Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[bantering]

Sonny doesn't seem that attached to Paul. He seems flattered by the attention he gives him (as does everyone else who seems to come close to the stars emitting from Paul's eyes) but I don't get the sense that he really feels a present kind of love or even lust for him in the way Carrie was drawn to Mike. He seems to be remembering Paul as a happy memory from his past, but in the present day the attachment doesn't seem quite as strong. But I'm not sure if I think that because I have Will's weird reaction to compare to, who also doesn't seem that attached to Paul, but got extremely taken with the momentary attraction.

 

I think the kissing between Paul and Sonny was wrong (is that what happened? I might have skipped the episode) and I think kissing crosses a line that counts as emotional, if not physical, cheating,  but if I exclude that I wouldn't be able to tell if there is emotional cheating going on. Before the flying-bed sex, I thought what Carrie was doing with Mike veered into emotional cheating, because of what she was sharing with him in terms of what was going on in her marriage, etc. People who confide in people they're attracted to about problems in their marriage strike me as crossing a line. Has Sonny shared what is going on his marriage to Paul? (Does anyone really know what's going on in their marriage? I should have paid more attention. I just thought they were doing the regular kind of fighting one does when financial problems arise. I tend to think of that kind of arguing as so common in the modern day it didn't even register to me as heightened discord. But I might be slow).  

Edited January 10, 2015 by bantering

[Lastwaltz]

Will is awful. I don't get this turn of events at all. They didn't show me any believable reasons why Will would cheat on Sonny. I hate to look forward to scenes of Sonny in emotional pain, but I hope they wrap this stuff up soon so we can all move on. 

 

And I don't think he's clear on what journalism really is. Does he realize he just crapped all over his big article -- hopefully his career --  by removing any objectivity? Can Victor have him canned from the magazine, please? 

 

Theresa was heartbreaking yesterday. I don't blame Brady for calling her on her shit, though. He's no nobleman but she was pretty devious in leading him down that drunken, coked-up path. She's also a sympathetic character for me in much the same way Jack always was despite his mistakes. I hope she and Melanie can be friendly -- they each need a good girlfriend (Anne and Serena are hateful and pre-occupied, respectively). 

 

I think Brady and Melanie are cute! And Maggie so has their number. 

[NorthstarATL]

I think it was probably foreshadowing a threeway solution to the guys' problem when figuratively Sonny and Will each had a Paul ball in  his hand at the same time.

[LeftPhalange]

 

I find the idea that Will's lack of sexual experience with a man in some way excuses his cheating, or makes it understandable to be incredibly offensive.

 

 

I find it absolutely amazing how some are trying to excuse Sneasel's behavior for stepping out on Sonny.

 

I don't think anyone is really trying to make excuses for Will. I think people (including me) are just trying to figure out how this happened since the writers don't make it clear what's going on. I was under the impression that Will and Sonny were just going through common marital problems and then all of a sudden Will and Sparkle are humping each other. Once again, the writers go from 0 to 60 in two seconds and now the audience is left to fill in the blanks.

[271days]

I don't think anyone is really trying to make excuses for Will. I think people (including me) are just trying to figure out how this happened since the writers don't make it clear what's going on. I was under the impression that Will and Sonny were just going through common marital problems and then all of a sudden Will and Sparkle are humping each other. Once again, the writers go from 0 to 60 in two seconds and now the audience is left to fill in the blanks.

The buildup between Sonny and Paul was there, but in their haste to give us a "shocking twist", the writers forgot to develop the Will part of the story more. Before he left for LA, they had Will say he was too young to be a married father, then he was offscreen for a month.

From their brief encounters, I think we were supposed to assume that Will found Paul attractive. I got a bit of that, but I also thought Will was uncomfortable because he wasn't sure what to make of this flirtatious athlete. We didn't even get an inappropriate fantasy to make us feel the attraction building. Heck, Will didn't even get that worked up about Sonny draining the accounts.

At one point, Will almost forgot to put his ring on completely. I think we were supposed to feel like he enjoyed becoming another person when he was with Paul as it got easier and easier to take the ring off.

