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S9.E18: Reunion Part 1


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Giselle really hates Candiace. When Karen said Candiace reached out Giselle got her ugly look on her face.

Karen is awful and I’m disappointed they gave her so much air time. Wendy invited Karen to the White House and Karen deliberately didn’t include her.

I am so happy Mia is being called out by some of the others. She is a nasty individual and I need her to be off my TV screen forever.

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Get to the bottom of what, Karen?  Drinking and driving and putting other's lives at risk.  She’s still not taking any accountability.

I mean, unless she got a contact high from being in the vicinity of alcohol without imbibing, I don’t know what she’s getting to the bottom of…

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Karen took accountability for the accident because she was found guilty and the police body cam videos became public, after claiming all season that she was innocent and the truth would come out (hoping that the videos and the whole case would be thrown out). 

Really? Young children are looking up to Karen (according to Karen)?

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The dresses  looked horrible,  with those pointy things in sticking out like fiberglass  wings, yuck. They can't  walk in them either. I didn't  mind Gizelle's or Stacey's  Mia eeking out no tears, because  she's  being  taken to task, she's  messy and a liar. Stacey came with receipts! 

If Karen comes back, will it be the same? 

It was an okay reunion,  2 will be enough. 

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4 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Karen is awful and I’m disappointed they gave her so much air time. Wendy invited Karen to the White House and Karen deliberately didn’t include her.

I'm getting really PO'd with Bravo.  What's the big idea showing clips of one thing in the preview but showing something completely different during the actual show?  What happened to the clip of Karen in tears that they showed in the previews?  All we got was her with all smiles and vowing to be back on the show next year.  That's some real bs!  A preview is supposed to be a snippet of what's to come.  Do better!!! 😠

***** Rant over. *****

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They all looked awful except for Gizelle who looked okay. 
All those boobs coming out of too tight tops of dresses was distracting and gross. Their wigs all looked bad too. 
There wasn’t much to clear up. The grande dame was full of shit all season and absent so who cares. Mia is a liar and a lousy housewife so who cares. 
Get to the TJ stuff! 

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I couldn't see past the boobs.  I have no idea what anyone was saying.  Wendy's right boob (our left) was just so distracting in the way it was pushed up and crumpled.  These women really need better stylists and better mirrors.  Why do they think this is appropriate to have all their mammaries exposed??  I'm not a prude but nobody wants to see all of that out there.  

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5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

When Wendy was discussing at the family dinner table giving more trust fund money to the kids if they received advanced college degrees, or if her daughter joined her college sorority, Eddie was giving her the side eye.

Yes, and it was nice to see Andy, who has real wealth, acting like a person with real wealth and not talking about such things. Shut up, Dingbat Wendy. I'm sure your kids are far from "trust fund kids," so please stop with your silly fakery. 

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I actually don't think Karen has a problem with alcohol. 💊

I laughed when Candiace got mentioned.  Gizelle's expression is exactly why Candiace should never entertain the thought of returning to this show as long as Gizelle is on the cast. The 2 cast members who made sure to reach out to other cast members and keep in touch with them when they weren't filming were Robyn and Candiace.

Did Karen get some work done on her face? She looked strange.

Ashley probably got a lump sum which included ownership of the house (with her name on the house).

LOL @ Mia being Mrs. Me Too when Stacey & Ashley were discussing their divorces (Ashley's became final last week --she is officially no longer Mrs. Kangaroo Jack).

Wendy didn't listen to Gizelle's warnings about Karen because Wendy didn't trust Gizelle. That's it, that's all.  She saw how Gizelle and Robyn conspired against Monique and that's why both Wendy and Candiace went from 1 to 100000 with Gizelle.

I wonder what Gizelle knows about Happy Stacey? 

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6 hours ago, StevieRocks said:

God would never send Dingbat Wendy anywhere--especially looking like a busted can of biscuits. Please get some tops that fit, Dingbat. Your clothes look painful, trashy, desperate, and gross.

Busted can of biscuits describes that right boob perfectly. I was trying to figure out how to describe it.  

Why did Stacy have on a black dress, at the end, when Mia came into the dressing room?  Was this part shown out of sequence?  Love Stacy coming hard for liar Mia.  Loved the agreement on Gizelle and Ashley's face when she did. Mia is persona non grata on the show and I hope she gets fired.

