Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, Rowan said:

I'll give Drake this, despite his questionable acting choices over the years, he has made multiple romantic pairings outside the one with DH work.

 

Yeah. Drake is no Olivier, but he had charm and could generate chemistry with many love interests or even women floated as love interests. (Remember that blonde shrink, Whitney Something? Or that woman Rebecca that popped up not long after Isabella died?) I think he even did manage fans of John with Kate, at one point.

I remember some tangling amongst John/Marlena and John/Kate fans. And on soaps, one who can generate chemistry is an asset. Perhaps that helped Drake's standing over the years.

[Sandman]

3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

...provided they don't bring her back someday to have her rape people or steal embryos or try to execute folks anymore.

Yes, well, therein lies my real problem with the character, of course. Or rather, with the writers.

[Apprentice79]

3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Y'all better be careful now cause y'all be startin' to sound mean, mean, mean...!

After Paris, Marlena basically started stalking Kristen in order to prove that she wasn't really pregnant, to free her from the agreement that she willingly made to not pursue John for the sake of the baby. The mature thing for this psychologist to do would have been to just approach John and tell him flat out that she respects that he's with Kristen and that they're starting a family together but that she read the note that he wrote her and returns his feelings. All three adults could have gotten into a room together and agreed that they would put off making any decisions about their future until after the baby was born for the sake of Kristen getting through the pregnancy. Instead Marlena followed Kristen around uninvited to doctor's appointments - who the hell does that? - and basically rubbed her hands and licked her lips together for the chance to find any excuse to remind Kristen she had her by the balls. Now I realize Kristen may have played a part in Marlena getting abducted and locked in the cage in Paris (details foggy there), and I'm not entirely sure how much Marlena knew about Kristen's involvement with all of that. Obviously if she knew Kristen had participated in her abduction then she would have even more reason to want Kristen away from John. I just think there was a mature way to handle things. Marlena didn't choose that path in spite of supposedly being someone of high morals.

Of course we're talking about a storyline that was wildly entertaining because it stretched plausibility. All John had to do to figure out that Kristen wasn't pregnant was touch his pregnant fiancee. You mean to tell me that no point in 6 months when Kristen was playing herself did John reach over and touch her belly only to discover it was a pillow? Pretty much the least realistic thing going on.

But I definitely do feel Marlena schemed against Kristen during that time. Not to Kristen's standards, of course, but never the less Marlena had an agenda and showed Kristen very little sympathy. Again, she's supposed to be in tune to people's emotions and traumas. If she knew Kristen was so unhinged as to have her kidnapped and then try to fake a pregnancy with a pillow under her shirt, perhaps Marlena could have actually showed her friend some sympathy and gotten her some help. They had known each other for years and been mutually respectful about their involvement in John's life. It didn't have to be a competition where Marlena could easily take the high road because she hadn't lost the baby and John's heart had waffled back in her direction.

One thing that I always found a little strange about the storyline was that John seemed dead set on having a family with Kristen but the minute she was revealed to have never been pregnant he dumped her. And said he never loved her at all. Pretty brutal. Do you guys think that if Kristen actually had been pregnant with John's kid that he would have stayed with her and they would have had a happy life in spite of him still having feelings for Marlena? It's a pretty interesting "what if" to consider.

For her crimes? She didn't get half of what she deserved. But, I think it's easy to forget how Kristen and John were legitimately happy together for a long time prior to Lady in a Cage. I definitely think this is a case of Kristen's misdeeds inviting everyone to paint over the fact that she and her man really were happy as a couple and that she was a good person. It's not like the show took two months to tell us Kristen was a good gal and then immediately had her go off and be crazy. She was a good person on the show for years. I think that's part of why I find her so compelling and still do.

...provided they don't bring her back someday to have her rape people or steal embryos or try to execute folks anymore.

So, Kristen was the poor innocent victim and Marlena was the scheming bitch. We all see things differently.  I remember an Ava Stan saying this about Kayla, when it came to Steve. Kayla should have left Steve alone and  that Steve as Nick was very happy with Ava.  If the show wanted to bring back a female Dimera, then they should have brought back Renee. She was more misguided than evil.

