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S14.E13: Caviar Catastrophe


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1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

I get all that, but I don't think Kyle and Mauricio are that rich.  Jennifer yes, Kathy Hilton, well duh. But Kyle and Maurico? I don't think so. Mauricio is a real estate agent-- you have good years and bad years. Good months and bad months. spending one month could float, but other months the same spending could mean debt. It's just a different situation with Sutton, and her husband was in a whole different industry. 

I don't think Kyle and Mauricio are "that" rich. They have money, but not wealth. IMO. 

Rick Hilton is a (high end) real estate agent (that was his only job since the 1990s). He was partners with the late Jeff Hyland in Hilton & Hyland. Jeff Hyland passed away in 2022, his widow bought Rick out of the company, and he had to start over by founding a new agency with his son and dil. His father and grandfather left almost everything to charity, not to their (many) children and grandchildren.

Mauricio is not just a real estate agent. He is the founder and owner of The Agency (a luxury real estate company) which sold $57 billion in real estate between its creation in 2011 and 2023/4. The company has more than 80 offices all over the world. Luxury real estate doesn't really have ups and downs. The company sold the most properties worth more than $20 million in the U.S. 

Sutton's husband became a managing director and president of PIMCO (an investment company) after his 2016 divorce from Sutton. He is with the company since 2008. Sutton received only $1.235 million in cash in the divorce, a house in Los Angeles which she sold for $6 million plus, and bought the one we see on the show for about the same amount, other real estate (like the house in Augusta), art, jewelry. She receives $300,000 a month in spousal support until she remarries (I doubt she will). Her youngest child, James turned 18 in January, so the child support for him will end soon. 

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Recording this means I can fast forward through Boz, her ovaries, and her leech of a bf.  

I really hate how this has become the Dorit show this season. And I need the morally corrupt Faye Resnick off my tv. 

Sutton needs to stop giving oxygen to the screeching harpy. You’re southern? Then kill her with “bless your poor heart” until she finds a new target to curse at. 

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Dorit is SUCH a jerk. SUCH a jerk. She gets that stupid look on her face when someone calls her out for being a jerk, as if she is the victim when her little smirks and (poorly worded) snide remarks were intended to take her target down a peg. She always underplays things just enough (or so she thinks) to maintain “plausible” deniability, like not wearing a kaftan because she doesn’t like them, but feigning ignorance. Don’t get me wrong, the money comments were base, but I don’t blame Sutton for her ire, and I’m glad she is drawing a line in the sand (though I wish she didn’t stoop to Dorit’s level to do it). 
 

and yes,  Chanel has made caftans  :)

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3 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Sutton and Kyle, and, to an extent, Garcelle, are trying to be the cool kids in high school-- taking SES digs. "Richer is better." It's extraordinarily immature. 

What are SES digs? Thank you!

3 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

But people who gamble as a hobby (Tilly is a "professional" poker player) have too much money and don't know how to spend it all.

It surprised me that Jennifer said in an interview that she pays for her Dolce&Gabbana jewelry in installments.

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On 2/25/2025 at 11:51 PM, bravofan27 said:

Kyle and Sutton are PLAYERS at the reaction shot. Kyle wins, though, hands down. She reacts to everything. 

Kyle’s reaction shots seem excessively over the top. I took some acting classes. My instructors would say, “Stop SHOWING us your reaction. Just react. React as if you’re alone. And there is no audience, there are no other students, there are no cameras.”

On 2/25/2025 at 11:55 PM, ZettaK said:

Kyle has been on the show for 14 seasons, and she never made comments like Sutton (especially since Mauricio became extremely successful). 

In my opinion, Kyle is still not satisfied with her net worth. She always wants to be wealthier, and she covets and envies. She wouldn’t make those comments, because in her mind she still doesn’t have enough to feel superior. There are still many others who have more.

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Why why why does Kyle continue to use this sour tone of voice with her exceedingly lovable and adorable dogs? Instead of searching the internet or watching YouTube videos, in order to train them, to minimize the behavior that incites her to start bitching about them or at them?!? We only witnessed 12 years of this. How many years has this actually been going on? 

