B? Who the hell cares anymore? 

Seriously. Brooke has played ball with Hall of Famers Stephanie and Taylor. Compared with them, Quinn and Shauna are 5 year olds playing T-ball. GTFO.🤣

Of course, like everyone else here, I couldn't give a rat's ass about GarBridge. I'm just here to see Quinn suffer a whole consequence for once in her sorry existance.

[TobinAlbers]

On 10/2/2020 at 3:07 PM, CountryGirl said:

• Quinn becomes frantic as her world crumbles down around her. See above - ha, ha, bitch!

Okay, so... I'll admit this much - when Quinn was pulling her crap with Liam other than Wyatt she really didn't have 'anything to lose' so just sending her off and away wouldn't give her a comeuppance. She needed to set down some roots and now that she's gotten her butt grooves into the couch at the mansion just right and has her portrait over the fireplace, she's got a much higher place to fall.

But I hate that it's over her running interference in Brooke/Ridge's 40 year old love life rather than oh, I dunno, kidnapping a man, withholding medical treatment from him, and then sexually assaulting him. Offscreen when the crap his the fan for Quinn, Liam should be shaking his head thinking 'You're still getting off too easy.'

LOL at this show trying to make Zoe/Zende/Carter happen. You had a beautiful black family on the show that connected to the core family via Rick and Zende and then let it die on the vine. Why get invested in this group when we know they're just as disposable?

 

[Gam2]

I liked Quinn’s dress on her for the color and fit. I did not like Flo’s dress for the fit(?) and color. What the hell was Zoe wearing? To a wedding. At Eric’s house. With Carter as her date. 

[bannana]

12 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Offscreen when the crap his the fan for Quinn, Liam should be shaking his head thinking 'You're still getting off too easy.'

But didn't Liam choose to not have her charged? I mean, she kidnapped him at the very least, and then we can get into not getting him medical attention, and oh, rape.  She should def be in jail right now. Not to mention the attempted murder of Deacon. Liam chose to let her go.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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But didn't Liam choose to not have her charged?

He did but only after Justin convinced him that it would be waste of time (i.e., the judicial system tends not to want to view men as victims when their rapist is a woman) and extremely embarrassing to him and his family. I get that the show didn't want to spend money filming a trial but to let her just get away with it was unbelievable to me. And then to "reward" her by having Eric marry her and make her the stupid Forrester matriarch? GMAFB. Plus, I'll never forgive Justin for talking Liam out of pressing charges.

[TobinAlbers]

42 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

He did but only after Justin convinced him that it would be waste of time (i.e., the judicial system tends not to want to view men as victims when their rapist is a woman) and extremely embarrassing to him and his family. I get that the show didn't want to spend money filming a trial but to let her just get away with it was unbelievable to me. And then to "reward" her by having Eric marry her and make her the stupid Forrester matriarch? GMAFB. Plus, I'll never forgive Justin for talking Liam out of pressing charges.

It was the height of irresponsibility for the show to not call a spade a spade and for them to allow a rape victim to be shamed, bullied by the accused's legal team, told they wanted it by several characters, said that because they knew each other that it couldn't have been forced (even thought Liam at the time had amnesia and his memory loss exacerbated by Quinn's gaslighting), and made to feel that the crime committed against *them* would be the cause of great embarrassment to their family. Literally everything a female rape victim has been told and fight against for justice, they put on full display in respect to Captive Cabin to cover the show's ass and justify keeping Quinn onscreen. This is one of those things that just really pisses me off as CBS had also let Y&R do the same crap with Daniel only in that case it was even worse that he ended up fathering a child. Thank goodness we never went there but the fact that it doesn't even come up as a crime against Quinn but only as a joke to needle Liam about that he 'nailed Wyatt's mom' really blows.  Liam was told to bury that shit and just move on and has had to endure Quinn in the periphery of his life since then. It's appalling.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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This is one of those things that just really pisses me off as CBS had also let Y&R do the same crap with Daniel only in that case it was even worse that he ended up fathering a child.

