YaddaYadda November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 But 5x15, well, all bets are off then. What happens in 5x15? MRJ was a regular too, and Neal was the last character I expected to see die if only because of his connection to Rumple, and because the whole show was framed around Rumple's desire to find his son. If Zelena isn't fighting on the side of "good", then I don't think she's long for this. I'm confused on the timeline when Zelena gives birth, when she is with Emma. Or if this is Emma's way of paying her back for what she did in Camelot, and her role in this mess. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1707940
mjgchick November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) Maybe Dark Emma and Zelena have a new deal. I really hope Emma was serious about keeping her safe at least. Fuck Regina and Robin honestly and this is coming from someone who actually like these two together. -_- Eddy's in shipper mode in these interviews Edited November 13, 2015 by mjgchick 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1707958
YaddaYadda November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 I saw the new sneak peek for 5x09. I realize I really, really like Mulan. But not even her can make Merida bearable to me. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708003
daxx November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 Maybe the deal she ends up making with Emma is that Emma will protect her until the baby is born. Oops, my bad, your ready to deliver now. Dark one tricks, dark one lies. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708010
KingOfHearts November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) I saw the new sneak peek for 5x09. I realize I really, really like Mulan. But not even her can make Merida bearable to me. I'm disappointed that we get Mulan back, only to have her reintroduction squandered off with Merida. I'm still dreading the Mulan Rouge storyline because A&E are going to botch it up good. I can already tell it's got nothing to do with the characters and everything to do with, "Wouldn't it be cool if..." Edited November 13, 2015 by KingOfHearts Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708018
mjgchick November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 Adam and Eddy are why we have trust issues. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708034
Rumsy4 November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 Loved the glimpse of Mulan, I fastforwarded to the end of the Sneak Peek to get to her appearance. Can't even with the Zelena baby mess. The writers seem to have forgotten that Red was in Storybrooke at the end of 3B. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708046
KingOfHearts November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 The writers seem to have forgotten that Red was in Storybrooke at the end of 3B. What's another world hop? /sarcasm 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708174
Rumsy4 November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 A surprising face will provide Hook with his lost memories from Camelot, but he’ll discover that it’s not Emma he should be mad at. That seems to negate the memory-return by kiss theory. Why use "face" instead of "person" or "character"? Interesting... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708185
chrisvee November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) This Zelena baby mess is messing with my moral compass. She raped Robin and has been trying to kill everyone. Does she deserve rights to her child or liberty of person? Of course Regina's no prize either when it comes to moral high ground since she's a mass murderer. They can't accelerate that baby birth fast enough for me. Grow it the hell up and have it move to CA so we can all forget about it. Edited November 14, 2015 by chrisvee 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708193
YaddaYadda November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 I know consensus is likely that Zelena returns Hook's memories, but I have doubts. What if it's Rumple that does that with that globe thingy? Or are we talking about a memory potion which Zelena can brew. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708203
FierceAfroChick November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 I think I'm more intrigued by who Hook's going to be mad at. Regina? Arthur? Snowing? Is the person he's going to be mad at and the person who gives him back his memories one and the same? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708472
YaddaYadda November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 I think I'm more intrigued by who Hook's going to be mad at. Regina? Arthur? Snowing? Is the person he's going to be mad at and the person who gives him back his memories one and the same? Himself maybe? If she went down that path to save him, then he'll blame himself for what she did to save him, for leaving her on her own when they got back to Storybrooke, and so on. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708487
Serena November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) He's mad at the Nevengers because Emma had to do what she did because they were all "Just let him die, IDC"? Edited November 13, 2015 by Serena Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708519
