Chit-Chat: The Feels

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, PRgal said:

  I don't get why he was at a party sounded like it was mostly younger people

One reason, he likes underage girls. Another reason, adults see him for who he really is. 

Remember Madison Cawthorn?  The one term Congressman from NC.  He lost reelection it is widely thought because he ran his mouth about sex parties involving his fellow members of Congress and those members wanted him punished for telling tales out of school Congress. Too many people know about Gaetz.  And at some point we will all know about Gaetz.

The reason Trump nominated Gaetz was because he thought the sex crime allegations didn't mean anything. That Gaetz could just talk his way out of it. Because that is what Trump does.  I'm curious to see if his Defense pick who also has sex crimes allegations against him will also face the same resistance for confirmation.

 

6 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

It's creepy as hell. I partied hard as a teen and if my friends and I had some some old guy like that at one of our partys would have laughed at him. "Eew! What a weirdo!"

I did party with older guys (in their 20s) when I was a teen and as I got older I realized how not only weird, but illegal, it was. 

4 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

He had already resigned his Congressional seat, so he is out of everything now. 

Is Florida having a special election or does DeSantis get to appoint someone?  

Edited November 21 by bluegirl147

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

He had already resigned his Congressional seat, so he is out of everything now. 

This is Trump World now though where rules don't apply.  I am betting he gets his seat back before dinner tonight. (I am hoping not but...)

[Ohiopirate02]

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This is Trump World now though where rules don't apply.  I am betting he gets his seat back before dinner tonight. (I am hoping not but...)

He's so hated that Mike Johnson won't lift a finger to help him. 

[fastiller]

27 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

He's so hated that Mike Johnson won't lift a finger to help him. 

Seriously.  I wonder who's more despised: Gaetz or Cruz.  

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Seriously.  I wonder who's more despised: Gaetz or Cruz.  

As far as we know Cruz hasn't been accused of any sex crimes.  But in this group of politicians maybe that works against him.

[chitowngirl]

From Huff Post - “The Florida congressman resigned his seat in Congress last week on the heels of his nomination. He had just been elected to another two-year term representing Florida’s western panhandle. But Gaetz only resigned from the current Congress, not the one he was just elected to, meaning he could return to office in January. Gaetz hasn’t made any announcement yet about his future plans.”

Edited November 21 by chitowngirl

[Ohiopirate02]

Just now, chitowngirl said:

From Huff Post, “The Florida congressman resigned his seat in Congress last week on the heels of his nomination. He had just been elected to another two-year term representing Florida’s western panhandle. But Gaetz only resigned from the current Congress, not the one he was just elected to, meaning he could return to office in January. Gaetz hasn’t made any announcement yet about his future plans.”

[Palimelon]

To paraphrase Nene Leakes, this bish done lost it.

Elon Musk to ‘summon British MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’.

"Elon Musk has said UK MPs “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens” in a fresh escalation of tensions between the world’s richest man and Labour."

[Enigma X]

2 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

To paraphrase Nene Leakes, this bish done lost it.

Elon Musk to ‘summon British MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’.

"Elon Musk has said UK MPs “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens” in a fresh escalation of tensions between the world’s richest man and Labour."

When you need a "WTF" emoji!

[Dimity]

16 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Seriously.  I wonder who's more despised: Gaetz or Cruz.

 Now, now, it's not a contest, we can despise them all equally.

[bluegirl147]

8 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

To paraphrase Nene Leakes, this bish done lost it.

Elon Musk to ‘summon British MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’.

"Elon Musk has said UK MPs “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens” in a fresh escalation of tensions between the world’s richest man and Labour."

Me thinks he is a pulling a Jack on the Titanic and thinks he is king of the world.

17 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

From Huff Post - “The Florida congressman resigned his seat in Congress last week on the heels of his nomination. He had just been elected to another two-year term representing Florida’s western panhandle. But Gaetz only resigned from the current Congress, not the one he was just elected to, meaning he could return to office in January. Gaetz hasn’t made any announcement yet about his future plans.”

