Chit-Chat: The Feels

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, nokat said:

They own the farms now. 

They want all the land. People will be reduced to tenant farmers and city dwellers will simply be slaves.

[bluegirl147]

29 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

They want all the land. People will be reduced to tenant farmers and city dwellers will simply be slaves.

It's what private equity did to Red Lobster. Bought them and the land they were on and then charged them exorbitant rents.

[Ohiopirate02]

33 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

They want all the land. People will be reduced to tenant farmers and city dwellers will simply be slaves.

 

2 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's what private equity did to Red Lobster. Bought them and the land they were on and then charged them exorbitant rents.

And those who believe they own their property outright are not safe. From taxes to liens to eminent domain, if a corporation wants your land they have multiple ways to go about it. It just depends on the state and municipality.

[fastiller]

40 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

They want all the land. People will be reduced to tenant farmers and city dwellers will simply be slaves.

Water too.  Well, water rights.  (Land without water is just dirt.)

[peacheslatour]

27 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Water too.  Well, water rights.  (Land without water is just dirt.)

That's one of the things that cracked me up during the horrible fires California had last year. "They're right next to the Pacific Ocean. Why don't they just pipe in all that water?" Like they have no idea what salt water would do to the land. It's not like CA. is a big agricultural state, right?

[bluegirl147]

The movie the Big Short which is about the 2008 economic crash explains how it happened.  It's a great movie and at the end it said one of the guys who saw that crash coming was turning his attention to something else.  Water. It's chilling to think about because we can't live without water and I have no doubt people like Musk and Trump and all the other vultures would love to control people's access to water.

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That's one of the things that cracked me up during the horrible fires California had last year. "They're right next to the Pacific Ocean. Why don't they just pipe in all that water?" Like they have no idea what salt water would do to the land. It's not like CA. is a big agricultural state, right?

Those same people think solar power doesn't work when it's cloudy.

[peacheslatour]

Sweet Lord.

Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner encouraged the White House to tell Americans worried about the economy and their 401(k)s they should view the situation like a “war effort.”

The panel on Tuesday’s episode of Outnumbered was discussing President Donald Trump’s tariffs that are set to roll out on Wednesday. Trump has dubbed the day “Liberation Day,” with reciprocal tariffs being imposed on nearly every country that trades with the U.S., but the stock market has reacted negatively and numerous economists are forecasting a bumpy road ahead, even a looming recession.

[Dimity]

OK I have to say - with emojis????  I mean good god.  With emojis????????????

Winston:  So Frank 🧐 just dropping a note to let you know D Day is a go 😎.

Roosevelt:  Awesome sauce, Winnie ❤️.

[Ohiopirate02]

3 minutes ago, Dimity said:

OK I have to say - with emojis????  I mean good god.  With emojis????????????

yep. Someone used this string in the group chat (I know they used Signal, but group chat just works better and is the exact same thing)
👊(american flag) 🔥

[nokat]

1 hour ago, fastiller said:

Water too.  Well, water rights.  (Land without water is just dirt.)

Have we mentioned natural gas yet?

[LexieLily]

Twenty hours and counting and Cory Booker is still talking on the Senate Floor 🧨

Edited with facts: Booker's speech is already the fifth-longest in recorded Senate history. If he speaks until 7:19 p.m. EDT, he will break the record for the longest known floor speech: Then-Sen. Strom Thurmond's 1957 speech against the Civil Rights Act went 24 hours and 18 minutes.

Edited Tuesday at 09:41 PM by LexieLily

[ebk57]

48 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

yep. Someone used this string in the group chat (I know they used Signal, but group chat just works better and is the exact same thing)
👊(american flag) 🔥

I believe John Oliver said it was "fist, american flag, tesla".

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Twenty hours and counting and Cory Booker is still talking on the Senate Floor 🧨

Edited with facts: Booker's speech is already the fifth-longest in recorded Senate history. If he speaks until 7:19 p.m. EDT, he will break the record for the longest known floor speech: Then-Sen. Strom Thurmond's 1957 speech against the Civil Rights Act went 24 hours and 18 minutes.

