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Link to the official documents?  I have no idea about the gag order other than the reports about it I read on line. 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/6532586/PartyGaming-buys-World-Poker-Tour.html

 

So the company Vince works for was bought for 12.3 million back in 2009.  I wonder what it's worth today?  Less or more?  I also wonder just how much Vince makes being an announcer/commentator there?  I know the casino fired Vince, right around the time Eileen signed on with RHBH.  http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/tvradio/vincent-van-pattens-days-are-over-as-potawatomi-spokesman-b99334870z1-272234041.html

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Link to the official documents?  I have no idea about the gag order other than the reports about it I read on line. 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/6532586/PartyGaming-buys-World-Poker-Tour.html

 

So the company Vince works for was bought for 12.3 million back in 2009.  I wonder what it's worth today?  Less or more?  I also wonder just how much Vince makes being an announcer/commentator there?  I know the casino fired Vince, right around the time Eileen signed on with RHBH.  http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/tvradio/vincent-van-pattens-days-are-over-as-potawatomi-spokesman-b99334870z1-272234041.html

In the article you linked from Radar on Line there is a sub heading of Legal Documents.   The parties agreed not to talk about each other or cooperate with interviews, movies or talk about what happened in their marriage.  Obviously such an agreement does not involve Eileen.  This was not a gag order it goes to a show of mutual respect.  Of course now that the children are adults, on a reality show the agreement may be relaxed.  The children of the marriage aren't preinvented from talking about it.

 

Was Vince fired or not renewed?  Maybe he wanted more money with his wife about to become a RH.  he seemed gracious in his exit. 

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Fired, let go, not renewed, whatever, he lost that job.

 

The parties agreed not to talk about each other or cooperate with interviews, movies or talk about what happened in their marriage.

 

In legal documents.

 

A rose by any other name is still a gag order.  ;)

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IMHO, Eileen feels bad regarding the way, her relationship with Vincent started which is why she is so defensive when anyone mentions it.

Who wants to be the jump off? Lol

As far, as Betsy knowing or being humiliated, it is one thing to know your husband has a wondering dick and another thing to have your business blasted in the tabloids.

With that said, Eileen comes across as a good person and the way she treated her step kids attest to that.

Vincent on the other hand, is no prize IMO.

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A marriage can only be ruined by the 2 parties in the marriage.

 

I know some women and men that were thrown off by a divorce they never saw coming. I say it takes one to want out, that's it. And the other one has no option but to leave.

 

My marriage is important to me. I made a vow to stay faithful as I'm sure some on here also took serious. Don't put myself into a position where I could be tempted. Its about having integrity. Eileen saying she felt something with Vince sounds like a high school girl with raging hormones. Maybe focusing on her marriage would of saved hers.  

 

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 So they felt something for each other.  Just because you're married doesn't mean you're dead.  You might someday find yourself attracted to someone else.  But if your vows mean anything to you, do the right thing and step away.  Hell, anybody with half a brain and a Facebook page knows that.  You don't respond to IMs or texts. You don't get together for lunch for old time's sake. You certainly don't take a dirty weekend together in Las Vegas.

 

It's terrific that everyone seems to have moved on and is happy with the situation. I'm certain those 5 & 7 year olds weren't happy with the situation at the time.  I just hope those boys don't think that's the way people with integrity behave in a marriage. 

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 So they felt something for each other.  Just because you're married doesn't mean you're dead.  You might someday find yourself attracted to someone else.  But if your vows mean anything to you, do the right thing and step away.  Hell, anybody with half a brain and a Facebook page knows that.  You don't respond to IMs or texts. You don't get together for lunch for old time's sake. You certainly don't take a dirty weekend together in Las Vegas.

 

It's terrific that everyone seems to have moved on and is happy with the situation. I'm certain those 5 & 7 year olds weren't happy with the situation at the time.  I just hope those boys don't think that's the way people with integrity behave in a marriage. 

