S18.E06: Never Forget About Karla

[Elizzikra]

With Karla's name right there in the title, I'm guessing I'm gonna hate this episode.

[kristen111]

Guess Michelle changed her tune.  If David cut that hair and shaved his beard off, I think he would be very good looking and she would change her mind about him.

Being I was at the dentist today, I was looking at all their teeth.  Looks like most of them have the same sparkling perfect teeth.  Probably given to them by the show.  Just an observation.  Especially Camille and the Nurse.

[Crashcourse]

This is the first episode that I've watched since the premier. 

David might be a nice guy, but he just looks gross.

Is Madison the one who said she was beautiful?  She looks ok, but no beauty.

I saw comments about Allen's birthmark, but I don't think it looks bad at all. 

Ikechi isn't into Emem at all.  She needs to ditch the false eyelashes.

Karla is a lot.  Too much.

[kristen111]

Boring episode.  I don’t think any of them are thrilled with each other.  I didn’t care for any of the exercises they had to do with each other.   Btw, Madison’s fake braid was very off color.  Too fake looking, and here she was telling him everything that was wrong with him.  Juan doesn’t look too interested in Karla.

Edited November 27 by kristen111

[Elizzikra]

Michelle is not my favorite but I think she looks amazing on After Party. I continue to be impressed with how appropriately everyone is dressed on After Party this season. So far, not pageant gowns!

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Being I was at the dentist today, I was looking at all their teeth.  Looks like most of them have the same sparkling perfect teeth.  Probably given to them by the show.  Just an observation.  Especially Camille and the Nurse.

I hope it went well! I still have an implant I've been postponing. I don't look forward to that.

I feel like there is such an emphasis on cosmetic dentistry in this generation! In my generation, if you didn't have outright awful teeth, you were doing ok. I have ok teeth (my dad was a dentist) and it's sort of embarrassing because I had excellent dental care for the first 25 years of my life; had orthodonture, everything. But I didn't wear my retainers and my teeth have shifted, especially on the bottom. I have a lot to answer for when I see my dad at the pearly gates.

[ECM1231]

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Ikechi isn't into Emem at all. 

 

This! 100 % . He's saying all the right things for the camera, I suppose, but he's definitely not feeling it with Emem.

Michelle was on After-party and looked gorgeous. She's definitely lost weight and her arms are so toned; she's been working out.  Camille looked lovely, too.

Can someone explain what got Thomas upset about his discussion with Camille? He was saying something about cultural differences. I thought both of them were biracial. Was Thomas raised in a white household? Idk what Camille wants from a partner. Thomas seems attentive, respectful, and obviously is attracted to her. Physically, I think they make a good pair. 

I find Allen's deep voice very sexy. Madison continues to grate. Stop beating around the bush and tell your husband you're embarrassed to be seen in public with him. I have seen people looking way worse walking in Walmart, and her fashion sense isn't impeccable, but hey, she's delusional anyway, she of the great beauty. And leaving for Happy Hour their 1st night back? Not cool. Allen was very hurt. While physically not my type , Allen's a great catch. Great job, caring, intelligent, well spoken, loves his mother. If I were single, I'd scoop him up in a hot minute.

David and Michelle are doomed. He was so hurt when she said she was not comfortable sharing a bed with him. After-party guest was frank ...he said you can't go into this marriage experience and pick and choose what you will do,like an a la carte menu. You have to go all in. 

Karla and Juan are pretty; that's all I've got. 

[princelina]

4 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Being I was at the dentist today, I was looking at all their teeth.  Looks like most of them have the same sparkling perfect teeth.  Probably given to them by the show.  Just an observation.  Especially Camille and the Nurse.

Because of Alyssa and poor Chris?  😂

[LennieBriscoe]

These Reality shows aren't about to give the cast expensive dental work---or anything else---when other hopefuls are lining up behind them to participate. 

 

Edited November 27 by LennieBriscoe

[Mr. Miner]

9 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Juan doesn’t look too interested in Karla.

Juan can't get past Karla paying $10 for juice every morning. She also likes to travel, he can't handle that either. 

