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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

I just don't care about Kristina's fluidity. The issue that needs to be addressed is why she's been in school for 5 years in real time and is still nowhere near finished with undergrad and has dropped out yet again. There's more to life than having boyfriend or a girlfriend. Why aren't young people on soaps allowed to have goals anymore?

 

I don't ever recall the young set having goals on any soaps - except trying to land a girlfriend/boyfriend. Not to say it doesn't suck, but it's tried and true.

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SlovakPrincess

SlovakPrincess

I don't ever recall the young set having goals on any soaps - except trying to land a girlfriend/boyfriend. Not to say it doesn't suck, but it's tried and true.

Although they at least used to try a little harder to make the characters well rounded. Even loveable goof Blackie was focused on college and his band as well as adventure and cute girls.

And I remember even when young Robin's life was in turmoil because Stone was sick, people still cared about her education ... there was a nice scene once where Stone asked her why she worked so hard in school, like the poor kid was genuinely curious because nobody had ever encouraged that in him.

I think the Kristina stuff could be good story, but most of what they do with her is just pull her out of the woodwork to have some kind of high drama -- nearly getting blown up by dear old dad, getting beat up by her boyfriend, now this relationship with a professor. Kristina doesn't seem like a fully realized person to me ... but maybe it's just because I'm biased against SORAS-Ed kids.

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tvgoddess

tvgoddess

I think Molly is a good example of the younger set not just into having a boyfriend. She's always been very smart, focused and dedicated to school. She wrote a book, she taught herself sign language so she could teach it to Sam when she was deaf for two seconds, she tutored TJ, she babysat Danny a lot, and she's also comfortable with performing onstage whether it be at Maxie and Spinelli's non-wedding or at the Nurse's Ball. She seems to be well-rounded. If they showed that kind of stuff, I'm sure she was probably Valedictorian of her class. I really think she should be featured more, which I'm sure is an UO.

 

To me, Kristina is smart but she's also just very emotional. She has a tendency to make things all about her (hmm, wonder where she gets that from?) and the drama that comes from that just doesn't lend itself as well to her being just about school. We know she puts a lot of pressure on herself to presumably live up to her mom's expectations. She also has self-esteem issues, combined with those two things I'm surprised she's never had an eating disorder. [That's a storyline I wouldn't mind seeing tackled, although I also cringe at the possibilities of how bad it could be.]

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

Kristina is someone who definitely needed to take a year or more off before going to college. If they wanted her onscreen, she could have worked at the MetroCourt or for Alexis or something. If they didn't want her onscreen, they could have sent her to work with Lucky in Africa (heh) or something like that. 

 

I'd rather have her drop out of college because it wasn't for her, not because she's propositioning her professors for better grades. 

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Tiger

Tiger

I just don't care about Kristina's fluidity. The issue that needs to be addressed is why she's been in school for 5 years in real time and is still nowhere near finished with undergrad and has dropped out yet again. There's more to life than having boyfriend or a girlfriend. Why aren't young people on soaps allowed to have goals anymore?

Has any soap ever tackled bi-sexuality before?

I think ite be far more interesting if told with a male, and truly told.

In2You

In2You

Kristina is someone who definitely needed to take a year or more off before going to college. If they wanted her onscreen, she could have worked at the MetroCourt or for Alexis or something. If they didn't want her onscreen, they could have sent her to work with Lucky in Africa (heh) or something like that. 

 

I'd rather have her drop out of college because it wasn't for her, not because she's propositioning her professors for better grades. 

Kristina has had time off though since she started school. Remember she started her first semester late and then only ended up staying for a few weeks anyway. They thought she was in school but she was really hanging out with Trey creating the reality show that never aired. So then she came back home and was off from school for basically a year. Then they said she went back to school and was doing summer and winter sessions to catch up.And this is supposed to be a character that was supposedly smart enough to go into school already with college credits. 

IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

I don't care what Julian does to Alexis. Laura is still one of the most boring characters ever on this show. The woman has the personality and excitement of a piece of dehydrated fruit. I don't think MB is a horrible actor, but I also don't think GH has ever really had GREAT male actors. The women have always out performed the men, in just about any decade, in just about any story.

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Chairperson Meow

Chairperson Meow

23 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

He probably forgot about that tbh.