 

I agree.  I really hate when these situations are portrayed as inevitable.  There was mad chemistry, we were obviously soul mates, and it was no one's fault.  I had to follow my heart.  Blah blah blah.  Back in the day, there was a pretty decent scandal at Days of our Lives.  Melissa Reeves abruptly quit, breaking her contract.  It was quite heavily implied that she was inappropriately close with her character's love interest, and her husband stepped in and said if you want to save our marriage, you have to leave the show.  Quitting in that manner probably damaged her reputation for a while, but the show actually re-hired her a few years later.  She's still married to her first husband, and they've been married for twenty-five years.   It was so long ago that I don't remember the fine details.  I can't remember if the show sued her, and the truth came out due to that.  I just know it was covered in depth in Soap Opera Digest back then.

 

I do remember that at the infamous wine toss luncheon, Eileen said she had been happy in her second marriage, and they weren't having problems.  I'm not married, but I was once wildly attracted to a married man I worked with.  It was obvious he felt the same way.   We never talked about it, but we were drawn to each other.  There was no touching at all, and other than superficial flirtation, he remained faithful to his wife.  There was no sneaking around whispering and giggling, no notes, no phone calls, no seeing each other outside work, etc.   Any of that would have been an obvious first step on the road to adultery, and only a fool wouldn't have seen it. 

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The difference between us common folk and actors and actresses is we don't kiss our co-workers with conviction.  I know many actors say it is just part of the job but it seems for some it is not.  I went and looked back at when Vince's appearances were on The Young and The Restless.  There were 12 appearances commencing in February and ending in October.  So this we were friends first maybe during the February/March period and things changed in October?  Eileen was out of her marriage by October.

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The difference between us common folk and actors and actresses is we don't kiss our co-workers with conviction.  I know many actors say it is just part of the job but it seems for some it is not.  I went and looked back at when Vince's appearances were on The Young and The Restless.  There were 12 appearances commencing in February and ending in October.  So this we were friends first maybe during the February/March period and things changed in October?  Eileen was out of her marriage by October.

Agreed with you that all that kissing can make actors more prone to having sexual chemistry with their coworkers but Vince and Eileen could have thought about the two kids involved in the situation.

On the other hand, Betsy could have been very happy to get rid of this man child, who knows?

On wiki, it says that she was herself involved with someone since 2000.

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Has Betsy said she found out through the press?  I don't recall ever reading a comment from Betsy saying that is how it happened. This is just a guess on my part but I would think if Vince spent New Years in Las Vegas with Eileen, Betsy probably had a pretty good idea or they had discussed separating and divorcing prior to the press getting wind of it.  I don't know of many marriages where one partner skips out on a major holiday.   Nor do I recall Vince or Betsy saying it was a bitter divorce. I read the divorce papers absolutely no contested issues.  Betsy Russell moved on to a very, very successful producer, Mark Burg (Two and Half Men, Dallas Buyers Club) and was with him for years. Eileen has said she and Vince were not involved while filming Young and the Restless. 

 

Here are the divorce documents.  http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/davidson-divorce-signed.pdf All 100 pages.  Their date of separation was January 6, 2001 and the final was in October of 2001. Jesse was born in May of 2003.   It was an uncontested matter, they had far more assets than liabilities.  Vince paid $4,500 a month in child support and $1,000.00 a month in spousal support through may of 2009.  If her made more than $150,000.00 annually he was to remit 1/3 of the net to Betsy.   Since it was settled by a Marital Settlement Agreement I do not see any signs of a "bitter" divorce.  There were no restraining orders or motions for contested issues.  Neither parent was deemed the primary custodial  parent.

 

I see exactly zero comparison to Brandi.  Betsy did not let her marriage or divorce define her.  Brandi to this day, some six years later can't stop talking about it.  I can see where Brandi was bitter towards Eileen because Betsy did not make a big deal over the divorce.

 

 

So, a month before they married, I wonder how long the divorce took?  Apparently Vince's wife filed as soon as she found out, via paparazzi photos in a gossip magazine.  They had two young boys.  That is a really crappy way to find out, no wonder it was said to be a "bitter" divorce.  Also, I had no idea how very similar the circumstances were to Brandi.  She also had two young boys, she also found out through the press, and her husband also began the affair while on set.