Also from CNN:

Just minutes after Gaetz announced that he is withdrawing from consideration to be Trump’s attorney general, CNN published a scoop regarding a reported second sexual encounter the Florida Republican had with a 17-year-old girl at a party.

It was previously known that a woman testified to the House Ethics Committee that Gaetz had sex with her when she was a minor. Sources familiar with the woman’s testimony told CNN that the woman spoke of two sexual encounters she had with the then-congressman at one party in 2017.

According to CNN’s Paula Reid, the network reached out to Gaetz for comment on the story, telling Trump’s pick for attorney general that the scoop would publish at 12:30 p.m. ET. Gaetz posted his statement announcing his withdrawal from consideration six minutes earlier. He has previously denied having sex with a minor.

[Dimity]

18 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

From Huff Post - “The Florida congressman resigned his seat in Congress last week on the heels of his nomination. He had just been elected to another two-year term representing Florida’s western panhandle. But Gaetz only resigned from the current Congress, not the one he was just elected to, meaning he could return to office in January. Gaetz hasn’t made any announcement yet about his future plans.”

This is a perfect encapsulation of the last 4 years.  Just when you think one of these people might finally get a comeuppance they just don't. 

[peacheslatour]

Some of Gaetz's potential victims.

[graybrown bird]

2 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Some of Gaetz's potential victims.

Barf.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, graybrown bird said:

Barf.

I like the girls who are flipping him off. The kids are alright.

[Dimity]

14 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Me thinks he is a pulling a Jack on the Titanic and thinks he is king of the world.

He is going to summon politicians from another country?  Good god, and I thought Trump had a massive ego and an inflated sense of what he can actually do.

This is going to get interesting.  According to some Musk thinks he actually is the VP.  But even if that were actually the case he's not the kind of person who would be content to be second in command.  Gonna be some fireworks there before long I think.

Edited November 21 by Dimity

[DXD526]

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I had excellent meetings with Senators yesterday. I appreciate their thoughtful feedback

I bet he got some 'excellent feedback.' Probably mostly from other GOPers saying, 'Don't make us vote against you.'

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

YES!!!!! Smell ya later, Quagmire!

Come on, he DOES look like Quagmire 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Giggety giggety gone!

[fastiller]

From the Guardian article linked above:

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The committee’s chair, Chi Onwurah, a Labour MP...,

One guess as to ethnicity & gender.  (Not eligible to answer if you've already read the piece/)

 

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Remember Madison Cawthorn?  The one term Congressman from NC.  He lost reelection it is widely thought because he ran his mouth about sex parties involving his fellow members of Congress and those members wanted him punished for telling tales out of school Congress. Too many people know about Gaetz.  And at some point we will all know about Gaetz.

I think he even got primaried.  Crazy that he was so toxic that even the Republicans primaried him.  Once upon a time a line existed.  Now the bar is so low we can't even send James Cameron down to raise it.

Still I'm not buying anything into this Matt Gaetz is gone.  I feel like he's the sacrifice.  The "see we won't put this douche up so confirm everyone else please!" Person.

Edited November 21 by kittykat

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, kittykat said:

Now the bar is so low we can't even send James Cameron down to raise it.

The bar is so low for the Republican party it's in hell.

[bluegirl147]

Just now, Dimity said:

The bar is so low for the Republican party it's in hell.

It's us who are in hell having to live with their policies.

[andromeda331]

Finally some good news. Well one piece of good news. Gaetz is out at being Attorney General.

Musk made me laugh by trying to "summon" UK MPs. I'm sure their laughing too. 

[Calvada]

17 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

From Huff Post - “The Florida congressman resigned his seat in Congress last week on the heels of his nomination. He had just been elected to another two-year term representing Florida’s western panhandle. But Gaetz only resigned from the current Congress, not the one he was just elected to, meaning he could return to office in January. Gaetz hasn’t made any announcement yet about his future plans.”

