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I'm going to really  miss Garcelle,  most of time, she asks the questions I want to ask. I can see why she quit, the writing  is on the wall, with Boz, Dorit and  Erika. Kyle flip flopping  from side to side.

Dorit must have lost a good 20lbs, she looks terrible,  so does her ill fitting dress. I think this is a side of  Dorit, that we haven't  seen in past seasons. I had questions  about the robbery,  before  Garcelle  said anything. I thought  PK was somehow  involved. It was just a gut feeling.

I've seen reels of PK with his daughter, they had such fun lip syncing. I hope PK isn't  drinking  again, but Dorit sure was shady about it.

I liked Suttons remark  to Garcelle,  she looked like Michael Jackson's glove, I didn't  care for Garcelle’s  dress. But she's  still beautiful  to me.

Erika is bitchy, because Garcelle  isn't  taking  about her sex life, she isn’t  interesting? Bullcrap!  What was so interesting  about Erika this season,  she had her house decorated,  wow! 

Boz, she's a smart business  woman, that's evident,  that doesn't  mean in her  day to day life she's  smart. I hope she is happy  with Keeley, but sometimes  a person  is too close to see those red flags, ask Kyle! 

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3 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I give her mad credit for telling Dorit to her face that she thought the robbery was a scam & not backing down. A lot of people felt the same, including some of the women on stage but they’d Never admit it. 

This is the first time I've thought Garcelle made a big mistake and said something she shouldn't have said; not because she can't have an opinion (I share the same one) but because saying stuff like this in public without any evidence can be very serious and the blowback Garcelle got on stage didn't surprise me although it really seemed to surprise her.   Feeling the same way doesn't mean it's okay to say it without any proof. I felt bad for Garcelle. 

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7 minutes ago, dancingdreamer said:

 I hope PK isn't  drinking  again, but Dorit sure was shady about it.

Doorit was denying that she spent all this time badmouthing PK and telling everyone from the cast to the mailman that he’s an alcoholic, that editing only made it seem that way. Only to them slip a big hint that he’s off the wagon but letting Andy and Erika actually say the words. And more damaging than anything Garcelle was saying.

I’m not sure why I hate Doorit even more than the sociopath on the other end of her couch, but I kind of do.

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14 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

This is the first time I've thought Garcelle made a big mistake and said something she shouldn't have said; not because she can't have an opinion (I share the same one) but because saying stuff like this in public without any evidence can be very serious and the blowback Garcelle got on stage didn't surprise me although it really seemed to surprise her.   Feeling the same way doesn't mean it's okay to say it without any proof. I felt bad for Garcelle. 

Garcelle is my favorite HW, but I agree.

That's something you have to be careful about saying when you'll be in front of a camera.

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21 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

This is the first time I've thought Garcelle made a big mistake and said something she shouldn't have said; not because she can't have an opinion (I share the same one), but because saying stuff like this in public, without any evidence, can be very serious, and the blowback Garcelle got on stage didn't surprise me, although it really seemed to surprise her. Feeling the same way doesn't mean it's okay to say it without any proof. I felt bad for Garcelle. 

I think that there was plenty of evidence.

Dorit did not activate their home’s alarm system, because they were home and would set it off? Isn’t that when it’s more important that the alarm be on? The burglars gently set Dorit’s cell phone down as they fled the scene. PJ was OVER Dorit’s “PTSD” after a certain number of months. And we know PJ and Dorit’s history of insolvency and grifting.

In my opinion, there’s the evidence.

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7 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Weird that Dorit is all up in arms about Garcelle's opinion of the break-in, even though PK has long since been over the whole thing. And he's her husband!

Apparently Andy has doubts about Dorit's break-in also since he's the one who brought up the burglar returning Dorit's phone to her.  Of course Dorit doesn't address that.  She's too busy admonishing Garcelle.  I think the whole thing was set up by PK to collect on insurance.  No real burglar is going to return your phone and risk having the police called on them.  It's pure BS!  

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7 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Erika said Garcelle doesn't talk about the real things - like who she's sleeping with...of course, that's the only thing that interests Erika.  Who, by the way, didn't reveal anything about her love life this season, either.  

I wish Garcelle would have just told Erika, "Awww, go pat your pu$$y and STFU!!!"  On WWHL Erika said her and Garcelle both married ugly white men.  But Erika, at least Garcelle got 2 beautiful sons from her marriage.  All you got was lawsuits and a lot of bad press.  Erika is such a classless see u next Tuesday!!!  I can't stand her. 