[kristen111]

2 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

These Reality shows aren't about to give the cast expensive dental work---or anything else---when other hopefuls are lining up behind them to participate. 

 

Look on line.  They have teeth for under $50, all kinds.  How they are put on, I have no idea.  Weird.

[Empress1]

3 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

These Reality shows aren't about to give the cast expensive dental work---or anything else---when other hopefuls are lining up behind them to participate. 

Agreed. In one of the earlier seasons of America’s Next Top Model they gave a contestant a lot of (necessary; she’d grown up poor with limited access to dental care and her teeth were crooked. She’d trained herself to smile with her mouth closed) dental work as part of her makeover. I had braces as a kid so I knew even that young that they’d spent a ton of money on her, so I assumed she’d win - it was an investment. I was shocked when she didn’t (I think she was the runner up). This show isn’t investing in its contestants like that - it’s not that kind of show.

49 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Look on line.  They have teeth for under $50, all kinds.  How they are put on, I have no idea.  Weird.

They file your existing teeth down to nubs and glue on the veneers over the nubs. I had a dentist try to upsell me on them and I refused and immediately stopped seeing him. If you get $50 veneers from someone other than a dentist (a “veneer technician” is not a thing), God help you.

8 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

He was saying something about cultural differences. I thought both of them were biracial.

That doesn’t mean they were raised the same. My friend and her husband are both Korean American but were raised very differently - she’s bilingual, her husband isn’t. Camille described Tom as “suburban,” and she hoped to see more of an “R&B influence,” which is clunky but I know what she meant.

This show is much too long. I’ll finish it when I’m doing holiday prep work later.

[LennieBriscoe]

People should watch Darcey and her sister get their teeth "fixed" in Turkey! Horrifying process for such fakety-fake results!

[atomic]

Allen deserves so much better than his vain wife Madison. All that bragging about how beautiful she is and how she takes such good care of herself...meanwhile she looks about a decade older than she really is.

[Katie111]

I think Camille wants more of a bad boy, someone more urban and "black".  I think Tom reminds her of a straight laced professional white man.  She wants someone with more of an "edge".  Which is probably who she is used to dating and obviously that never worked out for her.   

Michelle is awful but David just looks so sloppy all the time.   Put on a real shirt and real pants.  Not tank top and ugly sweats or patterned shorts.  I don't mind Allen's style but David's is horrible.   And that hair...I just can't with the front ponytail.  

I think like MIchelle, Madison is embarrassed by who they picked for her.   I think in her mind, she is at least a 9 and they picked a 4 or 5 for her.  I think she thinks it reflects badly on her.  Did they not see how beautiful she is?  (at least in her own mind?) 

Juan was so happy he made a friend.  Wonder if he has a lot of friends in real life?

[Retired at last]

I truly dislike Michelle, to start my post. She does not need to give HERSELF grace. She needs to grow up, stop whining and either get out (which I am sure will happen - they will never make it to D Day) or start being nice. We get it - you are not attracted to him at all, but you don't have to have that constant condescending look on your face if you choose to speak to him. On that paddle board activity, she was not laughing with him - she was laughing at him.  On Afterparty, Camilla said she was smashed in her seat in the middle between David and Tom when Michelle "needed space" and wouldn't even sit next to him on the ride home.

Madison may be trying to try, but she isn't getting there. She doesn't like her husband, isn't attracted to him, and wants to go back to her partying life in Chicago. This is the second time that we know about that she left him alone to drink and party. Now that they are home, she will have access to her friends and I will be surprised if this couple makes it to D Day, either. Allen does seem a little annoying and even the lady with the healing or whatever that activity was, told him to not talk so much!

Juan couldn't be less interested in Karla and the fact that she hid his luggage was ridiculous. I think that was actually a producer's hijinx - what did he need to pack for that he had to use a plastic bag? It wasn't for leaving, since he would need a much bigger bag. It couldn't be for the photo shot (which was beyond weird) since he didn't bring any other outfit. Unless it was some dry clothes. But, I guess you don't mess with Karla. The outfit she wore for their romantic dinner was beautiful, but how could she walk? The pants were about 6 inches too long. I do think it's funny that he seemed more excited about his bromance with David than spending time with his wife. 