Corday said that this is all happening because Will jumped into marriage with his first love, while GW said that Will was flattered that a pro-athlete found him attractive.

Then we have Will telling Marlena he would do anything to get to what Paul is hiding and then he goes off running to confront Paul after Kate says he should throw him a curveball or whatever.

There seem to be a number of factors that could have contributed to Will sleeping with Paul but none so significant that the viewer feels they definitively understand why it happened. This is probably because the writers either don't know yet, or they want to make it deliberately ambiguous. When it comes out I expect everyone to assume Will did it to trap Paul for his article, just like they assumed EJ took advantage of Abby.

When Will kept Ari's paternity secret, there were loads of reasons shown onscreen of why he went along with it. He didn't want to lose Sonny and, because of his turbulent childhood, he wanted Arianna to grow up in a stable home with two parents that he wasn't sure he could provide because he was gay. When that reveal came out, the writers had Will say that he gave up Ari for Sonny even though we had seen that it wasn't as simple as that. The writers will choose whatever reason suits the story at the time.

With EJ and Abby, they made it seem like EJ slept with her to save Sami from prison, then it was because Sami kicked him out of her bed, then it was because EJ said Abby 'saw' him, whatever that meant. I don't think EJ ever sat down with Sami to really talk about why he cheated (correct me if I'm wrong). EJ just swooped in to save Sami from Fatha and then Sami forgave him.

These writers can't even explain why JJ keeps wanting to sleep with Eve, although he at least has been shown seeing a therapist.

If they have Will waffle about why he cheated, there's no way Sonny would or should forgive him. And for this story to work, just trotting Caroline out to Club TBD to talk to Sonny is not going to be good enough.

The writers missed so many beats with the EJami infidelity story that I hope this story with Will and Sonny is allowed to play out fully. Sonny already has a history of being too accepting, so I hope everything isn't wrapped up too quickly.

Edited January 11, 2015 by 271queenie

[NorthstarATL]

To be fair, though, a lot of times cheating doesn't happen for a reason other than the situation presented itself. And, politically incorrect as it might be, gay relationships (epecially male) are rarely strictly monogamous, if only for the fact that the glaring difference between, say, E.J./Abigail/Sami and Sonny/Will/Paul, is that there is no sexual attraction between Sami and Abigail. I'm not condoning cheating, but I have known married gay couples for decades (gay marriage was never "banned", just not recognized by the Government, an important distinction between same-sex and interracial or polyamorous joinings), and quite often there are/were more loopholes available than for straight marriages, where legality and pregnancy make things thornier. Do I think Days would go there? Not yet. But it could make for a refreshing solution to the triangle that wouldn't necessarily be doable for a traditional marital infidelity plot.

Edited January 11, 2015 by NorthstarATL

[TigerLynx]

I think the writers just have the characters cheating for the hell of it, and then they try to fill in the blanks later.  That annoys the viewers who try to figure out what's going on in the SL because the writers couldn't be bothered to do their job.  It become even worse when the fans come up with better possible SLs in the process.  Then the SL plays out to its boring conclusion once again annoying the fans who had a better more entertaining ending in mind.  So many posters speculations in this thread about what might happen, or why something happened were way better than what eventually did happen on the show.

[polodog]

The one thing I'll give the writers credit for is that this could be a straight couple or a gay couple.  There's no differential with triangles.  It's not like the gay marriage situation was a one-off publicity stunt.  However, how anyone wants Will is beyond my comprehension.  Although his sweater vests could be leverage for BINGO chips at my grandma's nursing home.

Edited January 11, 2015 by polodog

[kristabell]

Oh, my bad. I saw Eve whining so much about Paige not going to Stanford and trying her hardest to keep Paige away from JJ that I assumed that was the reason for her not going to California. Well, now I'm more confused by Eve than ever. At least the Stanford thing  seemed to give Eve some motivation for acting like a nutcase whose nuttiness would eventually lead her to  accidentally wind up in bed with her daughter's boyfriend. 