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said:

 

Yeah. Drake is no Olivier, but he had charm and could generate chemistry with many love interests or even women floated as love interests. (Remember that blonde shrink, Whitney Something? Or that woman Rebecca that popped up not long after Isabella died?) I think he even did manage fans of John with Kate, at one point.

I remember some tangling amongst John/Marlena and John/Kate fans. And on soaps, one who can generate chemistry is an asset. Perhaps that helped Drake's standing over the years.

Drake as Roman was the best Roman. While Wayne was the better actor and had the best brother chemistry with Peter as Bo. Drake was mesmerizing and had fantastic chemistry with Christie as Carrie. The best father/daughter team in daytime. I loved Rojohn with Diana, Isabella and Marlena. His romance with Diana was so light-hearted and fun. Their coming together in Greece was awesome. She really did heal him after Marlena died. I always wanted to see her reaction to Marlena coming back from the dead. She was so threatened by the ghost of Marlena. She was a great mom to Carrie, Eric and Sami. If John had to have a long lost son, then, he should have been from Diana.

Edited September 21, 2017 by Apprentice79

[Silver Raven]

When did Nicole put in a hard day's work at the Center?  She was gone all day.

Brady, you are such a hypocritical asshole.

Eli could always go work for Black Patch.

Interesting that they've been mentioning Brandon a lot lately.

[SueB]

Brady asking about the phone call with Abe was uber creepy.  He's been spiraling downward for a while but that scene was chilling.  He's emotionally abusing both Nicole and Eric.  

[A.J.]

8 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

How about she stays dead and never come back.. I don't understand why the show keeps bringing back characters like Ava and Kristen back...They are not necessary. However, Stefanie, Carrie, Sami, Belle, Sarah Horton, Noelle Curtis, Mike Horton, Shawn-Douglas and many others are characters that are worthy of a comeback..They still have stories to be told..

Sami is the only person on that list who creates major sparks on Days.  Kristen has that spark and then some which is why she is constantly brought back. 

10 hours ago, Sandman said:

And, I'm sorry, her relationship with the father of her half-sister just creeps me the hell out -- even if it began a generation or more ago.*

Are you saying John and Sami slept together?  If so, I don't remember that. 

[DisneyBoy]

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So, Kristen was the poor innocent victim and Marlena was the scheming bitch. 

Well no, no one is saying that. But if Marlena was the one with her mind intact and she could see things more clearly than Kristen, who had previously been a friend, why not try and step in like a good doctor and nip things in the bud by being honest and getting things out in the open? I doubt John would have dumped Kristen on the spot while she were preggers just because Marlena said she'd read the letter...oddly I think Kristen would have come off sympathetically if John had to ask himself out in the open whch woman to be with. He might have even stayed with her out of pity following the miscarriage if he'd known...

In any case, I really hated all the telenovella -esque screeching ED was asked to do as well. Her fights with glasses, garbage cans, pictures of Jesus, etc...were lame. When used sparingly, it can be powerful. But they had her doing it every other week almost and was tiresome.

Now back on topic, what did Brady say to Eric at the Centre to make Eric reference Kristen and the rape..? I couldn't understand Marstoff's line reading.

[JBC344]

1 hour ago, A.J. said:

Sami is the only person on that list who creates major sparks on Days.  Kristen has that spark and then some which is why she is constantly brought back. 

Are you saying John and Sami slept together?  If so, I don't remember that. 

The poster was referring to Julie and Doug. 

[Frozendiva]

Brady is coming off as increasingly controlling and unhinged. Run, Nicole. You have a lot of skills and your own little baby. You can probably also afford to support both of yourselves. None of Brady's business that she was talking with Abe - she could mention it but it really shouldn't make him go crazy.

Both Hope and Rafe vying for the Commissioner job? Please give it to someone else.

Abs' annulment sure went through fast. Too much of a rush to get re-married.  Time, meds, therapy or other counselling first.