And they had Phyllis repeatedly insisting to him that he had to "step up" and take care of the baby that was foisted upon him by his rapist. Like he'd be a deadbeat if he didn't. Would YR have tried to pull that sh!t if the genders had been reversed? I doubt it because the outcry would've been huge I think. Has any soap dared do a story where a male rapist has sued for custody of the child created by his crime? (I know this has happened IRL though. The Handmaid's Tale is almost an agenda in some corners of the world.)

If the soap opera audience is predominately women/girls I don't understand how soaps get away with presenting these storylines that are so negative on women. And I imagine B&B is one of the worst in that regard.

[Anna Yolei]

11 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

If the soap opera audience is predominately women/girls I don't understand how soaps get away with presenting these storylines that are so negative on women.

Because the writers are all straight men 🤷‍♀️

IIRC, the pioneers of the genre were women, but like the Beatles and with Star Trek (no seriously, women Kirk/Spock slash fans are a HUGE reason why the series didn't die in the 70s) men jumped onboard once there were big bucks to be made.

With Bell specifically, there's also the fact that he has job security, unlike everyone else in the industry. Thanks to the huge overseas audience, the series could easily survive  a transition online. He has no incentive to change a damn thing, not even the most superficial issues that Y&R addresses immediately after cleaning house (ie, firing Steve Burton, ending the national nightmare that was Philly, giving Sharon the first ounce of autonomy since 1996 to have a personality beyond being Mrs ___ Newman). 

I've said many times I believe an appetite for soaps exist, especially with how newer fans enjoyed the older stories that were rerun this past spring. But it's gonna need to take new form and be relevant to current audiences. No one does love triangles IRL longer than maybe 3 months without someone choosing to walk away or making a decision. Not all people are heterosexual. I don't think I need to elaborate on baby switches and child loss after the past year of misery.

[CountryGirl]

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for week of October 12: (from https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/)

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Monday October 12:

• Liam’s overt disdain for Finn becomes obvious.
• Thomas silently seethes when Hope offers Zende something he wants.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday October 13

• At Finn’s urging, Steffy seizes an opportunity to give back while in recovery.
• Moved by Zoe’s honesty about her past, Zende carefully questions her about Carter.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday October 14:

• Liam injects himself in the situation after learning of Finn’s amazing gift to Steffy.
• Thomas feels pressure from Zende’s unexpected arrival while Carter plans a surprise for Zoe.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday October 15:

• Finn takes control of the situation with Liam, marking the beginning of an epic rivalry.
• Carter and Zoe have a tender and authentic conversation about their romantic future.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 16:

• Steffy stands up for herself when Liam makes a demand regarding Finn.
• Liam is stunned when Hope calls him out on his over-protectiveness with Steffy.

[Anna Yolei]

12 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Steffy stands up for herself when Liam makes a demand regarding Finn.

Good for her. I still maintain she destroyed what very thin foundation they had fair and square ages ago, but Liam made his choice and hasn't looked back much in the last three yrs. I hope Hope tosses him out on his ass when he starts that mewling about Steffy's life again, and that Steffy has better sense not to let him crash on her couch this time.

12 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Liam is stunned when Hope calls him out on his over-protectiveness with Steffy.

Good for her too. Bad Ienough she wasted her entire youth on this putz but after the year of Hell they had and fought back.against, if he's STILL doing this bullshit...girl, bye 😒

NGL, for all that baby switch story got me finally on board the Lope train, I will jump my ass right back off if Show resets their relationship back to where it was in 2011. I wasn't buying it back then when Liam an idiot 20-something with a hard dick and no one to stick it in, but if doesn't know his own mind by now, he never will. Hope would better off cutting her losses now before Lope becomes the new GarBridge.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[methodwriter85]

On 10/6/2020 at 11:03 PM, Anna Yolei said:

Because the writers are all straight men 🤷‍♀️

IIRC, the pioneers of the genre were women, but like the Beatles and with Star Trek (no seriously, women Kirk/Spock slash fans are a HUGE reason why the series didn't die in the 70s) men jumped onboard once there were big bucks to be made.

I've said many times I believe an appetite for soaps exist, especially with how newer fans enjoyed the older stories that were rerun this past spring. But it's gonna need to take new form and be relevant to current audiences.