Mauricio needs full custody of the dogs.

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Sutton's behavior was very disappointing. 

"Poorit would get the cheapest fish (eggs), not the most expensive Ossetra caviar like I do". 

"You need to pick somebody whose wallet fits".

"Don't f... with me. I'm glad I said it. I'm proud I said it". 

At a caviar party, and confessionals!

Kyle, don't let a guy try to see if he can be by himself. He might find out he can. 

 

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5 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Sutton's behavior was very disappointing. 

"Poorit would get the cheapest fish (eggs), not the most expensive Ossetra caviar like I do". 

"You need to pick somebody whose wallet fits".

"Don't f... with me. I'm glad I said it. I'm proud I said it". 

At a caviar party, and confessionals!

Kyle, don't let a guy try to see if he can be by himself. He might find out he can. 

 

but Dorit trying to drag on and poke at Sutton and drinking water was what? like she knew what she was doing 

Sutton has reached her BS point with this .. if Dorit wants to be petty I think Suttons like lets play petty 

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Being classest is never a winning hand and I would think Sutton being good friends with a poker player would know this.

I think the money smackdown of Dorit probably has its roots in the fact they are more than aware of Dorit and PK being the griftiest grifters of all of grifterdom but still, not cool.

Dorit is a pretentious asshole and has more than enough terrible traits to call her out on rather than going the "I'm rich and you're not, nyah, nyah, nyah" route.

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what was up with them doing the Moe with another woman thing at the end of this episode like they did with the last one .. I was like why even have it on at all at the end of the last one and NOT have them discuss it till the end of this one .. it feels like they were running out of shit and tried to stretch it like we wouldn't notice 

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Well, okay, both Jennifer and Sutton really shamed me for liking the little orange roe on sushi. Well, I wouldn’t want to ruin a nice twice-baked potato with any type of fish eggs anyway… I don’t know that you’re really proving you have a refined palate by admitting that you just get the most expensive one because that means it must be the best. But, I guess this is what Sutton means about not having the wallet to stand up to her level, settling for the “measly” $250 potato instead of the $1,000 potato. So, your ex-husband was successful and rich. How does that make you a better person? And Sutton also tells Jennifer she needs a billionaire. Like, okay??? You just order one of those up? Go stand on your big wallet and we haven’t seen anyone in any financial bracket coming by for a second date, even. I guess at least Dorit has it going for her that she might be more likely to snag a new rich man than Sutton because she still has a few years of potential trophy wife looks in her. Meanwhile, Sutton will be eating her $1,000 potato all alone in the corner, perched on her wallet. (I really don’t mean to insult Sutton’s looks or anything, she’s lovely. But the whole wallet/billionaire thing really rubbed me the wrong way—the superiority and entitlement, yikes!!)

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Door-it really wants to be known as the girl who likes to use the c-word. Talk about tacky and crass. Erika should give her the infamous necklace.

Oh and as to your tagline, nobody thinks you look like a doll. At least, not the wind-up kind.

Sutton's an asshole too. She made a pregnant woman cry and rolled her eyes over it, and got bent out of shape at every little thing Crystal said or did. Door-it may be jealous of Sutton's money (i think it's more that she just enjoys toying with the fux force 5's favorite punching bag) but I think Sutton's also jealous of Doorit, that she's become known as the fashion housewife, when Sutton first season (as a friend) was all about presenting herself as someone who lives for couture. FWIW, I don't think Doorit's as fashionable as she and her castmates make her out to be. She's a brand whore.

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Gonna complain about Dorit and the kaftans again 🤣 So she doesn’t like them. Fine, I’m not crazy about them, either. But if I’m invited to a party where it’s clear kaftans are the outfit, I’ll at least TRY… maybe choose a dress that’s kaftan-ISH at least, a little flowy, brightly colored & patterned… not show up in a grey-and-white structured Dior dress. (Did you catch that it’s DIOR?) I mean, if Kathy Hilton can wear something she picked up in a tourist shop, Dorit can at least find something relevant-ish. But Dorit can make the rules, and not live by others’.