No rich Hortons to give money to Eric's Centre so he can afford staff? Julie didn't need to buy Club TBD - the good Horton dough could have been put toward jobs for people.

[A.J.]

1 hour ago, JBC344 said:

The poster was referring to Julie and Doug. 

Thanks for the clarification. 

[jaylee-03031]

This week has been such a snooze.  The only thing keeping my interest this week is Lucas and Will, Eli and Gabi, and JJs' sexy scruff. oh and I do enjoy seeing Rafe.  The Lucas, Jenn, Kate, and Maggie scenes were really powerful yesterday.  I was almost in tears watching those scenes.

Brady is such a controlling and possessive neanderthal but  I had to chuckle when Nicole said Eric let her go and Brady of course assumed Eric fired her but Nicole was all confused.  Well if anyone said that their boss let them go, one would think the person was fired.  Normally someone would say my boss let me leave early not my boss let me go, lol.

What the heck is with Chad stuttering all the time?  I don't remember this character stuttering when Casey plaid him so maybe it is a new character trait but it is so annoying and poor baby you can't have sex for a few days.  Oh the horrors, insert sarcasm here. 

I really hope we get some Steve and Kayla scenes soon because I really miss seeing them on my screen. 

Damn, Eli is so fine!  I love how he's a gamer- such a fun character quirk and I really am enjoying Gabi and Eli together.

Speaking of super fine Eli, I want Eli to be the police commissioner.  Hope and Rafe should not get that promotion after the whole murder and cover up.  I would love to see the conflict that Eli being Rafe's boss after Rafe gets him fired would bring.  That would fun and I hope we get to see Gabi go off on Rafe for getting Eli fired. 

[salvame]

4 hours ago, JBC344 said:

5 hours ago, A.J. said:

Sami is the only person on that list who creates major sparks on Days.  Kristen has that spark and then some which is why she is constantly brought back. 

Are you saying John and Sami slept together?  If so, I don't remember that. 

The poster was referring to Julie and Doug. 

I thought it was Julie, Doug and the half sister is Hope?

Edited September 22, 2017 by salvame
same thing twice, for some reason

[JBC344]

38 minutes ago, salvame said:

I thought it was Julie, Doug and the half sister is Hope?

It is.  There was some confusion because we were discussing how Julie was the "Sami" of her day, so when the plot of "sleeping with you half sister's father" was mentioned a poster was confused that we were referencing Julie and not Sami.

[msrachelj]

hard to believe the computer guy from tbd could not afford a $400,000 business after bragging about how much money he came into . then he says this would be his life savings. 

also julie (and hope) are very very wealthy. there's no way she couldn't afford to buy that place. without "chloe's" money.

 and of course it's not like you have to come up with $400,000 cash, you get a loan.

[Sandman]

7 hours ago, salvame said:

I thought it was Julie, Doug and the half sister is Hope?

Yeah -- sorry, I'm the original poster. I meant Julie's relationship with Doug creeps me out. Or maybe I should have said Doug's relationship with Julie, since apparently he pursued Addie after Julie? ("We were on a break!"?) My brief reference to Sami confused matters. I've edited the original post for clarity.

[SueB]

1 hour ago, msrachelj said:

hard to believe the computer guy from tbd could not afford a $400,000 business after bragging about how much money he came into . then he says this would be his life savings. 

also julie (and hope) are very very wealthy. there's no way she couldn't afford to buy that place. without "chloe's" money.

 and of course it's not like you have to come up with $400,000 cash, you get a loan.

Maybe Julie's limited by how much money she's allowed to spend without telling Doug? In many marriages, they have a dollar threshold that doesn't require a discussion.  Now, $250K is a shit-ton of cash, but if she's that rich, then it's maybe her 'mad money'. 

[JBC344]

Is Julie really rich?  We know that Hope is wealthy because of her trust fund from Addie, but did Julie get money from Addie's estate? Or are Julie and Doug's money the accumulation of their earnings over X amount of decades?