This is confusing about the time line. What was a month before they were married. They were married in the spring of 2003, is that right? My head is spinning. 

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This is confusing about the time line. What was a month before they were married. They were married in the spring of 2003, is that right? My head is spinning. 

Vince and Eileen married a month before their son was born.  Vince's divorce was final in October of 2001.  I don't know what the other quoted poster was referring to-I think my time lines are clean.

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Wikipedia notes that Betsy was partnered to Mark Burg in the "2000's," not from 2000. He produced the Saw franchise that briefly revived her career; they began dating around the Sundance premiere of the first film in the series - so circa late 2003/2004 - and later became engaged. Who knows why they didn't marry but the movies probably elevated his net worth significantly due to their low budget-high return success. She likely doesn't do too poorly on the residual count.

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I think the whole art imitating life thing happens in soaps more often than not. Ironically Jon Lindstrom's current wife Cady McClain was involved with Hunt Block for years who played her love interest Craig on Atwt, a role taken over by none other than Jon Lindstrom.

I remember during the Brandi throwing wine last year that Betsy made a big deal about letting everyone know Eileen and she are close and it is one big happy family.

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I think the whole art imitating life thing happens in soaps more often than not. Ironically Jon Lindstrom's current wife Cady McClain was involved with Hunt Block for years who played her love interest Craig on Atwt, a role taken over by none other than Jon Lindstrom.

I remember during the Brandi throwing wine last year that Betsy made a big deal about letting everyone know Eileen and she are close and it is one big happy family.

Thanks. I do not follow the soaps. So this is all new info to me.:-)

Jon Lindstrom is so fine, what was Eileen thinking??????

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The difference between us common folk and actors and actresses is we don't kiss our co-workers with conviction.  I know many actors say it is just part of the job but it seems for some it is not.  I went and looked back at when Vince's appearances were on The Young and The Restless.  There were 12 appearances commencing in February and ending in October.  So this we were friends first maybe during the February/March period and things changed in October?  Eileen was out of her marriage by October.

 

This is very true.  But Eileen met Vince in her forties.  She had been making out with men she wasn't married to for twenty years.

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Jon Lindstrom is so fine, what was Eileen thinking??????

 

I had to Wiki him and yes, he is fine.  And married to DIXIE!!  Another factoid:  He was born in Medford, Oregon like Rinna. 

 

One thing I've gathered from looking at all these actor's wiki and IMDb pages:  With all the uncertainty of being employed and the cost of living in and around L.A., one must really be in it for the love of acting.  I couldn't do it.  The stress would be too great, nor could I be married to someone who was. But I admire people who do things for a living that they are passionate about. 

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This is very true.  But Eileen met Vince in her forties.  She had been making out with men she wasn't married to for twenty years.

Interesting observation.  Maybe that is what LVP was trying to draw out of her.  

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I think the whole art imitating life thing happens in soaps more often than not. Ironically Jon Lindstrom's current wife Cady McClain was involved with Hunt Block for years who played her love interest Craig on Atwt, a role taken over by none other than Jon Lindstrom.

I remember during the Brandi throwing wine last year that Betsy made a big deal about letting everyone know Eileen and she are close and it is one big happy family.

Ohhh...

Dixie!

Thanks for the flashback.

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I remember reading Soap Opera Digest all the time back in the day (a LONG time ago!)  Jon and Cady always seemed like genuinely NICE people, just down to earth in a way you can't hide.  I'm glad they found each other.  I think both were talented enough for life beyond soaps too.

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Another vote for "what were you thinking?!?" re: Jon Lindstrom, who I have always felt was one of the most attractive and intelligent men on soaps.  A real gentleman.  I confess, even though I have never had and have absolutely no chance with with the man, I was annoyed and jealous when he married death-by-pancakes Dixie.   How DARE you!

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wings707, on 14 Jan 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:wings707, on 14 Jan 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Probably extensions if anything.  Caucasian women do not get weaves.  I suppose there may be a few white woman who have them, never say never, but I doubt it.

