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calliope1975
calliope1975

For no reason at all, I'm really sad right now, and as a brown girl in the US, my depression is hitting an all time high. Gonna take a xanax, hug the cats, and go to bed. I love you all. Be good to on

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thegirlsleuth

thegirlsleuth

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I am watching Riverdale because Cole Sprouse is my favorite person on twitter.  Not a great basis for adopting a show, but considering I picked up Arrow because of memes on tumblr, not the worst, either.

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Delphi

Delphi

3 minutes ago, thegirlsleuth said:

I am watching Riverdale because Cole Sprouse is my favorite person on twitter.  Not a great basis for adopting a show, but considering I picked up Arrow because of meme's on tumblr, not the worst, either.

I'm watching for Cole as well,  at least for a little bit.  I'm not sure my liking him can keep me long term. 

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lemotomato

lemotomato

Just noticed that we have reputation points (based on number of "likes") now. On the mobile site it's right next to your name when you post and on desktop you can see it on your profile or when you hover over your user icon. Interesting addition.

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LeighAn

LeighAn

21 hours ago, thegirlsleuth said:

I am watching Riverdale because Cole Sprouse is my favorite person on twitter.  Not a great basis for adopting a show, but considering I picked up Arrow because of memes on tumblr, not the worst, either.

Literally my first exposure to Arrow was Olicity gifs on tumblr haha

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BkWurm1

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The boards are back up!  Thank goodness.  All those very scary messages about running the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme had me worried about ever getting the site back, lol.  

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Jediknight

Jediknight

6 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

The boards are back up!  Thank goodness.  All those very scary messages about running the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme had me worried about ever getting the site back, lol.  

Yeah, that was strange.  I just figured I did something remarkably stupid to my profile and broke it somehow.

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Sakura12

Sakura12

12 hours ago, lemotomato said:

Just noticed that we have reputation points (based on number of "likes") now. On the mobile site it's right next to your name when you post and on desktop you can see it on your profile or when you hover over your user icon. Interesting addition.

I was wondering why we all had numbers next to our names. 

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Sakura12

Sakura12

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The rating system is a little weird. It's reminding me of the Black Mirror episode, Nosedive. 

I remember trying to look up a movie I watched, then realizing I put 2 or 3 movies into one and that's why I could never find it. Lol. 

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bijoux

bijoux

1 hour ago, Delphi said:

Well,  I feel unpopular. 

Aw. Yeah, I'm not so sure about this move. I'm honestly still doubtful about popular posts turning green. It seems to promote unnecessary competitiveness.

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catrox14

catrox14

10 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

The boards are back up!  Thank goodness.  All those very scary messages about running the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme had me worried about ever getting the site back, lol.  

I'm still seeing that on the mobile versions. Any one else seeing that on mobile? I can't even sign in on mobile.

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kismet

kismet

19 hours ago, lemotomato said:

Just noticed that we have reputation points (based on number of "likes") now. On the mobile site it's right next to your name when you post and on desktop you can see it on your profile or when you hover over your user icon. Interesting addition.

Thanks, I was wondering what that was. Although not enough curiosity to check. :)

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tv echo

tv echo

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Stumbled across this on Screener site and then Googled TWoP...

http://screenertv.com/about/

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And, in 2017, Screener will proudly welcome the revival of Television Without Pity, with an unexpected twist.

Television Without Pity has new owners and a relaunch in the works
By Danette Chavez  Apr 13, 2016  12:27 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/television-without-pity-has-new-owners-and-relaunc-235236

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kismet

kismet

Wishing everyone a Happy Christmas!! Or if you celebrate another holiday, may you have the Merriest of that Holiday. And if you celebrate nothing, may you just have a wonderful day. :)

Also big thank you to everyone who has to work over the holiday.... it is an honorable sacrifice and I thank you for your time!!  

Lastly, its a little early - but wishing everyone a Peaceful and Happy 2017!! May it blessed and better than 2016!

