Spoilers and Spoiler Discussion

[adora721]

11 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said:

They used a real life issue (racism/homophobia) and applied it here to a straight, white woman. So much tone deafness.

These writers think that centering the issue on a white woman will somehow cause the audience to have a light bulb moment of empathy for at-risk groups because of Killer Frost. The irony is that the audience already empathizes with Cait and Killer Frost because they are from the majority culture. So, I think they missed the mark by several miles here.

And it wasn't like Cait or KF was treated the way discriminated groups are treated - no kneeling on her neck, no trampling her rights, she lived to have her day in court instead of being shot dead on sight, did anyone even ruffle a hair on her head during the arrest? I don't think so. And she's guilty. Innocent members of at-risk groups don't get anything near the kind treatment, deference, or ability to request their own prison sentence like KF did. 

I think of Kalief Browder, who was held at Rikers Island jail without trial for allegedly stealing a backpack and was in solitary confinement for two years. There he was subject to prison violence. After the charges were dropped and he was freed, he ended his life. Now, that's a martyr, not Killer Frost.

Edited May 7, 2021 by adora721

[Starry]

18 hours ago, Trini said:

That's the speculation; there's been nothing to confirm that yet. I think it would be weird - and disappointing - if he left mid-season. But it's possible.

I've given up guessing about Panabaker leaving; even a baby, and a pandemic, and working in a different country playing two characters aren't stopping her from being in all the episodes in her contract!

I think they said that Cisco is in the finale but it's likely that he's leaving in 7x12.

I never thought the baby and the pandemic would push DP out the door but the way she's been phrasing some things lately made me believe her time was up.

 

17 hours ago, adora721 said:

I still hold out hope that Cait and DP will exit after season 7. She's probably not leaving until the finale; they wouldn't announce it now. I still believe Cisco's greatest fear and his words, "It can't end like this" are about Cait. 

Deadline said that Candice, JLM and DP are all negotiating new deals to return. Maybe she'll drop to recurring but she'll be back.

By the way, I don't care if Caitlin/Frost is on the show. Her storylines are always a distraction from the main arc of the season but my biggest problem is that she's a constant reminder of how racist the writing is.

 

7 hours ago, Trini said:

They say "Barry and Iris", but I'm assuming it's a team effort.

So the one time Barry and Iris get the A-plot together the entire team is involved? Eric keeps failing me.

 

7 hours ago, Trini said:

I hope Barry & Iris' conversation about potential children (the Grant mentioned) is in this two-parter somewhere, especially with that title.

I actually wondered if Barry and Iris were out of town in 7x14 (like DP teased) because they were on a baby-making vacation. It's probably not the case but it would be nice if more TV writers remembered that most couples don't have surprise babies.

[Trini]

There are paparazzi photos of the Jordan in the Impulse suit out now, so I expect an official photo to be released soon-ish.

[Trini]

I generally try to avoid set photos, but those latest ones are everywhere. I continue to be amazed at how unimaginative the hair team is on this show; they've got Nora (XS) in the exact same wig. Would have been nice if they changed it up a little (a little!) to show it's not the same Nora.

[Trini]

Photos for 7.10 are out: https://flashtvnews.com/flash-family-matters-photos-released/45127

So far, Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, and Alexa in the Speed Lab.

Not liking some of these clothes choices for Cisco. I don't think he'd ever wear grey on grey, outside of a funeral.

[BeautifulFlower]

The rumors are true. Cisco does leave in 7x12

That's why they announced his departure a while back because his episode was coming up. I don't like how the person who writes these things wrote "OG Team Flash". That gives fuel to the people who like to say there's an OTF with just those 3.

[Trini]

It's just sad that Cisco/Carlos is leaving mid-season. We'll see what the next 3 episodes bring, but so far his exit story doesn't seem very compelling -- he's just leaving. But I suppose a 'boring' exit is better than getting killed off, or not having an exit story at all (Wally, Season 4).