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I have a lot of unpopular options but here goes 

Why is it so hard to believe that Wendy and Eddie have the means, motives and opportunities to provide their children with a trust. I saw the same rhetoric with Candiace.  As if it's laughable black children could inherit wealth unless their parents are playing a sport, rapping or winning Oscars for being slaves. Candiace and Wendys children did the same thing wealthy white children did to earn the money - they were born. 

Karen is next. Drunk driving is a horrible crime and I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished for what she did.  But who do you know gets accused of any crime and just say "well ok I will just accept my punishment." Like is everyone for real?!? Karen is a ridiculous over the top character and I don't enjoy watching her AT ALL. However COMMA who wouldn't do what they had to do to stay out of jail? People sound crazy. This country have people contributing to murderers gofundme accounts but think Karen should do hard time. Chiiiiiillleeee. 

 

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4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I wondered about that too, did she get in to something more comfortable during their break?

Yes, she did. That's what women of all franchises do during breaks. I wonder how difficult it was and how much help they needed to put those dresses back on.

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3 hours ago, Boofish said:

I have a lot of unpopular options but here goes 

Why is it so hard to believe that Wendy and Eddie have the means, motives and opportunities to provide their children with a trust. I saw the same rhetoric with Candiace.  As if it's laughable black children could inherit wealth unless their parents are playing a sport, rapping or winning Oscars for being slaves. Candiace and Wendys children did the same thing wealthy white children did to earn the money - they were born. 

Karen is next. Drunk driving is a horrible crime and I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished for what she did.  But who do you know gets accused of any crime and just say "well ok I will just accept my punishment." Like is everyone for real?!? Karen is a ridiculous over the top character and I don't enjoy watching her AT ALL. However COMMA who wouldn't do what they had to do to stay out of jail? People sound crazy. This country have people contributing to murderers gofundme accounts but think Karen should do hard time. Chiiiiiillleeee. 

 

I don't have a problem with Wendy's trust fund for her kids. She and Eddie are successful professionals. But I don't like parents offering incentives to their kids in order to achieve something, and not treating them equally either, and that's why I think Eddie gave her the side eye (he doesn’t like it either). It seems like something her mother would have done.

As for Karen, thankfully, she didn't hurt anybody, so she shouldn't receive any harsh punishment. It would be better for her to have agreed to a plea deal since there were body cam videos. She would have avoided the negative media attention, and she would most probably have to do only community service, and go to rehab. Some charges are dropped, as well because of plea deals. Shannon Beador's (Shannon is on the Orange County HWs) one of the two DUI related charges was dropped. Many individuals didn't like that Karen claimed she was innocent for almost a year. 

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11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

I actually don't think Karen has a problem with alcohol. 💊

I laughed when Candiace got mentioned.  Gizelle's expression is exactly why Candiace should never entertain the thought of returning to this show as long as Gizelle is on the cast. The 2 cast members who made sure to reach out to other cast members and keep in touch with them when they weren't filming were Robyn and Candiace.

Did Karen get some work done on her face? She looked strange.

Ashley probably got a lump sum which included ownership of the house (with her name on the house).

LOL @ Mia being Mrs. Me Too when Stacey & Ashley were discussing their divorces (Ashley's became final last week --she is officially no longer Mrs. Kangaroo Jack).

Wendy didn't listen to Gizelle's warnings about Karen because Wendy didn't trust Gizelle. That's it, that's all.  She saw how Gizelle and Robyn conspired against Monique and that's why both Wendy and Candiace went from 1 to 100000 with Gizelle.

I wonder what Gizelle knows about Happy Stacey? 

Karen said she was in rehab for an addiction to prescription medication(s), and alcohol. So, I think it's both. 

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

As for Karen, thankfully, she didn't hurt anybody, so she shouldn't receive any harsh punishment. It would be better for her to have agreed to a plea deal since there were body cam videos. She would have avoided the negative media attention, and she would most probably have to do only community service, and go to rehab. Some charges are dropped, as well because of plea deals. Shannon Beador's (Shannon is on the Orange County HWs) one of the two DUI related charges was dropped. Many individuals didn't like that Karen claimed she was innocent for almost a year. 

She was on national television. I would not have admitted to anything either and I wouldn't have let those other women poke me into incriminating myself.

If anyone like podcast and or always wanted to start listening to one - listen to Scamfluencers. They have done a ton of shows on these housewives/reality stars. Theresa and Joe, Jenn Shahh, Todd and Julie Chrisley, Erika and Tom, Phaedra and Apollo just to name a few.  So much of what they said and did on those shows came back to bite them right in the ass. So yeah, Karen was annoying but anything you say can and will be used against you in court.

