Absolom September 15, 2023 Share September 15, 2023 I may be wrong, but I don't think Gil Bates is as money driven as Jim Bob. I think he's controlling, but in less obvious and demanding ways. He seems to not view the married couples as appendages of the mother ship like JB apparently has either. I think he probably nudges the kids who have stayed near them in Tennessee, but I doubt he's trying to run John and Alyssa's life in Florida. It has probably helped the Bates kids that there is no publicly known sexual abuser in the immediate family and that they didn't end up on a long term TLC contract. I can see Gil meddling or trying to "guide" the married kids, but he doesn't have as much in either carrot or stick to use to force them to agree and follow him. 6 Link to comment
Jeanne222 September 15, 2023 Share September 15, 2023 I’d still like to know the real story about why they lost the show. Of all of them I could see Katie maybe getting a show with her husband. Beautiful baby, singing husband, family’s. Wouldn’t that frost Carlins pumpkin! 1 1 1 6 Link to comment
Meow Mix September 17, 2023 Share September 17, 2023 On 9/15/2023 at 5:27 AM, GeeGolly said: I wonder how, after Shiny Happy People, Josh Duggar, Jinger's book and now Jill's book, G&K and they rest of the Bates are faring? Are they feeling smug thinking its a Duggar thing not a Bates thing? Are G&K thinking its all good if "done right" and the Duggars and others "faltered" in ways they did not? And what about MedicCrap - are the guys talking about this? I can't imagine after all that has gone down in the past few years, it hasn't had some impact on the Bates. Definitely feeling smug. Gil seems like the type who would think that none of his kids would come out against him like Jill has. He probably sends pitying messages to JB and ofJB saying he's praying for them and slipping in some passive aggressive digs along the way. I'm sure he and Kelly kept a good chunk of the show money for themselves, but they didn't get as much from UpTV as JB got from TLC. Also, I doubt he hoarded it all and said the kids could only have access to it when he and Kelly died. Gil is still controlling where he can be, but he has never had the financial ability to keep his kids under his thumb that JB has. So, he probably isn't thrilled to see some of his kids drift away from the strict rules, but he had to adjust to it. JB could keep exerting control, so when that control finally ran out, he lost it. 7 1 Link to comment
BetyBee October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 Kelly looks nice. Gil looks old. Not that there's anything wrong with that! 6 Link to comment
Absolom October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 (edited) The dress is lovely on Kelly and fits well. Now if someone would tell her you don't push the sleeves up on a semi-formal dress. Edited October 14, 2023 by Absolom 8 1 1 2 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 The dress isn't for me but KJ looks great. It only took her, what 10 or 11 weddings? 💃🏽 1 14 Link to comment
Heathen October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 Kelly looks heavily Spanxed, but she looks nice overall. For once, she doesn't have fried, ratty hair. Gil's suit doesn't fit, but oh well. He shopped at Jim Bob's Cheap Men's Suits again. Now bring on the bridal party photos so I can snark. Hopefully Carlin laid off the fundie-Kardashian look. It doesn't flatter anyone, including a fundie or a Kardashian. 5 1 4 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 I assume Josie did Kelly's hair. The navy is a good color for her. I don't think Carlin is in the wedding party, but Layla is a flower girl. 2 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 (edited) Kelly should have done nude or gold shoes. Something about those blue shoes makes me think of a 8yo wearing grown up shoes for the first time. Edited October 14, 2023 by GeeGolly 2 2 Link to comment
BitterApple October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 Wow, date I say it, but Kelly looks nice. The blue color suits her and the dress is flattering. This is a rare moment where she knocked it out of the park. 12 Link to comment
Heathen October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, BitterApple said: Wow, date I say it, but Kelly looks nice. The blue color suits her and the dress is flattering. This is a rare moment where she knocked it out of the park. Think somebody else chose and styled it for her? Josie, maybe. Kelly's hair obviously enjoyed the light touch of a professional. 8 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 I already pegged Josie for Kelly's nice hair. 😁 3 Link to comment
BitterApple October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Heathen said: Think somebody else chose and styled it for her? Josie, maybe. Kelly's hair obviously enjoyed the light touch of a professional. Kelly thanked Miss Renee, so I'm assuming her or one of her staff. People in the bridal industry work with an array of body types and know which silhouettes are most flattering. Josie definitely got ahold of her hair. 4 Link to comment
