S05.E06: I've Got The Power

[OnceSane]

No episode description.

[bosawks]

If you ever find yourself in the position of saying "I was so livid about the lie detector" in a relationship then you probably need to rethink that "relationship".

I love Dick and his Jackie O sunglasses and Jenna continues to be a black hole of misery.

Edited October 16, 2014 by bosawks

[woodscommaelle]

Shut. Up. Nikki.  Jesus effing Christ.

And John, I think the world thanks you for not wearing shorts that let your balls hang out!

 

Jenna looked like such a broken little girl in her session with Dr. Jenn.  Little bit heartbreaking.

Edited October 16, 2014 by woodscommaelle

[Armchair Critic]

Jenna is a psycho drug addict, she needs way more help than this show can give and I don't see how her boyfriend puts up with her.

 

Nikki, if you have to work this hard at a new relationship it probably wasn't meant to be. Both her and Juan Pablo are unlikeable so maybe they deserve to make each other miserable.

Edited October 16, 2014 by Armchair Critic

[pasdetrois]

Does production pay more if you spill your deep secrets on national TV? Dick and Jenna must be real hard up for money. Trauma-for-cash. If you can work up tears you get extra.

 

ETA: I think Jenna was high when she was sitting slumped on her bed, drooping over her journal and barely able to form words. Interesting that Dick posited that she's in detox while there.

Edited October 16, 2014 by pasdetrois

[BusyOctober]

All of these people need to go through "conscious uncoupling" not couples therapy.  It will be more difficult for some than others since they are barely conscious at any given point in the day (thanks to detox/using (Jenna) and woeful lack of self awareness (Juan BLAH-blo)).

[Primetimer]

While Jenna shares with Dr. Jenn the horrific details of her past, Nikki and Juan Pablo are somehow still fighting about how he won't say 'I love you' even though, at this point, would you?

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[rubinia]

...I'm pretty sure Jenna talks about those rapes in her autobiography. Not that it makes it less difficult to have to talk about, but...it *is* already out there...

[RockyHorror64]

I remember years ago the E Hollywood story had Jenna on it and she also spoke about the rapes she went through. I know her mom died when she was like 2 years old. I remember her saying her dad was a cop and never around. Not sure about her older brother. Most women who get into the adult entertainment field have been abused sexually and physically and even verbally at some point in their young lives. It's a friggin shame. I feel for Jenna. I wish she would get the help she desperately needs. She has twin boys to think about. She gave up the adult industry for about five or six years. I think she can do it again if she wants to. At 40 something years old and with young children I would think she really does want something better for herself and for them. I'm surprised that she hasn't mentioned her children at all. I wonder if John has any children.

[Vivigirl10]

I have sooooo many questions about Jenna.  It must be a horrifying fate to find you've inevitably become an aged, drugged-out, mentally ill, used and abused, plastically altered, retired porn star.  Bleak.  But I'm torn with where the blame lies:  is Jenna responsible for her own demise because of her lifestyle choices or were her choices really not her own because they were a direct result of the abuse she suffered as a child/young woman??  I've heard things through the years about how intelligent in fact she really is and how she was an awesome debator against the critical conservatives.  Where is any remnant of that woman?  And am I mistaken or did she or did she not have children with Tito (maybe twins)?  Why aren't they being mentioned? 

 

Dr. Jenn makes my blood boil.  What an idiot.  The pat responses she gave to Jenna when she revealed she was raped where nothing beyond what my teenaged niece would know to tell a friend.  "It wasn't your fault".  Really?  "Professional", you can't offer anything more than that? 

 

We posted at the same time RockyHorror64 so thank you for answering my question about Jenna's children!

Edited October 16, 2014 by Kiki620

[RockyHorror64]

I remember also reading or hearing somewhere that Jenna was a straight A student when she was younger. Got a little more rebellious during her pre-teens and teens years as we all do, but this was most likely caused by her rapes. I kind of remember her saying on the E interview one of her boyfriends father raped her on a boat or something, but that he denied it, of course. I definitely don't blame Jenna for her life choices. I don't think there is anything wrong with the adult entertainment business if it's something you enjoy doing. As long as it's not forced upon you or you are being abused in any way. For Jenna. She did very well for herself in the business. Wanted to get out, did it. Had children with Tito Ortiz, but then something happened. I know she had a drug dependency when she was younger and I guess that is a hard habit to break when you need help loving yourself. She seems like someone that just needs to be held and reassured that she is a wonderful person and deserves so much better. I hope she can find her peace.

