Star Wars: Rogue One (2016)

[FurryFury]

A female lead doesn't equal THE lead being a female. The gender of the main character matters a lot, it always has. And a co-lead isn't nearly the same. Sure, Leia mattered, but the original thrilogy was Luke's story - while Episodes 7-9 shape to be Rey's, and Rogue One shape to be Jan's (Jyn's? I'm pretty sure her name is similar/the same to Kyle Katharn's GF in Jedi Knight games, she was a smuggler, BTW)

Edited April 9, 2016 by FurryFury

[Morrigan2575]

I think it's Jyn

[Joe]

I haven't seen any of these star wars films, but hasn't there always been a female lead in all these films? I guess the only different is that instead of following Luke's journey or Anakin falls they are just following Rey and whoever Felicity's character is but those two are still sharing the lead (co-lead as you will) with a male or two male characters.

There's the outright lead and the secondary lead. The women in the original and prequel trilogies were secondary leads. In these new ones, they're the outright leads.

 

Kyle Katarn's main squeeze was Jan Ors. It's close.

[VCRTracking]

Well Titanic has two leads(Leonardo DiCaprio as Jack, Kate Winslet as Rose) but it's definitely Rose's story.

Edited April 9, 2016 by VCRTracking

[Demented Daisy]

Daisy Ridley dismisses Star Wars theory.

[JessePinkman]

That's not entirely a denial, just a comment on them both being white and brunette is a leap (just like I think the people who say Carrie Fisher, Natalie Portman and Daisy look sooooo much alike are reaching. They're 3 pretty white women with brown hair...).

[benteen]

That's not entirely a denial, just a comment on them both being white and brunette is a leap (just like I think the people who say Carrie Fisher, Natalie Portman and Daisy look sooooo much alike are reaching. They're 3 pretty white women with brown hair...).

 

There's definitely a resemblance between Ridley and Portman. 

[Jediknight]

Daisy Ridley dismisses Star Wars theory.

Well, she's not going to come out and say "You guys are right, she's my mother."  She's got a nondisclosure agreement with Disney about the movies, she's not going to break that and risk the wrath of the biggest media company in the world.

[ulkis]

Abrams and co. have not exactly been subtle in not wanting anything to do with the prequels.

 

Which frustrates me a bit. There were plenty of decent ideas in the prequels that just got messed up in execution. imo. There's no reason they can't still take ideas/names/places from the prequels like they did with the EU.

 

anyway, like someone said it doesn't seem very Star Wars-y, and the "I rebel" line is silly but it looks decent.

Edited April 14, 2016 by ulkis

[VCRTracking]

I think it's a good idea if you're going to make anthology movies that are in a different style and tone to start with a story that's going to use a lot of familiar iconography from the main movies. The criticism of TFA is it used familiar story, archetypes and style along with the iconography.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Daisy Ridley and Keira Knightley to me, hardly have ANY differences in their faces, to the point where it's eerie.  It's extremely, extremely eerie how much they look alike in my opinion.  So yeah, there's resemblance among all three (Portman/Ridley/Knightley) , I'd say.  Carrie Fisher, however, I don't know. 

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=daisy+ridley+keira+knightley&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=599&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC-56OnIzMAhVikIMKHYhMCFQQ_AUIBigB

[Zuleikha]

Keira Knightley? Is that supposed to read Felicity Jones? Knightley was just in a minor role as one of Amidala's body doubles. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

No, it is not supposed to read Felicity Jones.

I was referring to this point:

There's definitely a resemblance between Ridley and Portman.

1. Keira was Natalie Portman's "body double" as you say in Star Wars 1. So it would follow that a lot of people believe that Natalie Portman and Keira look alike.

2. I myself think that Daisy looks so much like Keira that it's eerie, so yeah, I guess I would agree with the above point , that Daisy Ridley and Natalie Portman look alike.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay

[VCRTracking]

From EW.Com

This Week's Cover:Inside the Star Wars stand-alone Rogue One

From Birth. Movies. Death:

Forest Whitaker Is Playing A Cartoon Character In ROGUE ONE

I'm happy about this. The Clone Wars arc that Whitaker's character Saw Gererra was in is one of the best storylines of the series. It delved into the nuance and complexity of the Clone Wars conflict that the live action movies didn't go into. The discussion between Obi-Wan and Anakin on what the difference between a freedom fighter vs a terrorist was great.

[benteen]

I love the Clone Wars so I'm very excited about this information.  That particular storyline was a great one and I remember at the time, years before the Disney sale and the new movies, that it was considered an early look at what would become the Rebel Alliance.  So adapting the Saw Gererra character to live action was a good and logical move.