KingOfHearts November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) According to that phone, does Hook's dad work at Storybrooke Junkyard? Getting a shave could be part of the curse. Maybe he's so ashamed of whatever happened or so fearful of what his son might think that he just never introduced himself. It appears Hercules may have a Storybrooke counterpart as well? Edited November 13, 2015 by KingOfHearts Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708760
Serena November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 Aren't they still in Hellbrooke? Or is the broken clock tower in the real SB? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708787
YaddaYadda November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 According to that phone, does Hook's dad work at Storybrooke Junkyard? Getting a shave could be part of the curse. Maybe he's so ashamed of whatever happened or so fearful of what his son might think that he just never introduced himself. I don't know that Hook's dad works in a junkyard as much as Underworld!Storybrooke (which I will start calling USB for short) has a lot of torched cars, including Emma's bug. Plus, he's a very spiffy junkyard worker. He's wear a tie and a vest. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708788
KingOfHearts November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) Plus, he's a very spiffy junkyard worker. He's wear a tie and a vest. Maybe he owns the place? I don't know that Hook's dad works in a junkyard as much as Underworld!Storybrooke (which I will start calling USB for short) has a lot of torched cars, including Emma's bug. I'm just getting confused between Underbrooke and SB already. Right now I'd go with either one, as where these scenes are taking place. They could be set in normal Storybrooke or in flashbacks. Kacey Rohl has been cast as Megara, They're going really young with those two. I'm surprised we're getting Hercules and Megara before Aladdin and Jasmine. Edited November 13, 2015 by KingOfHearts Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708810
CatMack November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 Ooooh daddy Hook is sticking around after all. Well, at least more than one ep. Very interesting. I'm glad all that delusional speculation wasn't for nothing. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1708983
LizaD November 13, 2015 Share November 13, 2015 (edited) Maybe Herc and Megara are baby Snowflake and baby Green from the future or got hit by some of that rapid aging magic. Is Hook's daddy Charon? Maybe he's transporting the EF crew via a torched Emma's bug. I'd love to see all of them squeezed in there. Edited November 14, 2015 by LizaD 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709031
mjgchick November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 Oh Meg and Herc are a lot younger than I thought. She looks like a baby. Something tells me Meg and Herc won't be on for long. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709154
Hookian November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) Aren't they still in Hellbrooke? Or is the broken clock tower in the real SB? They're still in the Underworld and Colin filmed today with "guests" and I'm sure it's his father. I knew his father would be recurring in 5B. Edited November 14, 2015 by Hookian 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709227
Spartan Girl November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I thought Hercules would be a bit more buff. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709230
Hookian November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 Oh Meg and Herc are a lot younger than I thought. She looks like a baby. Something tells me Meg and Herc won't be on for long. They'll be there for the half season arc IMO. Paralleling CS. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709255
HoodlumSheep November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So according to that Leanne article, we've met/seen who gave Hook the ring before? Assuming he had it before he went to Neverland (and thus, the person would have to be quite old too): Milah, Baelfire, Smee, Blue Fairy, Merlin, Pan, Nimue, Mickey...am I missing anyone else who's as old as/older than Hook? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709261
Hookian November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So according to that Leanne article, we've met/seen who gave Hook the ring before? Assuming he had it before he went to Neverland (and thus, the person would have to be quite old too): Milah, Baelfire, Smee, Blue Fairy, Merlin, Pan, Nimue, Mickey...am I missing anyone else who's as old as/older than Hook? I think it's Merlin. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709269
Katherine November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So according to that Leanne article, we've met/seen who gave Hook the ring before? Assuming he had it before he went to Neverland (and thus, the person would have to be quite old too): Milah, Baelfire, Smee, Blue Fairy, Merlin, Pan, Nimue, Mickey...am I missing anyone else who's as old as/older than Hook? Liam? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709271
HoodlumSheep November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 ^ how could I forget Liam? Sorry Liam! Also Zoso. There. I think I've listed all possible characters as old as or older than Hook (and therefore could have previously owned the ring). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709286
Hookian November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) If it was Merlin Hook would be able to recognize him though, since he didn't age. Hmm it could be the Apprentice aka Yensid, when the apprentice was younger. Edited November 14, 2015 by Hookian Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709293