[FnkyChkn34]

30 minutes ago, JBC344 said:

Is Julie really rich?  We know that Hope is wealthy because of her trust fund from Addie, but did Julie get money from Addie's estate? Or are Julie and Doug's money the accumulation of their earnings over X amount of decades?

It was always my understanding that Doug is also rich.  So Julie's money is Doug's money?

On that topic, doesn't it seem like everyone is just rich, for no reason?  Oh, you work one shift a month at the fro-yo place, but you can afford a huge house and expensive clothes and jewelry?  Yep, makes sense.  Samesies in the real world!  Every job pays $5,000/hr!

[nilyank]

9 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

It was always my understanding that Doug is also rich.  So Julie's money is Doug's money?

Doug was only rich because he inherited I think from Addie when she died. She used the lure of her money to get Doug interested in her.

[WendyCR72]

I would think all 3 of Addie's kids also inherited from her estate: Julie, Hope, and yeah folks, Addie had a son that seems to be forgotten, Steve Olson. I saw in an old SOD from the late '70s that, among those who have played the character included a pre-Another World Stephen Schnetzer.

But after him, I guess the character hasn't been seen or heard from since.

[Apprentice79]

8 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

I would think all 3 of Addie's kids also inherited from her estate: Julie, Hope, and yeah folks, Addie had a son that seems to be forgotten, Steve Olson. I saw in an old SOD from the late '70s that, among those who have played the character included a pre-Another World Stephen Schnetzer.

But after him, I guess the character hasn't been seen or heard from since.

Hope also has a brother from Doug. All of these characters could have been brought back to the show at some point in the history of the show..

[msrachelj]

37 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

It was always my understanding that Doug is also rich.  So Julie's money is Doug's money?

On that topic, doesn't it seem like everyone is just rich, for no reason?  Oh, you work one shift a month at the fro-yo place, but you can afford a huge house and expensive clothes and jewelry?  Yep, makes sense.  Samesies in the real world!  Every job pays $5,000/hr!

i wish i had a job like the one's in salem. hardly ever work, make big bucks. live in beautiful home. etc!

1 hour ago, JBC344 said:

Is Julie really rich?  We know that Hope is wealthy because of her trust fund from Addie, but did Julie get money from Addie's estate? Or are Julie and Doug's money the accumulation of their earnings over X amount of decades?

i assumed julie got some of that money since addie was her mom too. also she and doug seemed to have done very well with his career. investments maybe?  i don't remember julie working. all the talk about traveling around the world. buying this and that. they sure seem beyond well off..

[TeeVee329]

Sonny (shirted) dreaming of being in bed with both Will (shirtless) and Paul (shirtless).

I see you, Ron!

[FnkyChkn34]

I'm also not sure how "rich" Hope actually is - I recall that in the year or so before Bo left, they had a brief storyline where they were worried about money.  It was finally brought up that two cop salaries weren't making them millionaires, and the Salem PD had to cut back.  I think it's one of the reasons Bo left the force, saying that he wasn't going to tolerate a pay-cut and that he'd find something else to do.  I can't remember if they resolved the storyline by finally admitting that Hope had an inheritance?  I know Bo refused to take Victor's "dirty" money.

[Apprentice79]

7 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I'm also not sure how "rich" Hope actually is - I recall that in the year or so before Bo left, they had a brief storyline where they were worried about money.  It was finally brought up that two cop salaries weren't making them millionaires, and the Salem PD had to cut back.  I think it's one of the reasons Bo left the force, saying that he wasn't going to tolerate a pay-cut and that he'd find something else to do.  I can't remember if they resolved the storyline by finally admitting that Hope had an inheritance?  I know Bo refused to take Victor's "dirty" money.

Hope being a spoiled princess was one of the things that was a trait of  hers. It is part of the reason people scoffed, when she expressed the desire to be a cop.. 