I've actually always wanted to see Rainbow Raider again (although, didn't Cisco choose the name 'Prism' instead?), so I'll take a new version. I hope they do something creative with her powers, so it's not just the same as last time.

 

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"Good-Bye Vibrations" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG) (HDTV)

CISCO LEAVES CENTRAL CITY -

Cisco (Carlos Valdes) and Kamila (guest star Victoria Park) tell the team they are leaving Central City. However, Barry (Grant Gustin), Iris (Candice Patton) and Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker) don't have much time to digest the news because a new version of Rainbow Raider (guest star Jona Xiao) strikes and OG Team Flash must join together one final time to save the city.

Philip Chipera directed the episode written by Kelly Wheeler & Jeff Hersh (#712). Original airdate 6/1/2021

 

[Starry]

19 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said:

The rumors are true. Cisco does leave in 7x12

That's why they announced his departure a while back because his episode was coming up. I don't like how the person who writes these things wrote "OG Team Flash". That gives fuel to the people who like to say there's an OTF with just those 3.

The description makes it sound like Iris is a part of OTF but DP talked about Barry, Cisco and Caitlin scenes. I don't know how it's going to play out but it doesn't really matter. OTF died when Eobard got exposed and with Cisco leaving there's no point in being hung up on this OTF concept anymore.

Didn't they say that Cisco is in the finale though? That's his goodbye episode but not his final one.

[BeautifulFlower]

2 hours ago, Starry said:

The description makes it sound like Iris is a part of OTF but DP talked about Barry, Cisco and Caitlin scenes. I don't know how it's going to play out but it doesn't really matter. OTF died when Eobard got exposed and with Cisco leaving there's no point in being hung up on this OTF concept anymore.

Didn't they say that Cisco is in the finale though? That's his goodbye episode but not his final one.

Yeah, his departure announcement said he will appear in the finale. He leaves in 7x12 and won't appear for 5 episodes. I wonder what will make him come back for one last time in the finale.

[Trini]

BTS photos of the 150th episode at director Eric Dean Seaton's instgram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CO54SWNh1J6/

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ericdeanseaton

What a rush, what a run, what a wonderful #directorslife time that was the 150th episode of @cwtheflash We introduced Impulse and paid tribute to all the great episodes that came before this. So here is a big giant THANK YOU to some really wonderful people who are the reason this series has been so amazing since day one! @grantgust @candicepatton @dpanabaker @daninicolet #JesseLMartin #CarlosValdes @mrmcknight @Cavanaghtom @kaylacheriecompton @heybvp @jparkerk3 @jordanfisher @CarmenMoore1 @Johnwesleyshippjr @michellenharrison #EricWallace @quitworkandwrite @danidorny #LaurenBarnett #GabrielGarza #JPFinn #BrentonSpencer @buntone @suchthecharmed1 @gberlanti @sarahsowitty, guest cast, crew, special effects team, the amazing stunt team, producers, visual effects team and writers. #DreamingAwake #TheFlash @thecw @dccomics #dccomics @warnerbrostv

 

So it looks like Kramer still plays a part in the latter part of the season; and Joan Garrick appears again. Also a scene in a church, with the Flash.

 

ETA:

Also Jordan might have revealed Bart's age (although we already knew he was a teen): https://www.instagram.com/p/CO4JW6KHQRH/

jordanfisher

just over here tryna pull off 19 as long as possible

Edited May 16, 2021 by Trini

[cambridgeguy]

On 5/15/2021 at 11:56 AM, BeautifulFlower said:

Yeah, his departure announcement said he will appear in the finale. He leaves in 7x12 and won't appear for 5 episodes. I wonder what will make him come back for one last time in the finale.