 

They made mention of the fact that Paige had possibly missed the deadline to apply for financial aid, but that the proceeds from the book/lawsuit would pay for the tuition. They certainly didn't make a big plot point out of it, and I'm sure Paige could get a scholarship and/or financial aid. Paige said several times that she didn't want to leave Eve to deal with the lawsuit by herself, though that was also dispatched within a couple of days and so was a moot point. Regardless, Eve obviously still thinks Paige stayed to be with JJ. And really I can't much blame her. If I had told my mom I was skipping college at a top-tier school to stay in podunk, wherever with my high school boyfriend, she would  have handcuffed herself to me and delivered me to the school herself.

 

ETA: Sorry, I'm a bit behind on the thread, but it was mentioned a few pages ago why Eve wants "better" for Paige than JJ. I don't think it has anything to do with JJ's socio-economic status or even his relationship with Jenn. Imo, Eve wants Paige to be better than her (Eve.) Eve sees JJ as a mini-Jack; in that analogy, Paige becomes Eve. Eve wants Paige to be better than she herself is. Therefore, JJ is not acceptable. 

Edited January 11, 2015 by kristabell

[bantering]

 

And really I can't much blame her. If I had told my mom I was skipping college at a top-tier school to stay in podunk, wherever with my high school boyfriend, she would  have handcuffed herself to me and delivered me to the school herself.

This seems like a much better plan than what Eve has come up with!!

[shesajar]

I think the writers just have the characters cheating for the hell of it, and then they try to fill in the blanks later.  That annoys the viewers who try to figure out what's going on in the SL because the writers couldn't be bothered to do their job.  It become even worse when the fans come up with better possible SLs in the process.  Then the SL plays out to its boring conclusion once again annoying the fans who had a better more entertaining ending in mind.  So many posters speculations in this thread about what might happen, or why something happened were way better than what eventually did happen on the show.

I will never understand why Show doesn't go for the obvious stories, especially when you have a character like Will, who we've known since his birth. There's a wealth of history (both his and his family's) that can be mined to give him motivation or reasons for behaving the way he does, even the cheating in this case, if they'd just bother to throw in a line or two a week about his past.

I'll forgive quite a bit if I'm being entertained, but at least once a week I wonder why they don't take advantage of having fully formed characters with well known pasts.

[bantering]

I wonder if the Will and Paul story is supposed to play out "ambiguously" the way the EJ and Abby story did -- where we're not sure if Will slept with Paul because of attraction or because he wants the scoop on Paul's sexuality or both. I know EJ frustrated people because we couldn't figure out what was going on with EJ (but I felt that was a writing issue too), but I did think JS played his part in such a way  that at least he managed to  convey that something strange or ambiguous was going on, but this Will doesn't seem as skilled at pulling that kind of ambiguity off. When he was making the faces in the shower, I was more confused by what Will was thinking than what EJ was. 

[ShadowSixx]

I wonder what Sami would think of his behavior? She would probably say, "Who's the slut now?" She should tell Sonny to get some revenge, get Sneasel fired from Sonix, basically do what she did to Jar Jar.

[TigerLynx]

I think Sami would be more supportive of Will than he was of her.

[bantering]

Also, Sami would stand between Will and everybody ready to throw insults at him.

 

[ShadowSixx]

What insults? He's a Horton, they would just bypass his actions and completely blame Sparkles for coming on and taking advantage of a poor, wittle, innocent, victimless, Sneasel. Sami wouldn't be defending much of anything.

[islandgal140]

I really would've appreciated a heads up on the Dan/Nicole sex. I had no idea that was coming and the last time I read this thread there was no mention of it, just Will/Paul stuff. I needed a chance to gird my loins and my stomach before subjecting myself to that sight. So imagine my surprise to see Dan and Nicole bumping uglies.

Way too many people people and so-called couples hopping into bed without so much as a single date. Country Clyde and Kate, Chad and Grimace, Dan and Nicole. Hell the list goes on and on. Feels like my ass is watching Days of Grindr or Tinder. I actually don't mind the quick hook up with Will and Paul. Sure the show could have played a few more beats of the story before having them hop into the sack but it doesn't seem like it is meant to be a love or even a like story so I'm good with it.