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1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

Gonna complain about Dorit and the kaftans again 🤣 So she doesn’t like them. Fine, I’m not crazy about them, either. But if I’m invited to a party where it’s clear kaftans are the outfit, I’ll at least TRY… maybe choose a dress that’s kaftan-ISH at least, a little flowy, brightly colored & patterned… not show up in a grey-and-white structured Dior dress. (Did you catch that it’s DIOR?) I mean, if Kathy Hilton can wear something she picked up in a tourist shop, Dorit can at least find something relevant-ish. But Dorit can make the rules, and not live by others’.

I didnt pay attention to the invitation ... *eyeroll** 

The fact she brags about knowing fashion.. when Kaftains have been and are big in the fashion world is kinda funny to me .. a simple google search was also at her fingertips but maybe all that information was left in the phone that the robbers kindly dropped off for her outside her house 

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Elitist, Snob Queen Dorit purposely disrespected Jennifer Tilly.  She probably just dismissed her as nothing more than just Sutton's friend and not bother to follow her on IG.  But the fact is that JT is wealthier than most of the other women.  She's also an Academy Award nominated actress.

Trust me, if the tables were turned - Dorit would have gone on and on.  I have no problem in Sutton going hard on her.  We have seen Dorit do that to others.  And Sutton spoke the truth. 

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13 hours ago, Pi237 said:

That cavier looked like a turd on a potato. 

In the south, we'd order it like this:  'I'll take one of them turd 'taters please'. That was my first thought when I saw it.  Yuk!  I have no desire to eat sushi or caviar.  YMMV.

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Kyle would get half of Mauricio's $100 million (in a community property state, married for 27 years with no prenup), on top of her own income,

I remember when Mauricio started bringing in the big bucks.  There was a shift in Kyle's demeanor.  She wasn't snobby or anything like that, but I felt like she was in the same league with people like Lisa Vanderpump once Mauricio became super successful.  They showed Kyle shopping a lot and buying quite a few expensive handbags at that time.  I don't begrudge her that.  It felt like she & Mauricio were next level kind of wealthy as compared to the early days of the show.

I'm disappointed that Sutton made the comment about having the bigger wallet.  Sigh.  You never, ever throw your money in someone's face.  Why would you say that? If you're in a fight, you would say something like 'don't mess with me because I'm bigger than you, or I know self-defense', or something along those lines. How does having a "bigger wallet" help?  Are you going to hire someone to whack her?  Are you going to sue her?  It really didn't make any sense.  

I guess she just wanted to demean her because Dorit insinuated that Sutton had a drinking problem, which wasn't cool either.  I really wanted to see the ladies have a nice luncheon, no matter how gross the food looked.  To have a "sophisticated palate" means that you'll eat weird shit.  No offense to anyone who likes that kind of food.  😉

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13 hours ago, bencr said:

I also found her put down of Dorit as someone who would prefer orange caviar pretty snobbish and tacky.

Especially when she's served KFC at a dinner and loves scrambled egg sandwiches on white bread.  There isn't anything wrong with that but Sutton rarely misses a chance to show us what a snob she can be on the show.

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53 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit provokes and Sutton gets all the blow back .. this is killing me tho

 

again IF Dorit would leave Sutton alone and stop poking Sutton wouldn't say boo .. its just weird that Dorit can provoke and its gets no blow back

It’s not that Dorit doesn’t deserve to be told off.  It’s How Sutton went about it. Playing the “I’m Richer. so, I’m Better than you!” card was really slimy. Made me see her differently. Made me see her Reba side.  Sutton has a legitimate gripe with Dorit, but There were a hundred other ways she could’ve burned her, but like all stereotypical rich people, she used her money.  Gross. 

