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[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

She is less attractive than Ariana, and Raquel, but she is an influencer. He is now famous/infamous, and, shocker, other women (probably more famous than Raquel) are approaching him. 

I think she’s gorgeous! Much prettier than Rachel. 
 

Now that he’s seeing someone, Rachel will probably start pursuing him again.

[chlban]

10 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I saw this, and I came to comment. I believe it's over with Raquel. I think it was convenient for Sandoval to have an affair to feel better about himself. Karlee Hale was the woman he was kissing in Austin a few days ago. She is less attractive than Ariana, and Raquel, but she is an influencer. He is now famous/infamous, and, shocker, other women (probably more famous than Raquel) are approaching him. 

Actually this makes total sense. A Famewhore attracted to an influencer. It's a little sad. If you are going to blow up your life and alienate friends, it really should be for some true love you just can't resist. Like Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash. Raquel betrayed a friend, blew up a relationship only to decide, nah, nevermind? Not that I am blaming only her, but the whole thing seems even worse because they didn't stay together. And yes, I know that sounds weird, but there you go.

Edited May 23, 2023 by chlban

[bosawks]

To be fair I think I did read that being in a relationship with Sandoval might soon have it's own DSM diagnosis code......

[Gharlane]

12 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

RAQUEL WHO? Vanderpump Rules’ disgraced Tom Sandoval is now dating Texas influencer Karlee Hale as couple is caught in new photos.

PR machine working hard. Are you influenced

Not really.  I despise "influencers",  who are basically Internet moochers and shills.

[heatherchandler]

22 hours ago, snarts said:

Ariana moved out of their shared home today.

Curious how quickly it'll be sold.  Even if he could afford it keep it on his own, he certainly can't afford to buy her out. Not when he's already leveraged all the equity for his bar. 

We won't see it on the MLS, it'll be a pocket listing with NDAs signed for sure. Way too many lookie loos.

Edited to add: apparently, she did not move out. It was staged, sponsored photo shoot.

This is ridiculous.

https://people.com/ariana-madix-admits-she-faked-moving-out-of-house-she-shares-with-ex-tom-sandoval-7501764?hid=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b&did=9213245-20230523&utm_source=ppl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=people-news_newsletter&utm_content=052323&lctg=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b
 

First of all I saw people online calling her a “Queen” for moving out.  How is she a queen?  Also it’s weird imo that she staged all of this.

[RoseAllDay]

7 hours ago, chlban said:

Actually this makes total sense. A Famewhore attracted to an influencer. It's a little sad. If you are going to blow up your life and alienate friends, it really should be for some true love you just can't resist. Like Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash. Raquel betrayed a friend, blew up a relationship only to decide, nah, nevermind? Not that I am blaming only her, but the whole thing seems even worse because they didn't stay together. And yes, I know that sounds weird, but there you go.

Yes, I can believe this, because I once saw it in action with a coworker/friend of mine years ago. Once the prey is caught, where’s the thrill? My friend was then married to her man about a little over a year, which is just about how long we watching on the sidelines predicted it would last.

[glowbug]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

This is ridiculous.

https://people.com/ariana-madix-admits-she-faked-moving-out-of-house-she-shares-with-ex-tom-sandoval-7501764?hid=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b&did=9213245-20230523&utm_source=ppl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=people-news_newsletter&utm_content=052323&lctg=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b
 

First of all I saw people online calling her a “Queen” for moving out.  How is she a queen?  Also it’s weird imo that she staged all of this.

I was suspicious it was a stunt because she was moving herself and using a U-Haul. There’s no way she won’t hire movers. She has the money and moving is hard. 

Edited May 23, 2023 by glowbug

[Marley]

Why would anyone ever wanna be in a relationship with Sandoval at this point? He’s a well documented douchebag. I’m assuming for attention but is it even good attention. I guess with influencers the type of attention doesn’t really matter lol.

[heatherchandler]

43 minutes ago, glowbug said:

I was suspicious it was a stunt because she was moving herself and using a U-Haul. There’s not way she won’t hire movers. She has the money and moving is hard. 