Ugh! Serena and Eric have those loud smacking kisses. Hate those.

I would have appreciated some remorse from Will. I didn't really see any. I guess maybe that shower scene was meant to convey it but it looked more like common gastritis to me.

Does that bellhop loiter outside of Sonny's hotel room all day long? Damn! Plus didn't he learn his lesson with the Nicole/Serena situation to not be letting random people into guest's rooms?

That must be some magic rattle giving both Theresa and Melanie lost baby feels. Theresa getting the crack head shakes over it was a bit much for me. If a rattle makes her that upset what happens when she has to walk by the maternity ward? Jen Lilley was good in her scenes but I hate this storyline mainly because I think the writers decision to bring a baby into the Brady/Theresa dynamic is just so much whatthefuckery. What am I supposed to feel about this situation? There are 2 pretty awful people for different reasons who had their fetus jacked by the town psycho. It is literally in every sense a lesser of 2 evils situation. Am I just supposed to watch Brady chip away and go thank goodness you are out of my life and Theresa fake bravado with Brady while silently wanting him from afar until the Kristen circus rolls back into town? No body in this situation should be allowed to breed. Nobody. Then adding Melanie to the dynamic. Why?

I have to say that I am also resentful because this s/l would have resonated so much more if it had been Nicole instead of Theresa. I just hate that this newcomer gets a kid and another tie to the show and Nicole continues to dangle with nothing really to anchor her securely on the show. Plus, with Nicole's history of infertility and miscarriage, not to mention her kidnapping Sydney, it would have some karmic undertones.

Edited January 12, 2015 by islandgal140

[271days]

Nicole was looking pretty rough after the Danicole sex scenes. It's like Dan screwed the life out of her. I felt a bit weird watching that since AZ and SC are a real life couple.

Agree about having Nicole be the one with Brady's baby. It would have kept everything within Eric/Nicole/Brady/Kristen and having the two brothers connected through Nicole would have been soapy. But of course they have to make everything about Melanie now. All that foreshadowing about Melanie's miscarriage with Phillip makes me think that Theresa won't even get to be a mother to her own child. This story reminds me of Chloe/Daniel/Jennifer so much.

Edited January 12, 2015 by 271queenie

[271days]

Also, Sami would stand between Will and everybody ready to throw insults at him.

I know hypocrisy is rife on soaps, but if the Good People of Salem gathered in the Horton Town Square to stone Will for cheating/adultery, he would probably only be hit by a few stray pebbles.

I know many have said that Will will probably get off lightly because he's a Horton, but with the way Lucas and Will have been treated in the past, I wouldn't be so sure. This will be a good litmus test.

It's going to be poetic justice for Will to be exposed in print (that's how I suspect it will happen), but I will be annoyed if certain characters let him have it when they had nothing to say about Abby. The bad news for Will is that Sonny isn't Sami, so nobody is going be unsympathetic and say that he shouldn't have been surprised by this turn of events.

[shesajar]

It seems to me that only the Devereaux branch of the Horton family tree is untouchable. I know they're the only ones featured right now, but historically, the Hortons have been held just as accountable for their actions than other, supposedly non-evil families. 

[LeftPhalange]

 

What insults? He's a Horton, they would just bypass his actions and completely blame Sparkles for coming on and taking advantage of a poor, wittle, innocent, victimless, Sneasel. Sami wouldn't be defending much of anything.

 

Will and Lucas are the lower tier Hortons so I'm not sure how many other Hortons would come to Will's defense, especially since Super Evil and Mean Sami is his mother. I don't even know how I feel about the potentially lack of sympathy from the rest of Salem. On the one hand, it would serve him right for the way he treated Sami. On the other hand, I'm tired of only a select few Hortons getting free passes while everyone else gets shamed. The Hortons are trash just like everyone else in Salem and they need to recognize that.

[bantering]

Lucas is a Horton, but no one seemed to care that Daniel had an affair with his wife. 

You'd think Jennifer would have been more supportive to Lucas about that, but no.