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6 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

It’s not that Dorit doesn’t deserve to be told off.  It’s How Sutton went about it. Playing the “I’m Richer. so, I’m Better than you!” card was really slimy. Made me see her differently. Made me see her Reba side.  Sutton has a legitimate gripe with Dorit, but There were a hundred other ways she could’ve burned her, but like all stereotypical rich people, she used her money.  Gross. 

so Dorit can antagonize but Sutton should just take it? You don’t get to pick how someone you are antagonizing reacts .. that’s like lighting a match burning down the house but blaming the person inside that it’s their fault for their stuff burning … 

 

Dorit was being petty so Sutton said let’s be petty .. this is on Dorit not Sutton in my book 

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OK, I can hardly believe I’m going to say this, but I am team Dorit. I used to really like Sutton, but she’s just too much for me this year. The comment about the wallet was disgusting and kind of pisses me off that nobody other than Boz is giving Dorit any support. While Kyle is whining about being a single mom which I don’t really see as her situation, Dorit still has two young kids at home an asshole PK is living in London and being really mean. Yes Dorit is annoying, but Sutton has really gone too low

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3 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

I never said Sutton should just take it.  I just disagree with how she fought back. Of course, its her choice to take that elitist road, but I see her different now.  Doesn't mean I love and support Dorit. She's gross for her own reasons. 

That’s fair .. I don’t put a lot of stock in who has more money or wealth in general so the comment to me is just a petty comment volleyed back from Dorit’s petty comment about her drinking water .. 

 

Dorit can’t expect someone to not get petty back it’s the nature of the game .. You can’t go low and then get mad when the person you’re antagonist against goes low too .. Dorit tried her best to make Sutton’s drinking a storyline last season and is trying it again this season .. I’d be done 

So would the comment seem like a jab yes because it was and Dorit deserved it .. 

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55 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit stop talking about Sutton and having or NOT having a cocktail and Sutton wouldn't say shit to you

I understand why Dorit said something to her, because Garcelle questioned Sutton on the alcohol level in her drink.  If Garcelle was just asking about the drink in general, there wouldn't have been a question, but Garcelle phrased it like she was concerned for Sutton's sake on whether it had alcohol or not.  I don't think she needed to call Dorit a bitch over it.  I mean, Garcelle just brought it up on TV.  Why not be mad at Garcelle for doing that?

I generally like Sutton, but it was over the line to throw her money in Dorit's face.  The HW shows are a game of chess.  Sutton needs to learn how to play the game.  Her "wallet" remark just made Dorit a more sympathetic character.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

I understand why Dorit said something to her, because Garcelle questioned Sutton on the alcohol level in her drink.  If Garcelle was just asking about the drink in general, there wouldn't have been a question, but Garcelle phrased it like she was concerned for Sutton's sake on whether it had alcohol or not.  I don't think she needed to call Dorit a bitch over it.  I mean, Garcelle just brought it up on TV.  Why not be mad at Garcelle for doing that?

I generally like Sutton, but it was over the line to throw her money in Dorit's face.  The HW shows are a game of chess.  Sutton needs to learn how to play the game.  Her "wallet" remark just made Dorit a more sympathetic character.  

 

 

Why did Dorit have to comment at all .. that’s the thing .. G who is her friend was asking about the alcohol and has never insinuated she has had a problem.. Dorit and Sutton have had an issue so she knew picking up the comment would upset Sutton and did it anyway .. again this is all on Dorit 

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6 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

but Garcelle phrased it like she was concerned for Sutton's sake on whether it had alcohol or not.  I don't think she needed to call Dorit a bitch over it.  I mean, Garcelle just brought it up on TV.  Why not be mad at Garcelle for doing that?

Because Dorit took it a step further by acting confused at Garcelle asking if there's alcohol in Sutton's drink because of course there is (according to Dorit)

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2 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Because Dorit took it a step further by acting confused at Garcelle asking if there's alcohol in Sutton's drink because of course there is

Dorit knew what she was doing .. but  is now crying stop being mean when Sutton got fed up .. Dorit stop taking jabs and Sutton won’t bother you .. again watch the scene Dorit bring up her drinking water when she could have just kept her mouth shut .. she took a jab Sutton volleyed it back 

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8 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

Her "wallet" remark just made Dorit a more sympathetic character.  

 

 

This is the worst thing about it. Dorit wins by pushing Sutton to go there. Know what I mean? It’s like watching a friend Finally stand up to a bully, but doing it by saying, “Oh yeah!? Well, you’re Poor!”  You cringe, like Uggh you were in the right and just ruined it.!