[panthergirl13]

What is with this "Doctor" Jenn?? Tearing up during Treach's apology? (I know she also had a breakdown after the one-on-one secret session with Teen Mom and that was insane too). I have never, ever seen such a thing and i've been in tons of therapy. I've tried my damndest to make my shrinks cry, but no dice.

 

Maybe she's a 'therapist' the same way Patti Stanger is a 'matchmaker who comes from a long line of matchmakers' (spoiler: she's not). 

[CottlestonPie]

What is with this "Doctor" Jenn?? Tearing up during Treach's apology? (I know she also had a breakdown after the one-on-one secret session with Teen Mom and that was insane too). I have never, ever seen such a thing and i've been in tons of therapy. I've tried my damndest to make my shrinks cry, but no dice.

 

Maybe she's a 'therapist' the same way Patti Stanger is a 'matchmaker who comes from a long line of matchmakers' (spoiler: she's not). 

Seriously.  Nothing makes me more ragey than watching "Dr." Jenn in her eye-searingly awful blouses be the most unprofessional therapist I have ever seen in my life.  Everything she does makes me twitch, but her saying, "Jesus Christ," in response to Jenna's reveal that she had been raped twice was especially cringeworthy.  Really?  "Jesus Christ?"  I'm surprised she didn't throw a "fucking" in the middle of it just so Jenna could feel she was relating.  UGH.  Whenever the dark-haired therapist guy speaks up, I actually listen to what he has to say.  I turn to Mr. Girlses and say, "Oh, good, the real therapist is going to say something."   I can't decide who is worse, Dr. Jenn or Sad Panda Dr. Drew.  I think Dr. Jenn may be edging out Drew for most cringeworthy and awful "doctor" on reality TV.

Edited October 17, 2014 by TheGirlses

[Christi]

Can we just talk about Dr. Jen's hair? I cant seem to focus on anything else :/

[CottlestonPie]

Can we just talk about Dr. Jen's hair? I cant seem to focus on anything else :/

I find myself unable to focus on anything else except those fugly shirts she wears.  It takes real effort to find shirts that hideous.

 

I don't watch Big Brother, but from what I've seen of him on this show, I like Evel Dick.  I think he tries way too hard with his hair/dress/nail polish, but I do find myself agreeing with most of what he has to say.

 

Jenna's MMA boyfriend has the patience of Job, because it's exhausting just watching her.  She seems way too fragile to be in any sort of relationship.  Also, aren't these two together because their exes ended up together?  I can't see this ending well.  Also, whenever Jenna screws her mouth to the side when she's talking, she totally reminds me of Garth from Wayne's World.  Party on, Jenna.

[Drogo]

Dick is the scum of the earth. He was a real douche on BB8 and I'm sure in every day of his life when he doesn't see a cameraman in his face to remind him that he's being recorded. His wrath during BB8 was honed in on a young girl, a model (maybe 22-23 y/o) who he "didn't like" though you could catch him staring/drooling over her on many an occasion. She earned his wrath by not being interested in him, and not kissing his daughter's ass and ignoring the fact that she was sleeping in a bed and making out with a male houseguest even though she (Dick's daughter) was engaged to be married to her boyfriend outside the BB house. Dick's relationship with the girl Jen turned violent at times - he blew smoke into her face knowing she hated it, he poured iced tea on her head, got directly into her face to speak... She ruined his cigarettes to try to get back at him and even tried to get herself kicked out of the house... CBS gave the events a verrrrry pro-Dick edit and that's why I don't know anyone who watches BB anymore.

 

A fan-made anti-Dick compilation live feed footage, some CBS "forgot" to show

Dr. Jenn is ridiculous, but not nearly as ridiculous as she was with Farrah Abraham and her nonexistent partner.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Drogo

[MZ30958]

As annoying as Jenna is, I have to acknowledge two wins in this episode. When Nikki was harping about Juan Pablo, Jenna walked past and asked if it was Groundhog Day. Nikki didn't get it and calls back with bitch face intact, "that's in February!".

Then in Jenna's TH she says, "what he's trying to convey to you, you DENSE FUCK!, is that he DOESN'T love you! Other that that, Jenna is annoying and yes, John is a saint but you can see the veneer cracking. Free John and Juan Pablo!