I feel like I keep bleating about this, but I wish this show would sit down with actual fashion students as well as study what fashion actually looks like now. It's a show about the Los Angeles fashion industry and everyone is dressed like they shopped at 1999 Banana Republic, especially the men. I get they can't afford actual couture, but again, they could consult with current fashion school students. Hell, just look at the plethora of Los Angeles instagram influencers. I think the lack of imagination here is directly a result of this show being run by straight men over 50.

Edited October 13, 2020 by methodwriter85

[Anna Yolei]

19 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

I feel like I keep bleating about this, but I wish this show would sit down with actual fashion students as well as study what fashion actually looks like now. It's a show about the Los Angeles fashion industry and everyone is dressed like they shopped at 1999 Banana Republic, especially the men. I get they can't afford actual couture, but again, they could consult with current fashion school students. Hell, just look at the plethora of Los Angeles instagram influencers. I think the lack of imagination here is directly a result of this show being run by straight men over 50.

I live in San Diego and I see cosplayers that can throw down elaborate designs, and probably for way less than some of the "high end" frocks being passed off for culture here.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely that anyone will stay in long enough to make an impact on this from as B&B's writers room is a notorious revolving door. I read it a while ago, but had something to do with the pay scale and/or the limited contracts.

Siiiiiiiigh.......

[Joimiaroxeu]

When bad Photoshop happens:

Is B&B/CBS really serious about this? I do want to see Steffy move on from her losing obsession with Liam but I'm not sure Finn is the guy to help her do that. Something just seems off about him to me.

[Anna Yolei]

Yep, appears they are.  I wanna like him on principle of the last torturous ten years, but they make it so hard. Just like when Wyatt first appeared and began demanding Bill to give him shit without any attempt at a relationship that grated on my nerves.

I'm trying not to get too invested cuz I've seen the pattern on how Brooke and Taylor's love interests got nuked on a whim to start up that nonsense with Ridge and Finn might be gone in six months either way.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[MsTree]

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I do want to see Steffy move on from her losing obsession with Liam but I'm not sure Finn is the guy to help her do that. Something just seems off about him to me.

I hear what you're saying, but I wonder if it's due to all the covid restrictions (i.e. social distancing, working with a mannequin, etc.). I would imagine without a proper face-to-face dialog, it can't be easy to truly emote.

[nkotb]

I know that I'm probably getting excited over something that will turn out to be nothing, but for the very first time, I feel like there's an actual love interest, to rival Liam. Wyatt was too connected to Liam to be a true love interest for either Steffy or Hope, but Finn is not a Spencer, yet, & he's a doctor, Steffy seems into him, I honestly don't even care if he turns dark, I feel like this is something we've been waiting for. I have, at least.

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

Finn is not a Spencer, yet,

Ha!

1 hour ago, nkotb said:

I honestly don't even care if he turns dark, I feel like this is something we've been waiting for.

I don't disagree, but as with everything else on Show, they want to take the most absolutely stupid route going about it.

Still, you're right. Liam's never had a proper rival. Wyatt was always the clear consolation prize, that one week Thomas and Hope dated ended with Hope and Liam running into one another's arms in Cabo and Steffy...hasn't been with a non Spencer since Rick.

I welcome this, but Finn better stop using people's kids. 😐

[TobinAlbers]

Liam eventually gets his head out of his a&^ - Thank goodness. Full article thread in the link, but relevant info below:

I know Liam has his haters and has rightfully earned a lot of hate, but in this instance of his issue with Finn I think they stacked the deck too firmly for the anti-Liam contingent where he he isn't wrong in some key concerns that he has with Steffy's relationship with Finn (he's her doctor, her friend, her medical consultant, her boyfriend) and who this guy will be for Kelly. Under normal circumstances no one who is fresh out of rehab is advised to get involved in a relationship. And Steffy's gaga words of gushing praise at her 'savior' doesn't speak healthy to me - she's transferred her white knight obsession from Liam to Finn.  And don't get me wrong, I want Steffy to move on and have a new love but a) they're really letting her shit on Liam and letting Finn shit on the father of her kid and it feels like a play to the anti-Liam haters when frankly, Liam has been shit on by plenty of people over the years. When is enough enough?  b) I hate the whole set-up of Sinn's origins. Now if they're hot enough, I'll get over it, and maybe once I see them away from the hovering interference of Liam and see them as a couple and imagine her not being a recovering addict that he once treated, I'll see a couple worth rooting for.