Anyway, what’s with Erika chiming in so much? Even Boz, Dorit’s new best friend, stayed out of it. 

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5 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Why did Dorit have to comment at all .. that’s the thing .. G who is her friend was asking about the alcohol and has never insinuated she has had a problem.. Dorit and Sutton have had an issue so she knew picking up the comment would upset Sutton and did it anyway .. again this is all on Dorit 

It's a HWs show!  People fly off the handle all of the time.  Dorit shouldn't have chimed in after Garcelle questioned Sutton on whether the drink had alcohol, but it was a hot button topic for her, so I get why she blurted out what she did.  

I'm not taking sides, as I can see fault with all of these HWs at any given moment!  I just wanted to see a nice luncheon with the fancy caviar, but as always, it ended up in disaster.  

I like Sutton, but I don't like everything she says and does.  Dorit (in the past) crossed a line with insinuating that she's an alcoholic, and Sutton crossed a line with throwing her wealth in her face.  

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6 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

It's a HWs show!  People fly off the handle all of the time.  Dorit shouldn't have chimed in after Garcelle questioned Sutton on whether the drink had alcohol, but it was a hot button topic for her, so I get why she blurted out what she did.  

I'm not taking sides, as I can see fault with all of these HWs at any given moment!  I just wanted to see a nice luncheon with the fancy caviar, but as always, it ended up in disaster.  

I like Sutton, but I don't like everything she says and does.  Dorit (in the past) crossed a line with insinuating that she's an alcoholic, and Sutton crossed a line with throwing her wealth in her face.  

Yes and that’s what Dorit is hiding behind and the fans are falling in line with the it’s Sutton’s fault when it’s not .. 

It’s a housewives show people say petty things .. #TeamSutton 

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One last thing and I’ll let the mouse go

 

Love her or hate her at this point it’s Sutton’s show .. like literally girls came on the past 3 seasons trying to gun for her (with nudging from current wives) She was all that Lisa R could talk about .. Dorit won’t let the mouse go with her …  all roads lead through Sutton .. I’m sure she is making Bravo and Andy very happy 

 

and look at us super invested in this petty back and forth .. bravo is living for the engagement 

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorit stop taking jabs and Sutton won’t bother you .. again watch the scene Dorit bring up her drinking water when she could have just kept her mouth shut .. she took a jab Sutton volleyed it back 

I forgot about that and have been referring to the previous episode and the incident at Dorit's party.  I still stand by my comments on that, but I do agree that Dorit didn't need to add salt to the wound by asking her if she was drinking water.  It was unnecessary. 

I don't mind Sutton standing her ground, but she should choose her words wisely.  The 'wallet' comment sounded rehearsed, and she doesn't need to hit below the belt, as that defeats the purpose.  Be clever, Sutton!  Telling someone to pick on someone with their own size wallet is silly.  Makes no sense.

11 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

It surprised me that Jennifer said in an interview that she pays for her Dolce&Gabbana jewelry in installments.

SAME. That comment took me right out because I wasn't expecting Jennifer to have to pay in installments, unless that's common in wealthy circles.

9 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Why why why does Kyle continue to use this sour tone of voice with her exceedingly lovable and adorable dogs? Instead of searching the internet or watching YouTube videos, in order to train them, to minimize the behavior that incites her to start bitching about them or at them?!? We only witnessed 12 years of this. How many years has this actually been going on? 

Mauricio needs full custody of the dogs.

Are D.O.Gs still a thing? A lot of dog owners don't seem to know how to handle their dogs. They need to pay for training.