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CooperTV

CooperTV

10 hours ago, tv echo said:

From Stydia to Bellarke, these TV ships give us hope for 2017

"Stiles (Dylan O'Brien) and Lydia (Holland Roden) are inching closer and closer to becoming a couple in "Teen Wolf's" final season"

The fans have to wait indefinitely, then, as it's never going to happen. After every failed fanon and canon ship on that show and how the writers treat fandom they should have known better.

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statsgirl

statsgirl

That's a great gif @BunsenBurner.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and a wonderful holiday season to all who post and lurk here.  Thank you all for another of intelligent and civil discussion and for being a place I can come to and know I will feel better after visiting.

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bijoux

bijoux

So, the hair washing scene from Out of Africa came up in conversation with my friends a couple of days ago, and I went, Hey, wasn't there something similar in a mini series with young Courtney Cox, in which her much older lover was doing the washing and he later died in a plane crash? And Hugh Grant was her half-brother? There is, and, my God, it's glorious. I spent three hours on it yesterday and today, and it was a complete acid trip. I think I mixed up some things from another piece Hugh Grant did around the same time, Champagne Charlie. Of course, I'll have to rewatch that one as well. :)

Funny thing is, this is supposed to be a soap but it skipped over some big emotional moments. It actually reminded me of Arrow in that.

The story starts pre-WWI with Courtney's mother Eve. She's a teenager (played badly by a 30-something actress, gorgeous, but still 30 if she was a day) from a well to do family, who is semi-engaged to the town catch, but she's in luv with a skeevy performer played by Maxwell Caulfield after seeing his act three times. She chases him to a night train as he departs for his mother's funeral and they, naturally, have sex as one does in those circumstances. They live in sin in Paris until he contracts some lung disease, and then she is aided by a neighbor with theatre connections to get a solo singing part when she goes to audition for the chorus. The rise to the top is hard, y'all. Skeevy Maxwell Caulfield is upset about this because he never got close to it, calls her a whore and attempts to rape her. This thankfully does not go far since he's coughing up a lung or two.

Fast forward a few years and Eve goes to sing for the soldiers at the front, only she and her driver go the wrong way and have to spend a night with Michael York and his men. Michael thinks she's an idiot at first (he's not wrong), but then he's enchanted with her voice. Then Michael goes to visit his wife and new born son, where his mother-in-law has some of the most hilarious lines ever, commenting that the child (future evil Hugh Grant), is superb. We produce beautiful children. The point of this visit is that Michael is Paul de Lancel (a surname I don't think a single person pronounces correctly for the whole 3 hours), French nobleman, heir to an old successful winery and with a bright future in diplomacy he throws away to fight the good fight. Also, his cuckoo wife Susannah Harker (B&E's Jane Bennet) issues a warning that she'll kill herself if he leaves her, aka returns to his post. She then shoots herself in the head before completing the threat. I don't think that' how emotional blackmail works, Susannah. In the aftermath the in-laws swear to make baby Hugh Grant (Bruno) evil and to hate his father. Spoiler: They will succeed.

Another two years later, Michael York tracks down Eve in her theatre and takes her out to dinner and dancing. Three hours into it he proposes. She is shocked that it took him so long, but accepts. Ahahaha. Since the war is over, Paul gets some foreign post as a diplomat and goes home to say goodbye to little Bruno. His father-in-law keeps him from the baby, saying that he's somewhere else, but Paul doesn't really try all that much. Nor does he in the following 15 years as he gets sent to different places aside from issuing invitations for Bruno to come to wherever Paul and his new family are at the moment. I'm not surprised Bruno hates him.

We catch up with the family in California. Paul and Eve have two kids, roughly about 10, Delphine (future Mia Sara) and Freddie (future Courtney Cox). Freddie is crazy about flying and gets her Dad to take her to a flying school for a flight and then tricks the instructor into giving her a lesson. This is important - the instructor is her future love interest. She's roughly 10 and he's over two decades older! And Paul leans on the water pump that will be the scene which prompted my memory as they leave. It's hilarious! Freddie continues taking flying lessons as years go by and she actually turns into Courtney Cox and in the one honestly good scene of this thing, her sister, who really doesn't have anything in common with her, is truly and honestly overjoyed when Freddie completes her first solo flight.