[msrachelj]

9 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I'm also not sure how "rich" Hope actually is - I recall that in the year or so before Bo left, they had a brief storyline where they were worried about money.  It was finally brought up that two cop salaries weren't making them millionaires, and the Salem PD had to cut back.  I think it's one of the reasons Bo left the force, saying that he wasn't going to tolerate a pay-cut and that he'd find something else to do.  I can't remember if they resolved the storyline by finally admitting that Hope had an inheritance?  I know Bo refused to take Victor's "dirty" money.

she is super rich. she has a trust fund, money from "modeling"( i don't remember when she did this). she even mentioned once about not liking to talk about how much $$  there is. she doesn't have to work. and as i said before, i find her unbelievable as a cop/detective. it would have been more realistic if she did something along the lines of human (or animal, dare i say? they seem to be forgotten on tv)  community, relations/welfare, etc.

wasn't her money one of the reasons aiden hooked up with her?

5 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Hope being a spoiled princess was one of the things that was a trait of  hers. It is part of the reason people scoffed, when she expressed the desire to be a cop.. 

 because it is not believable. she surely was a spoiled little princess!

i am taken out of the show every time i see her acting as a police woman. especially when she was in uniform and not a detective. 

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, msrachelj said:

she is super rich. she has a trust fund, money from "modeling"( i don't remember when she did this). she even mentioned once about not liking to talk about how much $$  there is. she doesn't have to work. and as i said before, i find her unbelievable as a cop/detective. it would have been more realistic if she did something along the lines of human (or animal, dare i say? they seem to be forgotten on tv)  community, relations/welfare, etc.

wasn't her money one of the reasons aiden hooked up with her?

Hope was more believable as a cop, before she died in the cruise of deception.

[msrachelj]

1 minute ago, Apprentice79 said:

Hope was more believable as a cop, before she died in the cruise of deception.

didn't she used to wear high heels with her uniform?!

[TeeVee329]

12 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Hope being a spoiled princess was one of the things that was a trait of  hers. It is part of the reason people scoffed, when she expressed the desire to be a cop.. 

This reminds me of a scene where Vivian shows up at Bo and Hope's house to snipe with Carly and comments on the furniture, dragging it for being all a public servant can afford, and then she remembers that Hope has money and goggles that the décor is on purpose.

Oh Viv.

Edited September 22, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, msrachelj said:

didn't she used to wear high heels with her uniform?!

I don't remember..lol. I do remember that I loved her adventures with Bo back in the day. Bo and Hope have not been as fun and lively as they were once. I blame it on horrible writing that they were given. Don't get me started on that Princess Gina crap, that is a rant for another day. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, JBC344 said:

Is Julie really rich?  We know that Hope is wealthy because of her trust fund from Addie, but did Julie get money from Addie's estate? Or are Julie and Doug's money the accumulation of their earnings over X amount of decades?

Plus, she's being paid a very generous stipend by all the cruise ship companies to never darken their doors again.

I think it's mainly because she polished off all the big shrimp by the second day onboard.

[FnkyChkn34]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Hope being a spoiled princess was one of the things that was a trait of  hers. It is part of the reason people scoffed, when she expressed the desire to be a cop.. 

I always thought she did well with the detective type storylines, like going undercover with Bo.  Didn't they do that sometimes?  They were P.I.s?  

[Apprentice79]

12 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I always thought she did well with the detective type storylines, like going undercover with Bo.  Didn't they do that sometimes?  They were P.I.s?  

They had adventures in Miami with Kim and Shane. They were also in that dragon storyline in London with Kim and Shane that intersected with their wedding.  They were involved with Britta, Steve and Kayla. They also had that adventure with Rojohn, Marlena, Shane and Kim that culminated in Shane delivering Andrew.  They were a part of the Stockholm story, where Bo went undercover at Victor's house pretending to accept him as a dad.  The cruise of deception that ended with her death at the hands of Ernesto.  I have to  also mention New Orleans, Oak Alley.  So many memories of Bo and Hope and why they are a supercouple... I feel that the only time that Bo and Hope were themselves after Hope came back from the dead, was in Aremid...They were written out of character to facilitate the Bo and Billie pairing, since they were JER's signature couple.  He did everything in his horrific writing to destroy them..