I forget about Brad tbh.   When he's on, I'm like "Oh?  It's Brad.  Cool. "   He's not Sonny nor related to Sonny, so that helps a lot.  Plus, his character married Lucas instead of Felix, another win.  He also usually is in the hospital.   Plus, I dig Perry Shen.  So, eh.  I let that slide too.  Plus,  the show keeps on about Rocco/Ben, so yeah.   I can see him forgetting that.    

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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Which says even more about how badly GH has treated its actresses over the years. 

Some of the actresses, not all of them. For instance, if I were NLG's boss, she would have been back burnered for a while after that Twitter stunt. Which one? Exactly. Every time she opens her mouth, she brings negative attention to the show-something it doesn't need. And yet as far as anyone watching the show is aware, other than maybe a bawling out, nothing happened to her. They've obviously been more than generous to Kirsten Storms with her issues, they let Finola have summer breaks similar to Geary's, etc. They write most of the women questionably, but Frank-or someone-seems to be far more understanding than past show runners.

They've even let Leslie Charleson out of the vet closet. I'd say right now is the best it's been in a while, to be an actress on GH. And while I have a hard time understanding the story directions of this writing regime, and the wimmin are still mostly about their men-they are, for the most part, stronger and more layered than the way they were written a decade ago. Far from perfect, but a vast improvement over much of the stuff Guza spewed out.

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

2 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

they let Finola have summer breaks similar to Geary's

The salaries are/were vastly different, so it's not exactly the same thing. I think there's such a lack of storytelling effort that the writers and Frank figure, Why not give an actor some time off if requested? It means they don't have to deal with the character for a while. Anna's not driving any stories, and her JusticeForDuke campaign was a nonstarter from the get-go. I'll miss FH, but I won't miss Anna. 

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UYI

UYI

3 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

For instance, if I were NLG's boss, she would have been back burnered for a while after that Twitter stunt. Which one? Exactly. 

 

 

She's done some stupid things on Twitter, but what she said about Viola Davis was on another level, and got more attention because it involved another ABC employee, whose show is produced by arguably the most powerful person in the TV industry right now. Nancy is VERY lucky she survived that. 

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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I would have not only fired her, I would have written NLG and WdV off together, and I would have had them sign a clause that they could not speak of or print anything about their firings to the media, or on a public forum, or face a lawsuit. Buh-bye. And I always say I could never be "the boss" because I couldn't fire someone, but I think I'd make an exception in her case.

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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

I think what NLG did was dumb as fuck and it made her and the show and network look bad, but hell, if Steve-O wasn't fucking fired for his pyramid juice scams along with Becky Herbst and Natalia Livingston, who were allegedly spilling spoilers at events for buying said juice (BH's hubby was into it, too), I say Nancy stays, too. Hell, the juice made ABC lose advertisers.

All for one, one for all.

It's why I'll forever adore Ingo Rademacher for his open letter to Steve.

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

Meh, the backstage garbage is my least favorite part of watching any TV show. I don't really care to know, TBH. To this day, I know next to nothing about JuiceGate. I think the name of it was Monavie, wasn't it? And that's the extent of my knowledge. I don't know what Ingo's letter was, and don't care. I don't know who sold what to who-and don't care. *shrug* It's totally fine with me if NLG remains on this show until the end, because I don't watch her scenes.

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Chairperson Meow

Chairperson Meow

7 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I would have not only fired her, I would have written NLG and WdV off together, and I would have had them sign a clause that they could not speak of or print anything about their firings to the media, or on a public forum, or face a lawsuit. Buh-bye. And I always say I could never be "the boss" because I couldn't fire someone, but I think I'd make an exception in her case.

I think, nay I know I'd put that no speaking to the media in Mo's contract as well.   I'd be like shut down the twitter or deuce out.  I'd be a Shonda Rhimes in chuck taylors.

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Asp Burger

Asp Burger

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What I liked most about Ingo's letter was this line: "The minor celebrity status granted to all of us because of our involvement in a successful television show must always be considered a privilege, not a right and certainly not a commodity to be brokered for personal gain." He has some perspective. These days it's hard even to call GH "successful," but it had a somewhat larger audience in 2008. Ingo's soap experience all comes post OJ trial, so he never experienced being a soap actor when the genre was in its prime, but in his first stint (1996-2000), GH was much more successful than it is now. Even so, he's right. Only a very few soap actors are more than minor celebrities, and he and Burton are not among them. Soap actors shouldn't let fan gush at those events go to their heads, and try to squeeze more out of fans than they're already fortunate to be getting.    