[Rick Kitchen]

So there's going to be a young, up-and-coming Darth Vader?

[AimingforYoko]

45 minutes ago, Rick Kitchen said:

So there's going to be a young, up-and-coming Darth Vader?

He's going to be proactive and totally in your face! Plus I think they'll Rasta-fy him by about 10%.

Seriously, this is just before A New Hope, so not that young.

[Ronin Jackson]

If it's taking place just before A New Hope, they'd do well to avoid a new Han Solo cameo. 

[benteen]

I'll definitely avoid a Han Solo cameo.  Han shouldn't be part of the Rebellion or the Galactic Civil War at all before ANH.

Though I hope they keep Han's past from the old books in the new movie.  Just in case they actually do retain it, I'll put it under spoiler locks

Spoiler

Han was a former Imperial officer who got thrown out of the service for rescuing Chewie from slavery.  This was long-established in the old EU and I always thought the idea of Han being a former Imperial officer was fascinating.  To me, that's too good a storyline to pass up.

[nobodyyoucare]

On ‎6‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 9:23 AM, benteen said:

I love the Clone Wars so I'm very excited about this information.  That particular storyline was a great one and I remember at the time, years before the Disney sale and the new movies, that it was considered an early look at what would become the Rebel Alliance.  So adapting the Saw Gererra character to live action was a good and logical move.

Seems to be the reshoots at work. Test audiences didn't like the first cut so they changed things. Note Forest character was unnamed in the trailer and bald. Now he has hair so perhaps the character in the first cut had a different name and they decided to change the character.

[VCRTracking]

Everybody was unnamed in the trailer . Also it hasn't been screened in front of test audiences yet, it was Disney execs who were reportedly not happy.

Edited June 29, 2016 by VCRTracking

[VCRTracking]

[SnoGirl]

I am in love. If the movie is put together with care like that^ was, it's going to be right up there with Empire Strikes Back and The Force Awakens.

Seriously, some of those shots were gorgeous! And I'm even more intrigued. I know the story is straight forward, but I can't wait to watch the journey on how they get there.

I would totally be that guy laughing in the X-Wing. So cool, I'm jealous of everyone who gets to help bring any of the Star Wars movies to life.

[Joe]

3 hours ago, SnoGirl said:

I would totally be that guy laughing in the X-Wing. So cool, I'm jealous of everyone who gets to help bring any of the Star Wars movies to life.

I bet I know what he's thinking. "Oh my god, I'm in an X-Wing! Can I say it? Can I say it? I have to say it! I'm gonna say it! Lock S-Foils in attack position! Cut the chatter, Red Two! Yes!" That's what would be going through my head.

[Morrigan2575]

I watched the special preview that aired last night during the ABC Star Wars Special.  This movie looks great, i can't wait for it to come out.

[Joe]

3 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I watched the special preview that aired last night during the ABC Star Wars Special.  This movie looks great, i can't wait for it to come out.

Is that different to the behind the scenes look we got yesterday?

[Jediknight]

On 7/15/2016 at 10:56 PM, Joe said:

I bet I know what he's thinking. "Oh my god, I'm in an X-Wing! Can I say it? Can I say it? I have to say it! I'm gonna say it! Lock S-Foils in attack position! Cut the chatter, Red Two! Yes!" That's what would be going through my head.

What would be going through my head is "We're going in, we're going in full throttle.  That ought to keep those fighters off our back."

[Morrigan2575]

6 hours ago, Joe said:

Is that different to the behind the scenes look we got yesterday?

Nope, same one, i just didn't see it until they aired it during the special. 

[Joe]

Okay. There was an actual trailer at Celebration, but it hasn't been released online. I was thinking the one in the special was it, but no such luck. I have to be away from the net for a few days, that's when they will release it. Sometime in the next four days, I bet.

[PatternRec]

I don't really follow much of the Star Wars universe other than the 7 films so I don't know what's "canon" or not. This looks really well shot, so it's down to the script really. I hope it's good, and not the movie equivalent of a really attractive person you find out has a horrible personalty six weeks into the relationship...

[BetterButter]

[maraleia]

I cannot wait to see this movie. So glad that Kathleen Kennedy is in charge now because the stories are deeper and more diverse than ever.

[Joe]

"Can you be trusted without your shackles?" is such a bullshit question. If she can, she would say yes. If she can't, then she's going to say yes just to cause more trouble. I would say no, just to be contrary.