Poor David - he seems to rely on all of the guys for support (and Madison),and they all seem to really like him.

Ikechi and Emem are strange. They are playing roles and aren't really interested in each other. Emem looks at him all the time with skepticism. And side eye. He is faking any interest and only shows affection when they are with the group. Nothing we see when they are alone. And if the conversation about having kids was real, it looks like another wonderful job by the "experts." He wants kids, but she is very involved in growing her business and is very proud of that. She said she would "consider" having kids, which should have been a huge red flag not to match these two.

Tom and Camilla are OK, but nothing special. I don't really think she likes him, but I think she wants to be married and will go along with "the process."

As far as the white teeth go, I was noticing that, too. Maybe the show told them that they would look better on camera and if they really wanted to be chosen they would whiten their teeth prior to being selected?

Edited November 27 by Retired at last

[LennieBriscoe]

27 minutes ago, Katie111 said:

I think Camille wants more of a bad boy, someone more urban and "black".  I think Tom reminds her of a straight laced professional white man.  She wants someone with more of an "edge".  Which is probably who she is used to dating and obviously that never worked out for her.   

Michelle is awful but David just looks so sloppy all the time.   Put on a real shirt and real pants.  Not tank top and ugly sweats or patterned shorts.  I don't mind Allen's style but David's is horrible.   And that hair...I just can't with the front ponytail.  

I think like MIchelle, Madison is embarrassed by who they picked for her.   I think in her mind, she is at least a 9 and they picked a 4 or 5 for her.  I think she thinks it reflects badly on her.  Did they not see how beautiful she is?  (at least in her own mind?) 

Juan was so happy he made a friend.  Wonder if he has a lot of friends in real life?

You make excellent points about David. If he personally looked more mature---hair, clothing, e g.---maybe his living in a basement apartment in his parents' dwelling could be overlooked. But he is a cliche'.

[Chatty Cake]

I thought this group would be more enjoyable to watch but it looks like none of the couples will work out again. 
 I thought Allen looked to be in pretty good shape. Madison is telling him he needs to go to the gym and  look better for her. Meanwhile she was wearing those unflattering tight stretchy shorts to travel in. Newsflash she’s not as good looking as she thinks. 
Camille was also rude to Thomas by basically telling him he doesn’t act black enough for her. How mean!  
Juan and Karla don’t seem to want an actual marriage either. She wants to be adored and he isn’t the guy to do that. 
Ikechi and Emen say the right things but there isn’t any passion behind it. He doesn’t have feelings. 
Michelle is awful. I agree David could clean up the hair and clothing but he has no motivation to when he’s with a stank faced jerk like Michelle.

[Empress1]

2 hours ago, Katie111 said:

Michelle is awful but David just looks so sloppy all the time.   Put on a real shirt and real pants.  Not tank top and ugly sweats or patterned shorts.  I don't mind Allen's style but David's is horrible. 

It’s about effort. Allen makes some; David looks like he doesn’t. I went on a date with a man who showed up dressed like he’d just woken up (his clothes were torn), and it was such a turn-off.

[kristen111]

4 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Agreed. In one of the earlier seasons of America’s Next Top Model they gave a contestant a lot of (necessary; she’d grown up poor with limited access to dental care and her teeth were crooked. She’d trained herself to smile with her mouth closed) dental work as part of her makeover. I had braces as a kid so I knew even that young that they’d spent a ton of money on her, so I assumed she’d win - it was an investment. I was shocked when she didn’t (I think she was the runner up). This show isn’t investing in its contestants like that - it’s not that kind of show.

They file your existing teeth down to nubs and glue on the veneers over the nubs. I had a dentist try to upsell me on them and I refused and immediately stopped seeing him. If you get $50 veneers from someone other than a dentist (a “veneer technician” is not a thing), God help you.