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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I think, nay I know I'd put that no speaking to the media in Mo's contract as well.   I'd be like shut down the twitter or deuce out.  I'd be a Shonda Rhimes in chuck taylors.

I don't think they should have to shut down their Twitters, or even be prohibited from making comments about the show. I do think they should be made aware that any inappropriate or negative comments about any public figures, whether they be co stars or someone running for public office, should be nipped in the bud. Being a television actor shouldn't be carte blanche to just say or do whatever you want without repercussions. On the flip side, many things said on social media are intended to be harmless and truly blown completely out of proportion, to the point where some are afraid to speak at all. And that's not good, either.

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Chairperson Meow

Chairperson Meow

I really want to see the Ingo letter.

And I'd do what WWE does.  Actors have a controlled account for interacting with fans where you don't act like a douche canoe and embarrass the product.  You have your private account for your own crap.  Fire Nathan Varni and hire a legit publicist for the Daytime Division and announce to everyone that things are changing.   Rehire promo guy from SoapNet.  Start making actual promos.  My legit favorite promo was the one from the AJ Quartermaine Murder fallout with no faces in it, just quotes on screen and voices.  It had suspense and sold the story.  Because then the story was the fucking selling point.  Not this actor, that stunt.  The actual story.  Like holy shit balls, you guys, we are going there.  We are really doing stuff now.  And they did.   

Asp Burger

Asp Burger

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I really want to see the Ingo letter.

“We often ask a lot of our fans and certainly they are responsible for their own choices and have the freedom to make them but I believe we must be very careful not to push the bounds of decency and cross lines that should not be crossed. There have a been slew of fans, as well as several media outlets who have expressed outrage and disappointment in what they feel is a widespread campaign by cast members on this show to exploit their dedicated and loyal fanbase by asking their participation in a multilevel marketing venture that ensures windfalls for those lucky enough to be at the top with little reward (if any) for those entering on the bottom. The minor celebrity status granted to all of us because of our involvement in a successful television show must always be considered a privilege, not a right and certainly not a commodity to be brokered for personal gain. I truly believe the long term detriment to our reputation as a whole cast and crew far outweighs and is further reaching than the short-term profits gained by a select few.”

It's been in the "News" thread here once, more than a year ago (ulkis brought it over), and it was on Rademacher's website at the time and was copied onto various GH fan forums when the story break.  

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RedVelvetWaffles

RedVelvetWaffles

When GH did the "After School Special" episode(s) about racial profiling with TJ, I thought they should have gone all in and had Dante shoot TJ.  Not that I hate either character, but they way they handled it was pointless.

Hell they could have even brought in a friend for TJ and a partner for Dante just for that storyline if they were too chicken for it to be Dante shooting TJ, but with no one getting shot was a waste of time.

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Francie

Francie

On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 9:01 AM, tvgoddess said:

I think Molly is a good example of the younger set not just into having a boyfriend. She's always been very smart, focused and dedicated to school. She wrote a book, she taught herself sign language so she could teach it to Sam when she was deaf for two seconds, she tutored TJ, she babysat Danny a lot, and she's also comfortable with performing onstage whether it be at Maxie and Spinelli's non-wedding or at the Nurse's Ball. She seems to be well-rounded. If they showed that kind of stuff, I'm sure she was probably Valedictorian of her class. I really think she should be featured more, which I'm sure is an UO.

 

A recent post brought me to this thread, but I read the whole page, and this post caught my attention.

I think that most of Molly's character development was during the Guza era, and that the subsequent regimes have been coasting on that characterization.

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UYI

UYI

3 hours ago, Francie said:

A recent post brought me to this thread, but I read the whole page, and this post caught my attention.

I think that most of Molly's character development was during the Guza era, and that the subsequent regimes have been coasting on that characterization.

Although, to be fair, in this case I think it's a good thing, because it means she's actively considered a smart character. 

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RedVelvetWaffles

RedVelvetWaffles

I prefer newNik to Tyler's sweaty, bloaty Nik. I think newNik is a better actor than TC. TC's tattoo's never fit the character of Nik. I wouldn't miss TC at all if he didn't come back.

I hate all of Alexis's kids. If I had ever talked to my mother the way Molly talks to Alexis, I wouldn't be here to post due to my extreme deadness. I'm only exaggerating slightly. I would have a) gotten my mouth washed out with soap, b) smacked, c) all of the above and then some.   

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