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S01.E13: McAllister Auto Loves the Ladies

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Dimity

Dimity

Not a bad episode. Connor stuff was just dumb but otherwise it was mildly diverting.

One thing though, when we first see the tire store Audrey appears to be working there at least some of the time.  Did I miss a reference to her having done that before Mandy, Georgie and the baby moved in?  Because what I saw made it seem like she was not involved and her changes were ultimately pointless.

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EtheltoTillie

EtheltoTillie

41 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Not a bad episode. Connor stuff was just dumb but otherwise it was mildly diverting.

One thing though, when we first see the tire store Audrey appears to be working there at least some of the time.  Did I miss a reference to her having done that before Mandy, Georgie and the baby moved in?  Because what I saw made it seem like she was not involved and her changes were ultimately pointless.

Yes, but I think that was all on Young Sheldon. They retconned for GM. 

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shura

shura

23 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:
1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Not a bad episode. Connor stuff was just dumb but otherwise it was mildly diverting.

One thing though, when we first see the tire store Audrey appears to be working there at least some of the time.  Did I miss a reference to her having done that before Mandy, Georgie and the baby moved in?  Because what I saw made it seem like she was not involved and her changes were ultimately pointless.

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Yes, but I think that was all on Young Sheldon. They retconned for GM. 

Yep, and it was a totally different store layout, too.  Audrey seemed to be running the office and Jim was manning the counter that was not facing the front door like now but was on the left as you enter, if I remember it right.

So, if Audrey is not involved with the tire store in GMFM, is she retired (at her age?)?  Or is she supposed to have always been a housewife?

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EtheltoTillie

EtheltoTillie

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2 hours ago, shura said:

Yep, and it was a totally different store layout, too.  Audrey seemed to be running the office and Jim was manning the counter that was not facing the front door like now but was on the left as you enter, if I remember it right.

So, if Audrey is not involved with the tire store in GMFM, is she retired (at her age?)?  Or is she supposed to have always been a housewife?

No, but I think they’re making her the babysitter. Definitely though they’re hoping no one noticed. 

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Browncoat

Browncoat

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

Connor stuff was just dumb but otherwise it was mildly diverting.

It was a little dumb, but I got a kick out of the song he made from the household noises.

The rest was kind of annoying -- see the problem, sort of address the problem, half-ass a fix to the problem, then ignore all of the above.  A hardware store or mechanic's shop will be more "inviting" to women when we are no longer condescended to or flat out ripped off.  Potted plants won't do it (although a toilet seat helps).  News flash, boys, there are, in fact, some of us helpless little girly-wirlys who have a clue about tools and cars!

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

2 hours ago, Browncoat said:

A hardware store or mechanic's shop will be more "inviting" to women when we are no longer condescended to or flat out ripped off.  Potted plants won't do it (although a toilet seat helps).  News flash, boys, there are, in fact, some of us helpless little girly-wirlys who have a clue about tools and cars!

Definitely. Been there. Dealt with that. But this is set in the 90s.

 

25 minutes ago, appositival said:

Connor wouldn't need to sample sounds for very long (especially the doorbell). He should be able to take one 'cycle' of each sound and then then duplicate them.

12 hours ago, Dimity said:

Connor stuff was just dumb but otherwise it was mildly diverting.

Will Connor wind up being a well-paid DJ or noted for music samples or an avante garde musician?

 

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Dimity

Dimity

2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Definitely. Been there. Dealt with that. But this is set in the 90s.

Maybe that's why this episode felt like it could have been written in the 90s, or actually more like the 60s. 

Silly woman comes in and tries to beautify a tire store, pause for indulgent laughter, eventually gets tired of this and goes home (where she belongs) to cook and clean and look after the kiddies.  Lesson learned.  Ugh.

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DoYouLikeMutton

DoYouLikeMutton

4 hours ago, Browncoat said:

News flash, boys, there are, in fact, some of us helpless little girly-wirlys who have a clue about tools and cars!

So TRUE!  One time I took my car to a mechanic for new brakes.  Once the job was completed I noted that the brakes were making a weird noise.  The mechanic tried to placate me by telling me "they had to break in."  My husband (then boyfriend) went to the mechanic himself and told him that even l didn't believe that nonsense!  The mechanic just knowlingly laughed.  He fixed my brakes again, but I never went back to him again.

