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satrunrose

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Well, it's the model Erin's grown up with, isn't it? You just have to grift to keep your head above water (sort of) and God will eventually provide a new house and a tv show. What they both lack the critical thinking skills to realize is that

a) the moment for 'wholesome' freak shows that encouraged the audience to either mock or aspire to a mega family life, (depending on how you felt about this particular fringe community)  has passed. 

b) even in its heyday, a show about an underemployed couple with 6 kids and a sort-of farm wasn't interesting enough to bring those sweet tv dollars. 

c) With all the inflation and the fact that Carlin (at least) is living the life of Riley, I doubt people are as receptive to "but we're homeless because we love Jesus! Give us a house!"

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Meow Mix
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Here's what really annoys me about Chad and Erin.  They both actually have skills that should have allowed them to take care of themselves financially.  They aren't Jill and Dave Rodrigues who have no

Peanut6711
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Usually just a lurker, but had to chime in and agree that something is fishy.  A fraction of an ovary coupled with the onset of menopausal symptoms, which would suggest that partial ovary was shutting

BitterApple
BitterApple

That set-up is absolutely ridiculous, especially the triple bunk bed. Those poor girls are going to conk their heads every time they sit up. I felt claustrophobic just looking at it. Erin also wasted

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3 is enough

Wow. I guess they are learning that God does not always provide.

I wonder how much they spent fixing up this place? How much the animals cost to feed? Anyone remember that small camper they renovated never to be seen again? They really have made some poor financial decisions over the years. 

I can only imagine how Erin feels watching Carlin in Dubai and Whitney in NYC.

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65mickey

65mickey

I watched that video. They didn't appear to be worried about the next move. I think they have something up their sleeve and are just being coy so they can play the we are just waiting for Jesus to tell us what to do game.  If these were my children I would sit  both of them down and read them the riot act. They have brought 6 children into this world and have no plans as to how to support them.  Erin and Chad are lazy plain and simple.

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BitterApple

BitterApple

9 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Wow. I guess they are learning that God does not always provide.

I wonder how much they spent fixing up this place? How much the animals cost to feed? Anyone remember that small camper they renovated never to be seen again? They really have made some poor financial decisions over the years. 

I can only imagine how Erin feels watching Carlin in Dubai and Whitney in NYC.

Right? Carlin's sipping lattes from the balcony of the W, and Whit took Bradley and Kaci to NYC to see where they filmed Home Alone 2. How badly do you think Erin is kicking herself for refusing to do paid ads, as well as leaving that Boutique? 

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AgathaC

AgathaC

3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Right? Carlin's sipping lattes from the balcony of the W, and Whit took Bradley and Kaci to NYC to see where they filmed Home Alone 2. How badly do you think Erin is kicking herself for refusing to do paid ads, as well as leaving that Boutique? 

She could be kicking herself. But never underestimate the power and “comfort” of self-righteousness. She may very well be congratulating herself that she and her children are not being exposed to such sinful, worldly things and, therefore, guaranteed a spot in heaven. Who needs an actual home and financial security if you’re on God’s good side and worshipping the right Jesus?

Or she’s telling herself that. 😉

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lookeyloo

lookeyloo

2 hours ago, AgathaC said:

She could be kicking herself. But never underestimate the power and “comfort” of self-righteousness. She may very well be congratulating herself that she and her children are not being exposed to such sinful, worldly things and, therefore, guaranteed a spot in heaven. Who needs an actual home and financial security if you’re on God’s good side and worshipping the right Jesus?

Or she’s telling herself that. 😉

That's a good point.  Does anyone think Chad is really stubborn behind the scenes of the videos they issue?  As in, "no you will not" with any idea or suggestion she might come up with?  He seems very placid on what we see, but, who knows.

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BitterApple

BitterApple

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2 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

Does anyone think Chad is really stubborn behind the scenes of the videos they issue?  As in, "no you will not" with any idea or suggestion she might come up with?  

Oh, most definitely. In the beginning of their marriage, Chad catered to Erin, but sometime in the last few years, the script flipped. 

When Erin first started doing YouTube, she had great content. It was a lot of recipes, homemaking, hair and makeup tutorials, practical tutorials on organizing; and she pulled in huge numbers. When they moved to Florida and the videos became more Chad and religion-centered, the numbers have dropped. People want to watch Erin cook. They don't give a shit about Chad making birdhouses.

Also, notable that during their shop's Black Friday sale, Erin's homemade skin cream sold out. Chad's man cards did not. Anyone detecting a pattern here? 

Chad is obsessed with turning every aspect of their lives into a ministry and it's failing, and for whatever reason, Erin's going with it. 

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lookeyloo

lookeyloo

12 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Oh, most definitely. In the beginning of their marriage, Chad catered to Erin, but sometimes in the last few years, the script flipped. 

When Erin first started doing YouTube, she had great content. It was a lot of recipes, homemaking, hair and makeup tutorials, practical tutorials on organizing; and she pulled in huge numbers. When they moved to Florida and the videos became more Chad and religion-centered, the numbers have dropped. People want to watch Erin cook. They don't give a shit about Chad making birdhouses.