Also, Star Wars is starting to get a bit James Bond, with filming in the Maldives. Travel to exotic locations around the world, show off their beauty, then blow some shit up. I mean that in a complimentary way. No matter how bad a James Bond movie is, at least there's some scenery porn before the action scenes.

[VCRTracking]

Liked it but especially got a charge when Vader was shown in the very end.

 

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I cannot wait to see this movie. So glad that Kathleen Kennedy is in charge now because the stories are deeper and more diverse than ever.

They were deep and diverse in the CG Clone Wars when George Lucas was in charge(and he was involved in that). Forest Whitaker's character being first introduced there.

[Jediknight]

Dude, I am ready.

I love that Gareth Edwards makes stuff to scale perfectly.  Seriously, the Imperial Star Destroyers and the Death Star look massive.

[thuganomics85]

I'm more and more intrigued after each trailer.  I agree that Gareth Edwards really seems to be great with scale.  He just makes all of the Imperial's ships, AT-ATs, and the freaking Death Star, look so massive and intimating, and really shows how much of a disadvantage the Rebellion is at, and is making me looking forward to how they pull it off, and at what cost.

Intrigued at the glimpses of the cast and characters, although unless I missed him, I don't think I saw Mads Mikkelson, and I'm really curious to see what his involvement will be.

[Danny Franks]

This looks really good. I get a very Dirty Dozen/Magnificent Seven vibe from the trailer, introducing the various characters rather than trying to establish much plot or big set pieces. And that would be a really good way to go: a ragtag group of misfits sacrificing themselves for a good cause, against an enemy that is overpowering.

This movie could easily end up being darker than Empire, which would be a nice refutation of the arguments of the anti-Disney whiners.

[DollEyes]

Between the great actors, the great characters (old and new), the great effects (CGI & practical) and the great trailers, if Disney wants to, they can just take my money now because I don't think I can wait until December. 

[Lugal]

After my disappointment with The Force Awakens, I'm actually been looking forward to this.  And that was before I saw Darth Vader at the end.

And we get to see Alan Tudyk play a 7 foot tall droid, so even better

[AimingforYoko]

Star Wars always gives good trailer.

[Morrigan2575]

This looks awesome.  Was that (please say yes) HK-47? Please call her meatbag! LOL

I'm very excited for this movie, it definitely has  Dirty Dozen/Magnificent Seven vibe to it.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[Kromm]

5 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

it definitely has  Dirty Dozen/Magnificent Seven vibe to it.

Totally intentionally.

[BetterButter]

International Trailer

[Morrigan2575]

Oooohhh a little bit of extra info in that one, kind of gave away an important piece of the puzzle.  I think so anyway.

So I've watched the trailers a few times now and, i have a question.  The scene with the Blind Force User and the Stormtroopers, is he really taking them out with his staff or is it cleverly edited? I ask because at least once we see blaster fire so I'm wondering if he's moving around/ pushing them around so the Troopers end up taking each other out?

Edited August 16, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[FurryFury]

With everything that I hear about the movie, I have a good feeling about this.

[thuganomics85]

Looks like Disney isn't going to repeat some of their mistakes they did with The Force Awakens initial merchandise, and have already revealed that they've got ton of Jyn Erso toys and action figures coming out.

[benteen]

That's good to hear about the Jyn Erso toys though I imagine that must have been painful for the Disney hire-ups because girl action figures=yuck with most studios.

[Jediknight]

6 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Looks like Disney isn't going to repeat some of their mistakes they did with The Force Awakens initial merchandise, and have already revealed that they've got ton of Jyn Erso toys and action figures coming out.

With some of the Rey toys I can understand Disney not releasing them right away, they couldn't give away that she would wield the Skywalker lightsaber, and be the main character months before the movie was released.  The only thing with Jyn is if she's Rey's mother, but they can leave that off the blurbs on packages.

Edited August 31, 2016 by Jediknight

[starri]

1 hour ago, Jediknight said:

The only thing with Jyn is if she's Rey's mother, but they can leave that off the blurbs on packages.

I really hope this isn't the case.  While I really enjoyed parts of what's been rebranded as Star Wars Legends (especially the Thrawn stuff), one of the big problems with it was how ridiculously fan-service-y it was, and how small that ended up making the GFFA seem.  Making her Rey's mother is a straight-up Kevin J Anderson move, and that's not something they need to emulate.  Also, if this is supposed a story from somewhere else in the universe, make it completely its own thing.

As far as the action figures, at least they learned after two other tries.

[Jediknight]

Just figured I'd let everybody know that Amazon has the Jyn Erso Black Series figure up for preorder.  It's obviously not the Comic-Con one.