[Anna Yolei]

22 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

they're really letting her shit on Liam and letting Finn shit on the father of her kid and it feels like a play to the anti-Liam haters when frankly, Liam has been shit on by plenty of people over the years. When is enough enough?

When he actually stops waffling for good?

I get where you're coming from--Liam is far from the worst person on this show and his core is more decent than most--but it drives me up a wall that they even had to touch on this this at all. It's close to the same issue I have with Brooke--not completely heinous and doesn't intentionally set out to hurt people, but she never effing learns.

And even for the pissing he gets, has he truly ever apologized for all of that shit? "Not being the worse" is barely a winning strategy for things with much higher stakes. But mostly, I think this recent backlash is because we've gotten over ten YEARS of this and no one wants backslide to where they were in 2011. 

All that said, I think I speak for everyone when I say as little as I trust Liam's motives, I trust Brat Bell even less. As soon as Finn gets popular and we warm up but, Lucy will pull the football up from Charlie Brown's foot and Steffy with wake up in love with Liam one morning once he gets bored. 

And just think: we'll get to see this all over again in 2030 when the Eggo Minis grow up! 

[TobinAlbers]

1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:

Steffy with wake up in love with Liam one morning once he gets bored. 

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I don’t think Steffy will go back to Liam. I think the drug addiction storyline and Finn are the transitioning for her character to truly let Liam go. They’ll end up as friends in the end but she’ll be truly over him and not want to go backwards but forwards. And given all the stuff she said to him - drugs talking or not- he now knows how she truly feels. Between that and her having cheated on him with Bill and Hope’s laying it out for him how she too hates his behavior I think it’s enough to finally have Liam also take a look at his actions and move on as well. 

If there is one guy Steffy will go back to, I think it’s Bill in the end. Finn I don’t think would go evil, I can see him being killed off after she’s pregnant with twins. 😂

 

[Anna Yolei]

4 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I don’t think Steffy will go back to Liam.

You'd think so, and I certainly hope that's the case, but I also remember this same guy pulled the rug outta Brooke and Thorne with no warning either. 

I hope to God my jadedness is misplaced and that Brad Bell is actually hearing the fans on this one. Even for all the ugly bullshit Steffy pulled back in the day, even she deserves to be someone's first choice and have a true shot at happiness that didn't begin with stepping over someone else. Even apart from Liam, her relationships have been pretty sketch between dating Rick before Phoebe was even buried, chasing after happily married Owen, throwing herself at Bill and trying to take Oliver from Hope because reasons.

And fuckin' A, Liam *needs* to hear it from Hope how absolutely insulting and disrespectful it is. Because usually the people who drag him are those with their own agendas like Quinn and Tomass or people like Ridge which....fuck no. And yeah, I make no bones about the fact that Hope circa 2011-14 was an absolute pill with her ridgid ideals but he did *not* make it easy when he was entertaining Steffy's "friendship". And it's not about them anymore, but the kids. Would he want his daughters being divided over a guy like him? Would he want Douglas to be that kind of man?

Mostly, Liam needs to have his own thing besides the women he bounced between. What about a foundation for technological innovation or ethical production of clothing? I legit don't know what his job is anymore haha.

4 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

If there is one guy Steffy will go back to, I think it’s Bill in the end

Agreed. I'll gladly take that than another visit with Brill or Batie.

Dunno how she ever settled on Liam after getting a taste of that beefcake. Couldn't be me, LMAO.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[TobinAlbers]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I hope to God my jadedness is misplaced and that Brad Bell is actually hearing the fans on this one.

I get your jadedness (See, Maya Avant is B&B's Erica Kane) but the show has been advertising, pushing, selling, featuring the HELL out of Sinn. They got featured on Entertainment Tonight, the B&B Twitter and IG handles are all about highlighting Sinn scenes and setting up Liam as the interloper/heavy, pushing social creative featuring them, and gave them an IG Q&A last week. Brad seems  quite invested in them as the IT couple and giving the fans what they want - Steffy moving on, treating Liam like shit, and Liam looking like an asshole. Like I said, if anything breaks them up it'll be Finn dying heroically.