floridamom October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 Kelly's dress and her hair/makeup look great today. I have to say her shoes do not match; they are a different blue and they are casual flat shoes; also not leather. She needed a semi-formal party shoe to go with her all over lace dress. If she couldn't match the blue, she should have gone for black patent leather shoes with a little heel. Flats just don't go with that nice dress. Yes, I noticed that Gil has aged.....and his suit does not fit as noted above. 7 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, BitterApple said: Kelly thanked Miss Renee, so I'm assuming her or one of her staff. People in the bridal industry work with an array of body types and know which silhouettes are most flattering. Josie definitely got ahold of her hair. Except for the bridal industry supporting Christine Brown Wooley. 🤣 We should do a wedding dress/wedding wear thread for the Bates. 2 2 Link to comment
zenme October 14, 2023 Share October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Kelly should have done nude or gold shoes. Something about those blue shoes makes me think of a 8yo wearing grown up shoes for the first time. Even silver shoes would’ve been nice. She has no sense of style. 8 Link to comment
JAYJAY1979 October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 Kelly looks great...but if she had proper shoes, she wouldn't be Kelly lol. She's to fundie land how Kyle Richard's is to Housewives...no sense of style. 3 2 Link to comment
ozziemom October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 6 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Kelly should have done nude or gold shoes. Something about those blue shoes makes me think of a 8yo wearing grown up shoes for the first time. Saw on Alyssa’s YouTube that KJ ordered those shoes from Amazon. They were delivered to Alyssa’s house a couple days before the wedding. KJ was wondering if the blue shoe would match the blue dress. Kinda late to be asking that. Plus I guess she doesn’t need to wear her new shoes before the day to break them in? 4 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 If KJ already had the dress, why not hold it up next to the sample of the blue shoes to confirm a match? She seems to fly by the seat of her denim skirt on the regular. 4 5 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 Did Kelly think she needed to dress like she was going to an old school prom? The shoes do not need to be the same color as the dress. 1 4 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Did Kelly think she needed to dress like she was going to an old school prom? The shoes do not need to be the same color as the dress. LOL! I never dyed my shoes to match. 2 Link to comment
Notabug October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 22 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Kelly should have done nude or gold shoes. Something about those blue shoes makes me think of a 8yo wearing grown up shoes for the first time. The shoes are a needle scratch. Even if she wanted flats or low heels, there are tons of dressy options these days. She could've even bought sparkly shoe clips to dress up her navy flats and it would've looked better. A few rhinestones would've dressed them up nicely. Amazon has lots of nice options for under 15 bucks. It would've also distracted from the color mismatch with the dress. Also, this wedding happened in Florida, a pair of strappy silver sandals would've been a great choice, too. Weren't dyed-to-match shoes more of a bridesmaids thing back in the '60's? I went to prom in 1975 (yes, I am old) and I guarantee, nobody I knew was wearing dyed to match shoes back then. Heck, back in those days, I had one pair of dressy shoes, they were black and that's what I wore with my off-white prom dress with pastel trim. I didn't know many kids whose parents were going to spend money for both a new dress and shoes. 7 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 Dyed to match was a thing in the late 80s/early 90s. 6 Link to comment
ozziemom October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Notabug said: The shoes are a needle scratch. Even if she wanted flats or low heels, there are tons of dressy options these days. She could've even bought sparkly shoe clips to dress up her navy flats and it would've looked better. A few rhinestones would've dressed them up nicely. Amazon has lots of nice options for under 15 bucks. It would've also distracted from the color mismatch with the dress. Also, this wedding happened in Florida, a pair of strappy silver sandals would've been a great choice, too. Weren't dyed-to-match shoes more of a bridesmaids thing back in the '60's? I went to prom in 1975 (yes, I am old) and I guarantee, nobody I knew was wearing dyed to match shoes back then. Heck, back in those days, I had one pair of dressy shoes, they were black and that's what I wore with my off-white prom dress with pastel trim. I didn't know many kids whose parents were going to spend money for both a new dress and shoes. Yes, the generic blue flats did nothing but distract from the pretty dress. Couldn’t she wear even a small heel? Silver would have been nice but at least she didn’t wear an abomination like the tinman dress. Her hair and makeup was good too. I wonder if Emerson’s mom saw pictures of KJ from prior weddings and hired someone like Josie to do up KJ. I’m not sure Josie had enough time. 2 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 (edited) KJ wore the tinman dress at an early wedding, maybe Zach's? She didn't have a ugly modesty panel sewn in the front, so it was miles better on her. Edited October 15, 2023 by Salacious Kitty Link to comment
