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auntieminem

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I looked it up and it was that podcast. They were talking about the control over the contracts and how JB basically negotiated with TLC so they would only have to deal with him and have the one contract with him.  He gave the right to film all the events of the kids.  Derick was saying it was like a pimp JB was going to give the the services of all the families and their life events.  

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doodlebug
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I'm from a fairly big city and raised mostly in town though also the suburbs.  I've had the same experience.  I attend a Catholic church and am active in several volunteer things there including medic

Aja
Aja

Once again, Michelle, I'm going to have to bum you out with a big old steaming pile of fact: I was born a girl, I'm glad to be a girl, I'm very feminine looking, I love being feminine looking...AND I'

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Happens all the time.  Had someone tell us they couldn't pay the bill for prenatal care because they were building a new house and couldn't spare the money.  Another had just bought a new car.  BTW, i

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

Former Boobchelle besties Jim and Bobye Holt are in the news. Bobye rescinded her restraining order against Jim. She claims he had counseling (suuuure Jan), and has changed. 

Good luck with that, Bobye.

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Tdoc72

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40 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Former Boobchelle besties Jim and Bobye Holt are in the news. Bobye rescinded her restraining order against Jim. She claims he had counseling (suuuure Jan), and has changed. 

Good luck with that, Bobye.

I guess she forgot that Josh, too, had counseling. It didn’t work on him and probably didn’t here either. 

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Salacious Kitty

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8 minutes ago, Tdoc72 said:

I guess she forgot that Josh, too, had counseling. It didn’t work on him and probably didn’t here either. 

Yeah, doubtful. Jim has gotten away with being a mean, abusive bully his entire adult life. Pushing 60, he ain't gonna change. 

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Scarlett45

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7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Former Boobchelle besties Jim and Bobye Holt are in the news. Bobye rescinded her restraining order against Jim. She claims he had counseling (suuuure Jan), and has changed. 

Good luck with that, Bobye.

I hope she stays safe. Doesn’t it take a victim 7x to leave?(on average)

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Meow Mix

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Sadly, it takes time to realize that an abuser can be on best behavior for a few months to try to get back on your good graces.  I wonder if they have gone through this cycle before and if so how many times it will take before she realizes that he will never change.

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Scarlett45

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4 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

Sadly, it takes time to realize that an abuser can be on best behavior for a few months to try to get back on your good graces.  I wonder if they have gone through this cycle before and if so how many times it will take before she realizes that he will never change.

I am not well versed but isn’t there a diagnosed cycle? The “honeymoon period” follows repenting and then the cycle of abuse starts again. 

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Salacious Kitty

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Jim and Bobye Holt have lost custody of their 3 minor children. They are now living with older brother Spencer. 

Posted here because it's rumored that JB was part of the "counseling" group who helped reunite Bobye and Jim 

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19 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jim and Bobye Holt have lost custody of their 3 minor children. They are now living with older brother Spencer. 

Posted here because it's rumored that JB was part of the "counseling" group who helped reunite Bobye and Jim 

That's ummm bad.   Guess letting Jim back in the house where the kids could be in danger was what caused CPS to act.   Presuming this was a formal court ordered removal, not just the parents deciding the kids would live with big brother.  

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BetyBee

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19 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

That's ummm bad.   Guess letting Jim back in the house where the kids could be in danger was what caused CPS to act.   Presuming this was a formal court ordered removal, not just the parents deciding the kids would live with big brother.  

If I was Bobye, I'd choose the kids over Jim. No contest!

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libgirl2

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49 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

If I was Bobye, I'd choose the kids over Jim. No contest!

Those people believe the husband comes first. He is the headship and he must be obeyed. 

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Salacious Kitty

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44 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Those people believe the husband comes first. He is the headship and he must be obeyed. 

At the expense of their children. Spencer, the son the kids are with, is no longer part of the IBLP. I doubt he has much of a relationship with his parents anymore, but he wants to protect his siblings from abuses he likely suffered.

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libgirl2

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4 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

At the expense of their children. Spencer, the son the kids are with, is no longer part of the IBLP. I doubt he has much of a relationship with his parents anymore, but he wants to protect his siblings from abuses he likely suffered.

I hate to say it and I don't wish for it, but she is going to get herself killed. 

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AgathaC

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23 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I hate to say it and I don't wish for it, but she is going to get herself killed. 

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t be at all surprised. When I wrote for a newspaper, I wrote several stories about domestic violence and resources to help victims. The psychology is fascinating in a horrifying sort of way. Especially considering the mindset and indoctrination of the cult, I’m surprised she got a restraining order on him at all.

Regardless, I hope the younger kids stay safely with their brother and that they get whatever emotional and psychological help they might need.

Sometimes a loss of power and control (real or perceived) can really trigger an abuser. Hope that the loss of the kids doesn’t set Jim off even more.

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auntieminem

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Bobye claimed that Jim did not harm the younger children but was only rough on the teens. They sure painted themselves so much better than J & M. But they were just as bad and maybe worse. Hard to believe she chose her husband over her kids but I do fear for her.  I think all the adult children were supportive of the brother getting custody.  

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

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The Holts permanently lost custody of the minor daughter (she's 17). I believe that temporary custody was granted for the boys.

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Extra period when I added her age.
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floridamom

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None of these women IMO are good mothers at all. Any parent who puts the offending parent first before the children is an idiot. They will offend again. Has Mr. Holt ever put his hands on Mrs. Holt? 

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CalicoKitty

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As a poster stated above, in this cult women must be subservient to their husband at the cost of their children.  Children are just  "blessings" whose numbers are bragging rights and who must be totally obedient.  Their needs can be ignored (Jill), but the husband must be front and center.  Someone mentioned that JB may have been one of the men who "counseled" the Holts.  I'm sure the pressure on Bobye was very strong.  Possibly threatening.

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