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8 hours ago, Surrealist said:

found it interesting that Garcelle walks away, during the break, saying that she was expecting Sutton to be in the "hot seat" instead of her. Almost seemed annoyed by it, tbh.

Garcelle seems to have an extremely high opinion of herself.  
I can almost hear her say Patsy’s line from “Absolutely Fabulous:” 

“Don’t question me!”

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The audacity of that thieving, Ozempic taking, pig telling Garcelle she wishes she was more interesting. She needs to know who she is sleeping with? Why? I notice Erika didn’t press Kyle about the Morgan crap and Kyle was flaunting that shit all over and then claiming there’s nothing to discuss. 
There was nothing interesting about Erika. She had to play Dorits support and decorated her rental space. 
Dorits split from PK was worthy of first chair? I bet they planned the entire thing because they need the money and then PK decided it was nice being away from Dorit and made it legit. 
 

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Ok wait ... Am i the bad guy? Am i the villain? cause there is no way Bravo and Andy and production is watching this and seeing the same lopsided shit I am and thinks they are in the right?? 

so its ok Kyle for you to drag peoples off camera life on the show but NOT anyone else?

Erika being pissed because G's life isnt a train wreck therefor her life is boring? GIRL im sorry she didn't rip off widows and orphans but that doesn't make your life interesting it makes you a ghoul who again used them to further your own career and you think that's ok? 

Doirt and her high horse of how dare you think my robbery was staged ( i 100% believe it was) You literately laughed at a underage kid being attacked and cosigned it by telling the woman you are screaming at that it wasnt your kid ON camera

 

Boz taking these witches side at all

the gang up is OLD OLD OLD

 

Sutton being fucking quiet like GIRL come on

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10 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

wait i wanna make sure I got this right ..Boz watched this show? she saw HOW dorit came for G and her kid telling her it was time to get over her son being bullied online by racist AFTER being on camera laughing and Kiki'ng with another housewife that that same UNDERAGE child was verbally told to get the fuck out of here at his mothers birthday party by Erika and how that was great and she doesnt have a problem with it cause it wasnt her kid .....

 

im so confused ... but this does tell me everything i need to know going forward

like and you take their side and Kiki with them? GIRL

Bravo is making me hate this show

I agree with you about Boz. Took the easy route by buddying up with the assholes. 
Kyle pissed me off when she compared Morgan to Garcelles son for not appearing this season. Garcelles son was barely a teen when Erika verbally assaulted him. He was then dragged online by horrible people. Morgan is an adult who did a music video with Kyle and tagged along with her on camera last season. She was worried about her career and that’s why she sat out this season.  There is no comparison.

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9 hours ago, princelina said:

So did Sutton - instead of being happy she was being "left alone" (more or less) she had to start in on "Everybody hates me!  I'm gonna cry!"  Save it for your turn, Sutton 😂

10 hours ago, njbchlover said:

So what else is new?  that is Sutton's answer to anything negative said about her. Angry or hurt she resorts to crying. So yeah get the crying rags ready. 

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Garcelle’s dress getting stuck to Sutton’s dress was funny.
 

Ericka kept it all about it herself, as usual, by not even giving a shoutout to the designer of her dress “oh just some random designer I met” wow imagine being that designer, excited your gown is going to be seen on tv and you’re dismissed as ‘some random designer’. Unless she was joking, but I don’t think she’s capable of humor. 

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2 hours ago, swankie said:

The same can be said of Boz and Erika.  Boz seems to think she's God's gift to reality TV.  And we experienced Erika's narcissism a few seasons ago when she said she doesn't care about her husband's victims, she only cares about herself.  I'll take Garcelle over those two any day. 

Oh, I agree with all that.

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11 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Garcelle’s dress getting stuck to Sutton’s dress was funny.
 

Ericka kept it all about it herself, as usual, by not even giving a shoutout to the designer of her dress “oh just some random designer I met” wow imagine being that designer, excited your gown is going to be seen on tv and you’re dismissed as ‘some random designer’. Unless she was joking, but I don’t think she’s capable of humor. 

I think that Erica may have either borrowed the dress or bought it as ready to wear off the rack somewhere (even maybe a resale or consignment shop) and then had it altered to her measurements.  That is why she didn't mention who the designer was - it wasn't any designer that was noteworthy or would elevate her in any way.

I do think that Erica is "struggling" financially (not struggling like normal people, but "rich-girl" struggling).

I noticed, however, that Andy didn't ask the other ladies who did their dresses.  I feel like Andy sometimes knows certain things and brings up these innocuous questions to throw a little shade at whomever he chooses.  