And she is fully made up for the pictures.

[politichick]

2 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

And she is fully made up for the pictures.

And specifically said she was moving on up, not out.

[dosodog]

Was she moving on up to the Eastside?  To a deluxe apartment in the sky?

I'm singing The Jefferson's theme song in my head now...

[KungFuBunny]

I watched the latest Nick Viall podcast podcast with Charli and Kate Aurthur.

Kate Aurthur said she spoke to Alex Baskin the executive Producer of VPR. He said there is a revelation on Reunion Part 3  which airs June 7th that EVERYONE needs to know before they move forward.

KFB predicts that it will be revealed that Box A Raqcs had sex with Sandoval way before, when she was just a fan of the show. Then she hooked up with James to get on the show 🥸

[Marley]

I think that’s gonna be the reveal too that they were together way before August 2022.

They keep hyping up this revelation tho and sometimes when they hype something so much it’s actually a really lame revelation. Hopefully it’s not like that this time.

[KungFuBunny]

9 minutes ago, Marley said:

I think that’s gonna be the reveal too that they were together way before August 2022.

They keep hyping up this revelation tho and sometimes when they hype something so much it’s actually a really lame revelation. Hopefully it’s not like that this time.

My personal belief is their hookups were happening when she was still with James. She's the type of insecure worm that wouldn't dump a guy unless she already had someone else. She broke off the engagement with James because screwing Tom gave her the confidence and validation to do so.

I totally agree with Lala callng her a dumb demon. Raquel's end game was to be 1/2 of the most popular couple of VPR which was Ariana & Tom. She considered James 3rd tier. She didn't want Tom Schwartz because he and Katie presented as a miserable dysfunctional couple.

It's almost like she thought she'd "replace" Ariana and suddenly become the star couple of VPR.

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

The Bravo Papers podcast discusses Rachel’s Single White Female behavior. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

There’s an interview/podcast, Call Her Daddy, with Ariana that has a lot of new info.

[hoodooznoodooz]

From the Call Her Daddy interview:

 

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, Marley said:

I think that’s gonna be the reveal too that they were together way before August 2022.

They keep hyping up this revelation tho and sometimes when they hype something so much it’s actually a really lame revelation. Hopefully it’s not like that this time.

There is a photo from Raquel's IG I posted recently, with her and Sandoval from Coachella in March 2022. But he told us there were friends for some time...

[Gharlane]

18 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

This is ridiculous.

Ariana Madix Faked Moving Out of House with Ex Tom Sandoval as Brand Admits It Was SponCon 'Stunt'
 

First of all I saw people online calling her a “Queen” for moving out.  How is she a queen?  Also it’s weird imo that she staged all of this.

I became suspicious when I saw her carrying a shoebox labeled "finances".  🤣

12 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I watched the latest Nick Viall podcast podcast with Charli and Kate Aurthur.

Kate Aurthur said she spoke to Alex Baskin the executive Producer of VPR. He said there is a revelation on Reunion Part 3 which airs June 7th that EVERYONE needs to know before they move forward.

KFB predicts that it will be revealed that Box A Raqcs had sex with Sandoval way before, when she was just a fan of the show. Then she hooked up with James to get on the show 🥸

 

[MaggieG]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

From the Call Her Daddy interview:

 

I've never listened to a single episode of Call her Daddy but I listened to the entire 2 hours of this. There was a lot talked about of course, but one of the worse things for me was the conversation where Tom claimed to Scheana she threatened suicide. Ariana says she never said that, she said that if they were to break up this life would be over for her, that she would quit the show and that she would leave LA. She said Tom knew what she meant. 

They also did couples counseling and during one pretty intense session, she thought that it would be done, they would be over. The therapist asked if they would break up and Tom said no.

She thinks a lot of the affair happened at Schwartz and he knows more then he's letting on. 

She said Graham (Raquel's dog) is a terror and not very well trained. He also bit her. She also said she feels Raquel is lost and she never really knew her.