The family goes back to Paul's chateau for the first time in ever. That's when his parents meet their granddaughters for the first time, which is insane. It's 1930s at this point, intercontinental travel wasn't impossible and the family has more than enough money. But whatever, Evil Bruno is living their since his maternal grandparents have died and he's an ass to everyone, admires Hitler and "exposes" Eve's seedy past to Delphine. She takes it for granted and then proceeds to get into trouble, drinking and gambling, and whatnot back in LA. After she claims diplomatic immunity because of Paul when she's arrested, she's sent back to the grandparents to get disciplined. They instead throw her parties where all of Bruno's friends fall madly in love with her. One of them takes them to visit a film studio where she runs into Charles Shaughnessy, a brash Jewish film director with a truly afwul curly mullet. Much like her mother before her she stumbles into an audition, a leading role, and instant fame. After the film is completed, she confesses her love to him, he insults her, then confesses he loves her back, and all is well until the war, because - Jewish. 

Meanwhile Freddie decides not to go to college and instead fly professionally, for which Paul throws her out of the house. Father of the year Paul is not. She runs to Mack, her much, muuuuch older flying instructor. They of course get together the same night, and start doing movie stunts with Mack's old friend Jock, who's actually a pretty cool guy. There's the hair washing scene (in which he basically hoses her down like a dog) and then he gets all bossy about not letting her do a stunt and proceeds to die in the aforemention crash while doing it. Freddie decides to heal her broken heart by joining the army. She's stationed in Great Britain, where she befriends fellow pilot played by Serena Gordon, has a run in with Bruce Boxleitner, and meets and reconciles with her father. She also goes to visit Serena's family at their country estate where Serena's brother Tony barges into the bathroom where Freddie is taking a bath and hangs out, which bothers no one, not Freddie, not Serena, and not Serena and Tony's mother. They're peerage at least, but sure. Tony later drops by Freddie's room with the gift of a waterbottle and jumps in her bed dressed for bed himself (but still wearing a wrist watch, what?) and promptly proposes marriage. Sure. Paul gives Freddie away and Bruce Boxleitner is the best man who realizes he missed his chance, but is a good sport about it. Freddie soon gets pregnant and Tony grounds her (not as in not leaving the house, but not flying, still an utter ass) and trouble starts to brew. 

Meanwhile in France Eve, a natural at everything it seems, successfully takes over running the winery until Germans take it over and Bruno jumps in to be able to better collaborate with the Nazis. He also suggests Delphine use her fame and influence to get info on Charles Shaughnessy from the Germans. He takes her to a party at a high ranking officer's and poor, dumb Delphine doesn't realize that her "influence" means sleeping with the enemy for information. She hightails it out of there, after which Bruno rapes her. His maternal grandparents are probably doing a jig in hell at that moment. He also steals the family's secret stash of 500,000 bottles of best champagne to sell on the black market together with the Nazis. A local father and son see this, and Bruno executes the father when they catch him. The son witnesses this and goes catatonic. A group of "skilled" workers is sent to help with the harvest and one of them is Charles Shaughnessy, now with a better haircut. He's soon uncovered as completely unskilled and is sent off somewhere to be executed with a few others. Eve, knowing her daughter loves him (how, I do not know, they never show them talking about him or almost at all) saves him and the others with the help of the local resistance.

Post-war, Paul discovers Bruno's theft (though presumably not the rape) and tosses Bruno out, giving him a beating in the process. Bruno still has heaps of money from profiteering with which he can get at his family for years. Delphine reunites with Charles Shaughnessy. The apparently have problems which get resolved after she takes Freddie's advice and tells him about Bruno raping her. Emotionally gripping stuff, no? Well, aside from the reunion it all takes place off screen and they only show Delphine recapping it years later. Freddie meanwhile goes with Tony and their daughter to visit Bruce Boxleitner in California. Freddie takes over, they stay, invest in Bruce's air transport business and she starts flying again. Tony cheats, then finally leaves her and Freddie finds out that Bruce Boxleitner knew about Tony's cheating for a while. She flips, goes flying and crashes, after which she refuses to see Bruce for months while he's being kind to her mother and kid.