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1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

So what else is new?  that is Sutton's answer to anything negative said about her. Angry or hurt she resorts to crying. So yeah get the crying rags ready. 

On Potomac, when Candiace was part of the cast those crying rags were called cryangles, she would fold them to get to the corner of her eyes so as to not let her makeup run.

Kyle starts the reunion off by knocking Sutton.  Kyle brought crystals on the set for calm, peace, good vibes, whatever and said she didn't want to wind up in the hospital like Sutton did last year, nothing sympathetic in her delivery but Sutton ate it up just having her name come out of Kyle's mouth.

As the women calmly talk about Morgan, Kyle talks about how Morgan did not sign up for the cameras and was anxious when on camera, a very nice normal convo and it struck me as Kyle is pretty much giving in and silently admitting she and Morgan are together. Baby steps.

Erika saying she wished Garcelle was more interesting was rich, Erika's story was like watching wallpaper paste dry.

Dorit has become a skeleton.

Boz, I wish her earrings were bigger. 

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9 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

What was Kyle doing with her mouth. 🤣Was she mewing? 

I don't know if Kyle can actually feel her lips anymore, with whatever injectables, etc., she may be doing.  She seems to purse her lips quite a bit, almost to make sure she has movement in them, and then, seems to hold her mouth in an awkward way.

I notice that Kathy does the same thing - I wonder if they go to the same doctor/esthetician for their lip work.  

Or, maybe it is a hereditary family tic of some kind.  

Either way, it's strange.  

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7 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I've seen reels of PK with his daughter, they had such fun lip syncing. I hope PK isn't  drinking  again, but Dorit sure was shady about it.

Erika is bitchy, because Garcelle  isn't  taking  about her sex life, she isn’t  interesting? Bullcrap!  What was so interesting  about Erika this season,  she had her house decorated,  wow! 

I am not entirely unconvinced that Dorit isn't using PK's issues with alcohol to make herself look better. I took her vagueness NOT as a sign that he's drinking again, but that he's actually improving & she thinks that by being all coy about it, people will assume the worst and feel better about/more sorry for her. I mean, she could have just said "you know, PK and I don't speak about this but I hope he is becoming the healthiest version of himself." I'm GLAD he refuses to talk to her about it, probably because he realizes she'll use whatever he says as a bludgeon.

And yeah, it's cute that the Faux Force Former 5 is out there acting as if a show focused solely on them would make compelling TV for the majority of the audience. More wallpaper! More moping in an empty house! More Empowered Dorit(TM), now with 200% more verbosity! Sounds exciting to me!

 

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7 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

This is the first time I've thought Garcelle made a big mistake and said something she shouldn't have said; not because she can't have an opinion (I share the same one) but because saying stuff like this in public without any evidence can be very serious and the blowback Garcelle got on stage didn't surprise me although it really seemed to surprise her.   Feeling the same way doesn't mean it's okay to say it without any proof. I felt bad for Garcelle. 

For sure, you’re right. it’s tricky to make that accusation without evidence, but I still give her credit for not backtracking to cover her ass. She kept it real, which is rare on reality tv these days. Everyone is so camera saavy. It was refreshing to see someone be that bold. 
 

I really liked Boz inspite of her loyalty to Dorit, and boring baby storyline. But hearing she watched the show and Still chose to crawl up Dorit’s butt, made her stock go way down for me. Shame because I think she’s not scared of anyone and that makes for a good cast member. But how can you see how Dorit’s acted & still be her instant bestie? Has to be a strategic move. I can’t think of two less fun people to hang with than Dorit and Ericka. 
 

And Boz’s line about how can you think anything she said would affect how I feel about you/you must have low self esteem was bullshit. Of Course she’d think Dorit was influencing your opinion! That’s usually how it goes with friends 99% of the time. You believe what your friend is telling you about someone else. For better or worse, that’s usually how it goes. Doesn’t mean the other person doesn’t like themselves. Way to twist it. She’s a quick study. 

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Boz's thing about "oh, you say I'm being influenced by Dorit in my perception of you! Well, that tells me you think lowly of yourself!" was one of the WORST pieces of "logic" that I've heard on these shows, and that's saying a lot. Boz, we VERY MUCH SAW Dorit bending your ear and we VERY MUCH SAW you stanning for her at every turn. You watched previous seasons and you think DORIT AND ERIKA pass the smell test? This doesn't give me a lot of faith in your "always right" powers of perception.