Ariana thinks that the plan was to end the relationship without coming clean about the affair and then act like the Tom/Raquel relationship started after the breakup. 

There was a lot more, this is just some of the points I thought were interesting.

[ZettaK]

25 minutes ago, MaggieG said:

I've never listened to a single episode of Call her Daddy but I listened to the entire 2 hours of this. There was a lot talked about of course, but one of the worse things for me was the conversation where Tom claimed to Scheana she threatened suicide. Ariana says she never said that, she said that if they were to break up this life would be over for her, that she would quit the show and that she would leave LA. She said Tom knew what she meant. 

They also did couples counseling and during one pretty intense session, she thought that it would be done, they would be over. The therapist asked if they would break up and Tom said no.

She thinks a lot of the affair happened at Schwartz and he knows more then he's letting on. 

She said Graham (Raquel's dog) is a terror and not very well trained. He also bit her. She also said she feels Raquel is lost and she never really knew her.

Ariana thinks that the plan was to end the relationship without coming clean about the affair and then act like the Tom/Raquel relationship started after the breakup. 

There was a lot more, this is just some of the points I thought were interesting.

We suspected Schwartz knew more, especially after we found out from Sandoval that he was at his apartment with Raquel. Of course this could have happened relatively recently (the apartment part). 

It's extremely common for individuals to pretend there is something wrong with their current relationship, although they have an affair, end the relationship, and then pretend their next relationship with the cheating partner started after the breakup. I don't doubt Sandoval planned to do this. This way somebody's reputation remains intact, more, or less. He was trying to convince Ariana to break up, but he never told her there was somebody else.

[ZettaK]

James Kennedy bought a house in Burbank.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/8027451/vanderpump-rules-james-kennedy-buys-new-home-los-angeles/amp/

[Jennifersdc]

I listened too. Ariana comes off very well.

She knows for a fact that Sandoval flew Raquel out to NY for the very awkward WWHL with Schwartz. She was in the hotel room.

[Marigold66]

Lord, will Scandoval ever release its grip on me!?  I also had never heard of Call Her Daddy before today and watched the whole thing.  I agree Ariana seems remarkably in tune with her feelings and she articulated what she was going through very well.  I absolutely loved when she said in response to everyone saying "You get 'em how you lose 'em" with "Let's be clear, I didn't lose him.  He lost me".  👏  

It sounds like Tom really gaslit her these last few months with this masterplan of trying to break up with her.  I mean who takes someone out for dinner on their anniversary, then Valentine's Day, goes to couples therapy and still has the gall to say she wasn't giving it her all?  The mind just boggles with how he thought he would get away with it if she hadn't found the phone.  

I loved hearing about how her friends were there for her and that one of them even made a spreadsheet so that they would know which friend would spend the night with Ariana so she was never alone those first couple weeks.  I love friends that will show up for each other like that in their darkest times, no matter what.  And Tom had the gall to come home one time and see all her friends surrounding her and think they were having a "party"?  Ughh the assholishness (is that word?) just has no bounds with that man...

Anyway, I really enjoyed the interview and came away liking Ariana even more.  

[lili45]

On 5/23/2023 at 4:04 PM, heatherchandler said:

This is ridiculous.

https://people.com/ariana-madix-admits-she-faked-moving-out-of-house-she-shares-with-ex-tom-sandoval-7501764?hid=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b&did=9213245-20230523&utm_source=ppl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=people-news_newsletter&utm_content=052323&lctg=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b
 

First of all I saw people online calling her a “Queen” for moving out.  How is she a queen?  Also it’s weird imo that she staged all of this.

It appears to be for a brand sponsorship ?

1 hour ago, Jennifersdc said:

I listened too. Ariana comes off very well.

She knows for a fact that Sandoval flew Raquel out to NY for the very awkward WWHL with Schwartz. She was in the hotel room.

Probably the reason Schwartz kept covering his mouth! He didn’t know what to reveal!

[goofygirl]

On 5/20/2023 at 8:40 PM, FlyingEgret said:

Would Sandoval's seething be more about them having a hit before him, not having to pay for the most extras, or actually being in tune?