Paul has a heart attack while riding with Eve through the wineyard (hilarious scene), gets dragged by the horse for 5 feet and is declared dead by a grape picker. Um, why not call for a doctor? Bruno, now sporting a very Hitler-esque moustache shows up to literally spit on his father's grave and inform his wife and daughters that he has managed to take over all of Paul's many mortgages. It doesn't pan out for him in the end because the son of the man he killed finally manages to say what Bruno did, the locals hunt him down and execute him, firing squad style. The son presumably gets the death shot. The police officer in charge of the investigation declares it a hunting accident with the whole firing squad still there, their rifles smoking.

Freddie goes back to California, where her daughter has stayed while she attended the funal and all the arrangements. Tony notably didn't either come from England to be with her or take her there while Freddie was away. Instead, Jock and Bruce Boxleitner have been taking care of her and Bruce has been giving her flying lessons. Thankfully, it's not a repeat of the disturbing Freddie/Mack story, and Freddie and Bruce finally get together. They have an unsatisfactory short kiss and then they go flying with her taking the wheel again. That part is good. The end.

As I was watching it, similar stuff started popping up on Youtube and I was reminded of all the crazy stuff that was produced in mid and late 80s. Is there anything worse than Mistral's Daughter?

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BkWurm1

BkWurm1

1 hour ago, Thundercatmary said:

Just wow, he was still so young.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 hour ago, Thundercatmary said:

Just wow, he was still so young.

2016 really, REALLY sucks!  

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BkWurm1

BkWurm1

28 minutes ago, calliope1975 said:

I know everyone dies, but the past few years have been brutal with taking my childhood musical icons. Blasting my George Michael, listening to one of the best male vocalists we've had. 

He doesn't get the credit that he deserves for that.  Seriously though, one of the best voices, so much range and emotion and had the best use of oohs and awws and la da da da da daahs. 

Ironically I had just heard George Michael/Wham's "Last Christmas" earlier today.  The title seems way too prophetic now.   

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kismet

kismet

2016 has taken away too many amazing people both famous & not... It really does feel like it's robbed us more than other years... Personally, I cannot wait until 2017 knocks 2016 out. I feel like a want a party to celebrate the end of 2016, not to ring in the New Year.

RIP George Michael, he really was a talented singer. Sadly, I had also heard his original version of "Last Christmas" just before I read the news. In retrospect, I wish they had played it more than the weaker covers of his song this Holiday season.

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kismet

kismet

http://tvline.com/2016/12/25/george-michael-dead-remembered-eli-stone/

I can remember rocking out to George Michael in my dorm room dance parties.... But Eli Stone was one of my fond memories of him. I just loved that show & his involvement in it was perfect. Also that show was amazing and I wish MG could channel more of those creative juices for Arrow.

Sidenote - once again GB smokes MG as a classy interviewee & social media poster. Seriously, MG needs to learn how to handle media.

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BkWurm1

BkWurm1

1 hour ago, kismet said:

http://tvline.com/2016/12/25/george-michael-dead-remembered-eli-stone/

I can remember rocking out to George Michael in my dorm room dance parties.... But Eli Stone was one of my fond memories of him. I just loved that show & his involvement in it was perfect. Also that show was amazing and I wish MG could channel more of those creative juices for Arrow.

Sidenote - once again GB smokes MG as a classy interviewee & social media poster. Seriously, MG needs to learn how to handle media.

Eli Stone was weirdly fantastic and George's finale, "Feeling Good" gave me chills.  I got to see him in concert about 8 years ago.  He absolutely lived up to the hype.    

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statsgirl

statsgirl

Last spring, Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings played in my city but the tickets were expensive so I told myself I would go next time.  Last summer Carrie Fisher was in town doing her one woman show but tickets were expensive to I said I'd go next time.  I'll never do that again.


My heart goes out to her daughter and to her mother. It's so hard to lose a child.

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