Chit-Chat: The Feels

[peacheslatour]

From AL.Com (Alabama News) California does not “deserve” any money to help with the wildfires raging in Los Angeles “unless they show that they’re gonna change their ways,” Alabama’s senior senator said Monday.

During an appearance Monday on Newsmax, Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., was asked why other states should “be bailing out California for choosing the wrong people to lead their state.”

So, after the rest of the country bailing out Florida, Texas, and ALABAMA almost every hurricane season.

Maybe, we’re either a country and we ALWAYS help each other or, Alabama can fuck off too next time they need help.

[partofme]

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[bluegirl147]

Tuberville is a disgrace.  He has not said one thing that wasn't idiotic since becoming a Senator. Actually probably started long before that but at least I wasn't exposed to it.

[Anela]

12 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I haven’t seen one person actually post that they support him.  You might have gleaned that from what they posted but no one has outright posted it.

Susan Sarandon can say whatever she wants, she has every right.  I don’t understand why anyone would care what her thoughts are on politics.  She’s an actress.  Why would her opinion matter to me?

Susan Sarandon is an informed voter, and I’ve gleaned that some people are trump supporters, from what they’ve actually said - one said they would be dancing at his rally, and more than one have said they wanted a different thread, where they could celebrate his win, and be happy.  As I said, I guess you haven’t seen those posts.  

the gross memes posted about Kamala, were another significant pointer.  

I keep forgetting to add that when voter fraud has been found, it’s been mostly republicans responsible. We had a case of a guy from Ohio, voting in both Ohio and Florida, in 2020.

Shaker Heights man found guilty of double voting in 2020 and 2022

and 2022!  

[ProudMary]

One more thing about obtaining official state ID: Elderly people, I'm talking about those born in the 1920s and 1930s, often do not have birth certificates, which are essential to obtaining ID. In-home births were still happening through the Great Depression, especially in rural areas, and those births were not always officially registered. A lot of people who fall into this category actually *have* been registered to vote for decades, when registration was simpler, and have voter ID cards that are no longer considered valid because they're not official state photo IDs. These people have been disenfranchised.

[Avaleigh]

10 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

One more thing about obtaining official state ID: Elderly people, I'm talking about those born in the 1920s and 1930s, often do not have birth certificates, which are essential to obtaining ID. In-home births were still happening through the Great Depression, especially in rural areas, and those births were not always officially registered. A lot of people who fall into this category actually *have* been registered to vote for decades, when registration was simpler, and have voter ID cards that are no longer considered valid because they're not official state photo IDs. These people have been disenfranchised.

This is yet another reason why every state should permit people to vote by mail.

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Avaleigh said:

This is yet another reason why every state should permit people to vote by mail.

We've had that here in Washington since 2005. I've been called to have two witness's confirm my signature once. I had my bosses at work do it, who hilariously had way worse signatures than I do. Anyway they're vigilant about it here and everyone loves it.

[Lantern7]

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

From AL.Com (Alabama News) California does not “deserve” any money to help with the wildfires raging in Los Angeles “unless they show that they’re gonna change their ways,” Alabama’s senior senator said Monday.

During an appearance Monday on Newsmax, Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., was asked why other states should “be bailing out California for choosing the wrong people to lead their state.”

Two things to learn:

1. What's worse than a state almost electing a brain-dead football player with no government experience to the Senate based on how he played the game in college? Actually electing a brain-dead football coach with no government experience to the Senate based on how he coached in college.

2. The University of Alabama Auburn was Herschel Walker's safety school.

Thanks for correcting me, @Ohiopirate02!

Edited 8 hours ago by Lantern7

[Bookish Jen]

Michelle Obama will not attend Trump's inauguration.

[Spartan Girl]

I know Obama has to go as a former President, and I don’t hold it against him. But yeah, good for Michelle.

[bluegirl147]

16 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

One more thing about obtaining official state ID: Elderly people, I'm talking about those born in the 1920s and 1930s, often do not have birth certificates, which are essential to obtaining ID. In-home births were still happening through the Great Depression, especially in rural areas, and those births were not always officially registered. A lot of people who fall into this category actually *have* been registered to vote for decades, when registration was simpler, and have voter ID cards that are no longer considered valid because they're not official state photo IDs. These people have been disenfranchised.