Heathen October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 I wonder if Kelly has feet problems -- like plantar fasciitis -- that are worsened by her size and 123 pregnancies. I am NOT criticizing her size. I'm overweight with plantar fasciitis. I wear athletic shoes because anything without support, like flats, just kills me. 5 1 Link to comment
BetyBee October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Heathen said: I wonder if Kelly has feet problems -- like plantar fasciitis -- that are worsened by her size and 123 pregnancies. I am NOT criticizing her size. I'm overweight with plantar fasciitis. I wear athletic shoes because anything without support, like flats, just kills me. Michelle Duggar seems to have foot problems, so maybe the 19 pregnancies have been hard on Kelly's body. She could try Orthofeet - I've bought a few pairs there and they made a huge difference when I had plantar fasciitis. I could finally walk pain free and it got better. I just looked at the site and there weren't any cute for a wedding sandals. But Kelly's dil Tiffany was wearing casual sandals at the wedding. So she could have gotten away with them. I get no support at all from the type of flats Kelly did choose. 1 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty October 15, 2023 Share October 15, 2023 Companies like Spenco and Vionic make ballet flats with orthotics. Granted, they won't cost $15, but you get what you pay for. Get a pair in black and another in cream or white, and she wouldn't have to keep buying cheap shoes she'll only wear once. 7 2 Link to comment
zenme October 16, 2023 Share October 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said: Dyed to match was a thing in the late 80s/early 90s. Yes! In ‘88 my friends and I had dyed to match satin pumps with our prom dresses! So surprised at Kelly, as she always looks like she’s still living in the ‘80s. 3 1 Link to comment
BitterApple October 16, 2023 Share October 16, 2023 Josie posted a bunch of wedding prep reels, and she did do Kelly's hair and makeup. She's very good at her craft, because that's the most put-together I've seen Kelly look at any of the weddings. 14 Link to comment
ozziemom October 16, 2023 Share October 16, 2023 8 hours ago, BitterApple said: Josie posted a bunch of wedding prep reels, and she did do Kelly's hair and makeup. She's very good at her craft, because that's the most put-together I've seen Kelly look at any of the weddings. I’m impressed both with Josie’s work on KJ and that she was able to get herself and her kids ready too. Maybe she has a husband who actually parents his kids? The Balkas flew in very last minute due to doctors appointment so she had an excuse if she wanted. 8 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 16, 2023 Share October 16, 2023 Kelly repeated this blue dress, MOH at Michael's and repeated the dreaded tinman dress, that Michelle also wore to one of her kid's weddings. Josie's wedding. Nathan's wedding. 1 5 2 Link to comment
Jeanne222 October 17, 2023 Share October 17, 2023 Kelly looks really good because she has lost quite a bit of weight! I noticed her weight loss in other videos her daughters did with her recently. 1 Link to comment
BitterApple October 17, 2023 Share October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: Kelly looks really good because she has lost quite a bit of weight! I noticed her weight loss in other videos her daughters did with her recently. That's awesome. Trying to lose weight in middle age sucks. I'm 45 and feel like I gain five pounds just walking by a dessert table. I know Kelly mentioned struggling to stick to a diet so hopefully she's found a regimen that works for her. I know everyone is doing those Ozempic shots, but I hope she didn't go that route. I've read there's a lot of side effects. 6 1 Link to comment
Natalie68 October 17, 2023 Share October 17, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 11:42 AM, Salacious Kitty said: Dyed to match was a thing in the late 80s/early 90s. Yes indeed! Past owner of teal satin pumps. 7 1 Link to comment
3 is enough October 17, 2023 Share October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, BitterApple said: That's awesome. Trying to lose weight in middle age sucks. I'm 45 and feel like I gain five pounds just walking by a dessert table. I know Kelly mentioned struggling to stick to a diet so hopefully she's found a regimen that works for her. I know everyone is doing those Ozempic shots, but I hope she didn't go that route. I've read there's a lot of side effects. Not to mention that Type 2 Diabetics who have a legitimate need for the drug are having a hard time finding it due to shortages. I doubt Kelly is using it. It is pricey even for people with good insurance. 3 3 Link to comment