 

 

LIMOM, on 14 Jan 2016 - 10:01 AM, said:LIMOM, on 14 Jan 2016 - 10:01 AM, said:

  

She has really luscious hair. I suspect a good weave though.

 

I've had bonded extensions put in my own hair (twice) and I'm really good at spotting other people who have them. There is a certain "tell" as to where the real hair ends and the faux hair begins. 

 

There is absolutely nothing about Eileen's hair that leads me to believe she has a weave, extensions, or anything other fake.

 

Some people really are blessed with naturally thick, shiny, beautiful hair. And I HATE them! J/K.  (sorta.....)

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I've had extensions put in my hair (twice) and I'm really good at spotting other people who have them.

 

There is nothing about Eileen's hair that leads me to believe she has a weave, extensions, or anything other than her own, natural, beautiful hair.

Amazing! With all that peroxide her hair grow that long???

She needs to share her secrets, pretty please.

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LIMOM, on 19 Jan 2016 - 3:20 PM, said:

Amazing! With all that peroxide her hair grow that long???

She needs to share her secrets, pretty please.

 

I think her secret is being born with the right genes.  And probably a good hairdresser.  A good hairdresser can color your hair and still keep in healthy.

 

Eileen's hair isn't really that long, especially next to women like Kyle, Erika and Joyce (from previous season!)  I think Erika is the one to be fascinated with. She's got some seriously bleached blonde hair and it's hella long!

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I think her secret is being born with the right genes.  And probably a good hairdresser.  A good hairdresser can color your hair and still keep in healthy.

 

Eileen's hair isn't really that long, especially next to women like Kyle, Erika and Joyce (from previous season!)  I think Erika is the one to be fascinated with. She's got some seriously bleached blonde hair and it's hella long!

Do you think that Erika's hair are all her own?

I can't get my hair past my shoulders...

Maybe I should pony up for a better hair person.

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Do you think that Erika's hair are all her own?

I can't get my hair past my shoulders...

Maybe I should pony up for a better hair person.

I am not terribly accomplished at picking at fake hair but I can see where Erika's hair is about two inches past her shoulders when she is in the bedroom in the Hamptons.  You can especially see it on one side and the back.  So no I think Erika has plenty of help with her hair.

 

Now Eileen we watched her grow it out.  Last year it started slightly above the shoulder-looked great, by the Reunion it had gotten past her shoulders and now this year it is longish.

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I remember reading Soap Opera Digest all the time back in the day (a LONG time ago!)  Jon and Cady always seemed like genuinely NICE people, just down to earth in a way you can't hide.  I'm glad they found each other.  I think both were talented enough for life beyond soaps too.

Jon & Cady

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LIMOM, on 19 Jan 2016 - 3:29 PM, said:

Do you think that Erika's hair are all her own?

I can't get my hair past my shoulders...

Maybe I should pony up for a better hair person.

 

My initial feeling is that Erika's hair is all her own, but I am not as confident as I am with Eileen.  If she does have extensions, they are some of the best and most natural I've ever seen!

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Reading back through this thread, I got all the way back to the article about VVP "overcoming" two years of agoraphobia through prayer. http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20141278,00.html 

 

I have to wonder if any of the symptoms have come back after the recent death of his father. I don't think badly of Vince like most here do, but I got to this article and it really made me wonder how he's coping.

 

ETA: Off-topic, but Erika definitely has extensions. Even if she didn't add any length (and I 100% think she did), she most certainly added extensions for volume. I would be surprised if Eileen has anything more than a good hairstylist.

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Do you think that Erika's hair are all her own?

I can't get my hair past my shoulders...

Maybe I should pony up for a better hair person.

 

 

How long you can grow your hair is genetically programmed in your hard wiring.  I cannot grow mine past my shoulders either. 

 

I think most on TV have extensions, not many have hair like Kyle.  Carmen Diaz has good looking hair but nothing to make you think she has extensions.   In a movie outtake they showed her over doing a scene for laughs and she pulled out a couple of the clip ins. 