 

Even when it comes to the Devereaux, I think it's only the female ones that get the teflon treatment. JJ seems to be judged more harshly. Jennifer came to Abigail's defence when the affair with EJ came out, but I'm not sure if she will react the same way when the Eve stuff with JJ is revealed. I could see her sending JJ away to some kind of boot camp for that. Maybe that's why I'm a little sympathetic to JJ - I don't think he's going to get off scot free.  

Edited January 12, 2015 by bantering

[271days]

Lucas is a Horton, but no one seemed to care that Daniel had an affair with his wife.

You'd think Jennifer would have been more supportive to Lucas about that, but no.

Even when it comes to the Devereaux, I think it's only the female ones that get the teflon treatment. JJ seems to be judged more harshly. Jennifer came to Abigail's defence when the affair with EJ came out, but I'm not sure if she will react the same way when the Eve stuff with JJ is revealed. I could see her sending JJ away to some kind of boot camp for that. Maybe that's why I'm a little sympathetic to JJ - I don't think he's going to get off scot free.

Speaking of JJ, I wonder how they are going to stagger the two reveals? All we might get is 'meh' reactions because in the past year alone, EJ, Rafe, JJ and Will have cheated, while Abby was the Other Woman. That's all TomSell know how to write these days.

At least if JJ and Will get lambasted, I'll finally have proof that Abby is being propped and that she is Jennifer's favorite.

Edited January 12, 2015 by 271queenie

[Lastwaltz]

ETA: Sorry, I'm a bit behind on the thread, but it was mentioned a few pages ago why Eve wants "better" for Paige than JJ. I don't think it has anything to do with JJ's socio-economic status or even his relationship with Jenn. Imo, Eve wants Paige to be better than her (Eve.) Eve sees JJ as a mini-Jack; in that analogy, Paige becomes Eve. Eve wants Paige to be better than she herself is. Therefore, JJ is not acceptable. 

 

Kristabell, I think you nailed this. And Eve even went so far as to prove just how unsuitable JJ is by sleeping with him herself. With all the WilSon kerfuffling last week, I almost forgot about my lovesick teens! Hope we hear from them this week -- although it will be upsetting to me, no doubt. 

[TeeVee329]

You know, I was thinking, now - with the reveal of Will's cheating looming for Sonny and with whatever's going on with Adrienne/off-screen Justin/Lucas - would be a great time to introduce one of Sonny's brothers.

[Sandman]

Perhaps Will's next relationship needs to be with someone who isn't a club owner at 25 and (up to now) was the perfect husband and father. I think part of Will's problem is that he is comparing himself to Sonny and that is fueling his own insecurities about his lack of success.

 

This would be a really interesting story, and it might in fact be what the show is aiming for. But as much I want to see it this way, I don't think Wilson's performance is strong enough to support such a reading. I don't think we're actually seeing this onscreen. The writing is too rushed, and the performance too shallow, to allow any real impact.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Sandman

[shesajar]

Lucas is a Horton, but no one seemed to care that Daniel had an affair with his wife. 

You'd think Jennifer would have been more supportive to Lucas about that, but no.

 

Even when it comes to the Devereaux, I think it's only the female ones that get the teflon treatment. JJ seems to be judged more harshly. Jennifer came to Abigail's defence when the affair with EJ came out, but I'm not sure if she will react the same way when the Eve stuff with JJ is revealed. I could see her sending JJ away to some kind of boot camp for that. Maybe that's why I'm a little sympathetic to JJ - I don't think he's going to get off scot free.  

Jennifer's treatment of JJ is what totally turned me against her. Throwing him out of the house, telling other family members not to help him...not nice. To atone for that, I won't be mad at her if she surprises me and puts the blame all on Eve. It's totally wrong and unfair, but I'd like to see JJ get some of the same unconditional love and support that his undeserving sister has gotten. 

[271days]

This would be a really interesting story, and it might in fact be what the show is aiming for. But as much I want to see it this way, I don't think Wilson's performance is strong enough to support such a reading. I don't think we're actually seeing this onscreen. The writing is too rushed, and the performance too shallow to allow any real impact.