Liam does need Hope taking him to task over his issues with Finn and Steffy, but I hope when the time comes and he ask WTF is she listening to Thomas and letting him insinuate himself in their lives again that he's not dismissed and she respects what HE has to say.

Thing is, I could stand behind Hope's angle of Liam disrespecting Steffy's choices if Steffy hadn't recently become addicted to pills, been passed out with her daughter in the other room, and pull a switchblade on him. Her choices of late HAVE been sketchy and Finn is one of those choices. And Steffy is Liam's baby momma, so sorry, yeah, I can get behind him initially being who is this guy and is it right that he's with Steffy at this moment and is Steffy in her right mind to be with this guy at this time. I get that Liam's waffling makes him not the best messenger for this argument but it's not actually a bad argument/discussion to be pointing out. If he wasn't giving a flying poop about Steffy and Finn then people would be saying he doesn't care and is uninvolved and too focused on Hope and Beth.  Even when he has a decent argument, dude can't win.

I really wish they hadn't given Liam two kids inside of a year with two different women. It really just made him look bad with no one on canvas rightfully calling *that* crap out. Unless Kelly is proven to be Bill's or Liam is killed off, there is no true end to this quandry. And the sad thing is see all this work they're doing to firmly move Steffy on with Liam fighting to stay firmly as father to Kelly? Will be completely undone and retconned to have Kelly feel like Liam abandoned her and left her for Hope and Beth with the same retconned Daddy issues Steffy had re Ridge and Steffy still nursing wounds over losing Liam to Hope. Kelly and Beth will be pitted against each other instead of refreshingly united and supportive of each other and bonded over having the same dad who made them both feel loved. I'd love if they really did turn out to be close like Steffy and Phoebe as Steffy had intended when she 'adopted' Beth. And no fighting over men - one of Liam's daughters should be like her Great Aunt Karen and be a lesbian leading woman for the show.  If the girls have to fight, let it be over Spencer publishing.

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Liam does need Hope taking him to task over his issues with Finn and Steffy, but I hope when the time comes and he ask WTF is she listening to Thomas and letting him insinuate himself in their lives again that he's not dismissed and she respects what HE has to say.

I can't argue with that one. What's good for the gander is good for the goose, and they have always had issues with running to other people about things to address with each other.

And I guess if they've made a media blitz about this, that's as good a sign as any. I mean B&B has had some pleasant surprises like Steffy and Hope putting the past aside to take Thomas down. I would've believed we would be going on 7 months into a pandemic before I'd believed B&B capable of that if I'd spoken to a time traveller a year ago, so I'll remain cautiously optimistic.

2 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

And the sad thing is see all this work they're doing to firmly move Steffy on with Liam fighting to stay firmly as father to Kelly? Will be completely undone and retconned to have Kelly feel like Liam abandoned her and left her for Hope and Beth with the same retconned Daddy issues Steffy had re Ridge and Steffy still nursing wounds over losing Liam to Hope.

From your lips to Bell's ears 😞

i don't like this either, but yeah, we know Grandma Taylor is gonna play that shit to the hilt and poison Kelly like she did her own children. Never mind that Liam was done with Steffy the minute he found that test, when Hope was on the opposite side of the world and barely a thought in his mind. 

 

[CountryGirl]

Spoilers for the week of October 26th: https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/spoilers/

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Monday October 26:

Zende may be young and hip and in the know, but even he apparently can fall prey to the pitfalls of modern technology. Unfortunately for him, the tech fail he experiences will cause him to miss not an important meeting with other Forrester Creations staffers, but an opportunity to potentially score points with Zoe! Yawnnnnnn.