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4 hours ago, JenE4 said:

Well, okay, both Jennifer and Sutton really shamed me for liking the little orange roe on sushi. Well, I wouldn’t want to ruin a nice twice-baked potato with any type of fish eggs anyway… I don’t know that you’re really proving you have a refined palate by admitting that you just get the most expensive one because that means it must be the best. But, I guess this is what Sutton means about not having the wallet to stand up to her level, settling for the “measly” $250 potato instead of the $1,000 potato. So, your ex-husband was successful and rich. How does that make you a better person? And Sutton also tells Jennifer she needs a billionaire. Like, okay??? You just order one of those up? Go stand on your big wallet and we haven’t seen anyone in any financial bracket coming by for a second date, even. I guess at least Dorit has it going for her that she might be more likely to snag a new rich man than Sutton because she still has a few years of potential trophy wife looks in her. Meanwhile, Sutton will be eating her $1,000 potato all alone in the corner, perched on her wallet. (I really don’t mean to insult Sutton’s looks or anything, she’s lovely. But the whole wallet/billionaire thing really rubbed me the wrong way—the superiority and entitlement, yikes!!)

In Russia everyone serves the orange caviar everywhere.  And yeah - Sutton's going to get a billionaire - she can't even get the Magic Mike dancers 😂

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

again IF Dorit would leave Sutton alone and stop poking Sutton wouldn't say boo .. its just weird that Dorit can provoke and its gets no blow back

After their spat about Sutton drinking water Sutton THd that Dorit should leave her alone, and Dorit was leaving her alone when Sutton decided to make Jennifer's lunch about herself.  She should have talked to her friends and let Dorit sit and sulk, but I guess her wallet's not so big that she doesn't want that Bravo paycheck!

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5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

last weeks can I at least get a hotdog from Erika and this weeks is that a potato from Garcelle all these ladies wanna do is eat and have a good time .. lol 

The show is at its best when the ladies are having fun together, and we get to see the lifestyle and travel porn.

3 hours ago, twilightzone said:

Dorit purposely disrespected Jennifer Tilly.  She probably just dismissed her as nothing more than just Sutton's friend and doesn't bother to follow her on IG.  But the fact is that JT is wealthier than most of the other women.  She's also an Academy Award nominated actress.

Trust me, if the tables were turned - Dorit would have gone on and gone.  I have no problem in Sutton going hard on her.  We have seen Dorit do that to others.  And Sutton spoke the truth. 

Also, what's with Erika questioning why Jennifer is friends with Sutton?

They've been good friends for over a decade. 

 

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5 minutes ago, princelina said:

In Russia everyone serves the orange caviar everywhere.  And yeah - Sutton's going to get a billionaire - she can't even get the Magic Mike dancers 😂

After their spat about Sutton drinking water Sutton THd that Dorit should leave her alone, and Dorit was leaving her alone when Sutton decided to make Jennifer's lunch about herself.  She should have talked to her friends and let Dorit sit and sulk, but I guess her wallet's not so big that she doesn't want that Bravo paycheck!

The spat Dorit started .. and the only one dependent on a bravo paycheck is Dorit .. 

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15 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I guess it's not okay to call someone a bitch in their home, but it IS okay to call someone a fucking c*** when they're not around?  Oh, wait - Dorit also called others that same thing to their faces.  What a hypocrite!!  

Dorit also said that the purse grab was a "joke" - sorry - there was no joking in that exchange - Dorit had a dead serious look on her face.  She does have a habit of going too far in some exchange, and then, back pedaling to "it was a joke".

Sutton came in a little too hot tonight.  I like Sutton, but I did not like the wallet comment to Dorit (although it's probably true!).  Sutton did go low with that comment, and, as I said earlier, turnabout is fair play, so giving Dorit a bit of her own back, is expected, I guess.  I just wish Sutton had chosen some different way to get to Dorit.

I liked Kyle being the voice of reason with Dorit, though.  And, I never even thought of the fact that all of the alcohol digs from Dorit may be triggering for Sutton because of her Dad - very astute of Kyle for picking up on that (surprise, surprise - Kyle being astute!!)  

 

It was a very tacky comment BUT Sutton used what would REALLY piss off Dorit. Dorit has been pretending to be rich all the years she has been on the show. Dorit's comment about Sutton's drinking had the potential to hurt custody of her kids and has been going on for now 2 seasons.  Sutton's comment to Dorit only hurt Dorit's pride.  Sutton should bring up Dorit's jacked boobs next.

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