There's always the usual catastrophe threatening the city/world.  Barry can run back in time to snag Wells and we've seen him snatching poor Diggle up (without warning), so there's no reason he can't just grab Cisco for a consult. I'm really interested to see what they have Cisco end up doing.  Right now he's got access to cutting edge tech, virtually limitless resources, gets to make his own hours, and is his own boss.  Unless they make him the head of a giant lab overnight (like Wells or Christina McGee) he has nowhere to go but down professionally.

[Trini]

3 hours ago, cambridgeguy said:

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I'm really interested to see what they have Cisco end up doing.  Right now he's got access to cutting edge tech, virtually limitless resources, gets to make his own hours, and is his own boss.  Unless they make him the head of a giant lab overnight (like Wells or Christina McGee) he has nowhere to go but down professionally.

Respectfully disagree. I think he has nowhere to go but up. STAR Labs/Team Flash is fun and intellectually challenging, but seven (7!) season in, we still don't know if anyone is getting paid to hang out there/save the world. Barry & Iris are the owners/leaders, even though I'd consider Cisco a partner rather than employee. He does have a consulting gig with CCPD, but I think he could be more; like the CEO of a company that develops and sells all that bleeding edge tech. Or maybe even keep things in the comic book realm by having him a part-time hero while being the tech guy/consultant for [insert superhero team here].

 

[sholmes]

What are the possibilities that CW will fix the story of the Flash to align with the comics by giving us fans the Tornado Twins? Stepping away from Flash, should Bat-Woman have a side-kick like DC's Bat-Girl (aka: Bette Kane), Bat-Wing (aka: Luke Fox), or a pet like Bat-Dog?

[Starry]

I don't think the show will ever give us the Tornado Twins. It seems pretty clear that they want XS and Impulse to be Barry and Iris' children. IMO Nora and Bart are not even twins but an older sister and younger brother combo.

As for Cisco, they should fan service those of us who've been waiting for him to found Ramon Industries. It doesn't need to happen right away but by the end of the series, I need to know that Cisco has become a wealthy businessman.

 

[Trini]

The Twins, or XS and Impulse, cannot get here fast enough. I've got one thing to look forward to:

 

I wonder if this is for a scene, or a photo shoot for prop photos?

[shantown]

9 hours ago, Trini said:

I wonder if this is for a scene, or a photo shoot for prop photos?

I don't even care, this photo has me so excited!! I cannot WAIT for an official Barry/Bart/Nora/Iris photo!!

[Trini]

Photos for 7.11, are out: https://flashtvnews.com/flash-family-matters-part-2-photos-released/45143

No photos of Iris (again) even though she's supposed to be in the A-plot. All, so far, are of Barry, Cisco, and Chester from one scene in the Speed Lab.

[shantown]

Putting this here not social media in case people are trying to stay unspoiled on his suit, but Jordan Fisher posted a behind the scenes photo:

[Trini]

It's a better pic than the official poster. It's fine, but I still need to see it in action. I like that the white is silvery. The painted nails are a choice.

Also with the photo, CW released the episode title:

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Bart will team up with his sister, Nora/XS (Jessica Parker Kennedy), as well as his parents for “Heart of the Matter, Part 1,” the 150th episode of The Flash. 

 

So... Nora II (2)? It's gonna be weird; she's going to be the 4th Nora on the show.

[Trini]

7.11 preview clip with Frost and Chillblaine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdS3KA265sg

Ugh - why would they choose this to promote the climax of the Forces arc?? And they're still trying to make FrostBlaine a thing?? Why is this subplot even in this episode (if it has to exist at all)? The dialog is kinda -meh- and the actors aren't really selling it. If this was Earth-2 Killer Frost it might have worked, but Panabaker just sounds like another version of Caitlin; but that's on the writing also.

Well, at least I've been warned and I know what to skip.

[BeautifulFlower]

1 hour ago, Trini said:

7.11 preview clip with Frost and Chillblaine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdS3KA265sg

Ugh - why would they choose this to promote the climax of the Forces arc?? And they're still trying to make FrostBlaine a thing?? Why is this subplot even in this episode (if it has to exist at all)? The dialog is kinda -meh- and the actors aren't really selling it. If this was Earth-2 Killer Frost it might have worked, but Panabaker just sounds like another version of Caitlin; but that's on the writing also.