Edited September 22, 2017 by Apprentice79

[swtrgrl]

OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD.

I'm dying. Shirtless Chandler and Shirtless Christopher in bed with Freddie. FF dreams come true. 

Also, way to lie to Paul about your dream, Sonny.

I'm not finished watching yet but whew. Love this.

[JBC344]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I'm also not sure how "rich" Hope actually is - I recall that in the year or so before Bo left, they had a brief storyline where they were worried about money.  It was finally brought up that two cop salaries weren't making them millionaires, and the Salem PD had to cut back.  I think it's one of the reasons Bo left the force, saying that he wasn't going to tolerate a pay-cut and that he'd find something else to do.  I can't remember if they resolved the storyline by finally admitting that Hope had an inheritance?  I know Bo refused to take Victor's "dirty" money.

Hope is definitely rich, she has millions.  It has actually been a recurring subject on the show over the years.  It came up with the "Aiden tries to kill Hope" plot.  Before that I remember it coming up when Bo and Hope left the force and became PI's for a little while.  Hope used some of her money, to Bo's objection to get their business started.

Hope has always maintained that she never likes to "use/bring up" the money.  She has always considered it a safety net that she never uses.  Hell, she could live off the interest and still not have to work and upgrade her lifestyle.

[FnkyChkn34]

2 minutes ago, JBC344 said:

Hope is definitely rich, she has millions.  It has actually been a recurring subject on the show over the years.  It came up with the "Aiden tries to kill Hope" plot.  Before that I remember it coming up when Bo and Hope left the force and became PI's for a little while.  Hope used some of her money, to Bo's objection to get their business started.

Hope has always maintained that she never likes to "use/bring up" the money.  She has always considered it a safety net that she never uses.  Hell, she could live off the interest and still not have to work and upgrade her lifestyle.

Well... doesn't this show that she's not just some spoiled bratty princess then?  If she'd rather work and not use the money she inherited, then I'd say she's the opposite of a spoiled princess.

[Apprentice79]

8 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Well... doesn't this show that she's not just some spoiled bratty princess then?  If she'd rather work and not use the money she inherited, then I'd say she's the opposite of a spoiled princess.

It was part of her characterization at the beginning. She had a contentious relationship with Julie and was Doug's spoiled princess. She was grounded by Tom and Alice. Plus, it was part of her dynamic with Bo who was himself a hothead who also had strain relationships with his dad Shawn and big brother Roman who was their dad's favorite.. Becoming a cop, was part of her evolution on the show.  The writers used to put in the work, to create a character and giving them layers and contradictions that would serve to create conflict..

Edited September 22, 2017 by Apprentice79

[swtrgrl]

Seriously, PaulSon? You've waited until the night before your wedding to discuss WilSon? Really? You've had like 2 years to do this. Why the night before?

And, really, Abby...you set a wedding date before you get your previous sham marriage annulled? AND you really should be prosecuted for said sham marriage. It's illegal to lie to immigration about fake marriages for green cards.

[Apprentice79]

12 minutes ago, swtrgrl said:

Seriously, PaulSon? You've waited until the night before your wedding to discuss WilSon? Really? You've had like 2 years to do this. Why the night before?

And, really, Abby...you set a wedding date before you get your previous sham marriage annulled? AND you really should be prosecuted for said sham marriage. It's illegal to lie to immigration about fake marriages for green cards.

Paulson was supposed to be a quick remedy for killing Will.  Dena and Josh had no interest in Paul or Paulson for that matter.  Paul was never developed, he is such a blank canvas, writers can go in any direction. He does not have a long history with the show, where fans like me can cry foul, when they write him out of character.  I hope that Ron makes Paul dark and manipulative, he was more interesting when he came on the show. Once he became the second coming, he lost any appeal that he had. 