Rumsy4 November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I'm not sure if AD was filming, unless he is Charon, and Hades has a strict shaving policy for his boatman. heh However I am happy that A&E are still planning to have a Killian flashback in 5B. I'm guessing Liam gave Killian the ring, Unless it was Papa Jones, and A&E are psyching us with a technicality over us having seen the hooded Charon figure in 5.02. I couldn't help laughing at how little scoop there was about SQ in that article. Poor Leanne had better be prepared for some backlash. I ho-humed at A&E still teasing Rumbelle angst. Whatever writers, we know Belle will always take him back. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709314
HoodlumSheep November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) Hmm it could be the Apprentice aka Yensid, when the apprentice was younger.You mean Mickey, the Apprentice? I know it's an unofficial name, but he's based off of Mickey in Fantasia (remember when he was turned into the mouse and was involved with the Fantasia hat?).I'll guess merlin or a younger Apprentice (who should be (or was) around 500 yrs old). Edited November 14, 2015 by HoodlumSheep Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709371
OnceUponAJen November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) Could Pan or Tink have given Hook the ring? Pan was suggested, I see! Ummm....Ariel, Ursula, or Neptune? Edited November 14, 2015 by OnceUponAJen Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709376
HoodlumSheep November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I don't think it'd be Pan, just because Hook's close-calls with death seemed to start before that (like when Rumple was going to off him right after their sword fight and Milah interrupted). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709384
YaddaYadda November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So according to that Leanne article, we've met/seen who gave Hook the ring before? Assuming he had it before he went to Neverland (and thus, the person would have to be quite old too): Milah, Baelfire, Smee, Blue Fairy, Merlin, Pan, Nimue, Mickey...am I missing anyone else who's as old as/older than Hook? So I'm sure he wouldn't give Emma a ring that was given to him by his ex, because seriously, what woman wants that, and what idiot would do that? I'm going to stick to my guns on this one, that they're also introducing his mother, whom we've met in 5x07. The parallel with Snowing fits. She's the original Dark One, created the monster, the one he said had taken too much from him already. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709388
LizaD November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I'm guessing Merlin cause the dude has some serious bling on his fingers too. He could've removed the memories. Also because Jacob-Merlin visited Sawyer-Hook as a kid when his parents died, err ran away and abandoned Hook. And someone said there's a flower on the ring and with all that cgi Middlemist flower stuff, seems fishy. Unless it was Papa Jones, and A&E are psyching us with a technicality over us having seen the hooded Charon figure in 5.02. But this sounds like something right up A&E's alley of trolling. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709408
Mathius November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 What happens in 5x15? Don't have a clue, I was making a joke in reference to Neal being a regular and dying in 3x15. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709533
KAOS Agent November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So it's interesting that it has been confirmed more Ruby & Mulan in 5B. That seems to imply that they aren't staying in the Underworld for the entire arc. It wouldn't be them in flashbacks either because the references were to their growing relationship which would be in the present. I'm also really not feeling the very young looking new guest stars. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709702
Rumsy4 November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 So why is Hercules wearing modern clothes? Or are these rehearsal pictures? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709909
retrograde November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I was thinking the same thing, but it seems to be actually filming. And that's the fallen clocktower in the background, so not regular Storybrooke. Maybe hell came to Storbrooke, rather than the other way around...? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709952
Souris November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) Marian Cora Mills-Hood Marian Cora Nealina! So it's interesting that it has been confirmed more Ruby & Mulan in 5B. That seems to imply that they aren't staying in the Underworld for the entire arc. It wouldn't be them in flashbacks either because the references were to their growing relationship which would be in the present. Not necessarily. We could get a separate storyline of what's going on in SB while the rest are in the UW. Or they aren't actually in the UW at ll and the UW has come to Storybrooke. So why is Hercules wearing modern clothes? Yes. My first questions were 1) Why do Meg & Herc look like teenage runaways? and 2) Why is Herc wearing a cable knit sweater and padded vest? Edited November 14, 2015 by Souris Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1709980