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3 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

Boz's thing about "oh, you say I'm being influenced by Dorit in my perception of you! Well, that tells me you think lowly of yourself!" was one of the WORST pieces of "logic" that I've heard on these shows, and that's saying a lot. Boz, we VERY MUCH SAW Dorit bending your ear and we VERY MUCH SAW you stanning for her at every turn. You watched previous seasons and you think DORIT AND ERIKA pass the smell test? This doesn't give me a lot of faith in your "always right" powers of perception.

I mean she wants to marry and have a baby with a man she doesn't tell i love you to and who she didn't ask any real hard questions but her daughter did and made these plans without asking pretty much anything of this man it looked like  .. she is just as big of a fool as these other ladies just trying to package herself like she isn't

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2 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

Boz's thing about "oh, you say I'm being influenced by Dorit in my perception of you! Well, that tells me you think lowly of yourself!" was one of the WORST pieces of "logic" that I've heard on these shows, and that's saying a lot. Boz, we VERY MUCH SAW Dorit bending your ear and we VERY MUCH SAW you stanning for her at every turn. You watched previous seasons and you think DORIT AND ERIKA pass the smell test? This doesn't give me a lot of faith in your "always right" powers of perception.

Was I the only one thinking "No, that means I have a very low opinion of YOU"

 

I'm finding it harder and harder to believe she was successful in a leadership position

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I still can't shake the feeling that a condition of Boz being on the show was that she spend most of her filming time with Dorit, who after last year's reunion was an island on her own (with Erika straddling the fence between her two alliance-mates). On Orange County, newbie after newbie would hitch their wagon to vile Vicki in the wake of the cancer scam, until the season that she reconciled with Tamra and Shannon, after which Vicki went back to hating on all new girls. I think producers intervened then and I think they might be here too.

 

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11 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean she wants to marry and have a baby with a man she doesn't tell i love you to and who she didn't ask any real hard questions but her daughter did and made these plans without asking pretty much anything of this man it looked like  .. she is just as big of a fool as these other ladies just trying to package herself like she isn't

Having your teenage daughter ask the hard questions of your beau is a really wild look for a C-suite business professional.

9 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Was I the only one thinking "No, that means I have a very low opinion of YOU"

Ha! I did think exactly that! 🤣

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The Fraud Force never liked that Garcelle is friends with LVP. They were never warm to or gave Garcelle a real chance. And Garcelle is smart, she clocked their little clique bullshit immediately, and that's why she asks the questions about their lives that they try desperately to hide and deflect from. 

I understand the sentiment of wishing Garcelle said all that she said in the dressing room to Erika's face, but I'm okay that she didn't. She is very cognizant of her career and her reputation, and at her core she is real and she is classy (see: her not giving Boz ammunition on the other women ahead of filming). Garcelle doesn't need this show, she has a real job and worked hard for all that she has - stooping to their level (which is the gutter) wouldn't have done her any good; it would have just given them fuel to continue to dump on her. 

And it's okay because Erika watched that moment from the discomfort of her rental home. She can yell at the wallpaper about it.  

Kyle calling anyone but herself and her merry band of hypocrites "mean girls" is astounding. I don't know how Andy doesn't check her for that! He's part of the problem, and why Fraud Force gets away with so much. 

Boz revealing that she watched the show prior to joining and still latched onto Dorit says a whole lot about her and nothing good. Someone somewhere (was it here? Twitter?) said that Dorit gave Boz the tea on all the women that Garcelle wouldn't, and that's why they became fast friends. And shame on her for stoking the flames of the (very obvious though alleged!) fake-robbery...she wasn't around at the time! It wasn't her place to jump in with her opinion on the matter, which leads me to believe that she was in on the premeditated Garcelle pile-on. 

And lastly, Garcelle saying that she thought Sutton would be the one catching heat: Yeah! Because 98% of the season was Sutton/Dorit. Garcelle was no doubt blindsided by all of this. People thinking that Dorit's fake-robbery (allegedly!) was fake is two years old! But, again, Fraud Force used this to deflect and to bully Garcelle off the show. 
LVP, Denise, Garcelle...this isn't a coincidence. 

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15 hours ago, Steph J said:

Sutton, don't jump in to back Kyle up. She would never do the same for you. Let her fight it out with Dorit on her own.

I'm so tired of Dorit and PK. Get divorced, don't get divorced, go broke, keep pretending that you're not broke, I don't care anymore, I just want to stop hearing about it.

I find PK much more interesting that Poorit.  He at least has humor.  If we have to keep one of them, I vote for PK.  And really, FREE PK!

Reunion review:

Kyle is Kyle and is really uninteresting. Not a good friend at all.

Erika:  I finally want her to stay so we can see her financial downfall (even further than before).  Default judgement?  YES PLEASE!