That doesn’t mean they were raised the same. My friend and her husband are both Korean American but were raised very differently - she’s bilingual, her husband isn’t. Camille described Tom as “suburban,” and she hoped to see more of an “R&B influence,” which is clunky but I know what she meant.

This show is much too long. I’ll finish it when I’m doing holiday prep work later.

Far too many commercials.   

[kristen111]

12 hours ago, princelina said:

Because of Alyssa and poor Chris?  😂

I don’t remember them too clearly, but I think Alyssa was a Bitch?.

[atomic]

40 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

I don’t remember them too clearly, but I think Alyssa was a Bitch?.

How DARE you say such a thing about SUCH a good person!

 

[Madame Crabanda]

Karla is such a fake. She loves the attention she gets when she says she’s a “sound healer” yet she does not possess a true healing nature. Instead, she spreads toxicity by raining down her wrath, apparently for hours, on Juan as punishment for making the innocent statement that he had enjoyed something that didn't include her. She is so full of herself, she turned what looked like a fantastic once in a lifetime experience into an opportunity to pout in order to hammer home, “See what a bad person you are for making me feel like I was for one hour not the most important person in your universe." Her sour face in some of the photos just screams, "I'm a healer!" Doesn't it?

As far as the negative energy she mentioned, I think that is a perfect example of “She who smelt it, dealt it.”

 

Edited November 27 by Madame Crabanda

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

How DARE you say such a thing about SUCH a good person!

 

She is a good fucking person…

[Chalby]

9 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Look on line.  They have teeth for under $50, all kinds.  How they are put on, I have no idea.  Weird.

That brings to mind "flippers" that parents bought their kids for  childrens' pageants. 

2 hours ago, Madame Crabanda said:

Karla is such a fake. She loves the attention she gets when she says she’s a “sound healer” yet she does not possess a true healing nature. Instead, she spreads toxicity by raining down her wrath, apparently for hours

For a "healer" she is too in tune to negative vocabulary. Energy healer don't fixate on negative traits to complain about. Even her juice selection negates everything Juan believes in. She's not as perceptive as she thinks she is.

[princelina]

5 hours ago, kristen111 said:

I don’t remember them too clearly, but I think Alyssa was a Bitch?.

Not just a bitch, but THE biggest bitch ever to appear on this show!  Although in her defense she made it abundantly clear to "the experts" that good teeth were a must, so in their wisdom they fixed her up with a guy with bad teeth 🤷‍♀️

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, princelina said:

Not just a bitch, but THE biggest bitch ever to appear on this show!  Although in her defense she made it abundantly clear to "the experts" that good teeth were a must, so in their wisdom they fixed her up with a guy with bad teeth 🤷‍♀️

She did, and his teeth weren't the best but she treated him like he was subhuman from literally the moment she met him.

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I thought Allen looked to be in pretty good shape. 

I think that he is. I mean, he's not chiseled, but who is? I'm not sure that Madison's issue is with his body type as much as it is with his facial features and his wardrobe. Allen seems like he is able to dress for the occasion though. In his pre-match interviews, he had a nice shirt and blazer that looked really good on him. On After Party he is dressed casually but nicely. He has great taste in shoes.

I might have reacted similarly to Madison in my youth but now that I'm older, I really don't care what my husband wears. Clothes are not important to him. He dresses up when the occasion warrants it but on a random day/evening, he is likely in sweatpants and t-shirts or cotton drawstring shorts and a t-shirt. He is clean but has let his hair grow (I'd love to have his curls) and has a beard. He has tattoos and a piercing. He was much more clean cut when I first met him. It just doesn't matter and I think the older I get, the more I realize that. 

[princelina]

23 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I think that he is. I mean, he's not chiseled, but who is? I'm not sure that Madison's issue is with his body type as much as it is with his facial features and his wardrobe. Allen seems like he is able to dress for the occasion though. In his pre-match interviews, he had a nice shirt and blazer that looked really good on him. On After Party he is dressed casually but nicely. He has great taste in shoes.