Well, at least I've been warned and I know what to skip.

I'm not gonna watch that clip. So give it to me straight. Are they out of prison?

[Trini]

9 minutes ago, BeautifulFlower said:

I'm not gonna watch that clip. So give it to me straight. Are they out of prison?

Yes. Chillblaine says he broke out, but there isn't really an explanation for Frost in that scene; although Chillblaine assumes she broke out also.

Another clip, Joe and 'plot spackle' Allegra giving him a pep talk; someone has it on twitter, I couldn't find the original clip:

https://twitter.com/SegaviaIsabella/status/1397220728232108043

 

[Trini]

Info on the crossover-type 'event' that will start off Season 8:

https://deadline.com/2021/05/the-flash-5-season-8-premiere-event-will-crossover-riverdale-season-6-the-cw-fall-2021-1234763878/

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This fall, the CW is bringing together for the first time on the same night its signature, most streamed series, The Flash and Riverdale. Both series will start their new seasons (Season 8 for The Flash, Season 6 for Riverdale) with special five-episode events, which will kick off in November, about a month after the CW starts rolling out its fall lineup in October.

During a press call about the fall 2021 schedule on Tuesday, the CW chairman and CEO Mark Pedowitz noted that event-izing applies specifically to The Flash, whose first five episodes next season “will feature different heroes from the CW-verse.”

“The idea for The Flash is, [showrunner] Eric Wallace and [executive producer] Greg [Berlanti] have come together and are talking about other superheroes from the CW-verse who will come together in each individual episode,” he said. “It will not be quite be a crossover but will have a crossover-type feel and the introduction of all these characters.”

https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-season-8-event-episodes/

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Pedowitz didn't say which actors would visit The Flash in November. "I'll let you have those conversations with Eric Wallace," Pedowitz told EW on the call. "We do know that there are a couple feelers out to a couple of the actors, but we have no definitives yet."

 

[Trini]

Jordan dropped another suit photo:

 

[Trini]

Tiny bit more info on the Diggle "crossover" this season:

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We find John Diggle as a co-leader in ARGUS with his wife. He's going to Gotham, Smallville, and National City as an ARUGS leader. That's his day job. But he's hearing voices; he has debilitating headaches. And he's hiding them from the other members of the Arrowverse shows, who he's helping as an ARGUS member. So he's coming there with a purpose, but he's also hiding something. The more we tell the story, the more we begin to hear what these voices are, particularly on The Flash.

https://ew.com/tv/arrowverse-david-ramsey-green-lantern-superman-legends/

[BaggythePanther]

9 hours ago, Trini said:

Info on the crossover-type 'event' that will start off Season 8:

https://deadline.com/2021/05/the-flash-5-season-8-premiere-event-will-crossover-riverdale-season-6-the-cw-fall-2021-1234763878/

https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-season-8-event-episodes/

 

At first I read this as saying Flash and Riverdale would have a crossover and I was very confused. The only other heroes I’m interested in seeing on the Flash are Kara and Jefferson and I doubt that’ll happen since Black Lightning and Supergirl end this season. Also they need to stop trying to make CW-verse happen. It’s not going to happen.

[BeautifulFlower]

8 hours ago, BaggythePanther said:

At first I read this as saying Flash and Riverdale would have a crossover and I was very confused. The only other heroes I’m interested in seeing on the Flash are Kara and Jefferson and I doubt that’ll happen since Black Lightning and Supergirl end this season. Also they need to stop trying to make CW-verse happen. It’s not going to happen.

Arrow ended last year, yet Diggle is appearing on 5 shows. It is entirely possible for Kara and Jefferson to show up.