If you thought Quinn was simply going to sit back while nemesis Brooke rode off into the sunset with Ridge… well, you really don’t know the scheming brunette very well! While Wyatt has more than a passing familiarity with his mom’s manipulative nature, even he is stunned by her latest scheme. Will being put on blast by Wyatt convince Quinn to rethink her plan? Doubtful.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday October 27:

Ever since Flo reappeared on the scene, she’s had no bigger supporter than Quinn. Heck, she’s been cheering on a Wyatt/Flo romance since they were in high school! But that doesn’t mean that Wyatt wants his mom living with him and Flo! Get ready for some laughs as Wyatt tries to prevent exactly that from happening! Flatt having to play Three's Company with Mama Quinn should serve their skank asses right. 

After everything they’ve been through over the past few months, Ridge and Brooke could use a little bit of good news… and that’s exactly what they’re about to get! WGAF?

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday October 28:

Before Steffy went to rehab, she experienced some of her darkest moments… and dad Ridge was right there by her side. It’s likely to be a long time before he’s able to erase from his memory the sight of his troubled daughter wielding a switchblade! But today, the pair shares a heartfelt father/daughter moment that should help both move on from the recent trauma.

Thomas has done a pretty good job of convincing everyone that he’s got his head screwed on straight. But things get pretty intense when he issues a warning to Finn about Liam, making us think maybe Thomas isn’t necessarily as well adjusted as he’d have folks believe! I knew he was still Tommy Two-Loose Screws.

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday October 29:

In case you haven’t noticed, Hope is definitely #TeamSinn. So big a cheerleader has she become for the pairing that Steffy can’t help but wonder if perhaps there’s an ulterior motive involved. Duh!

Finn gets an up-close and personal look at the dynamic that exists between siblings Thomas and Steffy. Seeing as only yesterday he got to see Thomas’ more intense side, how will these experiences impact his growing relationship with Steffy? Between the Steamless portrait and Thomas, I'd keep a wide berth if I were Finn. I still feel like there's something off about him but he's so wooden still that maybe that's it?

Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Friday October 30:

Hope has been carefully navigating her complicated relationship with Thomas for weeks. After all, the two of them are co-parenting Douglas and working for the same company. But is the struggle of balancing the intricacies of their situation become tough on her? Let me guess...now Hope will get addicted to pills so we can have a Very Special Week of episodes.

Quinn did a whole lotta damage — including to her own marriage — by scheming with Shauna. Being something of a softy, it’s easy to imagine Eric opening his heart and forgiving his estranged wife. But when she asks that he and his son do exactly that, Ridge makes it clear exactly how he feels. Will Ridge’s no-holds-barred approach influence his father? Eh, Ridge was her former cheating partner so I don't think Eric should listen to anything he has to say. Andplusalso, it's his own damn toddler acting self that got him into the sham marriage in the first place.

[Anna Yolei]

5 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

After everything they’ve been through over the past few months, Ridge and Brooke could use a little bit of good news… and that’s exactly what they’re about to get! WGAF?

If Brooke is pregnant, I will scream. 😒

[Joimiaroxeu]

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If Brooke is pregnant, I will scream. 😒

Bet her uterus would too. "Wait, I thought I was retired?"

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It’s likely to be a long time before he’s able to erase from his memory the sight of his troubled daughter wielding a switchblade!

Ever the drama queen, Ridge. Oh please, that nonsense was hilarious. Where would Steffy even have gotten a switchblade? Or learned how to use it? I would've been more impressed it she'd pulled out a .22 and started screaming, "You dirty rats! Gimme my baby!"

[TobinAlbers]

23 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Finn gets an up-close and personal look at the dynamic that exists between siblings Thomas and Steffy. Seeing as only yesterday he got to see Thomas’ more intense side, how will these experiences impact his growing relationship with Steffy? Between the Steamless portrait and Thomas, I'd keep a wide berth if I were Finn. I still feel like there's something off about him but he's so wooden still that maybe that's it?

But Finn is the bestest, most awesome, white knight ever and he's Steffy's everything ::sarcasm::

Finn crossed lines from the moment he made his 'house call' on Steffy. The character has been set up as a no win for me unless we find out he's got a whopper of an interesting backstory. About the only thing that would be interesting is if he's actually Lil' Deacon all grown up who changed his name and became a doctor while Amber wasn't looking.

17 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

After everything they’ve been through over the past few months, Ridge and Brooke could use a little bit of good news… and that’s exactly what they’re about to get! WGAF?

Probably something lame like RJ returns.