I might have reacted similarly to Madison in my youth but now that I'm older, I really don't care what my husband wears. Clothes are not important to him. He dresses up when the occasion warrants it but on a random day/evening, he is likely in sweatpants and t-shirts or cotton drawstring shorts and a t-shirt. He is clean but has let his hair grow (I'd love to have his curls) and has a beard. He has tattoos and a piercing. He was much more clean cut when I first met him. It just doesn't matter and I think the older I get, the more I realize that. 

I think it was the wedding night underpants - she saw his face at the wedding and was fine with it.  If people who come on this show don't even have the imagination to know what can be changed then they really should have stayed home.  When I met Mr P he owned jeans, t-shirts, work uniforms and a wedding suit. When he's with me he needs nicer outfits sometimes, and he now has them, and will wear them when I say it's necessary.  Other than that he continues to build his t-shirt collection and everyone is happy.

[lu1535]

Does anyone else feel like Emem is under the influence? She was pretty unsteady sitting down to dinner and her affect seems dulled. Just wondering if I'm being too cynical.

[Mr. Miner]

Ikechi tried to get on the Houston season and apparently moved to Chicago to get on this season. He seems fake to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Jodyj]

Reading through these threads, I am a bit disappointed in how hard you guys are going at David's looks. He is not your conventional handsome but he sure isn't the troglodyte you seem to think he is. I have read ugly, scary, dirty, unkempt when talking about him. Guess what. Looks fade. Looks change. 

He came into this honestly looking for a wife to treat like a princess and instead they gave him a hag woman. She literally said he did not look like what she saw in her head and never gave him a chance. 

I know a lot of you are young here probably but let me tell you what can and has happened in the real world. You can meet someone you have zero physical attraction to and end up being together for more than 32 years because the inside is beautiful. And guess what, once you see how beautiful the inside is, that outside you didn't find attractive suddenly becomes attractive. 

And it was also a bit disgusting reading on here that someone should cover up a birthmark because you consider it ugly. It is a freaking birthmark. He was born with it. Maybe all of us could be a bit less judgmental about physical things.

I hope to God they don't ever read this. 

[Crashcourse]

9 minutes ago, Jodyj said:

And it was also a bit disgusting reading on here that someone should cover up a birthmark because you consider it ugly. It is a freaking birthmark. He was born with it.

This part I agree with.

[Chalby]

1 hour ago, Jodyj said:

Reading through these threads, I am a bit disappointed in how hard you guys are going at David's looks. He is not your conventional handsome but he sure isn't the troglodyte you seem to think he is. I have read ugly, scary, dirty, unkempt when talking about him. Guess what. Looks fade. Looks change. 

He came into this honestly looking for a wife to treat like a princess and instead they gave him a hag woman. She literally said he did not look like what she saw in her head and never gave him a chance. 

I know a lot of you are young here probably but let me tell you what can and has happened in the real world. You can meet someone you have zero physical attraction to and end up being together for more than 32 years because the inside is beautiful. And guess what, once you see how beautiful the inside is, that outside you didn't find attractive suddenly becomes attractive. 

And it was also a bit disgusting reading on here that someone should cover up a birthmark because you consider it ugly. It is a freaking birthmark. He was born with it. Maybe all of us could be a bit less judgmental about physical things.

I hope to God they don't ever read this. 

I understand your feelings re: some opinions on this forum. Again, these are merely opinions, not facts. No one has said David looks are hideous, or irreparable. It's his haphazard, laissez faire approach to clothing and hair  that bugs them.

I agree re: birthmark, but I'm hypersensitive re: my own body's scars. If someone told me that the scar on my knee should be covered I'd feel bad, but I wouldn't censor their opinion. Alan's birthmark is a nonissue for me.

Married at first sight is ALL about matching people based upon personality/general commonalities. Physical attractiveness (or lack thereof) is going to be discussed (especially by viewers).

That's the joy of primetimer snark... what I dislike, someone else may love. You can bet on the fact that David's IG dms are chock full of single women who feel David's a perfect fit for them.