ALL of that!

[goofygirl]

On 5/23/2023 at 10:48 PM, KungFuBunny said:

My personal belief is their hookups were happening when she was still with James. She's the type of insecure worm that wouldn't dump a guy unless she already had someone else. She broke off the engagement with James because screwing Tom gave her the confidence and validation to do so.

I totally agree with Lala callng her a dumb demon. Raquel's end game was to be 1/2 of the most popular couple of VPR which was Ariana & Tom. She considered James 3rd tier. She didn't want Tom Schwartz because he and Katie presented as a miserable dysfunctional couple.

It's almost like she thought she'd "replace" Ariana and suddenly become the star couple of VPR.

 

Whoeee!  This chick is delusional, isn't she? Maybe she DOES need to be in a 'mental health facility" for like a year or two!

[princelina]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:26 AM, itsadryheat said:

RAQUEL WHO? Vanderpump Rules’ disgraced Tom Sandoval is now dating Texas influencer Karlee Hale as couple is caught in new photos.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/8181460/vanderpump-rules-tom-sandoval-dating-texas-influencer-karlee-hale/

PR machine working hard. Are you influenced?

I see he's sticking with the mustache and white fingernails 😂

On 5/23/2023 at 5:04 PM, heatherchandler said:

This is ridiculous.

https://people.com/ariana-madix-admits-she-faked-moving-out-of-house-she-shares-with-ex-tom-sandoval-7501764?hid=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b&did=9213245-20230523&utm_source=ppl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=people-news_newsletter&utm_content=052323&lctg=ec43a6d9655feb4f68c41694157e8a0bd9fd795b
 

First of all I saw people online calling her a “Queen” for moving out.  How is she a queen?  Also it’s weird imo that she staged all of this.

Not to me - I've always thought that she was full of shit.

On 5/23/2023 at 11:48 PM, KungFuBunny said:

My personal belief is their hookups were happening when she was still with James. She's the type of insecure worm that wouldn't dump a guy unless she already had someone else. She broke off the engagement with James because screwing Tom gave her the confidence and validation to do so.

I totally agree with Lala callng her a dumb demon. Raquel's end game was to be 1/2 of the most popular couple of VPR which was Ariana & Tom. She considered James 3rd tier. She didn't want Tom Schwartz because he and Katie presented as a miserable dysfunctional couple.

It's almost like she thought she'd "replace" Ariana and suddenly become the star couple of VPR.

The thing that's so surprising to me about her is that as James' girlfriend she really was patient and masterful in orchestrating her move to "most popular girl on the show" status - last season they were gushing about her being "as nice as Brittany"! 😄. She must have at some point believed her own PR and decided to rush it!

On 5/24/2023 at 2:15 PM, MaggieG said:

 one of the worse things for me was the conversation where Tom claimed to Scheana she threatened suicide. Ariana says she never said that, she said that if they were to break up this life would be over for her, that she would quit the show and that she would leave LA. She said Tom knew what she meant. 

Ariana spent all of last season telling anyone who would listen that she was suicidal, so while it was a shitty thing for Tom to say, she started it for "cool points" on the show.

On 5/24/2023 at 6:46 PM, Marigold66 said:

I loved hearing about how her friends were there for her and that one of them even made a spreadsheet so that they would know which friend would spend the night with Ariana so she was never alone those first couple weeks.  

The thing that was interesting to me as a viewer (on the show, not the podcast) was that when Ariana's friends showed up for her, they were strangers - we are supposed to believe that these guys are all such "great friends" but when one of them actually needs her friends they are a lot of people we haven't seen before!  Just a reminder that reality tv isn't reality I guess!