[Starry]

They've already reached out to Cress Williams so I wouldn't be surprised if Jefferson showed up.

[Trini]

Update from J.W. Shipp: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPV1KZPLuku/

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johnwesleyshippjr

Verified

#SneakPeak 🤫 #theflash Season 7 finale shoots TODAY! Be sure to jump in right away Tuesday’s at 8pm only on @thecw so you’ll be ready 😲♥️⚡️☄️ @michellenharrison 🌹

3h

 

[Trini]

And Danielle Nicolet posted this photo of her and Kayla, but I'm not sure if it's from an upcoming Flash episode or not:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPPaEBlN36q/

 

[ETA:] It's not for the Flash.

Edited June 1, 2021 by Trini

[Trini]

7.13 synopsis:

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"Masquerade" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, V) (HDTV)

CECILE IS TRAPPED - Cecile (Danielle Nicolet) is forced to confront her past in order to break free from a psychic prison. Meanwhile, Chester (Brandon McKnight) takes over for Cisco but makes a mistake that puts Barry (Grant Gustin) in serious danger. Joe (Jesse L. Martin) investigates Kristen Kramer's old military ties and discovers an unsettling truth.

Rachel Talalay directed the episode written by Sam Chalsen & Christina M. Walker (#713). Original airdate 6/15/2021.

 

Seems like this one focuses on the supporting characters, so it might be Barry and Iris -lite.

Which Flash villains have psychic powers? Is Psych back? I'm assuming the Cecile and Chester plots are connected.

[legaleagle53]

1 hour ago, Trini said:

Which Flash villains have psychic powers? Is Psych back? I'm assuming the Cecile and Chester plots are connected.

Or maybe this is a delayed side effect of Bashir's attack, in which case Barry would have to call upon Bashir from the Speed Force for help?

[Starry]

Barry and Iris are "out of town" in 7x14 and this one focuses on the supporting characters? I hope Iris is involved in the B-plot but I am not holding my breath.

[Trini]

From Carlos' TVLine interview:

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TVLINE | Previewing your final episode (airing Tuesday, June 8), did you like that it was a bit goofy and you got to do some “out there” things as Cisco?

I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun with this episode. Leaving a show after years of working on it can be such an emotionally complex event, sp to get the chance to be irreverent and kind of throw caution out the window and just play, just be silly, that ended up being a very cathartic experience for me. Because if it had been this very significant, intense, monumental goodbye, I think the pressure of delivering on that — and making it feel meaningful, for myself…. I don’t think that would have been the right way to go. I’m actually really grateful that Eric and the writers chose this route for my departure from the show. It’s very silly, very goofy, low-stakes departure.

 

[Trini]

If Jordan Fisher/Impulse is going to be a part of Season 8, it will only be in the first half, since Jordan will be back on Broadway in December.

https://www.theatermania.com/broadway/news/jordan-fisher-will-return-to-dear-evan-hansen_92325.html?

[Trini]

On 5/28/2021 at 6:51 AM, Starry said:

Barry and Iris are "out of town" in 7x14 and this one focuses on the supporting characters? I hope Iris is involved in the B-plot but I am not holding my breath.

It'd be nice if Iris was part of Joe's subplot - it makes so much sense for them to be an investigative duo - but I'm also not holding my breath.

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I can't find the tweet with the screenshot, but apparently Wallace said that the next "graphic novel" doesn't really start until episode 7.15. Episodes 12-14 are an "interlude".

That's a pretty short arc for Godspeed; but maybe that's for the best.

[Trini]

Photos for 7.12 are out: https://flashtvnews.com/the-flash-good-bye-vibrations-photos-released/45172

Looks like Iris will be connected to Joe's plot, as well as having a Team Citizen goodbye get-together for Kamilla. Also a separate get-together for Cisco with Barry, Joe, and Caitlin.