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MaryMitch

MaryMitch

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Well, besides being WAAAY too many flowers, cleaning up the shop was a good idea and a way of showing how Georgie is always looking for a way to get a leg up on the competition. If they can keep the shop relatively clean and welcoming to female customers, word will get around. Women buy tires too!

And nice to see Ruben have a few lines.

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Dimity

Dimity

3 hours ago, Tom Holmberg said:

I'm rather bored with every episode being about the various family members arguing with each other.  Maybe have a subplot that actually develops over time?

This was a real strength of both BBT and YS.  It's hard to see what they can do here though except the slow imploding of Georgie and Mandy's marriage?  Connor evolving into an adult male?

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Yeah No

Yeah No

12 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Will Connor wind up being a well-paid DJ or noted for music samples or an avante garde musician?

He might. What he's doing has been around for a while. It's the art of making music from non-musical noise or "Noise Music". It's a little avante garde for sure but not unheard of. And it has actually found its way into techno. music in the form of ambient and industrial techno. I'm waiting (and hoping) for Connor to become the surprise breakout success of the family sooner or later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_music#:~:text=Noise music is a genre,musical and non-musical sound.

10 hours ago, DoYouLikeMutton said:

So TRUE!  One time I took my car to a mechanic for new brakes.  Once the job was completed I noted that the brakes were making a weird noise.  The mechanic tried to placate me by telling me "they had to break in."  My husband (then boyfriend) went to the mechanic himself and told him that even l didn't believe that nonsense!  The mechanic just knowlingly laughed.  He fixed my brakes again, but I never went back to him again.

My husband was a manager in auto. repair shops and new brakes squeaking is actually VERY common and is most often caused by them breaking in, so telling you that was not just to placate you but had a basis in truth. On the other hand if you think they are making a "weird" noise it could be the sign of a real problem and so it's best to have it checked out rather than take the risk. And that's what my husband used to tell customers. He didn't assume it was just the normal noise as customers don't really know how to tell normal from abnormal. So he always told them to bring the car in to have it checked out. And you wouldn't believe how often it happened either. Like I said, it's very common! I even had it happen myself once.

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lh25

lh25

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On 3/7/2025 at 5:04 AM, Browncoat said:

News flash, boys, there are, in fact, some of us helpless little girly-wirlys who have a clue about tools and cars!

When I was in my early 20s I went car shopping with my boyfriend.  To be fair, he was older than I was, but that doesn't excuse what happened.  We walked in, I said I was looking for a 5 speed manual shift(this was back in the early 80s).  The sales dude turned to BF and said "If you would teach your daughter to drive a stick she's have more options".  Yeah, that didn't end well for sales dude.

 

I'm torn on Conner.  I don't mind him as a character, but not sure we needed another quirky brother.  

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iarwain

iarwain

On 3/6/2025 at 10:35 PM, shura said:

Yep, and it was a totally different store layout, too.  Audrey seemed to be running the office and Jim was manning the counter that was not facing the front door like now but was on the left as you enter, if I remember it right.

Maybe she was doing that until Georgie joined the business, which allowed Jim to move to the office, and Audrey to stay home with her granddaughter.

 

On 3/7/2025 at 9:51 AM, appositival said:

Connor wouldn't need to sample sounds for very long (especially the doorbell). He should be able to take one 'cycle' of each sound and then then duplicate them.

Maybe he was just looking for the perfect sample to "cycle".  Also, I'm not sure what time this show is set in (the 90s?), but the technology likely wasn't what it is today.  Didn't he play his song for Mandy on a cassette?  I wasn't really impressed with the final product, to be honest.  Maybe this is going somewhere for him, but I don't know where.

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

22 hours ago, lh25 said:

I'm torn on Conner.  I don't mind him as a character, but not sure we needed another quirky brother. 

The way the character of Conner has been gradually expanded but still has limited plot relevance seems to indicate the writers were also not sure he was necessary.

The same applies to Ruben, but so far he's been relegated to not much more than one-liners.

Throughout the history of TV sitcoms, there have been many incidental characters who rose in importance, like Fonzie.

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Dimity

Dimity

13 hours ago, iarwain said:

Maybe she was doing that until Georgie joined the business, which allowed Jim to move to the office, and Audrey to stay home with her granddaughter.

When we first meet Jim and Audrey there would have been no reason for them to think Georgie would join the business or that they would have the kids move in with them.