[Jennifersdc]

https://www.salon.com/2023/05/26/vanderpump-rules-tom-schwartz-sandoval/

This is a good one. Excoriates Schwartz. Somebody should send it to him…

[itsadryheat]

What "Vanderpump Rules" cad Tom Sandoval and incels have in common

It's bad enough he cheated on his longtime partner, but it's the language he's using after that's more disturbing   https://www.salon.com/2023/05/25/vanderpump-rules-tom-sandoval-incel/

". . . we realize Tom isn't just a liar, a narcissist or a jerk — he's a bit of an incel too. As we watch Tom convince himself that he is a victim and bring up at every opportunity just how little sex he was having, we learn that the dangerous entitlement and self-victimization that brings extremist incels to murder women already exists within regular men. Tom's logic is warped and his inability to listen to and empathize with his ex-girlfriend of nearly 10 years is more than frustrating and disappointing, it's concerning."

[itsadryheat]

Ariana Madix looks somber as she heads out in LA - as it emerges nemesis Raquel Leviss has 'contacted the FBI after receiving death threats' following Tom Sandoval affair

". . . reports emerged that Leviss and her family have contacted the FBI after receiving the hostile messages, according to TMZ."

"Tom has not reported receiving these kinds of threats."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12129709/Ariana-Madix-looks-somber-heads-LA-amid-Scandoval.html

[ZettaK]

The season finale episode (which exposed Scandoval) had 4.1 million viewers. The Andy Cohen Watch What Happens Live which followed it had the highest ratings in 7 years.

 

https://www.thewrap.com/vanderpump-rules-season-10-finale-ratings-bravo/

[ZettaK]

6 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Ariana Madix looks somber as she heads out in LA - as it emerges nemesis Raquel Leviss has 'contacted the FBI after receiving death threats' following Tom Sandoval affair

". . . reports emerged that Leviss and her family have contacted the FBI after receiving the hostile messages, according to TMZ."

"Tom has not reported receiving these kinds of threats."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12129709/Ariana-Madix-looks-somber-heads-LA-amid-Scandoval.html

I'm sorry, but we are at a point that the situation is becoming dangerous. And Tom is touring without any issues, only the occasional "boo", and a few audience members screaming "Ariana".

[hoodooznoodooz]

Both the Call Her Daddy and The Viall Files interviews are interesting.

Ariana said that Sandoval would ask others to pay for Rachel’s hotel bills with their credit cards. The Randall Scandal said that Randall did that for his extracurriculars, too. 
 

Charli comes across as very likable. 

[Jennifersdc]

12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I'm sorry, but we are at a point that the situation is becoming dangerous. And Tom is touring without any issues, only the occasional "boo", and a few audience members screaming "Ariana".

Unfortunately they are crazy people out there. 

[KungFuBunny]

13 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I'm sorry, but we are at a point that the situation is becoming dangerous. And Tom is touring without any issues, only the occasional "boo", and a few audience members screaming "Ariana".

Sorry, but I don't believe the story.

This just seems like another spin from the PR camp for sympathy.

If Box A Racs is truly in a mental facility, her access to the outside world would be restricted so that she could work on her issues. It's like a person going in because they are being bullied on the internet. You think the facility would allow them access to their social media accounts or emails before they have given the patient the tools to deal with bullying?

If threats were happening - you'd see them at Schwartz & Sandy's which is easily accessible or to the worm who is on stage somewhere - again easily accessible.

How do you get to someone who is at an allegedly secret location/mental health facility?

[KungFuBunny]

Scheananigans with Scheana Shay podcast. Her latest podcast was on with Jax & Brittney called

Rawt in Hail, Sandoval - which I think is hilarious spin of Brittney;s accent

Attaching below:

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by KungFuBunny

[princelina]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Scheananigans with Scheana Shay podcast. Her latest podcast was on with Jax & Brittney called

Rawt in Hail, Sandoval - which I think is hilarious spin of Brittney;s accent

Attaching below:

 

Looks like Brittany did well with her Jenny Craig!

 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Sorry, but I don't believe the story.

This just seems like another spin from the PR camp for sympathy.

If Box A Racs is truly in a mental facility, her access to the outside world would be restricted so that she could work on her issues. It's like a person going in because they are being bullied on the internet. You think the facility would allow them access to their social media accounts or emails before they have given the patient the tools to deal with bullying?