[BeautifulFlower]

14 minutes ago, Trini said:

Photos for 7.12 are out: https://flashtvnews.com/the-flash-good-bye-vibrations-photos-released/45172

Looks like Iris will be connected to Joe's plot, as well as having a Team Citizen goodbye get-together for Kamilla. Also a separate get-together for Cisco with Barry, Joe, and Caitlin.

I've already seen some people upset over Iris not being involved with Cisco's goodbye party. Honestly, I am okay with it. Especially as Caitlin nor Killer Frost are at Kamilla's party. We don't need those two ruining another all girls party.

Besides, Caitlin being the only female at basically an all male party is sad in fact. I know it makes sense as she's closer to Cisco, but it is still sad. I wish they would have treated Team Citizen better, but at least they are females friends for Iris. Caitlin? Her only friend is a clone of her that really shouldn't exist in this fictional show. Just.....sad

[Primal Slayer]

On 6/1/2021 at 2:37 PM, Trini said:

If Jordan Fisher/Impulse is going to be a part of Season 8, it will only be in the first half, since Jordan will be back on Broadway in December.

https://www.theatermania.com/broadway/news/jordan-fisher-will-return-to-dear-evan-hansen_92325.html?

Isn't production usually on hiatus anyway by then? 

[Trini]

27 minutes ago, BeautifulFlower said:

I've already seen some people upset over Iris not being involved with Cisco's goodbye party. Honestly, I am okay with it. Especially as Caitlin nor Killer Frost are at Kamilla's party. We don't need those two ruining another all girls party.

It's fine. I'm sure Iris will have a scene or two with Cisco. Probably a group scene, since the show never did much with Cisco/Iris.

[Trini]

20 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Isn't production usually on hiatus anyway by then? 

Yes, but it sounds like his Broadway commitment may be longer than the winter hiatus (which is 6 weeks, I think?). Plus Jordan would have to be in NY earlier than that for rehearsals.

[Starry]

10 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said:

I've already seen some people upset over Iris not being involved with Cisco's goodbye party. Honestly, I am okay with it. Especially as Caitlin nor Killer Frost are at Kamilla's party. We don't need those two ruining another all girls party.

Besides, Caitlin being the only female at basically an all male party is sad in fact. I know it makes sense as she's closer to Cisco, but it is still sad. I wish they would have treated Team Citizen better, but at least they are females friends for Iris. Caitlin? Her only friend is a clone of her that really shouldn't exist in this fictional show. Just.....sad

I am upset because Cisco's party looks way more fun and they had to kick Iris out of her own house so they could have their OTF get-together. Obviously the characters themselves aren't doing that but this is what's happening on a meta level. They should have thrown their party at STAR Labs because this is just offensive. Add to that the "there wouldn't be a Flash without Cisco Ramon" line Barry says in the promo and the agenda is clear.

Caitlin isn't close to Kamilla which is strange considering that she's dating her oldest friend but aside from that, I don't see what's sad about her situation. At this point both Allegra and Cecile have more warm moments with her than they do with Iris.

[Trini]

We know they aren't doing big group scenes anymore; so I'm okay with Iris having a Team Citizen party in her own space. I was afraid from the episode synopsis and promo that Iris was going to be mostly MIA, so I'm glad she has some part to play. We already knew this was going to be a "OG Team Flash" episode - the last one - so whatever. 

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Also, 7.12 is written by Wheeler and Hersh; the last episode they wrote together was 6.11, "Love is a Battlefield", if anyone wants to get an idea of what their version of 'silly' is.

[Trini]

Matt's Inside Line:

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Any scoop on Carlos Valdes’ final episode of The Flash? — Greg

There is a really nice montage/trip down memory lane.