Thurmond. What a piece of crap. Surely, Cory can do better than that racist windbag. Go Cory!

[ebk57]

But HIS emails... 

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-waltz-used-personal-gmail-government-communications-report-2053863

 

It never ends.

[kittykat]

Was just coming to praise Cory Booker.  Stop, look and listen Democrats.  Will it do much good?  Who knows but sometimes the gesture is all that matters.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Sweet Lord.

Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner encouraged the White House to tell Americans worried about the economy and their 401(k)s they should view the situation like a “war effort.”

The panel on Tuesday’s episode of Outnumbered was discussing President Donald Trump’s tariffs that are set to roll out on Wednesday. Trump has dubbed the day “Liberation Day,” with reciprocal tariffs being imposed on nearly every country that trades with the U.S., but the stock market has reacted negatively and numerous economists are forecasting a bumpy road ahead, even a looming recession.

War effort?  Does he think people will actually be prepared to live under faux war time conditions?  Good god, people couldn't handle the relatively minor inconveniences that came with the pandemic. 

First time in human history when people were told they could save lives (including their own) by staying home and watching TV and half the country (guess which half?)  lost their freaking minds.  These are the people who, if they'd been in London during the Blitz, would have said "No one is telling ME to close my curtains!"

So yeah, good luck Trump.  This may be the one time your MAGA minions will tell you to kick rocks.

Edited Tuesday at 10:21 PM by Dimity

[Ceindreadh]

54 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

I believe John Oliver said it was "fist, american flag, tesla".

I think it was Colin Jost on SNL's Weekend Update.

[suomi]

from the article:

How Trump can deport all those migrant predators at the National Zoo

The Thursday order gives Vice President JD Vance the authority to “remove improper ideology” from the “Smithsonian Institution and its museums, education and research centers, and the National Zoo.” (Emphasis added.) These subversive institutions will be converted into symbols of “American greatness” charged with “instilling pride in the hearts of all Americans.”

The zoo boasts prominently on its website that it has “more than 2,200 animals representing almost 400 different species.” Could there be a more brazen embrace of DEI? Searching the zoo’s website this weekend, I found 1,110 results for “diversity” — most of them treating it as a good thing, which it most certainly is not! “Study of Diversity Among Species Helps National Zoo Scientists Breed Endangered Species,” one page said. “Genetic diversity plays a major role in the overall health of a species,” another announced.

Worse, the zoo is a 163-acre Sanctuary City operating in the heart of the nation’s capital. Not one of its 2,200 “residents” (as the zoo refers to them) is a citizen, a green card holder or even in possession of a student visa. Many of these are cold-blooded killers — total animals, in fact. The zoo provides refuge to the “green anaconda” (a migrant from south of the border, ‘natch), which the zoo admits is an “opportunistic apex predator.” In addition, “some of the top predators on the planet live at the Great Cats exhibit,” migrants from Africa and Asia, predictably.

These superpredators are coddled at taxpayer expense. An entire department exists to provide them all with “the best clinical veterinary care” — a form of socialized medicine. The “Africa Trail” — packed with illegal migrants from “s---hole countries” — is being renovated with “roomier indoor animal stalls” and “radiant heated floors.” The zoo doesn’t even hide that it is “enriching” these migrants instead of taking care of America First. The zoo openly admits it tries to “give animals more choices,” and these freeloaders even get “training sessions."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/30/national-zoo-trump-executive-order/

[Annber03]

16 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I love the fact that people openly protest everything he does with impunity and then call him a fascist. Go to Moscow and stand outside the Kremlin to protest Putin and see what happens. This is why I can't take the word fascist seriously anymore. It's just another synonym for "what I call people who I don't like".

He and his party are actively stripping various groups of people in this country of basic civil and human rights on a daily basis. He's alienated all of our allies and is cozying up to autoritarian leaders around the world. His supporters involve fucking neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He's actively going after and threatening media outlets and inddividuals that dare to criticize him and be "meeeeeeeean" to him. 