If threats were happening - you'd see them at Schwartz & Sandy's which is easily accessible or to the worm who is on stage somewhere - again easily accessible.

How do you get to someone who is at an allegedly secret location/mental health facility?

Anybody who manages her social media accounts like it's happening with hers right now can see the threats. A person at a medical facility still needs her phone. Her family received threats, as well. Nobody calls the FBI (or claims they did) for fun, and they can face legal repercussions if they do so without a reason. So, I doubt it's PR. 

And it seems that all is directed at Raquel while Sandoval strolls around unbothered, tours, etc.

Edited May 27, 2023 by ZettaK

[glowbug]

3 hours ago, princelina said:

Looks like Brittany did well with her Jenny Craig!

 

I’m pretty sure that’s Ozempic weight loss. 

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Anybody who manages her social media accounts like it's happening with hers right now can see the threats. A person at a medical facility still needs her phone. Her family received threats, as well. Nobody calls the FBI (or claims they did) for fun, and they can face legal repercussions if they do so without a reason. So, I doubt it's PR. 

And it seems that all is directed at Raquel while Sandoval strolls around unbothered, tours, etc.

Raquel and Scheana appeared on WWHL on March 1st. It was right after that Ariana found out about the affair and confronted Raquel via phone. It was then that Raquel confessed to Scheana and apologized. On March 7th, Raquel with the help of her family filed for a restraining order against Scheana. She claimed that Scheana punched her on March 1st. Under normal circumstances you file a restraining order as soon as possible because you think you are in imminent danger. She waited 6 days. A court granted her a temporary restraining order because of Raquel’s physical assault allegations. A court date was set for later for both parties to appear. She did this so that she wouldn’t have to face Scheana at the reunion as the temporary restraining order was in place. Raquel and her family did not show up in court and the charges were dismissed. Convenient how the threat was gone once the reunion was taped. This bothers me – you waste the time of the court system when there are people out there that need TRO’s

It is from the above move that I still think the FBI thing is bullshit and was done by the family, Raquel and the PR group. The timing of this article coming out is to pre-empt and garner sympathy for Raquel. They’re hoping the criticisms will be less harsh as Raquel appears on the reunion with the other cast mates on stage next week and the week after

Do I think it’s a lie that the family and/or Raquel are getting threats – no. Do I think that they lied about contacting the FBI – kind of. I could get the number to the FBI headquarters in my state, call them, and when they answer, I say Jenny? Then the person says maam, this is FBI reception, Then I say oops I dialed the wrong number. So it isn’t a lie for me to say that I called the FBI.

The article is implying that they’ve been in discussions and a full investigation is being launched.

Normally, you’d call the police. They’d send someone to investigate. If they think it is a credible threat they’d contact the FBI for you. They’d be sending cyber experts to track the IP addresses and phone numbers the threats are coming from. You don’t talk to the press about it. This could put you in danger – the perp(s) might escalate and speed track their attack.

Lastly – Tom’s threats should be worse or at least equal to Raquel’s and the fact that that isn’t happening gives me more doubt,

[princelina]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel and Scheana appeared on WWHL on March 1st. It was right after that Ariana found out about the affair and confronted Raquel via phone. It was then that Raquel confessed to Scheana and apologized. On March 7th, Raquel with the help of her family filed for a restraining order against Scheana. She claimed that Scheana punched her on March 1st. Under normal circumstances you file a restraining order as soon as possible because you think you are in imminent danger. She waited 6 days. A court granted her a temporary restraining order because of Raquel’s physical assault allegations. A court date was set for later for both parties to appear. She did this so that she wouldn’t have to face Scheana at the reunion as the temporary restraining order was in place. Raquel and her family did not show up in court and the charges were dismissed. Convenient how the threat was gone once the reunion was taped. This bothers me – you waste the time of the court system when there are people out there that need TRO’s

It is from the above move that I still think the FBI thing is bullshit and was done by the family, Raquel and the PR group. The timing of this article coming out is to pre-empt and garner sympathy for Raquel. They’re hoping the criticisms will be less harsh as Raquel appears on the reunion with the other cast mates on stage next week and the week after

Do I think it’s a lie that the family and/or Raquel are getting threats – no. Do I think that they lied about contacting the FBI – kind of. I could get the number to the FBI headquarters in my state, call them, and when they answer, I say Jenny? Then the person says maam, this is FBI reception, Then I say oops I dialed the wrong number. So it isn’t a lie for me to say that I called the FBI.