It was already hard enough to get a photo ID/Drivers license before 9/11 but after 9/11 it got so much harder.  My middle name is spelled differently on my birth certificate.  Before my license was due to be renewed I called the DMV and asked if this was going to be a problem. They said yes.  I had to drive to my state capital, 3 hours away, to get a corrected birth certificate that I had to pay for.  So with that, my marriage license and two utility bills and I think I think something else I could get my license renewed.  People who don't have utility bills in their name are screwed.  People who over the years lost birth certificates and marriage licenses (you need that to explain a name change) are screwed.

So yes mail in ballots would be so much better.

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Spartan Girl said:

I know Obama has to go as a former President, and I don’t hold it against him. But yeah, good for Michelle.

She didn't go to Carter's funeral either. I think she's done with the political world altogether and I don't blame her one bit.

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Two things to learn:

1. What's worse than a state almost electing a brain-dead football player with no government experience to the Senate based on how he played the game in college? Actually electing a brain-dead football coach with no government experience to the Senate based on how he coached in college.

2. The University of Alabama was Herschel Walker's safety school.

I remember when former athletes would become actors in movies and we all shook our heads because they weren't good actors.  And now here we are electing a former coach and almost electing a former football player and a lot of us our shaking our heads because he isn't a good Senator.  Or person for that matter.  But the Republican who ran for that seat before him was a credibly accused sexual deviant so Tuberville was a step up?

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

She didn't go to Carter's funeral either. I think she's done with the political world altogether and I don't blame her one bit.

She has no more fucks to give and I think she speaks for a lot of us.

[PRgal]

9 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

One more thing about obtaining official state ID: Elderly people, I'm talking about those born in the 1920s and 1930s, often do not have birth certificates, which are essential to obtaining ID. In-home births were still happening through the Great Depression, especially in rural areas, and those births were not always officially registered. A lot of people who fall into this category actually *have* been registered to vote for decades, when registration was simpler, and have voter ID cards that are no longer considered valid because they're not official state photo IDs. These people have been disenfranchised.

How were men born in the early 1920s drafted for the military if they never had a birth certificate?  

[Spartan Girl]

9 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

She didn't go to Carter's funeral either. I think she's done with the political world altogether and I don't blame her one bit.

I think she would have gone if she wouldn’t have had to sit next to Trump, but Carter would have more than understood. 

[fastiller]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

She's disliked in my neck of the woods because she got Mike Fisher to leave the Senators and relocate to that Nashville Predators.  My sister never forgave either of them for that.  Now we have another reason to hate her.

Hockey blood runs thick.

11 minutes ago, PRgal said:

How were men born in the early 1920s drafted for the military if they never had a birth certificate?  

Just one story. How were a lot of minors able to enlist in the US army during WW2?

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[ebk57]

I live in a state where it's illegal to ask for ID when voting.  If someone asks for my ID, I'm supposed to call the voter help line people and they will send someone over to do...something.  That's the way it's always been here and I greatly appreciate it. 

[annzeepark914]

I don't think any eyebrows should be raised re: Michelle Obama skipping Trump's inauguration. After all, he didn't even show up for Biden's inauguration. The poor loser took off for Florida that morning & was even pi$$ed that he didn't get a big send-off at Andrews. I'll be getting my hair colored & cut about the time he starts verbally trashing my country (just as he did the first time around). 

FOTUS: Felon of the United States 

 

[Dimity]

7 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

The poor loser took off for Florida that morning & was even pi$$ed that he didn't get a big send-off at Andrews.

Ah sweet memories.  How little did we suspect 4 years ago that there was going to be a sequel.

[Dimity]

And for the Trump Denialists posting here I can't think of a better way to convey to you exactly why people are not calming down and are not prepared to give him a chance:

 

[Ohiopirate02]

2 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Two things to learn:

1. What's worse than a state almost electing a brain-dead football player with no government experience to the Senate based on how he played the game in college? Actually electing a brain-dead football coach with no government experience to the Senate based on how he coached in college.

