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    The Flash in the Media

    And the marketing department continues the incestuous implication by referring to Joe as Barry's "adoptive father." Five seasons in and we're still dealing with a PR dept so stupid that it doesn't recognize that, if Joe legally adopted Barry, that means Iris would be Barry's legal sister and their marriage wouldn't be allowed. Le sigh.......AJK's legacy writing continues to irritate.
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    Season 6 Wish List

    I just found a new writer-director that I hope works on the show in S6: Rhonda Baraka. She just directed an all Black cast in a version of "Pride and Prejudice: Atlanta" on Lifetime channel. It was really excellent. I tweeted to her asking her to please come write for or direct this show. I added Eric Wallace, too. I think she'd be an excellent fit to create plots for Iris in particular, but everyone else, too. On her biography, she writes that she's done work in journalism (how perfect is that!): "A graduate of Talladega College with a Bachelor of Arts degree in English, Ms. Freeman-Baraka discovered a passion for journalism when she began writing an article for the city’s local newspaper, The Daily Home, earning five dollars a week to pen a column about the goings on at her college campus. That position led her to a summer internship with the newspaper where she wrote feature stories about many of the notable and colorful residents of Talladega, Alabama. Those articles earned her a first place win in a national competition staged by the National Association of Black Journalists. Ms. Ms. Freeman-Baraka was chosen out of hundreds of applicants to become the organization’s first William Monroe Trotter intern, an honor that earned her a 10-week internship at the National Leader Newspaper in Philadelphia, PA."
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    The Flash in the Media

    Candice (and Nafessa Willams) were at a DC Comics USO event in the Middle East; some pics. Other pics, which show DP there as well:
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    The Flash in the Media

    So lovely to see Candice embraced by her Arrowverse peers:
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    S05.E22: Legacy

    Barry never fully embraced Nora as his daughter or his father role no matter what dialogue comes out his mouth. Compare how he reacted to Henry and his mother's deaths. And we know he's affected by those losses even now: Flashpoint and abandoning Nora to Thawne's continued influence. Nora was a disappointment to him mostly because of her history with Thawne. I don't think he really had time to fully forgive her for that, so his loss isn't as keen as Iris'. Iris embraced Nora fully and often to her own detriment, so she feels the loss more deeply.
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    Relationships: Speed Dating

    When Ralph's love interest shows up, we'll see if the writers make her close friends with Cait or Iris or both. That should be an indicator of the priorities for the show when it comes to female friendships. If Ralph's boo is squarely hanging with mostly Caity Frost and the actress isn't a POC, that'll tell us a lot.
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    S05.E22: Legacy

    This X a billion. I can't believe that Todd et. al. created such a lousy legacy for the first child of West-Allen. All the talk about Nora being, "The best of both us.", Nora being a hero, or feeling "pride" about Nora is wacko! There's nothing to be proud of that an almost 30 year old woman threw tantrums for 21 episodes, trusted a man she was constantly warned not to trust, demeaned and devalued the mother who raised her and loved her, and ignored the feelings of the father she worshipped. While I didn't want her erased, I can't say I will miss her. Barry and Iris should be grateful for a take 2 on creating a child. I do mourn the loss of Vibe and the fact that CS/KF are still on the show, ugh! If Carlos is leaving, I'm sure he'll do very well in his future endeavors. He's already got a film in the can with some big name stars and that voice of his can serve him well if he goes to Broadway.
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    S05.E22: Legacy

    Very Harry Potter-ish in the end result; erase one, erase the other.
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    S05.E22: Legacy

    A dirge for XS: There was a girl A very fast and stupid girl They say she wandered very far Very far, over time and space Gave Iris the stinky eye But so unwise, was she And then one day One tragic day she passed Thawne’s way While they spoke of many things The Flash’s ring He failed to say to her The greatest thing You'll ever learn Is don’t trust me For I will kill you In return
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    The Flash in the Media

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    S05.E22: Legacy

    Wasn't Wally supposed to be back for a few episodes this S5? Look how that turned out. Here's hoping CV does actually appear in S6, but it may only be long enough to .
  12. SB fans find any reason to complain since it ruins their fantasy romance. I can't take them seriously. Let's agree to disagree about what we consider "normal scenes between Caitlin and Iris" for the series. In S2, both women could have bonded over losing the men they loved on the same day in the same tragedy, but they never spoke to each other about their mutual loss. And it's a loss Caitlin spoke to Felicity about in the S5 crossover, so it's still a fresh wound for her. In S5, Caitlin found out her supposedly dead parent, Thomas, was really alive; Iris could have related because the same thing happened to her in S2 with her mother, Francine. However, the two women never talked to each about that common ground. Missed opportunities left and right. And at least the writers tried to establish something between Iris and Felicity until covert racism trumped that and they allowed Felicity to take over the WA engagement party and wedding. And we do see them writing a healthy relationship between Iris and Cecile since at least S3 onwards; I wonder why??? (sarcasm). In S1, they had a decent relationship shown between Cait and Felicity; I wonder why? The S5 crossover showed women, all White, interacting normally - Cait/KF, Alex, Lois, Kara, and Kate. Hmm.... As for Caitlin's continued bad behavior towards Iris after 4.5 and AJK's firing, I believe each season is outlined before the season begins, so I doubt Todd threw away major plans or story elements created by AJK once AJK was fired. That may account for the continuity of the one-sided SnowWest relationship past 4.5. However, we can see that S5 brought a drastic lack of the SnoWest relationship since AJK no longer had power over the story or CP. It's also certain that Todd shared some of AJK's beliefs like the demonization of mothers, at least Black mothers since Nora Allen is on a pedestal, and the favoring of fathers. Of course, Joe favors Barry over his own son, Wally as evidenced by Joe giving Barry his father's watch instead of giving it to Wally. You'd think Joe would want to make Wally feel included and bonded to his heritage, but the showrunners prioritized Joe loving White Barry (not his biological son) over Black Wally (Joe's biological son). Based on S5, we can also say that Todd isn't comfortable with romance in the way that AJK was ( I can't believe I'm giving that guy a compliment). Todd was also a part of all the seasons, so he may also have issues with covert racism and sexism shared by AJK, too. However, I highly doubt that, if Iris was White, that there wouldn't be a strong female bond between her and Cait. Often people don't realize they have racist issues until they are confronted by it. I also think that CP and EBR get along in real life, so they are written as good friends (minus the wedding issue). CP and DP don't get along in real life, hence the weirdness of the SnoWest relationship. We can agree to disagree about the why; I look forward to the tell-all book years from now. I agree with you that CP isn't losing sleep over SnoWest; in fact, I think she relishes not having to deal with DP above a minimum. I also agree that covert racism is the reason Caitlin is never held accountable for her evil deeds. That has nothing to do w/CP and DP's strained relationship. As for Iris being pregnant: I say we all go on Twitter asking the writers and Todd to explain the immaculate conception.🤣
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    Relationships: Speed Dating