Last observation... I doubt any participants apply to MAFS for an actual spouse, including David. In 2024, it's all about participants' online presence and accumulated "likes".

[Chalby]

6 hours ago, lu1535 said:

Does anyone else feel like Emem is under the influence? She was pretty unsteady sitting down to dinner and her affect seems dulled. Just wondering if I'm being too cynical.

It's hard to read Emem with those weird eyelashes she wears. I agree with those who point out she has to position her head a certain way to see anything. Bizarre.

Other times, she's smiling and nodding, but she appears as though her eyes are glazed over and she's not following the conversation. I don't attribute this to drugs, but rather to their enormously boring conversations. 😴 

15 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

On After Party he is dressed casually but nicely. He has great taste in shoes.

I wonder if men are aware of how much emphasis women place upon shoes when we size up a fellow's appearance. 😉 

[Crashcourse]

21 minutes ago, Chalby said:

I wonder if men are aware of how much emphasis women place upon shoes when we size up a fellow's appearance. 😉 

Exactly!  I remember my mom telling me long ago to always check out his shoes.

[Elizzikra]

3 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Exactly!  I remember my mom telling me long ago to always check out his shoes.

I don’t always notice shoes but I noticed his. I enjoy a nice shoe!

[princelina]

9 hours ago, Chalby said:

It's hard to read Emem with those weird eyelashes she wears. I agree with those who point out she has to position her head a certain way to see anything. Bizarre.

Other times, she's smiling and nodding, but she appears as though her eyes are glazed over and she's not following the conversation. I don't attribute this to drugs, but rather to their enormously boring conversations. 😴 

Here's something Karla got right on one of the afterparties - the honeymoon should be for having fun and enjoying getting to know one another. Sitting at dinner and having someone ask me, "How do you like to be loved?"  🤢  Neither fun nor enjoyable.  Since Ikechi actually moved cities to get on this show, I feel like he's auditioning for "sensitive poet" every time he starts blabbing.

[JenE4]

9 hours ago, princelina said:

Here's something Karla got right on one of the afterparties - the honeymoon should be for having fun and enjoying getting to know one another. Sitting at dinner and having someone ask me, "How do you like to be loved?"  🤢  Neither fun nor enjoyable.  Since Ikechi actually moved cities to get on this show, I feel like he's auditioning for "sensitive poet" every time he starts blabbing.

Yes! I think this is where some of these couples are going off the rails by being too serious, or in David’s case, laying out all of the red flags you probably won’t like about me within the first 5 minutes of meeting. They need to just have some fun and decide that they like each other’s company before delving into all of the soul-baring stuff. They think my spouse needs to know this about me, and while that’s true, you need to hit that shmoopy head-over-heels stage first wherein hearing all of that stuff is going to make you feel closer that you’re opening up to each other rather than being scared away by this stranger’s red flags. I wonder whether David and Michelle would be in a different place if they started off just paddle boarding and spending time together. I mean, I don’t think they’d live happily ever after, but maybe she’d actually spend time on their honeymoon together. Now that they’re home, it sounds like they’ll never even see each other since they work opposite shifts, which is fine by her to run out the clock to decision day, I guess. David’s taking it better than Karla, who will rein vengeance on Juan for daring to spend time with David. (Though telling her he forgot she existed was pretty bad!) But, good news is, while the show might not result in any romance, we got a bromance for the ages with new besties 4-Eva, David and Juan!

But even worse than trying to force these deep conversations is whatever Ikechi and Emem have going on with this “sexy God talk.” He’ll start quoting some scripture, and she’s will be all “mmms” and “oooh, yes!” like Sally in the diner in When Harry Met Sally.

[princelina]

3 hours ago, JenE4 said:

But even worse than trying to force these deep conversations is whatever Ikechi and Emem have going on with this “sexy God talk.” He’ll start quoting some scripture, and she’s will be all “mmms” and “oooh, yes!” like Sally in the diner in When Harry Met Sally.