2. The University of Alabama was Herschel Walker's safety school.

Tommy Tuberville was never the coach at Alabama. He coached at Auburn. Which should have been a mark against him, but the Trump seal of approval did wonders.

I still can't get over the guy who poisoned the trees in Toomers Corner was punished more than Trump.

[Spartan Girl]

Johnson said the flags would be at full staff on January 20th, then back to half staff January 21 for Jimmy Carter.

Spiteful, petty, deplorable (REDACTED)s

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, Avaleigh said:

This is yet another reason why every state should permit people to vote by mail.

That's how it is in CA.  You prove your identity and eligibility to vote when you register.  There's no need to have to keep proving it every election before even being able to cast a ballot.  If there's a potential issue when the ballot is received, it's investigated and then either counted or not.  For people who do go to the polls, if there's a potential issue there, they get to cast a provisional ballot to be investigated.  We don't potentially deny registered voters the right to actually cast their vote right off the bat simply for lack of a particular document.

Where voting restrictions exist, who they were passed by, and who they disproportionately affect make it quite clear they're not designed to prevent voter fraud (which is not remotely a systemic problem; it's something that happens rarely to begin with and is usually discovered by existing processes when it does) but to disenfranchise voters more likely to vote for Democrats.  Gerrymandering + disenfranchisement has been an effective strategy, unfortunately, especially for state level offices.

[mostlylurking]

I can totally see why she won’t be at the inauguration and honestly I don’t think ANY of the former presidents should be there (this is not normal stop normalizing it).  But I was surprised Michelle wasn’t at Carter’s funeral.  I actually thought maybe she was sick or something and couldn’t attend.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, mostlylurking said:

 But I was surprised Michelle wasn’t at Carter’s funeral.  I actually thought maybe she was sick or something and couldn’t attend.

Same but if she feels she can't be in the same room with Herr Trump I certainly wouldn't blame her.  I'm not happy sharing the same continent.

[ProudMary]

2 hours ago, PRgal said:

How were men born in the early 1920s drafted for the military if they never had a birth certificate?  

I don't know the official answer to this--somewhat snarky?-- question. (It's hard to tell online, so my apologies if I read it wrong.) I'm going to use my father, born in NY in 1912, who did not have a birth certificate, as a reference. I've done some genealogy work on my family and I know that my Dad appears in the 1920 and 1930 census records as an 8 year old and as an 18 year old, respectively, which both show him born in NY. Those are official records, which likely sufficed for him to obtain a driver's license and a voter registration card. I know he had both by the 1930s. 

As to being drafted into the military, I found this graphic on a genealogy site. According to the information I'm uploading here, FDR passed a peacetime Selective Service Act in September, 1940. The first registration occurred in October, 1940. My Dad would have met the age and other requirements for that first registration. I'm assuming he registered at that time as required by law. He was inducted into the Army in February, 1942. (I have my Dad's military records.)

Again, he never had a birth certificate. 

 

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[Lantern7]

13 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Tommy Tuberville was never the coach at Alabama. He coached at Auburn.

I corrected my post. How come Bo Jackson hasn’t made any political moves to the far right? Or would have have to had been poisoned by YKW like Herschel was ages ago in the USFL?

[Anela]

1 hour ago, annzeepark914 said:

I don't think any eyebrows should be raised re: Michelle Obama skipping Trump's inauguration. After all, he didn't even show up for Biden's inauguration. The poor loser took off for Florida that morning & was even pi$$ed that he didn't get a big send-off at Andrews. I'll be getting my hair colored & cut about the time he starts verbally trashing my country (just as he did the first time around). 

FOTUS: Felon of the United States 

 

I’m not going to be watching, either.  I saw a post on threads, that MSNBC will be covering it all, and Maddow will be back for the first hundred days, but I don’t get MSNBC, and I don’t want to pay attention to anything he does.  I’m one of the people who is sure that they cheated, I don’t care how many people stayed home.  They pulled all kinds of shit around this election, and tried to steal the last one, by any means necessary.  
 

well, I do care how many people stayed home, but I’m still sure that they didn’t win fairly.  