If he does return to Congress, re-open the ethics investigation. I think Gaetz may be worried about state-level criminal charges.  The Manhattan DA has a lot of free time with the Trump case on hold, right?  

One predator down, way too many to go.  

[mostlylurking]

5 hours ago, Anela said:

They voted for all of that.  And some are now concerned, after seeing who he’s promising jobs to. 

The thing about Trump though is that he has been the same person since day one.  He was this person when he was on the apprentice, he was still this person when he came down that escalator, and he is still this person today.  You can say a lot of things about him, but he shows us who he is, he says he’s going to do stupid shit and then guess what he does it.  So why would people think he would do anything different now?  He hasn’t changed his persona one iota in 9 years and there’s no indication he will change any time soon.  Why would people be concerned now?

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Why would people be concerned now?

Exactly.  With Trump you never had to read between the lines.  He's a vicious, spiteful egomaniac and he's been telling everyone that from day one. 

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

He's a vicious, spiteful egomaniac and he's been telling everyone that from day one. 

And not only being allowed to be that way but getting rewarded for it. His whole life he has been rewarded. It simply boggles the mind.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

The thing about Trump though is that he has been the same person since day one.  He was this person when he was on the apprentice, he was still this person when he came down that escalator, and he is still this person today.  You can say a lot of things about him, but he shows us who he is, he says he’s going to do stupid shit and then guess what he does it.  So why would people think he would do anything different now?  He hasn’t changed his persona one iota in 9 years and there’s no indication he will change any time soon.  Why would people be concerned now?

[fastiller]

10 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

The thing about Trump though is that he has been the same person since day one.  He was this person when he was on the apprentice, he was still this person when he came down that escalator, and he is still this person today.  You can say a lot of things about him, but he shows us who he is, he says he’s going to do stupid shit and then guess what he does it.  So why would people think he would do anything different now?  He hasn’t changed his persona one iota in 9 years and there’s no indication he will change any time soon.  Why would people be concerned now?

He's been this person since his days of not paying suppliers to his many construction jobs in NYC.

He's been this person since his days of running casinos into the ground.  (Casinos!!! Where the house always wins!)

He's been this person since his (& his family company's) days of working under a consent decree from 1973 for not renting to Black people.

There's a reason that we in NYC are happy to see the back of him.  

 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, fastiller said:

He's been this person since his days of running casinos into the ground.  (Casinos!!! Where the house always wins!)

 

[fastiller]

24 minutes ago, fastiller said:

There's a reason that we in NYC are happy to see the back of him.  

 

Quoting myself to correct myself:

There's a reason that we in NYC are happy to wish we could see the back of him.  

[tearknee]

Under the 22nd Amendment -- If Trump dies or resigns before 1/20/27 -- JDV gets to have most of his term plus two full terms of his own -- after that it's a Gerry Ford scenario -- only able to have one elected term of his own.

[peacheslatour]

4 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Under the 22nd Amendment -- If Trump dies or resigns before 1/20/27 -- JDV gets to have most of his term plus two full terms of his own -- after that it's a Gerry Ford scenario -- only able to have one elected term of his own.

The main benefit of that would be that JD Vance is a moron with the charisma of a used wad of toilet paper. People in congress don't like him any better than they like Cruz or Gaetz. He won't have the cult behind him and he'd be easier to beat. But and this is a big but, he has Peter Thiel propping him up. Plus, I don't think Musk will be in his corner. But I guess we'll see. I don't see Stinky doing the whole four years, in fact I'll be surprised if he lives another year.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Still out of it. But I’m headed to see President Clinton at Constitution Hall.

I had bought the tickets back in late August/Early September when I was more…hopeful.

Still, I missed opportunities to see him when he was the sitting President and Biden, and Obama. So looking forward to seeing him finally. Maybe I’ll feel better after. If not, there’s gonna be an open bar, so Johnnie Walker is who I’ll ask for.

[ebk57]

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Is Florida having a special election or does DeSantis get to appoint someone?  