[TeeVee329]

*shrug* I like Paul fine, and I think Ron does too, though I'll have to keep an eye out for any Brody/Schuyler heel turns towards the favored couple.  And I don't think discarding a gay character just because he ends up on the outside of this love triangle - and one who, I believe, is the only Asian-American regular character on US soaps today - is that great an idea.

Relatedly, I liked Paul talking Japanese to his mom/grandfather.  That was a very nice, very Ron touch.

Edited September 22, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Silver Raven]

Is Julie running the Horton Center, or is she just a sponsor?

"It isn't every day you see your daughter trying on a wedding dress."  On this show?

Brady is such an asshole.

And Eric is a coward.

Why was Paul speaking Japanese to his mother?  She speaks English.

[JBC344]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Well... doesn't this show that she's not just some spoiled bratty princess then?  If she'd rather work and not use the money she inherited, then I'd say she's the opposite of a spoiled princess.

Sure. Now it does.  Whoever brought up the spoiled princess comment was referring to Hope when she came on the show. It was part of her original dynamic with Bo.  He was the rough around the edges merchant marine, she was the spoiled rich girl.  Their original dynamic was the whole "opposites attract".

I think everyone is in agreement that Hope is a different person than when she was younger.

[drtslim]

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Why was Paul speaking Japanese to his mother?  She speaks English.

Personally, I have many friends whose parents are from other countries (where English is their second language) that speak English outside of the home; but when they are at home or just talking to each other (i.e. on the phone), they will speak in their native tongue.

Edited September 23, 2017 by drtslim

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, drtslim said:

Personally, I have many friends whose parents are from other countries (where English is their second language) that speak English outside of the home; but when they are home are just talking to each other (i.e. on the phone), they will speak in their native tongue.

Exactly! I never speak English with some of my relatives, especially, the older ones. 

Paul has spoken Japanese before on the show. 

[boes]

7 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Exactly! I never speak English with some of my relatives, especially, the older ones. 

Paul has spoken Japanese before on the show. 

I remember him talking to his grandfather in Japanese back when he first came to Salem.

[Silver Raven]

3 hours ago, boes said:

I remember him talking to his grandfather in Japanese back when he first came to Salem.

Right, but not his mother, that I can recall.

[Frozendiva]

Geez, Abs, you shouldn't plan a wedding without actually getting the annulment first. I am quite surprised that the US Immigration folks haven't had a chat with her about her 'marriage' and the K1 visa for 'Dario'. Not hugely surprised about Paul talking in Japanese to his mom. Seems to be a normal cultural thing.

Jen, Salem probably has a revolving door bridal shop. Don't see why Abs would need a gown. The ceremony should be a civil one, really.

Eric, please grow a spine and stand up to your abusive 'brother'.  He is becoming quite the little controller. His relationship with Nicole ain't gonna last and it won't be because of you.  It is because of his own crap and insecurities. And his approach to love as an outlet for his addictions.

[boes]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Geez, Abs, you shouldn't plan a wedding without actually getting the annulment first. I am quite surprised that the US Immigration folks haven't had a chat with her about her 'marriage' and the K1 visa for 'Dario'. Not hugely surprised about Paul talking in Japanese to his mom. Seems to be a normal cultural thing.

Jen, Salem probably has a revolving door bridal shop. Don't see why Abs would need a gown. The ceremony should be a civil one, really.

Eric, please grow a spine and stand up to your abusive 'brother'.  He is becoming quite the little controller. His relationship with Nicole ain't gonna last and it won't be because of you.  It is because of his own crap and insecurities. And his approach to love as an outlet for his addictions.

Yes yes yes.  This passivity of Eric's is an almost fatal flaw.  He's seen the damage Brady has done, over and over again, to himself and others so it's irresponsible, IMO, for Eric to not stand up to him.  Eric's overwhelming sense of guilt is very tiring.

[annabel]

so it looks like Abby's green card marriage may cause some problems. also, Sonny is behaving like a jerk again in regards to Titan (though in Sonny vs Brady who is the worst?) and it seems like Paul and Sonny have not talked about Will AT ALL; who'd like to lay odds that neither of these weddings are going to happen?