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It's always fun to spot actors who had staring roles in other series, and seeing 2, Kevin Doyle (Downtown Abbey) and Jack Deam (Father Brown) in the latest episode did not disappoint. 

I was trying to work out the relationship between Vera and her cousins.  I am assuming it was through her father that she was related to them - right?

The actor who played Nial Halsop gave a very creepy, scary performance.

BTW, Brenda Blethyn just turned 77!

 

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I'm glad Vera called for backup in this one since I've complained before when episodes have ended with her going off on her own to confront the villain. I used to think that was a show invention, but I read both The Darkest Evening and The Rising Tide and IIRC she does that in both. It was especially frustrating in the latter because of how dangerous the villain is. I still enjoyed reading them, though. I will say that I've gotten so used to Vera being the central figure in the show that it took me a while to adjust to the multiple POVs in the books.

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40 minutes ago, krankydoodle said:

I'm glad Vera called for backup in this one since I've complained before when episodes have ended with her going off on her own to confront the villain.

I'm not sure leaving a message on Aiden's voicemail!! counts as calling for backup! I had the passing thought at the time that something nefarious might have happened to Aiden and he wouldn't be able to respond, after all, why wouldn't he answer his phone? so I was still disappointed that she didn't at least call for a patrol car.

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On 3/22/2023 at 9:41 AM, Milburn Stone said:

I'm not terribly surprised at the Doughty news. In the S12 episode we watched the other night, he basically had nothing to do but follow Vera around like a pup. After all the seasons he's put in, I thought he can't be happy with that. And I guess he wasn't.

The last couple seasons in particular I'd noticed this also. Not just Aiden but the whole team. It seemed their only purpose was to screw something up so Vera could have a great epiphany and make the connection.

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16 hours ago, mledawn said:

Oh wow! Joe is coming back and Season 13 has been confirmed! Does Hello! count as a reputable news source? I don't know - sort of sketchy. But I will take it!!

Britbox put it out on Instagram last evening too. I had the strangest sense that, when the actor playing Aidan announced he was leaving, Joe would be returning. Glad to hear it. I always preferred Joe to Aidan. 

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I liked Aiden as a character more than Joe in the first four or so seasons he was in. I enjoyed the chemistry between BB and KD and liked Aiden's character. 

The last 4 seasons, the last 3 in particular it felt like the writers really shoved every character who wasn't Vera into strictly prop roles, which made Aiden pretty boring. Like I said in a prior post it seemed like the team was only there to make mistakes for Vera to shine as she cleaned up the mistake, and/or the mistake caused Vera to have the case cracking revelation.

I think since Joe is from the books, the writers were always more faithful to Joe as a genuine foil/partner/balance to Vera than they were with Aiden. From that perspective I do like Joe and will enjoy seeing David Leon back with the cast. But I am going to miss KD and the character of Aiden from seasons 5 to 9.

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I have to say that I was impressed with Season 12.  The Darkest Evening most of all.  You could really tell it was based on a book, it seemed much more complicated than usual and I really liked that the killer didn't turn out to either be totally obvious or less than believable.

I also liked that the subject of fathers and daughters was a running thread, especially in the way that Vera recognized the subject of the victim's paintings.

It will be interesting to see Joe returning.  I wonder if the actor agreed to it because they feel the show may only run another season or two?  Not that I want to see that!

I did like Aiden but perhaps the actor just wanted to move on to other things.

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On 7/2/2023 at 10:29 PM, roseha said:

I have to say that I was impressed with Season 12.  The Darkest Evening most of all.  You could really tell it was based on a book, it seemed much more complicated than usual and I really liked that the killer didn't turn out to either be totally obvious or less than believable.

I also liked that the subject of fathers and daughters was a running thread, especially in the way that Vera recognized the subject of the victim's paintings.

It will be interesting to see Joe returning.  I wonder if the actor agreed to it because they feel the show may only run another season or two?  Not that I want to see that!

I did like Aiden but perhaps the actor just wanted to move on to other things.

My thoughts exactly when I saw it was based upon one of the books. 

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I also liked the Christmas special, another one based on a book. I think it might've benefited from a longer runtime since there were a lot of characters and the various relationships were so messy, but I preferred the episode's ending to the book's.

Billy's an appealing character and I'm glad he's been added to the team. I think this is the first time in a long time they've shown Mark out of the office, so maybe he'll take on a more active role now.

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22 hours ago, krankydoodle said:

I think it might've benefited from a longer runtime

Yes, I felt like the revelation of the villain was pretty abrupt, and I found it hard to believe that Annie would have covered up for him (re. the baby's death) all this time. 

OTOH, I thought Billy had a pretty believable arc from 'useless kid' to 'functioning team member' to 'hero' within 88 minutes.

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But I don't think Annie knew, did she? Isn't that one of the things Vera says in the confrontation at the end, that Annie's suffering was compounded because she blamed herself for the baby's death? It's possible I missed something because I was getting annoyed that Vera was yet again facing off with a killer by herself. I was so glad for the reveal that she wasn't.

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Just watched the first show of the new season.  

David Leon has returned as Joe only now he's a DI (same as Vera).  He's there to look at their procedures which really irritates Vera.  I liked him and was sorry to see him leave the show but in this episode he wasn't the same old Joe and at times rather annoying - for example when Kenny calls him Joe, Joe replies "call me sir".

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19 hours ago, abbyzenn said:

Just watched the first show of the new season.  

David Leon has returned as Joe only now he's a DI (same as Vera).  He's there to look at their procedures which really irritates Vera.  I liked him and was sorry to see him leave the show but in this episode he wasn't the same old Joe and at times rather annoying - for example when Kenny calls him Joe, Joe replies "call me sir".

Yes, and when he calls Vera by her first name she replies “That’s ma’am [mum] to you”.

He came around though!

Sad to see Jack is also gone - I hadn’t heard anything about the actor leaving the show.

A new Vera book will be published this fall 

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Coming out on the 29th August 2024, The Dark Wives is the next book in the Vera Stanhope series

The Dark Wives

by Ann Cleeves

 

A man’s body is found by a local dog walker on the common outside Rosebank, a care home for trouble teens. The victim is Josh, a staff member. DI Vera Stanhope is called out to investigate the death. Her only clue is the disappearance of one of the home’s residents, fourteen-year-old Chloe Spence. Vera can’t bring herself to believe that a teenager is responsible for the murder, but even she can’t dismiss the possibility. Vera, Joe and new team member Rosie Bell are soon embroiled in the case, and when a second body is found near the Three Dark Wives landmark, superstition and folklore begin to collide with fact.

 

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I just finished the first episode of season 13 and was surprised to see more cast changes than I expected. It's too bad because I liked the characters who left even though their roles were relatively minor.

It is nice to have Joe back, though, and to see his history with Vera referenced. I don't love everything they did with his character, but I'm relieved he's still married so we don't have to deal with fallout from a divorce. I liked Aiden fine but much prefer Joe's relationship with Vera because he pushes back a bit more but does so with respect and affection.

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