But sure. Totally not fascist. Nope. 

[peacheslatour]

Cory has passed 22 hours now. Every Democratic legislator should be lined up behind him, for every vote, every confirmation and every bill.

[Spartan Girl]

14 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Cory has passed 22 hours now. Every Democratic legislator should be lined up behind him, for every vote, every confirmation and every bill.

You know what he needs? The perfect cheer!

[Dimity]

54 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

He and his party are actively stripping various groups of people in this country of basic civil and human rights on a daily basis. He's alienated all of our allies and is cozying up to autoritarian leaders around the world. His supporters involve fucking neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He's actively going after and threatening media outlets and inddividuals that dare to criticize him and be "meeeeeeeean" to him. 

But sure. Totally not fascist. Nope. 

He had an innocent man deported To El Salvador and says they can't get him back.  His only regret I am sure is that he didn't send the man's wife and kids as well. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:03 AM by Dimity

[ProudMary]

👏👏👏

U.S. Senate Press Gallery

https://www.dailypress.senate.gov/

8:04 p.m. Senator Booker yielded the floor.

He spoke for 25 hours and 5 minutes, the longest speech on the Senate floor in recorded history. Senator Booker had held the floor since 7:00 p.m. Monday evening.

[kittykat]

Missed opportunity.  Cory should have stopped for five seconds indicating he was done then went APRIL FOOLS and kept going.  That said well done he's earned his rest.

[peacheslatour]

I will say it again. Every Democrat in the Senate should be lined up behind him. If there was ever a time to be the party of No, this is it.

 

[tres bien]

Money well spent Elon Musk

🤣🤣🤣

[Spartan Girl]

10 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Money well spent Elon Musk

🤣🤣🤣

 

[Makai]

27 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Money well spent Elon Musk

🤣🤣🤣

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

 

The Kitty Foreman laugh lives rent free in my head.

I think we can all agree that after so much darkness this is a win we all needed.

[Blergh]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

He had an innocent man deported To El Salvador and says they can't get him back.  His only regret I am sure is that he didn't send the man's wife and kids as well. 

 

And to add to the horrificness of the whole thing, Miss Noem SHOWED that place that this poor soul got sent to (along with others which none were given due the due process of a hearing to determine whether the prosecution's evidence warranted . ..that).  and seemed to be reveling in its . . ghastliness. What have some folks COME to?!!

 

[Annber03]

17 minutes ago, kittykat said:

The Kitty Foreman laugh lives rent free in my head.

I think we can all agree that after so much darkness this is a win we all needed.

I was just gonna say, yeah, nice to have ONE piece of good news at long last. Fuck off, Musk. 

[Eri]

13 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

I was just gonna say, yeah, nice to have ONE piece of good news at long last. Fuck off, Musk. 

Honestly, even his own AI hates him. He needs to be arrested.

Edited Wednesday at 03:52 AM by Eri

[Calvada]

What a huge relief.  The Crawford win is just what this WIsconsinite needed.  Almost every major race in Wisconsin for several election cycles has been razor thin, so this was a shellacking of Schimel.  Thanks Elon!  Schimel made a huge mistake allying himself with Elon, although he tried to step back a bit from that late last week.  But just like 98% of Republicans, they are all too scared of Trump turning against them.  So Schimel decided nah, I won't show my independence, apparently not realizing that is what the voters want a justice of the State Supreme Court to be, I'll bend my knee to Trump and Elon.  What an idiot.  

Also tonight the Bucks snapped a 4 game losing streak and the Brewers actually won a game, averting what was beginning to look like a 0-162 season, so a good day here in the Badger State!  

Now let's get a criminal complaint filed charging Elon with buying votes.

[Mollywolly555]

10 hours ago, Eri said:

I hate to pile on, but Trump also recently chose Sara Carter, a Fox News contributor, to lead the ONDCP, which coordinates the federal response to the opioid overdose crisis across state agencies, including public health agencies. Carter has zero background in drug policy, public health, law enforcement, or government.