The article is implying that they’ve been in discussions and a full investigation is being launched.

Normally, you’d call the police. They’d send someone to investigate. If they think it is a credible threat they’d contact the FBI for you. They’d be sending cyber experts to track the IP addresses and phone numbers the threats are coming from. You don’t talk to the press about it. This could put you in danger – the perp(s) might escalate and speed track their attack.

Lastly – Tom’s threats should be worse or at least equal to Raquel’s and the fact that that isn’t happening gives me more doubt,

Your reasoning is better and more well-thought-out than mine - I just know that claiming "death threats" is the way to find sympathy in 2023, and those claims to the public usually turn out to be BS.  Not that there aren't crazies all over the internet, but I'm talking about real ones that scare people.

Edited May 28, 2023 by princelina

[KungFuBunny]

40 minutes ago, princelina said:

Your reasoning is better and more well-thought-out than mine - I just know that claiming "death threats" is the way to find sympathy in 2023, and those claims to the public usually turn out to be BS.  Not that there aren't crazies all over the internet, but I'm talking about real ones that scare people.

Thank you

I can't change anyone else's opinion, but for me I give the side eye to anything coming out of Camp Raquel

[ZettaK]

15 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel and Scheana appeared on WWHL on March 1st. It was right after that Ariana found out about the affair and confronted Raquel via phone. It was then that Raquel confessed to Scheana and apologized. On March 7th, Raquel with the help of her family filed for a restraining order against Scheana. She claimed that Scheana punched her on March 1st. Under normal circumstances you file a restraining order as soon as possible because you think you are in imminent danger. She waited 6 days. A court granted her a temporary restraining order because of Raquel’s physical assault allegations. A court date was set for later for both parties to appear. She did this so that she wouldn’t have to face Scheana at the reunion as the temporary restraining order was in place. Raquel and her family did not show up in court and the charges were dismissed. Convenient how the threat was gone once the reunion was taped. This bothers me – you waste the time of the court system when there are people out there that need TRO’s

It is from the above move that I still think the FBI thing is bullshit and was done by the family, Raquel and the PR group. The timing of this article coming out is to pre-empt and garner sympathy for Raquel. They’re hoping the criticisms will be less harsh as Raquel appears on the reunion with the other cast mates on stage next week and the week after

Do I think it’s a lie that the family and/or Raquel are getting threats – no. Do I think that they lied about contacting the FBI – kind of. I could get the number to the FBI headquarters in my state, call them, and when they answer, I say Jenny? Then the person says maam, this is FBI reception, Then I say oops I dialed the wrong number. So it isn’t a lie for me to say that I called the FBI.

The article is implying that they’ve been in discussions and a full investigation is being launched.

Normally, you’d call the police. They’d send someone to investigate. If they think it is a credible threat they’d contact the FBI for you. They’d be sending cyber experts to track the IP addresses and phone numbers the threats are coming from. You don’t talk to the press about it. This could put you in danger – the perp(s) might escalate and speed track their attack.

Lastly – Tom’s threats should be worse or at least equal to Raquel’s and the fact that that isn’t happening gives me more doubt,

We discussed the temporary restraining order in this forum, and that Raquel didn't attend the hearing for the temporary RO to become permanent. It doesn't matter when one asks for one, and individuals don't ask for one immediately, so I don't think Raquel was an exception. The court granted it because there was proof it was needed. It's not easy to get one, so this tells me that Scheana attacked her (she didn't deny it, but she claimed she didn't punch Raquel). 