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3 hours ago, Boofish said:

. So yeah, Karen was annoying but anything you say can and will be used against you in court.

This part .. this is why lawyers say STFU .. don’t talk .. trying to defend yourself can work against you .. 

 

wasn’t every legal person ever dumbfounded that Jenn stayed on the show with her charges .. like get off the show till you are done or .. it will Not help you 

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This part .. this is why lawyers say STFU .. don’t talk .. trying to defend yourself can work against you .. 

 

wasn’t every legal person ever dumbfounded that Jenn stayed on the show with her charges .. like get off the show till you are done or .. it will Not help you 

Yeah people telling her to show remorse etc. on social media and television really don't know how ridiculous they sound. Once her sentencing is over and double jeopardy applies, then and only then she could say something. But I still wouldn't take a chance because she could be charged with a different crime. Karen is not the delusional one, it's all the people thinking they have a right to an apology and explanation she does not owe them.

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On 2/17/2025 at 7:27 PM, Boofish said:

I have a lot of unpopular options but here goes 

Why is it so hard to believe that Wendy and Eddie have the means, motives and opportunities to provide their children with a trust. I saw the same rhetoric with Candiace.  As if it's laughable black children could inherit wealth unless their parents are playing a sport, rapping or winning Oscars for being slaves. Candiace and Wendys children did the same thing wealthy white children did to earn the money - they were born. 

 

 

Because at this point they don't have the kind of wealth in which your children have trust funds so it is pretentious.

She probably has set up 529 funds for their education 

The kind of trust funds she is intimating that she has require multi-million dollars for the parents to have.

Five million in net assets or even ten million doesn't merit the kind of estate planning where you set up irrevocable trust funds with bonuses.

At most what they have set up are so-called Revocable Trusts in which instead of a will you put all your assets in a Trust to avoid probate (not taxes). 

Most middle and upper middle class people have these kinds of Revocable Trusts because it avoids probate. However during the life of the parents they are free to use all of the money in the "Trusts" for their own benefit so they are generally used to fund people's retirements. On the death of both parents, what is left (if any) is distributed according to a document that is equivalent to a will and typically the children would get equal shares of what is left.

When there are minor children who are the beneficiaries you set up a Trust if they inherit while they are minors and generally these Trusts can be set up so that the kids don't get all the money at 18 but at certain ages. The Trustees control the funds for the kids but have the ability to use the money for the kids and often they can invade the corpus of the Trusts for education or medical needs. 

ETA These "trusts" for minor children when both children die are in conjunction with the Revocable Inter Vivos Trusts but the corpus of the Trust isn't distributed to minors but used for their benefit by the Trustees appointed by the dead parents.

But these kinds of "Trusts" are for when both parents die and not the kind of Trusts that people think of when discussing "Trust Fund Kids"

My good friend has very significant wealth - probably $100 million or so and her kids have all kinds of Trusts. Some were set up by the grandparents to avoid taxation if their children inherited as the corpus wouldn't be taxed twice for example. 

These kinds of Trusts are irrevocable and can't be used by the person setting up the Trust - unlike Revocable Trusts. That is why only the extremely wealthy have these kinds of Trusts because even relatively wealthy people don't have millions of dollars to give away until they die. 

 

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20 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Why did Stacy have on a black dress, at the end, when Mia came into the dressing room?  Was this part shown out of sequence?

I also noticed that her red lipstick was gone when she was in the black dress. Even if she put on something more comfortable, would she immediately wipe off her lipstick during the break? Some shady editing there for sure...

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1 hour ago, Boofish said:

Karen is not the delusional one, it's all the people thinking they have a right to an apology and explanation she does not owe them.

Hey, wait a minute now.  This isn't an acquaintance who lives down the street.  This is the Grande Dame who has been gracing us with her presence for nine seasons on this shit show.  

I say she has very little right to privacy and she damn sure owes me an apology. If she doesn't think she owes me one, there's the door and bye.  Try to keep your car between the lines on your next drive. YMMV.

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54 minutes ago, 90DayFart said:

I also noticed that her red lipstick was gone when she was in the black dress. Even if she put on something more comfortable, would she immediately wipe off her lipstick during the break? Some shady editing there for sure...