Rumsy4 November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I was thinking the same thing, but it seems to be actually filming. And that's the fallen clocktower in the background, so not regular Storybrooke. Maybe hell came to Storbrooke, rather than the other way around...? But Megara is ihn Fairy Tale costume. I hope Hercules hasn't been in Storybrooke all along. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710023
scenicbyway November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 I wonder if the surprising source Killian gets his memories back from is Zelena. Perhaps they come back in the scene where he's clutching his heart as she performs the spell with Excalibur? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710024
KingOfHearts November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) More filming pictures with Ginny and Jonathan. So Snow is Philoctetes? Hook's father (Charon) being the previous ring owner The fact one of the writers wanted us to ask who was in the boat means his identity is important. My money is on it being Hook's father as well. Edited November 14, 2015 by KingOfHearts Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710029
Mathius November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 The funny thing is that Herc and Meg ARE the right age, the movie starts with Herc as a baby and the Fates prophecize about what would happen in the present day saying "in 18 years precisely". So they are 18 years old in the movie too, the character designs just look much older for some reason. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710094
PixiePaws1 November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 How freaking good is it to see Snow with a bow in her hand! Forget the ring and the sword ....I am hoping that bow has the magical power to bring kick arse Snow back..I think she got left behind at the beanstalk and just found a way back ! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710105
mjgchick November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 How freaking good is it to see Snow with a bow in her hand! Forget the ring and the sword ....I am hoping that bow has the magical power to bring kick arse Snow back..I think she got left behind at the beanstalk and just found a way back ! Nah she seemed pretty bad ass during Neverland. The Hercules movie really did screw up how I saw 18 year old Meg and Herc. Also Hollywood in general who enjoys hiring 30 year olds to play 16. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710148
kitticup November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) So I'm sure he wouldn't give Emma a ring that was given to him by his ex, because seriously, what woman wants that, and what idiot would do thatWe are talking about A&E who think Harold and Maude is an acceptable first date movie for young teens.I just had a totally random idea. What if the ring was given to him by one spinster women who took in young Rumple. I always thought they seemed like the fates. They would have weaved Kiliian and Rumple together. I know this a total long shot. Edited November 14, 2015 by kitticup Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710229
Hookian November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 Hmm I'm betting that pic Adam tweeted was him in studios filming for 13. That propane tank in the background looks very familiar and we've seen it in UB filming pics. They really want to make sure that Colin's filming stays in doors at least as much as they can possibly control it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710314
OnceUponAJen November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) The fact one of the writers wanted us to ask who was in the boat means his identity is important. My money is on it being Hook's father as well.Now that would be a twist. I never anticipated Charon being anyone other than Charon. That would make it likely that the ring came from him, wouldn't it?It makes sense in a perverse sort of way....boat, water, etc.! Edited November 14, 2015 by OnceUponAJen Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710352
RadioGirl27 November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 (edited) They're still in the Underworld and Colin filmed today with "guests" and I'm sure it's his father. I knew his father would be recurring in 5B. Neither Colin nor Adam were on Stevenson yesterday. The longer they are in the UW, the less Colin we are going to get. I think we should start preparing for it. It doesn't matter if next arc is a "save Hook" mission, the important part is going to be the rescue party (that includes Regina, Rumple, Emma and, it seems, Hercules and Megara), not the missing person. This kind of stories are always told from the point of view of the person doing the rescue, not from the point of view of the rescued person. So I'm sure he wouldn't give Emma a ring that was given to him by his ex, because seriously, what woman wants that, and what idiot would do that? It's A&E, I wouldn't rule that out just yet. The fact one of the writers wanted us to ask who was in the boat means his identity is important. My money is on it being Hook's father as well. Not necessarily. Maybe he just wanted us to know that they were destroying, I mean, bringing Greek Mythology next. Edited November 14, 2015 by RadioGirl27 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1910-spoiler-discussion-the-apple-was-poisoned/page/364/#findComment-1710415
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