 

If you look at Kyle's pony tail you can see that it does not appear as thick at the base as you would think.  He hair is definitely thick and beautiful.  Erika's pony tail is way too thick at the base than any real hair can ever be.  That either says extensions or fake pony tail.  In her THs she is loaded with clip ons, for sure!  

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Vince still screams Himbo to me, Eileen married down.

Jon Linstrom seems like a good guy, glad he found love again

Always preferred Tim Van Patten, he starred in one of my favorite 80's movies.

Class of 1984.

He went behind the camera, achieving success as a writer, producer and director.

Wrote my favorite Sopranos episode, Pine Barrens.

Directed the pilot episode for Game of Thrones.

Also worked on Rome, Deadwood, The Wire, The Pacific and Boardwalk Empire.

Sorry Eileen, you chose the wrong Van Patten.

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Reading back through this thread, I got all the way back to the article about VVP "overcoming" two years of agoraphobia through prayer. http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20141278,00.html 

 

I have to wonder if any of the symptoms have come back after the recent death of his father. I don't think badly of Vince like most here do, but I got to this article and it really made me wonder how he's coping.

 

ETA: Off-topic, but Erika definitely has extensions. Even if she didn't add any length (and I 100% think she did), she most certainly added extensions for volume. I would be surprised if Eileen has anything more than a good hairstylist.

I find Vince entertaining and I think it is a marriage they both work at maintaining. 

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I have never warmed to Eileen.  She approaches  conversation with a slightly haughty air of being right.  She wears innocence as a defense.   Who me?  I didn't mean it that way.  All I meant was.  It wasn't my fault.  I didn't want to talk about that.   

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Vince still screams Himbo to me, Eileen married down.

Jon Linstrom seems like a good guy, glad he found love again

Always preferred Tim Van Patten, he starred in one of my favorite 80's movies.

Class of 1984.

He went behind the camera, achieving success as a writer, producer and director.

Wrote my favorite Sopranos episode, Pine Barrens.

Directed the pilot episode for Game of Thrones.

Also worked on Rome, Deadwood, The Wire, The Pacific and Boardwalk Empire.

Sorry Eileen, you chose the wrong Van Patten.

Eileen might be more into looks and might be attracted to the more athletic type.

Vince was a great Tennis Player at one point.

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I have never warmed to Eileen. She approaches conversation with a slightly haughty air of being right. She wears innocence as a defense. Who me? I didn't mean it that way. All I meant was. It wasn't my fault. I didn't want to talk about that.

[eileen] How vulgar! *grimace* Etiquette! How dare you! What kind of person just ignores vulgar behavior?![/eileen]. Edited by Kokapetl
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My thought on Eileen and Jon breaking up is that their wants and desires changed. I remember when the character of Ashley wad pregnant on the show circa 2000...there were interviews with Eileen feeling the maternal urge and wanting a child..but that Jon wasn't too keen on that. Sometimes people's desires change and one wanting a child..and the other not..is a pretty big hurdle to handle.

My thinking is after LVP discussed the affair...Eileen bought up the domestic abuse (notice how stories were focused on that)...and had the cameras follow her to Italy to spread her sisters ashes. She knew that she had to show other things or else the show would just focus on the affair.

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For some reason, I can't get too excited about Eileen's past.  Maybe I've become a little bit jaded over the years because I just assume that Hollywood people all have histories that we know little or nothing about.  I tend to judge them on how they are now.  So many of them have lived their wild days during their younger years and have grown into responsible adults.

 

Eileen seems to me, so far, to be one of the more interesting and likeable members of the RHOBH cast.  She has a multi-faceted acting ability, partially because of working every day on soaps.  One moment she's witty, the next sarcastic, etc., which makes her fun and interesting to me.  At this point, I feel that she can out-act any other woman on the show.

 

So, if Hollywood truly is akin to high school, then actors and actresses have had their boyfriends and girlfriends way back when, who cares?  I don't.  I just hope that the quality of her acting doesn't change because she brings a lot to the show.  Gossip is fun for me, too, but it doesn't color the way I feel about people I admire.