Also, notable that during their shop's Black Friday sale, Erin's homemade skin cream sold out. Chad's man cards did not. Anyone detecting a pattern here? 

Chad is obsessed with turning every aspect of their lives into a ministry and it's failing, and for whatever reason, Erin's going with it. 

Interesting. But hasn't she been trained in "the headship" model? So on the surface she would go along with it. And maybe struggle with keeping sweet 

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farmgal4

farmgal4

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Oh, most definitely. In the beginning of their marriage, Chad catered to Erin, but sometime in the last few years, the script flipped. 

When Erin first started doing YouTube, she had great content. It was a lot of recipes, homemaking, hair and makeup tutorials, practical tutorials on organizing; and she pulled in huge numbers. When they moved to Florida and the videos became more Chad and religion-centered, the numbers have dropped. People want to watch Erin cook. They don't give a shit about Chad making birdhouses.

Also, notable that during their shop's Black Friday sale, Erin's homemade skin cream sold out. Chad's man cards did not. Anyone detecting a pattern here? 

Chad is obsessed with turning every aspect of their lives into a ministry and it's failing, and for whatever reason, Erin's going with it. 

I have to believe that the problem is that Chad just doesn’t have one iota of common sense.  

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BitterApple

BitterApple

I think Tikky ditched Alyssa. She wasn't getting the acknowledgment she wanted, so she moved on to a more desperate grifter. The whole situation is so bizarre. It would be one thing if Tikky owned a boutique and she was sending free dresses in exchange for publicity, but she's just some random fan? It's like the anonymous stalker who sent Katie mugs with her kids pictures on them. None of the Bates find this stuff potentially dangerous and problematic? 

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BitterApple

BitterApple

43 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Unless they are just trying to amp up the Youtube clicks what is the big secret about the house. I would think they would say we are staying in Florida or we are leaving Florida and moving to wherever. I wonder is they found another sweet church that they can help.

When they first announced the move to Florida, they talked about the house they were going to be in, and it ended up falling through. The place they're in now wasn't the original plan. My guess is they don't want to look as scattered and irresponsible as they really are so they're waiting to get settled before revealing any details. 

I just watched the video and the Paine family seems pretty miserable right now, Carson especially. Erin could barely muster up any enthusiasm when she was talking to the camera. 

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AgathaC

AgathaC

13 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

Once again, I have to say this is such a waste of potential for these two.  How is it honoring God to not use the gifts you have been given to support yourself and especially the kids you have chosen to bring into this world? I just don't see how they are morally superior for living like this.

They’re not. But their theology is inherently selfish. It’s not about caring for others. It’s not about love and grace. It’s ultimately about what God will do for them. That’s a sign of how “godly” and favored they are. In other words, pretty much the opposite of what Jesus actually said. The Sermon on the Mount isn’t a guidebook. It’s “woke” nonsense.

They’re all about rules. Whoever follows the rules is favored. And the favored are justified in oppressing anyone not favored (foreigners, anyone who doesn’t worship the right Jesus, animals). There s no empathy. No compassion.

In high school, my English teacher used Les Misrrables to demonstrate the levels of moral maturity. People like the Bates/Paynes, et al, are stuck at Javert. They’ll never make it to Jean Valjean.

They are Pharisees, but will never see it.

Rant over.

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BitterApple

BitterApple

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Per their latest video, Erin and Chad found a house. They're staying in Florida. The place is in a regular neighborhood. The house is okay, but they don't have land and looked to be on a busy street. They're keeping their dog and rabbits, but rehoming the goats. None of the kids were remotely excited and had to be badgered into saying something nice about it.

Erin and Chad had hoped to move back to TN, but the two houses they were looking at fell through. The video was filled with Jesus-speak about God opening doors, closing doors, presenting opportunities and telling them to wait. Erin seems really sad underneath the toxic positivity. She spent a portion of the vlog praising Chad's virtues, but you wondered whether she was trying to convince us or herself. 

The move itself was a chaotic mess. Nothing was organized and packed. It seriously looked like they were just stuffing shit into crates because the marshals were coming to evict them the next day. The kids were all over the place and constantly getting in the way. 

Chad said they'll be in a better situation a year from now, and will buy when the market gets better. Sure, Jan... 

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65mickey

65mickey

On what is Chad basing his assumption that they will be in a better situation next year? They have been in Florida what 3 years and they are no better off now than when they moved there.  Erin looked like she was on the verge of tears when they were in the car talking about not getting a house in Tennessee. But of course God will eventually open a door for them. Wonder why he keeps shutting doors? 

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BitterApple

BitterApple

29 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

On what is Chad basing his assumption that they will be in a better situation next year?

That's typical Chad and his magical thinking. Speak it and the Lord will make it happen. Never mind having an actionable plan (i.e., getting licensed, stopping the baby train, maximizing their social media income, etc.). 

 

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

That's typical Chad and his magical thinking. Speak it and the Lord will make it happen. Never mind having an actionable plan (i.e., getting licensed, stopping the baby train, maximizing their social media income, etc.). 