floridamom October 17, 2023 Share October 17, 2023 Kelly Jo would lose a lot of weight simply by dropping her sweet tea habit. She walks around with it in a large cup most of the time. Perhaps she did give it up. 5 1 Link to comment
Eureka October 18, 2023 Share October 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Natalie68 said: Yes indeed! Past owner of teal satin pumps. Emerald green here! 😆 5 Link to comment
floridamom October 18, 2023 Share October 18, 2023 After seeing those shoes in their boxes, Alyssa should have taken her mother directly to DSW or Macys. Just yesterday I saw numerous sparkly, strappy dressy shoes with low heals and wedgies too. At least they would have gone with such a dressy dress. Kelly's dress was so nice looking but ruined by those shoes. Otherwise, she really looked good. 4 Link to comment
zenme October 18, 2023 Share October 18, 2023 9 hours ago, floridamom said: After seeing those shoes in their boxes, Alyssa should have taken her mother directly to DSW or Macys. Just yesterday I saw numerous sparkly, strappy dressy shoes with low heals and wedgies too. At least they would have gone with such a dressy dress. Kelly's dress was so nice looking but ruined by those shoes. Otherwise, she really looked good. Yes, Dillard’s has some bridal, or mother of the bride, shoes with a comfortable low or flat heel. Heck! If she bought a neutral sparkly black or gold shoe, she could take care of them and reuse them for the multiple weddings sure to happen in the future. 6 Link to comment
GeeGolly October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 KJ did a reel on the heatless curler thing Josie (and a million others) shill. If KJ can do it anyone can. I'm seriously thinking about buying one - likely from Amazon. Have any of you tried it? Link to comment
AstridM October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: KJ did a reel on the heatless curler thing Josie (and a million others) shill. If KJ can do it anyone can. I'm seriously thinking about buying one - likely from Amazon. Have any of you tried it? No, but I’ve read you can just use a robe belt or similar to get the same effect. No need to spend lots of $$ on the ones the Bateses are shilling. Amazon has much cheaper ones also. 1 3 Link to comment
Absolom October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 (edited) Back in the day I knew a couple of people who used old pantyhose. Socks also work depending on the curl you want. As someone noted Josie had to redo the curling as it doesn't always last all day. Edited October 21, 2023 by Absolom 1 3 Link to comment
Notabug October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Absolom said: Back in the day I knew a couple of people who used old pantyhose. Socks also work depending on the curl you want. As someone noted Josie had to redo the curling as it doesn't always last all day. When I was a kid. my mom used to give me 'rag curls' which her mother had done for her as a kid. You take an old bedsheet or similar, tear it into strips and tie each on onto a piece of hair and wrap it. They last for days if done right. The heatless rollers are just a variation on the process. https://www.wikihow.com/Curl-Hair-with-Rags 7 3 Link to comment
AstridM October 21, 2023 Share October 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Notabug said: When I was a kid. my mom used to give me 'rag curls' which her mother had done for her as a kid. You take an old bedsheet or similar, tear it into strips and tie each on onto a piece of hair and wrap it. They last for days if done right. The heatless rollers are just a variation on the process. https://www.wikihow.com/Curl-Hair-with-Rags God forbid the Bates share this with their fans instead of trying to convince them to buy an overpriced version. Many of their fans probably don’t have much money. 6 1 1 Link to comment
Totally October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 I bought the Aldi version of the headless curlers. I have wavy hair and thought I’d get a great result, but I found the curls don’t last at all. I gave it to the op shop after a week 2 2 Link to comment
Jeanne222 October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 Is this Josies product or just something she's promoting? Link to comment
BitterApple October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said: Is this Josies product or just something she's promoting? Josie orders them wholesale and then resells them under the Effortless Beauty label. 1 1 1 Link to comment
BetyBee October 22, 2023 Share October 22, 2023 14 hours ago, Totally said: I bought the Aldi version of the headless curlers. I have wavy hair and thought I’d get a great result, but I found the curls don’t last at all. I gave it to the op shop after a week I think Josie uses a lot of product to make her heatless curls last longer. I tried an Amazon version and ended up giving it to my teen-aged granddaughter. My hair is wavy too, but I'm just not into using a lot of product on my hair. Josie's always looks great, though. 1 Link to comment
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