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[peacheslatour]

7 minutes ago, Anela said:

I’m not going to be watching, either.  I saw a post on threads, that MSNBC will be covering it all, and Maddow will be back for the first hundred days, but I don’t get MSNBC, and I don’t want to pay attention to anything he does.  I’m one of the people who is sure that they cheated, I don’t care how many people stayed home.  They pulled all kinds of shit around this election, and tried to steal the last one, by any means necessary.  
 

well, I do care how many people stayed home, but I’m still sure that they didn’t win fairly.  

It's not like they haven't done it before. Just ask Jack Smith. From The Independent Jan. 14, 2025.

 

Donald Trump would have been convicted of illegally attempting to overturn the 2020 election result, were it not for his presidential victory last year, special counsel Jack Smith has concluded.

The 45th president “inspired his supporters to commit acts of physical violence” on January 6 2021 when they stormed the US Capitol by knowingly spread a false narrative about election fraud in the 2020 race, Smith determined in the final report on his investigation published in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

In response, Trump hit out at Smith in a 1am Truth Social rant, branding him “deranged” and a “lamebrain” prosecutor.

 

Christ, what a joke. He has the emotional maturity of a spoiled 4 year old.

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[Ohiopirate02]

10 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

I don't know the official answer to this--somewhat snarky?-- question. (It's hard to tell online, so my apologies if I read it wrong.) I'm going to use my father, born in NY in 1912, who did not have a birth certificate, as a reference. I've done some genealogy work on my family and I know that my Dad appears in the 1920 and 1930 census records as an 8 year old and as an 18 year old, respectively, which both show him born in NY. Those are official records, which likely sufficed for him to obtain a driver's license and a voter registration card. I know he had both by the 1930s. 

As to being drafted into the military, I found this graphic on a genealogy site. According to the information I'm uploading here, FDR passed a peacetime Selective Service Act in September, 1940. The first registration occurred in October, 1940. My Dad would have met the age and other requirements for that first registration. I'm assuming he registered at that time as required by law. He was inducted into the Army in February, 1942. (I have my Dad's military records.)

Again, he never had a birth certificate. 

 

Yeah, anyone born before 1913 does not have what we now know as a birth certificate. Both of my grandfathers did register for the draft in 1940 by just filling out the required form at their local government office. Said forms are searchable in Ancestry and they show the basic information needed to register and they also required a signature of a witness.

I know for the WWI draft that non-citizens had to also register. Those records are also easily searchable and I can find my great-grandfathers who had not yet been naturalized in those databases.

16 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I corrected my post. How come Bo Jackson hasn’t made any political moves to the far right? Or would have have to had been poisoned by YKW like Herschel was ages ago in the USFL?

Donald only needs so many tokens and like attracts like. Herschel has 4 kids with 4 different women.

[Notabug]

38 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I can totally see why she won’t be at the inauguration and honestly I don’t think ANY of the former presidents should be there (this is not normal stop normalizing it).  But I was surprised Michelle wasn’t at Carter’s funeral.  I actually thought maybe she was sick or something and couldn’t attend.

Michelle O was supposedly in Hawaii during Carter's funeral and had a scheduled engagement that she really needed to keep.  At least that was the story we got.  I think it is also quite possible that she realized that the seating arrangements were going to put her right next to Trump and decided to stay put.  She's not the politician in the family, as she has made clear on numerous occasions.  I think she's done with playing nice with the Trumps.

[Dimity]

48 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I can totally see why she won’t be at the inauguration and honestly I don’t think ANY of the former presidents should be there (this is not normal stop normalizing it).

I was thinking some more about this comment - with which I wholeheartedly agree BTW - anyway I can understand why Biden and the other adults in the room are trying to proceed as if this was just another election but the problem is that with people like Trump and the MAGA any actions that are taken, as they should be taken, is seen as a bending of the knee to Herr Trump.  Because as you say what is happening in the US right now is not normal.  I know they won't do it, and maybe it's better that way, but I wish Biden and the former presidents, well any Democrat who would normally be at an inauguration said "not a chance" and booked a day at a spa or something instead.