She could have removed her lipstick in order to eat/drink. We saw HWs changing clothes (even wearing a bathrobe/robe) so many times during breaks. Wendy was also shown wearing a low cut (of course) tank top in the dressing room. 

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22 hours ago, Boofish said:

People sound crazy. This country have people contributing to murderers gofundme accounts but think Karen should do hard time. Chiiiiiillleeee. 

I actually have friends who live in Potomac who could've been driving (or their kids from an after school job) so even though Karen only hurt her car, she could've hurt someone else and that's why she needs some time.

The cast just sees Karen's trip to rehab for what it was (and anyone would hide out in rehab too if footage was released of them saying they were Thomas Jefferson's concubine).

19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

As for Karen, thankfully, she didn't hurt anybody, so she shouldn't receive any harsh punishment.

If this was her first offense, I'd agree but this is at least her second offense. She needs more than a slap on the wrist.

19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

She would have avoided the negative media attention, and she would most probably have to do only community service, and go to rehab.

It's been said the original plea deal was for her to do 60 days and I think that's probably what she'll end up getting.

11 hours ago, Boofish said:

So yeah, Karen was annoying but anything you say can and will be used against you in court.

Karen should've done like Candiace did the previous season and said she couldn't discuss anything because it was a legal matter.

6 hours ago, Boofish said:

Karen is not the delusional one, it's all the people thinking they have a right to an apology and explanation she does not owe them.

4 hours ago, albarino said:

I say she has very little right to privacy and she damn sure owes me an apology. If she doesn't think she owes me one, there's the door and bye.  Try to keep your car between the lines on your next drive. YMMV.

Karen actually owes the citizens of the state of Maryland an apology...I believe a month or two before Karen's accident, there was a fatal accident the next county over where the driver was drunk, drove at high speed the wrong way down one of the highways and smashed into another car, killing themselves and the other driver. The case was abuzz on social media because the driver had bragged about driving drunk. Drunk driving is not cool because eventually somebody is going to get hurt.

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Wendy was also shown wearing a low cut (of course) tank top in the dressing room. 

LOL ALL of them were busting loose, from Mia & Keiarna's boobs pushed up to their necks, Gizelle's swinging low and Ashley's in your face. 

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On 2/17/2025 at 10:27 PM, Boofish said:

This country have people contributing to murderers gofundme accounts but think Karen should do hard time. Chiiiiiillleeee. 

If this was Karen's first DUI I would say give her probation with a treatment plan.  But this isn't her first DUI.  Apparently she didn't learn her lesson the first time so I think she should go to jail.  Some people have to learn the hard way.  So let them. 

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12 hours ago, swankie said:

If this was Karen's first DUI I would say give her probation with a treatment plan.  But this isn't her first DUI.  Apparently she didn't learn her lesson the first time so I think she should go to jail.  Some people have to learn the hard way.  So let them. 

this part this isnt her first time going through this .. 2 times and you didn't learn shit ... she is doing the "rehab" to get the sentence reduced .. IF it was really for an issue she had she wouldn't have waited till she was found guilty ....

 

the comment to the cop in the car  of "this won't touch me" said all it needed to say ... She is faking this shit to get sympathy .. she needs jail time 

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On 2/17/2025 at 8:08 AM, malibu said:

I couldn't see past the boobs.  I have no idea what anyone was saying.  Wendy's right boob (our left) was just so distracting in the way it was pushed up and crumpled.  These women really need better stylists and better mirrors.  Why do they think this is appropriate to have all their mammaries exposed??  I'm not a prude but nobody wants to see all of that out there.  

I agree there were too many breasts on display, but I thought Gizelle, Ashley and Stacy looked nice. 

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18 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

Wow. Good sign that she finally admitted it. On the show, she seemed to be hedging. 

She didn't admit to addiction, though. She just said what she was going for. It made it seem even more obvious that she was only going to try to lessen her sentencing. If she really felt she had a problem, she would have gone to rehab much sooner. There were months between the end of filming and her trial. She only went after she was convicted. 

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10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

She didn't admit to addiction, though. She just said what she was going for. It made it seem even more obvious that she was only going to try to lessen her sentencing. If she really felt she had a problem, she would have gone to rehab much sooner. There were months between the end of filming and her trial. She only went after she was convicted. 

Filming ended in June, and her trial was in December. The plea deal the DA's office offered included a couple of months of prison time according to a post above. That's why she didn't accept it. It's rare that individuals serve the whole prison time in such short sentences.

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