Agree, in fact this is mostly my fanwanking. Don't laugh, but I watched an episode of Glee where Blaine was jealous of Kurt's success, and that's how the idea was put in my head.

I relate to Will because I tend to be very insecure and I love Sonny because I tend to be attracted to people that are very authentic and comfortable with themselves. A side effect of that is that you can end up beating yourself up for not reaching their level.

[QuelleC]

It would be totally unfair to put the blame on Eve?  The kid is effing 18.  Even as a mother of a 25 yr old if someone pushing 50 wants to ruin my kid's life emotionally, at the least, it would be wrong.  AS IF I would ever consider dating one of his friends, to turn it the other way.  It's sick and Jenn had better be behind him 100% or I will write to show for the first time ever.  What's almost as sick is Jenn's hovering yet not having a clue what fucked up kids she has. 

[shesajar]

I mostly agree with you, QuelleC; though I do think JJ bears some responsibility, he's been portrayed as very emotionally vulnerable. I don't necessarily think Eve consciously took advantage of him, but as the far more experienced adult in the situation, she was in a much better position to stop whatever was happening. Morally, I think Eve is WAY more in the wrong simply because of Paige. 

[kitmerlot1213]

I think GW was actually trying to look guilty today during Sneasel's conversation with Kate.  At least I took his weird blinking and facial expressions whenever Paul's name was mentioned as guilt.

 

I can't stand Rafe and I hate that he's getting another chance to stay in Salem under the guise of running Victor's new club.  

 

There's an insincerity in Serena's line delivery that I'm finding to be very off putting. Maybe the actress is trying too hard to come across as likeable?  Whatever it is, I'm growing increasingly suspicious of her and I want Nicole to find dirt :)

Edited January 12, 2015 by kitmerlot1213

[Sandman]

Plus there's that whole thing where Eve's argument is irreparably weakened because she set out to "prove" JJ's untrustworthiness by ... being untrustworthy herself. It's only marginally less crazy than Kristen's and Jawn's scheming each to provide proof of the other's worthlessness to Brady by sleeping together; I say "marginally less crazy" because, for one thing, it doesn't rely on Brady's armour-piercing stupidity, and it lacks that mutuality of scumsuckery that Jawn and Kristen so love to revel in.

 

Nice way to make sure your daughter never trusts you or anyone ever again, Suddenly Southern, you dolt. 

Edited January 12, 2015 by Sandman

[bantering]

Maybe the Eve and JJ thing would seem less weird (especially from Eve's end) if I could remember that Eve is supposed to be in her 40s. 

 

I think the fact that I keep thinking she's 53 or whatever colors my reaction of how I feel Eve should have behaved with him. Or maybe if JJ was older, like 21 or so, when Lewinsky was with Clinton, I'd be less inclined to put so much on Eve and more on JJ.  Somehow 21 sounds more acceptable than 18 (even though 18 is legal). 

 

There's a movie with J-Lo coming out called The Boy Next Door, and  the pairing in the movie trailer did look a little less weird to me, but I'm not sure if that's because of how  J-Lo looks  -- and the fact that the teenager looked 30. (Not that I really think someone in their 40s would really be interested in a high schooler even if she looks like J-Lo, but somehow I was able to rationalize it better with her face and that boy's 30 year old muscles? Maybe it will turn out that he's a 30 year old impersonating an 18 year old??)

 

I guess I expect someone who is as towering and somewhat more mature looking like Eve to be ....wiser? There's a sort of disconnect between how Eve looks  and how she's acting that I don't get. 

Edited January 12, 2015 by bantering

[LeftPhalange]

I don't understand why Sonny continues to be so hardheaded. I understand if he doesn't want Victor to buy him a club outright but he could at least accept a loan from him or his parents. If he just gives up then he might as well have just taken the money from the joint accounts and set in on fire. 

 

Sparkle's desperation and unwillingness to accept that Sonny doesn't want him is really off putting. 

[kitmerlot1213]

Sparkle's desperation and unwillingness to accept that Sonny doesn't want him is really off putting. 