[EtheltoTillie]

7 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I live in a state that passed a voter ID law. It's easy to say, "if you need an ID, then go get one" without understanding what else is going on and how much getting that ID can cost. It's not that simple to just go to the DMV to get your ID when your county's office is underfunded and overworked. Appointments are necessary and those can only be done online which means you must have access to the internet to make one. Those appointments may also end up being close to 3 months out. The DMV in my county has moved 3 times in the last decade and the current location is not accessible by public transit. So now you have to get someone to take you there. They still do take walk-ins which means you may wait an hour for your appointment you scheduled 2 months ago. And I live in an easy county to get around in. Some other counties are more rural and even more difficult to get to the office.

I had also heard about the DMV in Wake County being closed back in October. People showed up for their appointment only to find out the office was closed.

Is this to get non-driver IDs?    Sorry to hear this.  We have nondriver IDs in NYS, and you still get them at DMV.  But it's not so hard here, even though DMV is notorious.  Also they don't ask for voter ID in New York.  People in general do get the IDs just to have ID. 

 

Did anyone watch the Hegseth hearing?  Scary.  Some Dems tried, but it seems to be a done deal.  It's too much for me to repeat much of what I heard.  I can only sputter. 

One line of comment was -- hey why is it disqualifying to have been drunk or cheated on your wife?  Don't tell me you don't know many Senators who do this.

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[Ohiopirate02]

3 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Is this to get non-driver IDs?    Sorry to hear this.  We have nondriver IDs in NYS, and you still get them at DMV.  But it's not so hard here, even though DMV is notorious.  Also they don't ask for voter ID in New York. 

Yes.

[peacheslatour]

24 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I was thinking some more about this comment - with which I wholeheartedly agree BTW - anyway I can understand why Biden and the other adults in the room are trying to proceed as if this was just another election but the problem is that with people like Trump and the MAGA any actions that are taken, as they should be taken, is seen as a bending of the knee to Herr Trump.  Because as you say what is happening in the US right now is not normal.  I know they won't do it, and maybe it's better that way, but I wish Biden and the former presidents, well any Democrat who would normally be at an inauguration said "not a chance" and booked a day at a spa or something instead.

[isalicat]

8 hours ago, Dimity said:

This would be funny if "trial" was spelled correctly...as it is, it is just kinda sad. (Should I take this to the "grammar" thread?)

[Lisa418722]

2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Johnson said the flags would be at full staff on January 20th, then back to half staff January 21 for Jimmy Carter.

Spiteful, petty, deplorable (REDACTED)s

This makes me so mad.  If Kamala Harris had won, the flags would have stayed at half-staff without a second thought.  But the 78-year-old toddler pitched his fit (yes, I am from the South LOL) and they have to give him what he wants to make sure he's happy.  Because if he's not happy, he's going to make sure no one else can be happy (or at peace).  

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[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Is

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

 

Did anyone watch the Hegseth hearing?  Scary.  Some Dems tried, but it seems to be a done deal.  It's too much for me to repeat much of what I heard.  I can only sputter. 

One line of comment was -- hey why is it disqualifying to have been drunk or cheated on your wife?  Don't tell me you don't know many Senators who do this.

It seemed like Kaine was trying to trap him with asking if someone hitting their wife would disqualify them. Won't be surprised if it comes out Hegseth did in fact abuse one or both of his exwives.

 

[annzeepark914]

16 minutes ago, Lisa418722 said:

This makes me so mad.  If Kamala Harris had won, the flags would have stayed at half-staff without a second thought.  But the 78-year-old toddler pitched his fit (yes, I am from the South LOL) and they have to give him what he wants to make sure he's happy.  Because if he's not happy, he's going to make sure no one else can be happy (or at peace).  

He pitched a mother-of-all "hissy fits" and the GOP, again, caved (I learned this wonderful expression while working in Raleigh 😁). DJT loves to whine in his sing-songy way. If only this obnoxious behavior had been handled firmly & properly by his parents (instead of shipping him up the river to a military boarding school). 

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, isalicat said:

This would be funny if "trial" was spelled correctly...as it is, it is just kinda sad. (Should I take this to the "grammar" thread?)