[CottlestonPie]

Dick is the scum of the earth. He was a real douche on BB8 and I'm sure in every day of his life when he doesn't see a cameraman in his face to remind him that he's being recorded. His wrath during BB8 was honed in on a young girl, a model (maybe 22-23 y/o) who he "didn't like" though you could catch him staring/drooling over her on many an occasion. She earned his wrath by not being interested in him, and not kissing his daughter's ass and ignoring the fact that she was sleeping in a bed and making out with a male houseguest even though she (Dick's daughter) was engaged to be married to her boyfriend outside the BB house. Dick's relationship with the girl Jen turned violent at times - he blew smoke into her face knowing she hated it, he poured iced tea on her head, got directly into her face to speak... She ruined his cigarettes to try to get back at him and even tried to get herself kicked out of the house... CBS gave the events a verrrrry pro-Dick edit and that's why I don't know anyone who watches BB anymore.

Dr. Jenn is ridiculous, but not nearly as ridiculous as she was with Farrah Abraham and her nonexistent partner.

Damn, that does indeed sound pretty awful. I definitely see in him the potential to be a raging asshole.  Maybe that's why Stephanie has such dead eyes whenever he's speaking.

 

Oh, don't get me started on the whole Farrah thing with Dr. Jenn.  So Farrah's reveal (whatever made-up thing that was, because anyone who has ever seen Farrah knows whatever she said was a load of crap) was so awful that Dr. Jenn came out literally shaking and crying and scarred for life, saying we wouldn't believe what horrors Farrah has witnessed in her young life, but Jenna's legitimately horrible reveal about being raped twice and having her best friend kill herself shortly after Jenna shared it with her merely warrant a "Jesus Christ."  Right.

[leighdear]

I agree that Jenna is too damaged for a pop psychology TV show.  Her problems require a hell of a lot more in-depth attention than a scripted reality show is going to provide.  John needs to get out of that "relationship" asap.  He can't help fix her. 

[Pollock]

Dick is the scum of the earth. He was a real douche on BB8 and I'm sure in every day of his life when he doesn't see a cameraman in his face to remind him that he's being recorded. His wrath during BB8 was honed in on a young girl, a model (maybe 22-23 y/o) who he "didn't like" though you could catch him staring/drooling over her on many an occasion. She earned his wrath by not being interested in him, and not kissing his daughter's ass and ignoring the fact that she was sleeping in a bed and making out with a male houseguest even though she (Dick's daughter) was engaged to be married to her boyfriend outside the BB house. Dick's relationship with the girl Jen turned violent at times - he blew smoke into her face knowing she hated it, he poured iced tea on her head, got directly into her face to speak... She ruined his cigarettes to try to get back at him and even tried to get herself kicked out of the house... CBS gave the events a verrrrry pro-Dick edit and that's why I don't know anyone who watches BB anymore.

 

A fan-made anti-Dick compilation live feed footage, some CBS "forgot" to show

 

Thank you for that ! I've never watched Big Brother.

Why nobody in the house helped her ? I watched other videos after the one you posted and I'm appalled. The lack of reactions and even the aggression on Jen after Dick poured tea on her is upsetting.

 

I'm bummed because I like Dick in Couples Therapy, he makes me laugh. I usually like villains, I find them more entertaining than heroes but when I heard he won his season despite being an asshole I expected Dick to be Richard Hatch* or Russell Hantz at worst not a punch short of Ray Rice.

 

 

ETA : *ok, just learned that Richard Hatch was charged with domestic violence in 2001 so... yeah... Maybe I'll stop rooting for villain from now on... 

Edited October 18, 2014 by Pollock

[keti]

Wow, I never watched BB so had no idea about Dick's history but watching that youtube video is a bit disturbing.  I imagine the girl he focused all his anger on probably wasn't the nicest person in the world either but, jeez, the level of vitriol and hostility is really over the top.  I disliked some people I came across in my life but I would never spend so much negative energy on another human being, I don't think any normal, semi decent person would.  Certainly shows Dick in an entirely different light and phrase 'karma is a bitch' springs to mind, too.

[ramble]

So maybe Nikki has a rainbow in her pants. Thank you Jenna for that. I laughed for five minutes.