His House seat will need a special election.  However...  a friend has posited that DeSantis will appoint Gaetz to Rubio's Senate seat if he (Rubio) is confirmed as SoS.  Which would suck. 

Gaetz said he won't take his House seat in January and we all know we can trust him 🙄.   Also, if he does, the whole ethics thing is back on the table.

 

2 hours ago, fastiller said:

Seriously.  I wonder who's more despised: Gaetz or Cruz.  

 Yes

[peacheslatour]

16 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

His House seat will need a special election.  However...  a friend has posited that DeSantis will appoint Gaetz to Rubio's Senate seat if he (Rubio) is confirmed as SoS.  Which would suck. 

Gaetz said he won't take his House seat in January and we all know we can trust him 🙄.   Also, if he does, the whole ethics thing is back on the table.

 

 Yes

It's so bad because Gaetz is from the House and Rubio the Senate. I guess in the new Regime, it doesn't matter.

[Lantern7]

Gaetz's setback is small potatoes, even if he winds up truly out of a job. I need proof that empathy will NOT be a handicap in the world to come.

While I'm thinking about it . . . how did MAGA get a hate-in at Madison Square Garden? Who runs MSG? NYC is supposed to be a progressive city, with everyone knowing that Trump was an asshole before 2015, even before The Apprentice. Shit, we knew Giuliani was an asshole before 9/11.

ETA: I tell people I've never been to Florida. I have been to Disney World for a weekend, but I don't think that counts.

Edited November 21 by Lantern7

[Bastet]

6 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I could see that. There was a study many years ago that found Fox News watchers less knowledgeable than people who watched no news at all.

Yeah, that gets shown time and again.  People who don't watch news will either answer "I don't know" or will choose the most logical answer, which happens to be right.  Fox News viewers will pick the wrong answer because that's what their propaganda network told them, and that's their sole source of news.  So people who don't pay attention to the news consistently score higher than Fox News viewers.

[ebk57]

15 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

While I'm thinking about it . . . how did MAGA get a hate-in at Madison Square Garden? Who runs MSG?

I was going to say "your boy, James Dolan" because for some reason I thought he owned the Mets at some point.  But it looks like he only owns the Knicks and Rangers.  And MSG.

[partofme]

46 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Still out of it. But I’m headed to see President Clinton at Constitution Hall.

Hope you have a great time!   Aging myself here, he’s the first president that I ever got to vote for.  He was always a great speaker.  

[Lantern7]

7 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

I was going to say "your boy, James Dolan" because for some reason I thought he owned the Mets at some point.  But it looks like he only owns the Knicks and Rangers.  And MSG.

I figured as much. Most New Yorkers think he sucks as well.

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Lantern7 said:

I figured as much. Most New Yorkers think he sucks as well.

To know him is to hate him. His cult reminds me of the old song.

"How could you believe me when I told you that I loved you when you know I've been a liar all my life?"

[GHScorpiosRule]

51 minutes ago, partofme said:

Hope you have a great time!   Aging myself here, he’s the first president that I ever got to vote for.  He was always a great speaker.  

He really is! I was joking with other people I met while we were waiting in line for the doors to open, that we should ALL get to meet him as a consolation prize!😄 Well, whaddya know? I’m feeling better! It was cold as fuck, so I’ve already had one shot of libation. No Johnnie, but what they do have is just as good.

Now I’m wishing I’d gotten the orchestra seat! It’s very deceptive and deceiving when buying the tickets online. Plus, I haven’t been here since my sister’s high school graduation, which was in 1992! 

While we’re not allowed to take video, we can take pictures.

Theres a nice montage of him over the years.

While we wait.

And the music they’re playing is AWESOME! ELO! And vintage Motown!

Edited November 21 by GHScorpiosRule
Oops! Hillary spoke at sister’s college graduation in ‘96.

[bluegirl147]

I just picked up president Clinton's latest book from the library today.

1 hour ago, partofme said:

Hope you have a great time!   Aging myself here, he’s the first president that I ever got to vote for.  He was always a great speaker.  