 

I think that's one of the reasons Paul is so interested in Sneasel--Will isn't putting up any sort of resistance and practically jumps on top of Paul to sleep with him, while Sonny's denying him left and right.

[TeeVee329]

I think that's one of the reasons Paul is so interested in Sneasel--Will isn't putting up any sort of resistance and practically jumps on top of Paul to sleep with him, while Sonny's denying him left and right.

 

Again, that's soap math.  Rejected by the one you want, seek comfort with the one who wants you.

[worleybird]

Serena seemed awful curious about the African artifacts Eric had in his apartment last week. "Is that all you have?" Like maybe there would be hidden diamonds in some of them? Is she (or someone behind her) in the smuggling business? Some of the artifacts super expensive  by themselves?

[ShadowSixx]

BOllie really needs to kill the attitude or someone please put us out of our misery and kill him.  What's with that look Jar Jar gave after Chad left?? Is KM trying to play Jar Jar as complicated or something?? I'll just chalk it up to bad acting as usual. Can BOllie & Jar Jar talk about something other than Chad, Grimace, or Mr. Rapey?? 97% of their conversations revolve around them three. They're so lacking in the depth and substance department that other characters have to prop them and pretty much lousy characters at that with the exception of Chad.

 

I'm so glad Kate was able to draw that out that Mr. Rapey is the donor, all so Chad won't take credit for Mr. Rapey donating the money. BOllie did that to possibly show that his father isn't a bad guy after all. IDIOT!!! Nevertheless I'm happy that Anne and Kate are there to possibly throw wrenches in their plans.

 

Uhhh Kate when is Sneasel ever nice? Did she take some drugs before speaking to that gerbil? Can Sneasel at least show a little guilt on his face. He has that, "I don't feel guilty" look on his face. Proves GW just sucks cause if that was his attempt at looking guilty, he needs to dust his ass off and try again.

 

Sparkles stop trying to get Sonny to have sex and be with you. How many times does Sonny have to say, "I'm not interested." Sonny has more restraint, he doesn't go hopping into bed or giving up on his marriage just because your wittle career is down the crapper. Quit licking them lips Sparkles you're not LL Cool J. Must be horrible kissing him always having wet lips *shudder*.

 

Sneasel is a real piece of shit. Sonny once again trying to talk to him and he can't be bothered once again. Sonny asked him to let that phone go to voice mail but he couldn't even do that for his husband. Then he acts all put upon because he has to work like Sonny hasn't been paying the bills while his ass was jobless and floating around being a big worthless nothing casting judgments on other people.

 

Go Nicole get that bitch Shrewena McCrazy Eyes, I bet she's no better than Nicole. Them photos of Eric was a little disturbing.

[271days]

I knew Rafe would end up managing Victor's club because there is no way Sonny would take a handout. I do think he is being a bit silly seeing as he has no money. Does Sonny still have a stake in TBD? Because this club would be direct competition regardless of whether Sonny or Rafe runs it. Is this new club in the same area as TBD? Because the other club was on the other side of Salem.

Serena wants that elephant and looks like it's all about to go down with the Poplar Bluff gang.

Watching Will and Sonny live past each other is getting more painful by the day. If they could devote half the attention that they each give to Paul to each other, they might make it.

Looks like Will did feel like crap, and at least he doesn't want to out Paul yet. Paul seems to have been inspired to come out because of Sonny, but I have a feeling he will backtrack and I wonder what Will will do then?

Paul was right to call Sonny out on the fact that he gives mixed signals since he is always willing to meet up. I also expected Paul to explain about his guest, but was pleasantly surprised when he told the truth about his pitching career. I knew Paul's family was going to end up being the sticking point, just in time for Mama Narita's arrival in Salem.

The part I did not like was Sonny telling Paul that he and Will are working on things when Paul asked if he was happy. I don't approve of married people discussing their marital problems with people they are attracted to. This kind of information will only serve to encourage Paul.

Big anvil when Sonny said that honesty is important to him and Will, but it's kind of ironic since Sonny himself has told quite a few lies since Paul arrived.