[Lantern7]

Still no word about protests for next Monday? Can't we have a demonstration from people who have a minimum of two brain cells to rub together and an ounce of pride to protect? Given all the shit that's been said between Election Day and now, there has to be a show of force against the forces of evil. The people need to show they're not going to take it anymore, especially since the Democrats aren't quick to even stick out a foot to trip Republicans.

4 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

FOTUS: Felon of the United States

Given that "FOTUS" resembles a certain word, it's no wonder the GOP is always hellbent on protecting him.

[bluegirl147]

Trump takes over at 1201.  With his presidential immunity he could very well order protesters to be shot.

[Annber03]

10 hours ago, Eri said:

I'm a bit confused about this—Trump is also a celebrity and was sharing his opinions and "political advice" long before he became president in 2016. Is it only okay when billionaires or high profile executives do it? 

This. To say nothing of all the non-famous peopel who feel the need to spew their half-brained thoughts about politics on social media. Your average citizen often isn't an expert on a lot of what they're going on about when it comes to politics, either, but that doesn't stop them from sharing their opinions for the world to hear. Why are celebrities held to a different standard?*

*To say nothing of how I only ever seem to hear the, "Shut up and sing/act/play sports" response when it's a liberal celebrity sharing their political views. When conservative celebrities speak up on politics, then you have a bunch of people rushing out of the woodwork to say they're entitled to their opinions. 

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In regard to leaving decisions up to the states, it is another deliberate approach, as there is an increase in lawsuits being brought through judicial circuit courts (via Trump appointed judges) that may ultimately lead to final decisions by SCOTUS. It will be their green light to continue to pass or challenge very unpopular legislation. Some Republicans may want to waffle about the state of personhood, but they're still unpopular in a lot of states (even Republican-led ones), yet they keep pursuing it even after ballot measures passed saying "No" - why?

This.

Also, there's the fact that basic civil and human rights hould never be a state by state issue in the first place. Even if the GOP were content to simply "leave abortion up to the states", the fact that's even a thing in the first place is a bad idea, because for those who aren't lucky enough to live in states that are open to letting women have the right to have abortions....they're kind of shit out of luck. People shouldn't have to travel to a whole other state just to get an important medical procedure. 

9 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Until it isn't.

Yep.  As noted, we already saw that the SC went back on its assurances that Roe was settled law. And then there was the freakout people had over the IVF ruling in Alabama. Remember that? That's the sort of thing the GOP wants. Give them an inch, and they will take a mile. Or try to, at least. And I'd like to avoid giving them the opportunity to push through their backwards agenda if I can help it. 

10 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I live in a state that passed a voter ID law. It's easy to say, "if you need an ID, then go get one" without understanding what else is going on and how much getting that ID can cost. It's not that simple to just go to the DMV to get your ID when your county's office is underfunded and overworked. Appointments are necessary and those can only be done online which means you must have access to the internet to make one. Those appointments may also end up being close to 3 months out. The DMV in my county has moved 3 times in the last decade and the current location is not accessible by public transit. So now you have to get someone to take you there. They still do take walk-ins which means you may wait an hour for your appointment you scheduled 2 months ago. And I live in an easy county to get around in. Some other counties are more rural and even more difficult to get to the office.

I had also heard about the DMV in Wake County being closed back in October. People showed up for their appointment only to find out the office was closed.

Yep. 

Incidentally, this is another reason mail-in voting is so popular, and was a big reason Trump went after it in 2020*. You know, at the height of the pandemic, when it was far wiser for people to stay home and vote by mail if they could help it. 

But that didn't matter to Trump, because he knew mail-in voting might benefit the Democrats in some way in the election, and we sure couldn't have that now, could we? Remember the whole thing with DeJoy being put in charge of the postal service, as a way to actively try and weaken the postal service's ability to do its job? 

7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

In Texas they allow a handgun permit be used but not a college issued ID.  Most likely because they think gun owners will be Republicans and college students will be Democrats.  Just another way they play games with voting.

Yep. I've heard about this, too. 