He was also my first presidential vote.

1 hour ago, Bastet said:

Yeah, that gets shown time and again.  People who don't watch news will either answer "I don't know" or will choose the most logical answer, which happens to be right.  Fox News viewers will pick the wrong answer because that's what their propaganda network told them, and that's their sole source of news.  So people who don't pay attention to the news consistently score higher than Fox News viewers.

So what you are saying is Fox news makes people stupid.   Sounds right.

[Annber03]

6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

From CNBC, November 21 2024

 

Matt Gaetz said Thursday he is withdrawing his name from consideration as President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for U.S. attorney general.

“I had excellent meetings with Senators yesterday. I appreciate their thoughtful feedback - and the incredible support of so many,” Gaetz said in a statement posted on his X account.

“While the momentum was strong, it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump/Vance Transition,” said the former Republican congressman from Florida.

“There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle, thus I’ll be withdrawing my name from consideration to serve as Attorney General,” he said.

Translation: I am beyond fucked if I even try to go for this job and so I'm getting out while the getting's good. 

But yeah, whatever the reason, certainly not complaining about this news. Now can all of Trump's other batshit ridiculous nomninees follow suit? 

6 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

YES!!!!! Smell ya later, Quagmire!

Come on, he DOES look like Quagmire 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Hey, now, that's an insult. 

To Quagmire. 

[Enigma X]

A lot of people about to learn all the government programs and protections they have been benefiting from and miss them. 

[Dimity]

So all those military folk who voted for Trump - sure hope you never need VA health care.

[partofme]

43 minutes ago, Enigma X said:

A lot of people about to learn all the government programs and protections they have been benefiting from and miss them. 

It was well known before the election that Trump planned on damaging the economy, so I can’t feel bad for anyone who voted for him, it just really sucks for the rest of us.  

[PRgal]

6 minutes ago, partofme said:

It was well known before the election that Trump planned on damaging the economy, so I can’t feel bad for anyone who voted for him, it just really sucks for the rest of us.  

People who thought that Trump would REALLY lower grocery bills are nuts.  I think grocery bills will only go up.  

[Annber03]

44 minutes ago, Dimity said:

So all those military folk who voted for Trump - sure hope you never need VA health care.

I can already hear the rants from patients who come into our business office needing help with their VA healthcare. Whooooole lot of my coworkers are about to have to deal with a lot of very unhappy patients next year. 

6 hours ago, Palimelon said:

To paraphrase Nene Leakes, this bish done lost it.

Elon Musk to ‘summon British MPs to US to explain threats to American citizens’.

"Elon Musk has said UK MPs “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens” in a fresh escalation of tensions between the world’s richest man and Labour."

Why the fuck is Musk involving himself in any of this shit? Literally nobody asked for your opinion, Elon, sit down and shut up. 

5 hours ago, kittykat said:

I think he even got primaried.  Crazy that he was so toxic that even the Republicans primaried him.  Once upon a time a line existed.  Now the bar is so low we can't even send James Cameron down to raise it.

Seriously, remember the days when shit like this actually ended political careers and politicians had to resign in disgrace and shame? Can we go back to that? 

4 hours ago, fastiller said:

There's a reason that we in NYC are happy to see the back of him.  

When the Decades channel was a thing, they used to show "Laugh-In" reruns on there, and there were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many jokes about Ronald Reagan and his political career back then. 

My mom told me about how people in California could not STAND Reagan, similar to the way people in NYC could not stand Trump. I know they're part of tha supposed pesky "liberal elite" that the right alwyas likes to complain about, lmost like the rest of us should've, y'know, listened to them and their complaints about those two men. 

Also, regarding people recalling their first presidential votes, mine was in 2004, for Kerry. Three elections I voted in where the person I voted for won (Obama in both '08 and '12, and Biden in '20), and three elections where they didn't (Bush in '04, and of course, Trump in 2016 and this year). So...three and three? 

Edited November 22 by Annber03