I wanted to reach through the screen and beat Will over the head for giving Paul a way in, because Will is the one who took the vows. Sonny is currently able to live a more open life with Will, but that is all going to change once Paul is outed and Will's infidelity comes to light.

Once everything is out in the open, Sonny will have to choose between fighting for his marriage to Will, or rekindling his relationship with Paul. Both Will and Paul have made mistakes,so it just depends on how much love there is for each man. If Sonny wanted to be with Paul, I don't think Will cheating would be a deciding factor. The feelings are either there or they aren't.

Edited January 12, 2015 by 271queenie

[TeeVee329]

If Sonny wanted to be with Paul, I don't think Will cheating would be a deciding factor.

 

Yeah, but it'll be a factor because the cheating might alter or change Sonny's feelings about Will.

[271days]

Yeah, but it'll be a factor because the cheating might alter or change Sonny's feelings about Will.

Maybe I'm expressing it badly, but I was trying to say that I don't think it's going to come down to a pro/con list. Will cheating could definitely affect the way Sonny feels about him, but I don't think Sonny would stop loving him overnight.

[TeeVee329]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sonny pulls a Kelly Taylor, ends his marriage with Will while not immediately getting together with Paul, and then we'll have a period of them both openly pursuing him.

Edited January 12, 2015 by TeeVee329

[271days]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sonny pulls a Kelly Taylor, ends his marriage with Will while not immediately getting together with Paul, and then we'll have a period of them both openly pursuing him.

Can you just picture him making them work for it and then saying: 'I choose me'? Paul would definitely be Dylan in this scenario.

[TeeVee329]

Can you just picture him making them work for it and then saying: 'I choose me'? Paul would definitely be Dylan in this scenario.

 

I was more saying that Sonny wouldn't immediately leap from Will to Paul once the cheating is exposed.

[Sandman]

Psst, Sonny! Go see if Brian's busy, boychik. Leave these two self-adoring fartfaces behind. Except I honestly don't think Sonny would just abandon his marriage vows (or Ari G., come to that).

Edited January 12, 2015 by Sandman

[bannana]

Will sleeping with Paul was surprising, but not entirely unexpected.  What I don't yet get is whether Will has a second agenda, in that he now has some power over Paul, because he knows what no one else does.

 

I think JJ sleeping with Eve is a thousand times more confusing.  He should be repulsed by her (I know I am and I love KDP).  I want JJ to tell Paige he slept with Eve.  He has nothing to lose now.

[TeeVee329]

I want JJ to tell Paige he slept with Eve. 

 

Oh no, I need Paige to walk in on JJ and Eve doing it.  Because she's very annoying and [Friends quote]Janice likes to have her fun hahahahaha[/Friends quote].

Edited January 12, 2015 by TeeVee329

[Rick Kitchen]

Are we supposed to be liking Serena?  Because right now, she's coming across as a screeching shrew, and totally unlikeable.  I'm rooting for anonymous guy on the phone, right now (the closed captioning btw identifies him as "Ted").

[Rick Kitchen]

Serena seemed awful curious about the African artifacts Eric had in his apartment last week. "Is that all you have?" Like maybe there would be hidden diamonds in some of them? Is she (or someone behind her) in the smuggling business? Some of the artifacts super expensive  by themselves?

 

Excellent point. That had me curious, as well.

Please tell me Victor isn't going to name the club "Maggie's".

 

Speaking of which, is this club going to be competing with her place, Chez Rouge?

[sometimesfan]

Are we supposed to be liking Serena?  Because right now, she's coming across as a screeching shrew, and totally unlikeable.  I'm rooting for anonymous guy on the phone, right now (the closed captioning btw identifies him as "Ted").

 

I like her. I like Nicole too, but Serena can be angry with Nicole. No matter what, Nicole broke into her room.

 

Serena isn't going to be Kristen Dimera Part 2. She's obviously not everything Eric thinks she is, but she also doesn't seem evil. Nicole will eventually feel guilty (she always does) and will wind up helping out Serena.

Edited January 12, 2015 by sometimesfan