Poorit, humorless sow who I can't stand.  Not a nice person.  Maybe her new person, should there ever be one, can buy her new boobs. Really, they are awful.  Wonder if she will show up at Mar A Lago? 

Sutton:  Take a crucial conversation class, a debate class and maybe a shade class with a haughty queen.  Be a better friend to Garcelle and quit trying to make it Faux Force Six.  Never gonna happen.  Dress for your shape.

Boz:  she certainly chose her alliance. Sad.

Garcelle, run like the wind.

Jennifer, be full time and fabulous. 

Thought.  I wonder if Kyle's girls will end up being closer to Mo?  

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3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I must be one of the 4 Twitter folks who think the break in was a set up.

raises hand id be #5 ... the whole thing made no sense .. robers not taking her wedding ring .. not checking the house for other people and taking her word that no one else was in a two story dark house (come on) being so quiet even tho they were yelling that her kids didnt hear ... the being so kind to leave her phone lights flashing so she could find it etc etc ... nothing smells right about the story im sorry

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7 hours ago, swankie said:

Apparently Andy has doubts about Dorit's break-in also since he's the one who brought up the burglar returning Dorit's phone to her.  Of course Dorit doesn't address that.  She's too busy admonishing Garcelle.  I think the whole thing was set up by PK to collect on insurance.  No real burglar is going to return your phone and risk having the police called on them.  It's pure BS!  

I think I have counted more than 4.  HA!

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14 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

raises hand id be #5 ... the whole thing made no sense .. robers not taking her wedding ring .. not checking the house for other people and taking her word that no one else was in a two story dark house (come on) being so quiet even tho they were yelling that her kids didnt hear ... the being so kind to leave her phone lights flashing so she could find it etc etc ... nothing smells right about the story im sorry

Oh, there are plenty of people who feel the same way, including myself.  

Presumably, this was investigated by someone (the police or insurance company or both) and they didn't find enough actual evidence for fraud.  That doesn't mean it wasn't fraud, just that no one has proven it.  

I agree with Garcelle in that I really don't think Dorito was in on it, at least before it happened and directly afterward.  She's not much of an actress and her reaction seemed real.  But IF she wasn't such a dum dum she might have paused and wondered the same things Garcelle wondered right off the bat.

Here is my baseless theory:  PK, tired of Dorito's anguish over the event admits to her she was never in any danger and Dorito tells him to leave.   PK gets sober and decides he likes life without her more than with her, aka he can grift better without her and viola! Divorce story ensues.    Dorito can't accuse PK of the fraud without implicating herself. 

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16 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I see Erika thinks Garcelle is boring.

Garcell is "boring" in that she is not a gold-digging, calculating opportunist like Erika who targeted an old man for his money, skedaddled and played the victim when he got caught bilking his clients and conveniently ignored how much of the money she sucked up to fund her D-list career. 

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I'm so tired of Dorit and PK. Get divorced, don't get divorced, go broke, keep pretending that you're not broke, I don't care anymore, I just want to stop hearing about it.

Me too. The more I hear from Dorit, the less I like her. And she doesn't look good. She is so thin--jutting shoulder bones and neck veins. 

 

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Kyle, 

You really don’t show your life at all. You show general things but not what is actually, actually happening.

Yep. And she gets away with it because she's Andy's favorite. 

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On 4/1/2025 at 7:54 PM, Steph J said:

Garcelle and Sutton are the mean girls? Really? Get bent, Kyle.

She really ticked me off. I wish sycophant Andy had called her out, because we know who the real means girls are, and Kyle leads the pack. 

On 4/1/2025 at 9:02 PM, njbchlover said:

I also think that Dorit was horrible with everything she said (or alluded to) about PK.  I have no interest in PK, as I think he is a con artist and a scammer with a gambling addiction, but Dorit's constant bashing of him is tiresome and just sounds bitter.  Even the comment about when he sees the kids "On Saturday and Saturday night..... (insert the infamous Dorit Dramatic Pause), IF he's in town."  That was low.  

PK's statement was classy and just enough.  He did not call Dorit names, he did not call her out on anything specific - he stated what needed to be stated in a gentlemanly way.

 

She was nasty and full of it in her excuse about labeling him an alcoholic. I seriously doubt PK "going public" about his drinking meant he wanted his wife to go on TV and say repeatedly that he was a "raging alcoholic", bad father, monster, etc. I don't think this is a new Dorit we've seen this season. I think in her rage against PK, she has let her true colors come out. Good for him for getting away. Between the two of them, I'm team PK. 

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