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What I objected to last year about Brandi bringing up the affair is it was such old news.  For Brandi to say it was on the internet and somehow that excused her from bringing it up, was ludicrous.  Most people when meeting a new co-worker don't lead with a person's weakness.  Add to it the couple have now been together for 15 years and have a child, it was once again another Brandi saying shit that effect another's children.  The parties had worked it out and moved on and it really wasn't Brandi's place to bring it up.

 

LVP may have been going for the on-screen kiss and electricity between she and Vince, but that falls kind of flat because I am thinking Eileen has had a love scene or two since then and not gotten involved with the co-star.  It was kind of too bad, had LVP just apologized for not stopping the "grilling" when Eileen brought it up, they may have been able to continue with what looked like a pretty good friendship.

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What I objected to last year about Brandi bringing up the affair is it was such old news.  For Brandi to say it was on the internet and somehow that excused her from bringing it up, was ludicrous.  Most people when meeting a new co-worker don't lead with a person's weakness.  Add to it the couple have now been together for 15 years and have a child, it was once again another Brandi saying shit that effect another's children.  The parties had worked it out and moved on and it really wasn't Brandi's place to bring it up.

 

LVP may have been going for the on-screen kiss and electricity between she and Vince, but that falls kind of flat because I am thinking Eileen has had a love scene or two since then and not gotten involved with the co-star.  It was kind of too bad, had LVP just apologized for not stopping the "grilling" when Eileen brought it up, they may have been able to continue with what looked like a pretty good friendship.

Lisa did word it badly but she WAS asking when/how she KNEW Vince was THE one that night. I can also understand why Eileen had some walls up but she and Lisa were friendly last season with zero issues or any distrust between them so, IMO, her upset didn't make sense with Lisa. AND Lisa DID say " I apologize" but Eileen didn't want to hear that. I think Eileen wanted to go into detail about WHY she was upset and that Lisa said it right away took that moment (scene) from her and that ticked Eileen off even further. LOL JMO

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Lisa did word it badly but she WAS asking when/how she KNEW Vince was THE one that night. I can also understand why Eileen had some walls up but she and Lisa were friendly last season with zero issues or any distrust between them so, IMO, her upset didn't make sense with Lisa. AND Lisa DID say " I apologize" but Eileen didn't want to hear that. I think Eileen wanted to go into detail about WHY she was upset and that Lisa said it right away took that moment (scene) from her and that ticked Eileen off even further. LOL JMO

LVP may have said she was sorry but she owed to Eileen for her to explain why she was upset.  Subsequent talking heads and blogs indicate to me LVP wasn't sorry, she just threw out an apology.  LVP might have learned what not to say to Eileen.  It goes further, like Brandi, I don't think LVP stopped and thought about the adult conversation she was having vs. the impact on Jesse and the step sons.  If LVP goal was to get Eileen to quit to avoid further questions she is well on her way to achieving the goal.  I think LVP apparent callousness will comeback to haunt her during the Yolanda issues.

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Eileen was pretty perfect last night. I was disliking her Erika-worship, but she was fine putting her on the spot with the Yolanda topic.

I hated the denim jumper and thought the ultra high waistline was unflattering to what I'm sure is a perfectly fine ass. Also hated her shoes. Very dated. I think she's a pack rat.

I vastly enjoy Eileen more when the man-child she calls husband is absent.

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QUOTE BY ZOEYSMOM:

 

 

What I objected to last year about Brandi bringing up the affair is it was such old news.  For Brandi to say it was on the internet and somehow that excused her from bringing it up, was ludicrous.

 

I wish that I could give this comment ten "likes."  It says everything that I have been trying to say.  You nailed it!

 

Brandi never gave a hill of beans about who she hurt, how much she hurt them, or how to welcome someone into the group.  She let them find out for themselves.  Fortunately for us and for Eileen, Eileen knew how to handle her and did so.  Between Brandi's stretching the truth like that, plus hurling wine in Eileen's face, Eileen really got the royal low ho's welcome.  I've always thought that the beautiful thing about the incident was that Eileen retained her composure, and the audience got to see it!  Brandi caught the viewers' backfire right in the face!

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