    I'll answer in the Lightning Rod... thread
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    Relationships: Speed Dating

    S4 was all about Barry and Ralph's relationship; so it doesn't count for S5 that's there's litte interaction. We even know they had a relationship back in Barry's rookie days. Barry and Ralph had more friendship issues, good and bad, addressed in one season than Cait and Iris had in 5 seasons. And again, it's all one-sided on Iris' part doing the actual work of friendship. Thanks for the reminder about the hug in 4.05.
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    Relationships: Speed Dating

    The writers and producers have shown normal friendships or friendly interactions among team Flash members in all seasons, which indicates that showing those friendships is a priority for them. Those strong bonds are what makes team Flash, "a family". This has been a priority since S1. Here's the thing: Caitlin/KF tried to kill Cisco and Barry, too, but that didn't dampen their friendships at all. If this was the real world, their friendships would have ended once she tried to kill them. The writers and producers wanted to keep them bonded and they expanded these bonds beyond Barry, Cisco, and Cait in several ways. Let's just discuss Iris and Cait's expanding bonds. With regard to Cait expanding her bonds, she reached out to Joe in 4x1, offered an apology for what she did to Cecile, and hugged Joe. Have we seen Caitlin hug Iris? I don't recall. Caitlin never reached to Iris or apologized for what she did to Iris on Savitar's behalf. Caitlin took initiative to have a Jitters get together with just Joe in S4. Caitlin has asked Joe for his advice. The only time I recall Caitlin asking something of Iris was about info. on the burning man in S1. In fact, Iris was the initator in most of her "friendship" interactions with Cait in S4, which was very one-sided. Joe didn't make an excuse for Caitlin when she apologized nor did he coddle her when he outed her manipulating the team to work with Amunet. The closest Iris has come to putting Cait on blast was for a split moment in 4x1. Even Cecile and Caitlin have a sorta normal friendly relationship based on Cecile telling her about Thomas in S4, and they shared that side-eyed grin when Nora insulted Iris at the baseball game in S5. And when Nora blocked Iris' calls, she didn't block Cait's number in S5. Caitlin and Ralph have done the buddy storyline about breaking into Tannhauser Labs and went to the artic together. With regard to expanding Iris' bonds on the team, since S2, we've seen Iris interact well with Cisco. In S4, we saw Iris interact well with Harry Wells and later, Marlize Devoe. In fact, I think Iris had more friendship chemistry with Marlize in two episodes than Iris had with Cait in 5 seasons. In S5, we've seen Iris interact so well with Ralph. And of course, Iris interacts well with Cecile; she encouraged the relationship with her father and talked about her personal fears and issues with Cecile. The only wierdness in all the STAR Labs relationships is between Iris and Caitlin. The only reasons they did any psuedo-friendship between Iris and Cait in S4 was to: Use Iris to absolve Caitlin without requiring Caitlin to apologize to Iris. Get Caitlin into the WestAllen wedding party. Deal with media scrutinity about the lack of friendship between the two women. This isn't about writers not being into a Caitlin/Iris friendship. I firmly believe the writers would have written a normal, healthy friendship with an onscreen apology from Cait to Iris (like Cait gave to Joe) if not for some BTS shenanigans (strong dislike) between these two actresses. I suspect, too, that because AJK was in charge through S4.5, he wouldn't allow Cait to apologize to Iris as a favor to DP. These are the only things, IMO, that explain why these two characters have not been consistently friendly on screen since S2. AJK made sure the writing was one-sided; he made sure Iris, Caitlin's victim, did all the initiating, did all the coddling, and made all the effort to embrace the woman who tried to help murder her without Caitlin ever having to utter one syllable of an apology or be redeemed. In S5, the two characters barely speak, rarely make eye contact, and hardly interact in any meaingful way. Think back to "Cause and XS"; Iris saw Cicada's dagger moving to kill Killer Frost and Iris didn't even look back or yell to warn her. Like not even to save her life would Iris make eye contact with her.🤣 If a novice watched the show in S5, they'd assume these two were enemies or very new aquaintances, not two people working on a team for 4+ years. With AJK gone, CP probably asked Todd to minimize their interaction; the S5 distancing is the result.
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