Yes - it seems like she's trying to attract him and he's trying to get out of doing anything by just weird sexy talk 😄

[Retired at last]

This season must be bad if NONE of the couples cared enough to hook up over their honeymoon, that we know about. Usually, at least one couple is drunk enough or attracted enough to consummate their marriage.

[seacliffsal]

I cannot express enough how much I LOVED Juan's clear response to Karla's 'punishment' of him that she was being passive-aggressive and he was not having it.  She immediately changed her responsiveness to him as she thought he would be devastated by her treatment of him and instead he was 'just stop.'  Well done Juan, well done.  Karla is so fake as she wants all of the attention for being so in tune with energy, nature, whatever, when instead it's clear she just wants to be the center of everything.  Why else did she have to walk through the middle of the group as they were having a last drink at the hotel?  I am so glad that Juan has her number.  And, I am also glad that Juan has found a good friend in David.

I felt for Tom when he was talking about how Camille didn't think he was 'black enough.'  Way to judge others Camille.  Does everyone who shares racial/ethnic backgrounds have to act the same?  Way to stereotype.  I like Tom (which I didn't think I would after the first episode).  

Madison may be as harsh towards Alan as is Michelle towards David, but she just hides it a bit better.  But neither one of them appears to be 'all that' to me.  I like both Alan and David better than I like their wives.  

Ikechi just seems too fake to me.  But, I love most of Emem's clothes.  

I fast-forwarded a lot of this episode as I didn't really care about most of the activities.  But, I did watch most of Juan and Karla's photo shoot as she was trying so hard to punish him and failing miserably.

[DrewPaul2010]

Just watched the episode.

David and Michelle are clearly doomed. Its hard to imagine a couple least likely to succeed. Opposites don't really attack. And she's put the friends only sign out. She is single in every respect. 

Madison and Allen aren't far behind. Madison is really getting on my nerves because she came to show in search of a good man and a husband not a body builder or fashion model. You didn't have the show pick someone out so you can alter them to suit you. Imagine if Allan said to her this muscle look on my woman isn't that appealing to me could you lighten up.

Sadly he can try to do everything she wants and then she'll dump him for that reason. I would love to hear him say I think for the remainder of our time together I'm going to be who I am am dress how I like to dress and if I fail to meet your expectations you can seek a refund 6 weeks.

Jaun and Karla are kind of on the bubble. Physically they match up very well but nothing deeper.

The other couples look solid. Little fights don't mean much.

 

 

 

[DrewPaul2010]

On 11/27/2024 at 8:01 AM, Katie111 said:

 

I think like MIchelle, Madison is embarrassed by who they picked for her.   I think in her mind, she is at least a 9 and they picked a 4 or 5 for her.  I think she thinks it reflects badly on her.  Did they not see how beautiful she is?  (at least in her own mind?)

Perhaps to make herself [Madison] less snobby about their physical attributes and claim the important thing is honesty, sincerity, desire to be in a marriage have children eventually. Someone who will be a good father. Its supposed to be married at first sight not major alterations at first sight.

Allan doesn't help himself by not being confident and assertive and comfortable in his own skin. It doesn't help that his new wife is giving a frontal assault on his pride and ego. Its one thing to point out annoying habits its another to say with the exception of a complete makeover you're great.

[shok]

10 hours ago, DrewPaul2010 said:

Its one thing to point out annoying habits its another to say with the exception of a complete makeover you're great.

What got me is her telling Allen how he had to dress to impress her while she's sitting there in a gym workout outfit that wasn't even matching colors. To think she got on a plane and thought she was dressed properly and was so highfalutin about it all.

[Starlight925]

All the other wives had cute travel outfits except for Madison, who forgot that she's not about to get on the elliptical.  She looked ridiculous.  She's telling Allen that HE doesn't dress well?

Karla is what we call an Emotional Narcissist.  Needy, needy, needy.  Juan will forever walk on eggshells with this one.

Michelle doesn't like David.  We get it.  But you don't what we don't get?  Your lack of kindness.  David isn't some douchebag jerk.  He's a nice guy who doesn't fit your ideal.  That's ok, it's life.  What isn't ok is being downright nasty to him.