Yeah, make no mistake, people, the GOP knows exactly what they're doing by passing these laws. Any policies the  GOP makes nowadays are made for no other reason than to go after women and minorities. That's it. The cruelty is the point with them. They are not making these laws to make things easier/quicker/safer/better for people. They are designed to make anyone who isn't straight, white, Christian, rich, and/or male suffer. 

*Ironically, Trump's efforts to go after the postal service and mail-in voting were a large part of why he lost in 2020. Because guess who benefits from mail-in voting? Older people and rural people - aka, a good portion of the GOP's voter base. Limiting your voting base's ability to vote, and doing nothing to protect their health during a dealdy pandemic in which many of those who died were older people kind of, y'know, makes it harder for you to get enough votes to win an election.

But of course Trump won't understand that, because he's a moron. 

As for my state, we have to show some form of ID when we vote, too. I've been able to use my state one wiht no issues thus far. But I also know that the GOP here has been trying to pass strict voter ID laws that they claim will fight voter fraud - aka, the thing that happens so infrequently as to not be an issue of major concern.

(To say nothing of how the handful of instances of voter fraud that were found in 2020 came from Trump supporters, but...yeah.) 

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[EtheltoTillie]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

It seemed like Kaine was trying to trap him with asking if someone hitting their wife would disqualify them. Won't be surprised if it comes out Hegseth did in fact abuse one or both of his exwives.

 

In fact, I thought that was implied by those emails from his own mother. 
There are all these Senators supporting him and praising him.  There is a lot of money spent by billionaire supporters to scare the doubters into voting for him.  I saw an article about that this morning. 

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, EtheltoTillie said:

In fact, I thought that was implied by those emails from his own mother. 
There are all these Senators supporting him and praising him.  There is a lot of money spent by billionaire supporters to scare the doubters into voting for him.  I saw an article about that this morning. 

Which begs the question why do they have such a hard on for him being Secretary of Defense?  Do they want us to end up in a war and lose? They are billionaires who the fuck knows what they are up to. 

[Lantern7]

55 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Trump takes over at 1201.  With his presidential immunity he could very well order protesters to be shot.

Sadly, "If we rush him together at the same time, he can't get all of us shot" seems to be the logical approach should there be an insurrection, real or figurative. Or counter-insurrection. Whatever.

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[EtheltoTillie]

8 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Which begs the question why do they have such a hard on for him being Secretary of Defense?  Do they want us to end up in a war and lose? They are billionaires who the fuck knows what they are up to. 

I believe Trump had a hard-on for him based on his anti women in combat talk on Fox News.  But what else, I can't be sure.  Today, Hegseth would not answer questions on whether he would follow orders that were in violation of the constitution, like shoot them in the legs. 

[Spartan Girl]

1 hour ago, Lantern7 said:

Still no word about protests for next Monday? Can't we have a demonstration from people who have a minimum of two brain cells to rub together and an ounce of pride to protect? Given all the shit that's been said between Election Day and now, there has to be a show of force against the forces of evil. The people need to show they're not going to take it anymore, especially since the Democrats aren't quick to even stick out a foot to trip Republicans.

The time to do that was on Election Day. Plenty of the voters that did that are feeling angry and betrayed by the deadweights that sat out, despite them begging them not to do that and warning them about the stakes. They’re ready to let the people would rather scream instead of vote do it by themselves. And frankly, I don’t blame them one bit. 

[tres bien]

The senate republicans are so disappointing. They’re afraid of Trump. They are cowards. Afraid of their own shadows.

It’s frightening that they’re willing to do whatever Trump tells them to do and put  America and Americans at risk with all these unqualified unfit cabinet nominees. 
It’s scary but I hope it all comes back to bite them on their asses

 

 

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[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, tres bien said:

 

I hope it all comes back to bite them on their asses

 

 

It will but unfortunately it will bite us too.

I honesty believe at some point and I hope it's in my lifetime Republicans are going to get their comeuppance and it's going to be so richly deserved.  Trump will most likely be dead but the young ones like Josh Hawley will still be around.  And if I'm wrong then climate change will have finally got us and Musk and the rest of the billionaires will be in a space capsule looking for a new planet.