I don't know why they changed course and had Audrey uninvolved with the business - especially as in the earliest episodes she seemed to have some veto power over hiring Georgie at all - but I wish they hadn't.

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Dimity

Dimity

11 minutes ago, crowceilidh said:

I also think Connor is too cliche.  I do like the character, but I also feel manipulated by his presence.

I feel like they know they hit gold with the Sheldon character on BBT and they're trying to keep that level of quirky going on this show.  For me it's just not working because all I see is an adult man living off his parents.  That's not quirky, it's sad.

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babyhouseman

babyhouseman

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

I feel like they know they hit gold with the Sheldon character on BBT and they're trying to keep that level of quirky going on this show.  For me it's just not working because all I see is an adult man living off his parents.  That's not quirky, it's sad.

And if he has a mental health issue, that's not going to be explored on a sitcom.

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Snow Apple

Snow Apple

17 hours ago, iarwain said:

Yeah, but Connor is no Fonzie.

He's not even Robert from Everybody Loves Raymond. Robert (and Fonzie) is the brother role to the star and living with parents/parental figures but at least they have jobs and go on dates and stuff. 

I don't mind Connor and he's funny sometimes but he seems to be just there. They could have him watching CeeCee during the day, but Audrey has that role.

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Yeah No

Yeah No

1 minute ago, Snow Apple said:

I have a feeling they want quirky and having a job, any job, is not quirky enough. I hope I'm wrong though. 

I actually think they've been trying to make Connor less quirky or at least that's where they might be trying to take his character. Noise music is a thing, it's not that out there. If he finds a niche in the music business somewhere he will bloom. I think he may just be a late bloomer. He's an introvert but whenever he does show parts of himself he doesn't seem so weird. He's definitely not as weird as Sheldon if you scratch the surface. I'm hoping that's what they're going to do with him over time.

2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Comic book store employee?

Or that too, but my money's on music since that seems to be his interest.

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

4 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Comic book store employee?

1 minute ago, Yeah No said:

Or that too, but my money's on music since that seems to be his interest.

Yes. 
And they could save a lot of $$ on set construction and blocking by having Connor start making money from posting his avante garde music on TikTok.
Maybe that's also why they have Audrey say she doesn't want Connor to go out on his own.

 

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ItCouldBeWorse

ItCouldBeWorse

On 3/7/2025 at 8:04 AM, Browncoat said:

The rest was kind of annoying -- see the problem, sort of address the problem, half-ass a fix to the problem, then ignore all of the above.  A hardware store or mechanic's shop will be more "inviting" to women when we are no longer condescended to or flat out ripped off.  Potted plants won't do it (although a toilet seat helps).  News flash, boys, there are, in fact, some of us helpless little girly-wirlys who have a clue about tools and cars!

The fresh (?) flowers were dopey.  A single plant would probably be sufficient.  Clean premises, a usable bathroom, and a place to sit while waiting for your car, with drinks and snacks are beneficial to everyone. 

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

And they could save a lot of $$ on set construction and blocking by having Connor start making money from posting his avante garde music on TikTok.

TikTok?  Posting?

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possibilities

possibilities

I agree that him not having a job or really any life outside the family is a problem. They keep hinting that it's not really his capacity so much as Audrey holding him back. 

He got a job immediately-- the very same day-- that his father said it bothered him that he wasn't independent. But they basically had him quit the same day-- not because he wanted to, it wasn't like he threw a tantrum and walked out.

He did his own laundry and took care of his neice perfectly competently the second anybody asked. When asked why he didn't do it sooner, he said nobody asked him before.

It's a thin line they are walking here-- you don't want him to look like he's taking advantage and being lazy. But at the same time, nobody seems to think he can do anything, or Audrey prefers to keep him helpless, and that is also a disservice to him. The low expectations are a problem. It happens to a lot of people with various disabilities (I know first hand, I've seen and experienced it over and over again against me in certain situations and also against friends), and it would be great if he breaks out of the stagnation and surprises everyone, instead of the show just keeping him stuck. 

I like that he's happy, and I like that he is actually motivated in particular areas, and willing and able to do things when asked. It becomes a question: why don't they ask him more? Why doesn't he do more? 

The show might not be ambitious enough to actually make a statement by having him grow and challenge the people around him who thought he was without potential. But I hope it is and that it doesn't take too long.

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