As for the FBI getting involved, the most possible reason is that she received threats from all over the country, online, on social media. 

[ZettaK]

Scheana Shay (and Brock) gave an interview in Australia about a week ago. She said that although there is a rumor that Raquel is pregnant, she doesn't think she is. She believes Raquel's parents will ask her not to participate in the next season of VR. There is also supposedly a secret which is going to be exposed in the third part of the reunion that almost nobody knows about (the cast members), and that producers asked them not to sign up for the new season before the reunion airs. I find this strange because this is circulating the last few days only, and the reunion was filmed on the 23rd of March.

https://realityblurb.com/2023/05/27/scheana-shay-on-what-producers-said-about-pump-rules-reunion-bombshell-why-raquel-will-quit-show-plus-she-addresses-raquel-pregnancy-rumors/

Edited May 28, 2023 by ZettaK

[Jel]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Scheana Shay (and Brock) gave an interview in Australia about a week ago. She said that although there is a rumor that Raquel is pregnant, she doesn't think she is. She believes Raquel's parents will ask her not to participate in the next season of VR. There is also supposedly a secret which is going to be exposed in the third part of the reunion that almost nobody knows about (the cast members), and that producers asked them not to sign for the new season before the reunion airs. I find this strange because this is circulating the last few days only, and the reunion was filmed on the 23rd of March.

https://realityblurb.com/2023/05/27/scheana-shay-on-what-producers-said-about-pump-rules-reunion-bombshell-why-raquel-will-quit-show-plus-she-addresses-raquel-pregnancy-rumors/

I wonder what could be so potentially devastating/line-drawing that the producers are advising them to not sign a contract until they are made aware of it. What could be so life altering that even a famewhore would have to say, “nope, I’m out!” 
Thoughts everyone?

Is this meant to be advice for the entire cast, or is it tact? Like really just directed at Ariana because more Tom scandal is incoming?

[farmgal4]

On 5/17/2023 at 8:06 PM, ZettaK said:

And yes, Sandoval aged fast the last couple of years.

You know what always makes someone age rapidly?  Methamphetamine, so it makes me  wonder if Sandoval has been using it.

Edited May 28, 2023 by farmgal4
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[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Scheana Shay (and Brock) gave an interview in Australia about a week ago. She said that although there is a rumor that Raquel is pregnant, she doesn't think she is. She believes Raquel's parents will ask her not to participate in the next season of VR. There is also supposedly a secret which is going to be exposed in the third part of the reunion that almost nobody knows about (the cast members), and that producers asked them not to sign up for the new season before the reunion airs. I find this strange because this is circulating the last few days only, and the reunion was filmed on the 23rd of March.

https://realityblurb.com/2023/05/27/scheana-shay-on-what-producers-said-about-pump-rules-reunion-bombshell-why-raquel-will-quit-show-plus-she-addresses-raquel-pregnancy-rumors/

If I were Raquel’s parents I’d advise her to not do next season too. She’s not smart enough to pull it off.

[Marigold66]

1 hour ago, Jel said:

I wonder what could be so potentially devastating/line-drawing that the producers are advising them to not sign a contract until they are made aware of it. What could be so life altering that even a famewhore would have to say, “nope, I’m out!” 
Thoughts everyone?

I've been wondering this too.  There's some speculation on social media that the bombshell is that Lisa knew about the scandal way before everyone else and held onto the information but she has vehemently denied this.

[chlban]

1 hour ago, Marigold66 said:

I've been wondering this too.  There's some speculation on social media that the bombshell is that Lisa knew about the scandal way before everyone else and held onto the information but she has vehemently denied this.

I know she has denied it, but that makes some sense. Theoretically, the cast should be so angry at her if she knew that they don't want to be on her show. In reality, not sure if any of these famewhores would actually walk away from it. I have no doubt Raquel's family wants her out, but I still see her sitting outside waiting to be interviewed after her supposed Trauma of being attacked by Sheana. Her family can't make her quit. I don't know what she's making on the show, but it's probably at least as much as she would make n a real job, so I doubt if they are paying her bills.