 

Chad's just talking out of his ass, per usual. 🙄

He's a shit provider.

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Heathen

Heathen

15 hours ago, 65mickey said:

On what is Chad basing his assumption that they will be in a better situation next year? They have been in Florida what 3 years and they are no better off now than when they moved there.  Erin looked like she was on the verge of tears when they were in the car talking about not getting a house in Tennessee. But of course God will eventually open a door for them. Wonder why he keeps shutting doors? 

No, they've only been there a year. Isn't that stupid?

Get a real job, Chad. Get a job, Erin. Stop having more children you can't afford. 

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65mickey

65mickey

They moved to Florida in 1-2023. So they have been there just shy of 2 years. How long will they wait on God to open a door and improve their lives? I wonder if these people ever stop to question why God would open a door for them and provide them with a house. How about people living in war torn conditions who have no place to live not even a tent. Parents who watch their children dying every day. Does God not love these people? Why does he love the Paines more? I am sick to death of lazy irresponsible people sitting around waiting for God to give them a better life. 

 

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65mickey

65mickey

Erin is looking rough in the pictures that I have seen recently. I'm sure a lot of this has to be a result of not knowing where and when they will land and how they are going to pay their bills. There is a huge difference between Erin and Josie, Katie and Carlin. They look like they are living the good life in 2025. Whereas Erin looks like a throw back to the 1980's. Plus they know enough not to use their social media for religious proselytizing. Erin is too busy preaching to offer anything of interest for most people who pay attention to the Bates social media. As long as Erin and Chad are locked into believing that Jesus is going to swoop in and rescue them from poverty nothing will change for them. 

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Jeanne222

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Where exactly did this current home come from?  I know it came from God...but who's name is on the title?

I think Chad is thinking prices on homes will continue to come down in the next year.  But then again there's another whole year of rent money gone.

I don't find Erin as attractive as she once was.  Is she older, heavier?  She just doesn't look like she did back in the little Tennessee rental.

I also don't think the men trying to get them packed up and moved enjoyed her narrative.  I found it annoying.

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

6 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Where exactly did this current home come from?  I know it came from God...but who's name is on the title?

I think Chad is thinking prices on homes will continue to come down in the next year.  But then again there's another whole year of rent money gone.

I don't find Erin as attractive as she once was.  Is she older, heavier?  She just doesn't look like she did back in the little Tennessee rental.

I also don't think the men trying to get them packed up and moved enjoyed her narrative.  I found it annoying.

It's been rumored that the house is a rental property of Tori's in-laws. It would certainly make sense. 

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65mickey

65mickey

6 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Is it true that Bobby's opened his own plumbing business in Tennessee?   

Where did this come from? I remember when Kelton brought him into his plumbing company and gave him a job. Bobby was going to train to be a licensed plumber. But Bobby must not have liked getting his hands dirty so be became office manager or something like this. I can't imagine him opening a plumbing business if he is not a plumber. He also has very good benefits with Kelton's company. But maybe he is drinking the Bates kool aid. Throw away a good secure job so you can "work" for yourself. 

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BitterApple

BitterApple

1 hour ago, floridamom said:

Someone stated that the Paines were on the verge of being evicted from their house. How is this true if they needed to be out by the end of December, which they obviously were? Does anyone know anything about this?

I used the word evicted in my previous post, but I meant it jokingly as a reference to how ill-prepared they seemed during those last few days in the house. If they were allowed to stay until the end of the lease, I assume they were paying the rent. 

9 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Is it true that Bobby's opened his own plumbing business in Tennessee?   

I haven't heard anything, but if he did, that's a surprise. Bobby is/was an administrator with Kelton's company. I'm not sure he knows enough about the actual trade to start a business. 

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BitterApple

BitterApple

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Someone in the YouTube comments asked if that was Tori's in-laws' house and I think people ran with it. Maybe the layout and design appeared similar to the Smith's home when it was featured on the show, but it isn't necessarily the same place. If I'm not mistaken the Smiths aren't from the Orlando area. 

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AstridM

AstridM

3 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

That's why I said it was a rumor. Nothing substantiated. I just agreed that the connection makes sense. The Paines were desperate, and trying to call in all favors at the last minute. 

I’ve rented lots of houses and apartments in my life. Do they not know how to find rentals without family help?

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BitterApple

BitterApple

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9 minutes ago, AstridM said:

I’ve rented lots of houses and apartments in my life. Do they not know how to find rentals without family help?

When you rented, I'm assuming you or your partner had a steady job and paystubs to show you could cover the rent. Chad's income is sporadic. He even admitted on one of their last Q&A's that sometimes he's busy and sometimes he isn't. Most landlords aren't willing to take that risk, which is why they rely on family and church friends. 

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65mickey

65mickey

They may not have a credit history. Isn't Chad the one who refuses to buy anything on credit? With no credit history, no steady employment, and 6 kids to support a landlord may feel like they would be taking too big of a chance with the Paines.  I don't get Erin. One would think that she would look at her BFF Tori and see that if Chad had a steady job like Bobby has they might be able to buy a modest home. But they are never going to qualify for a mortgage the way that they are going. 

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