[SummerDreams]

Could someone please explain what Camille meant by saying that her and Tom have cultural differences?

[SummerDreams]

On 11/27/2024 at 6:35 PM, Chatty Cake said:

it looks like none of the couples will work out again. 

That's the reason they let it be known from the start that there was going to be an infidelity - couple switch or something. Because they knew these couples are not going to work and viewers won't continue watching.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, SummerDreams said:

Could someone please explain what Camille meant by saying that her and Tom have cultural differences?

Tom is biracial (African American and white). I believe he said that he was raised with more white friends and in a more white community. He described himself as having a more "white suburbs" style in terms of dress and appearance. Camille said that she grew up around what she described as more of an "urban" or "street" style. 

1 minute ago, SummerDreams said:

That's the reason they let it be known from the start that there was going to be an infidelity - couple switch or something. Because they knew these couples are not going to work and viewers won't continue watching.

I think that Tom and Camille have a shot. They both seem like kind people with the same desires for marriage and family and similar values. Most importantly, they both seem to be going into the this marriage with the right attitude; paying attention to first impressions but trying to not draw conclusions early on.

[Chatty Cake]

6 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

All the other wives had cute travel outfits except for Madison, who forgot that she's not about to get on the elliptical.  She looked ridiculous.  She's telling Allen that HE doesn't dress well?

Karla is what we call an Emotional Narcissist.  Needy, needy, needy.  Juan will forever walk on eggshells with this one.

Michelle doesn't like David.  We get it.  But you don't what we don't get?  Your lack of kindness.  David isn't some douchebag jerk.  He's a nice guy who doesn't fit your ideal.  That's ok, it's life.  What isn't ok is being downright nasty to him.

Very well said. I also thought Madison didn’t dress very well for the trip home which was why her speech to him came off extra rude. She seemed quite put off by his vegetable undies. He mentioned In an earlier episode that he often walks around the house barely dressed when he’s working from home. She decided it would be a problem even though she hasn’t been in his presence in that scenario yet. Also at first I thought it was cold of her to leave on their first night at home but then I thought, they’ve basically been on a first date since they met at the alter. I could see needing a break.

I also liked your comment about Michelle being unkind. We don’t want to see someone treated like crap because he doesn’t appeal to her physically.  These people are too hung up on what they wanted instead of trying to get to know their new spouses.

On 11/29/2024 at 1:42 PM, Retired at last said:

This season must be bad if NONE of the couples cared enough to hook up over their honeymoon, that we know about. Usually, at least one couple is drunk enough or attracted enough to consummate their marriage.

Camille showed Thomas her lingerie but seemed to cool off toward him as they got to know each other better. Maybe they will work out in the end. She’s got to let go of what she usually goes for since that hasn’t worked out for her. 
Emen behaved like she wanted to cuddle. I don’t think Ikechi feels the same.

I think Juan wanted an acting gig. If he had been paired with someone else we may have seen husband material from him. Karla is too much for him.
 

[Elizzikra]

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I think Juan wanted an acting gig. If he had been paired with someone else we may have seen husband material from him. Karla is too much for him.

One or both of them will end up on Dancing with the "Stars."

[princelina]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:05 AM, seacliffsal said:

I felt for Tom when he was talking about how Camille didn't think he was 'black enough.'  Way to judge others Camille.  Does everyone who shares racial/ethnic backgrounds have to act the same?  Way to stereotype.  I like Tom (which I didn't think I would after the first episode).  

Agreed - I think that is stupid.  Just like Juan claiming to be single because of his super-complex Hispanic-American mixture.  In a similar vein - I'm tired of hearing reality tv peeps always say they're too much "in my head" - is that slang for self-centered and narcissistic? 🙄

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I also liked your comment about Michelle being unkind. We don’t want to see someone treated like crap because he doesn’t appeal to her physically.  These people are too hung up on what they wanted instead of trying to get to know their new spouses.

Furthermore, Michelle has mentioned at least 3 times, if not more, that she needs to be kinder to HERSELF and give herself a break!