 

[cambridgeguy]

19 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said:

Besides, Caitlin being the only female at basically an all male party is sad in fact. I know it makes sense as she's closer to Cisco, but it is still sad. I wish they would have treated Team Citizen better, but at least they are females friends for Iris. Caitlin? Her only friend is a clone of her that really shouldn't exist in this fictional show. Just.....sad

Based on what we've seen none of these people have friends outside of the Star Labs/Team Citizen/Superfriends set, so it's not just Caitilin who's the sad, pathetic one.   She probably takes the prize for being the worst thanks to that ludicrous outburst about Frost being her sister a few episodes back, but still.  Iris's female buddies being limited to her employees and stepmom could also be viewed as sad.  Although to be fair, I think she's also friends with Felicity/Kara/Lois.

[adora721]

11 hours ago, Starry said:

Caitlin isn't close to Kamilla which is strange considering that she's dating her oldest friend but aside from that, I don't see what's sad about her situation. At this point both Allegra and Cecile have more warm moments with her than they do with Iris.

Caitlin never made the effort to get close to any of Cisco's girlfriends. I guess that made it easier to feel no shame when Cait nearly got Cynthia murdered by the Thinker. Plus Cait would have to admit that other people matter as much as she does. She/KF are narcissists; so, that won't happen.

Notice that Caitlin and Killer Frost only made an effort with people who actively coddle them: Ralph, Allegra, Joe, Cisco, and Cecile. If you're not an active coddler, Cait/KF don't know you and don't care to try. Recall Killer Frost asking Iris how Ralph was dealing with Barry's impending death in Crisis, but KF never once asked Iris, Barry's wife, how Iris was dealing with it. Notice, too, that Cait/KF somehow made their attempts to help murder Iris into Cait/KF being victims. It's no wonder KF's trial became less about responsibility and more about playing the martyr.

Considering that Killer Frost dragged/insulted Kamilla's photography work in public doesn't help endear Cait or KF to Kamilla either. Kam is probably glad those two "sisters" aren't at her party stealing focus.

Edited June 4, 2021 by adora721

[Trini]

Photos for 7.13 are out: https://flashtvnews.com/the-flash-masquerade-preview-images/45208

So from the pictures, it does look like Cecile and Chester's plots are connected, and both Barry and Iris are involved.

Maybe there's more stuff in the episode, but so far, Joe only has Cecile for a scene partner in this one.

Surprisingly Sue Dearbon is back; I thought they wanted to distance themselves from Ralph - which extends to Sue. What would she be coming back for though? The easiest thing I can think of right now is that she's helping Joe, maybe? Also surprising she's not in the synopsis.

[Trini]

Carlos mentions he's in the season finale two-parter in his EW interview:

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Yeah, I'm coming back, baby, for the last two! I think it's really flattering and gratifying to get to do a big old goodbye, and then come in as a surprise at the very end to help the team take down on a formidable foe.

 

[Trini]

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In another preview clip that was released for tonight's episode (7.12); apparently Cisco and Kamilla only give everyone a day's notice that they are leaving. !! We the audience knew sooner; but why does everything have to happen in one day?? In one episode?? They could have extended this more; at least let them tell everyone at the end of an episode and have the initial reactions, then have the adjustments and the goodbyes in the next.

[Trini]

7.14 synopsis; title is literally "ray of light":

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"Rayo de Luz" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

DANIELLE PANABAKER DIRECTS - When Ultraviolet (guest star Alexa Barajas) returns to Central City, Allegra (Kayla Compton) is determined to find her cousin and change her heart,

Meanwhile, Joe (Jesse L. Martin) finds evidence that Kristen Kramer (guest star Carmen Moore) may not be the good cop she appears to be.

Danielle Panabaker directed the episode with story by Jess Carson and teleplay by Jonathan Butler & Gabriel Garza (#714). Original airdate 6/22/2021

 

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I already knew this was going to be a Barry & Iris -lite episode, but I'm always concerned when neither of them are in an episode description.

Feels like Allegra will also use the power of love to 'defeat' Ultraviolet.

I'm glad they're giving Joe/Jesse stuff to do, but I'm not really interested in this bad policing arc with Kramer, especially since they started it by attaching it to Frost.