[blondiek237]

I watched Dick's season and I still like him. yes he was an ass but so was Jen, it was a game and if we are going to judge BB house guests by the crappy things they say, no one would like any of them. I am so sad to hear he is HIV positive. Someone needs to give Nikki a copy of He's just not into you, it is really pitiful to watch. And having no prior knowledge of Tretch, but is wife would drive me to drink. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He says he cheated (other then that time when they were not yet exclusive)and she will never let him live it down, and if he doesn't, she will badger him forever

[fetching]

What is with this "Doctor" Jenn?? Tearing up during Treach's apology? (I know she also had a breakdown after the one-on-one secret session with Teen Mom and that was insane too). I have never, ever seen such a thing and i've been in tons of therapy. I've tried my damndest to make my shrinks cry, but no dice.

 

Maybe she's a 'therapist' the same way Patti Stanger is a 'matchmaker who comes from a long line of matchmakers' (spoiler: she's not). 

I once had this fabulous irish therapist who said to me once when I was telling him about some of the mean things my dad did to me when I was a child, "Your dad is a fooking arsehole!" I thought he was bang on and extremely professional...he was just extremely honest and blunt.

[panthergirl13]

I once had this fabulous irish therapist who said to me once when I was telling him about some of the mean things my dad did to me when I was a child, "Your dad is a fooking arsehole!" I thought he was bang on and extremely professional...he was just extremely honest and blunt.

Yes, and I'd agree that is not unprofessional. And sometimes they will say things like your therapist did in order to get you in touch with your own anger at the person.

 

But crying? Totally unheard of. I'm always in awe of that fact that therapists CAN keep it together even when you tell them horrific things. 

[fetching]

Yes, and I'd agree that is not unprofessional. And sometimes they will say things like your therapist did in order to get you in touch with your own anger at the person.

 

But crying? Totally unheard of. I'm always in awe of that fact that therapists CAN keep it together even when you tell them horrific things. 

Yeah the crying is a bit out there. Also, I hate it when people make it about themselves. It's Jenna's story and pain, not Dr. Jen's and she should be Jenna's rock in a moment like that, not looking like she needs comforting herself. 

[RedheadZombie]

Yeah the crying is a bit out there. Also, I hate it when people make it about themselves. It's Jenna's story and pain, not Dr. Jen's and she should be Jenna's rock in a moment like that, not looking like she needs comforting herself. 

 

I agree.  I'm a nurse and I've seen some horrible stuff.  I can't imagine what would happen if I started crying with my patient.  It's like - move over, I'm climbing in bed with you.  I would be completely useless.

[Sheenieb]

 

Can we just talk about Dr. Jen's hair? I cant seem to focus on anything else :/

Yeah, it's terrible. It's too long and stringy.  She needs a haircut.

 

I hope now that Treach acknowledged Cicely's hurt that she can finally move on. Just like everyone is over Juan Pablo's I love you bullshit, I'm over Cicely and her constant badgering.

[trimthatfat]

I agree.  I'm a nurse and I've seen some horrible stuff.  I can't imagine what would happen if I started crying with my patient.  It's like - move over, I'm climbing in bed with you.  I would be completely useless.

All of this. Dr. Jen crying while consulting with clients is completely unprofessional. I've treated some tough patients in my field as a PA, but if I internalized every problem they had...oy. I'd be a mess.

 

I've also been in therapy for years and I've never had a single therapist cry over my story. That day is the day I'd never see that person again.

 

I agree with Dick that Juan Pablo is BSing Nikki. He is well aware of what it means to be in love with someone. He doesn't want to say 'I love you'. Period. Nikki can either take or leave it. I need her to shit or get off the pot because I am tired of seeing her cry about the issue.

 

Jenna's boyfriend...I'm not sure what to think about the fact that he uncomfortable with Jenna wearing revealing clothing. Like she said, most of the world have seen her boobs. He needs to accept that Jenna prefers to show off her body. You can't date a super famous adult movie star and be surprised that they don't have any qualms about walking around in revealing clothing.

Edited October 21, 2014 by trimthatfat

[jojomano]

I don't get the groundhog day joke! Could someone help me out?

[CottlestonPie]

jojomano, it's a reference to the movie "Groundhog Day" with Bill Murray where he wakes up and has to relive the same day over and over and over and over until he "gets it right" (i.e., stops being an ass to everyone around him and falling in love with Andie McDowell).

Edited October 22, 2014 by TheGirlses

[jojomano]

Oh! Lol! Thanks!