She is the 22nd Fox personality Trump has chosen for a major government post. Apparently TV experience is most important when coordinating the nation's response to an addiction crisis that has killed more Americans than the Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan wars combined? 😡

Absurd and surreal! People I know in epidemiology are reeling.

So is Trump's game plan to hire all these white Foxbots for their lying spin factor.

F--k the job / work itself, just make sure the sound bites and PR :

1) blame former administrations:

2) promise a better than ever great  new way of doing things; and

3) make sure everyone knows that no other women,  BIPOC or LGBTQ+ will be retained or hired.  

And remember in front of the cameras or anywhere else,  to always, always, always suck up to and flatter Trump.

 

[Annber03]

37 minutes ago, Calvada said:

Now let's get a criminal complaint filed charging Elon with buying votes.

PLEASE, somebody get the ball rolling on this already. 

[Yeah No]

21 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Politics is really destroying our country. And now we have hired factions who will go out and protest anything, regardless of whether they truly believe what it is they're protesting against. It's to the point where these people are randomly stopping drivers in the streets because of it! The blatant destruction of private property needs to stop. Even if the political arena improves, how do we all come back from the hate and destruction? 

Of everything you've said, this is probably one paragraph I agree with the most. Although I don't think people are protesting whether or not they believe in something. I think they do and they're angry about what they see as offensive to their values and beliefs. It's just that I have issue with some of the values and beliefs of those on the far right.

How do we come back from all the hate and lies spread to make us hate each other? That's a tough one. I am not a conspiracy theory person but I can't help but feel that there are sinister forces even beyond Trump or anyone in our own political arena that are trying to get us to hate each other because it benefits them. Putin is one theory I've heard of, but we have other enemies that might be manipulating us. Like those bots on SM that we hear about, some of which might be Russian. We should be united in opposing them but when we have a president that acts positively toward some of our enemies, like Putin, there's little chance of that if his supporters don't object to it. And in my opinion, they should.

21 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

P.S. No matter how much I might disagree with your political position, I would NEVER key your car or destroy your personal property.

 

I heard about the Republican headquarters that was vandalized. I do not support vandalism of any kind. But I wish I had a dollar for every Democratic headquarters in this country that's been vandalized since Trump.

[Yeah No]

11 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

Dimity, narcissism is usually accompanied by resentment.  The worst narcissist I've known was also wealthy & privileged -- you'd think his developmental years had been fraught with the tortures of the damned to produce such an adult.  I'd feel sorry for the poor beasts if only they didn't wreak such havoc upon the rest of us.

I've read that the peculiarities of growing up wealthy can create a narcissist. It can come about from a strange combination of being spoiled and neglected at the same time. And/or spoiled and feeling like you don't measure up or don't have your parents' unconditional love. It often happens as a result of mixed messages about being privileged and "better than" other people but also not being made to feel worthy in the eyes of one's parents. Or being indulged and spoiled materially but starved for love and attention.

I actually know one narcissist that grew up like that, the brother of a friend. He was a decade younger than his brother and born with a birth defect that resulted in several surgeries to correct. His mother died when he was 14 and his father was the head of HR of a big company. His father had a guilt complex about feeling to blame for his son's birth defect and showered him with material things. And then when the mother died he gave him anything he wanted. But he was also a work-obsessed executive that didn't pay him enough attention so the son felt neglected like he didn't matter. So the son became spoiled yet angry and entitled. A true, malignant narcissist just like Trump. He managed to bully and guilt his way toward screwing my friend out of his share of their inheritance. Unbelievable, but so true, and doesn't it sound vaguely familiar? Wouldn't Trump do something like that? We know how he bullied his older brother!

[Yeah No]

11 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

12 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Farmers are looking at bankruptcy and losing their farms and they will still vote Republican every fucking time. The cognizant dissonance is breathtaking.

Even though it's a stereotype I think it's true here.  A lot of people that live in rural states don't like (and I'm going to be nice) diverse people.  So Trump doing his level best to make this country white again appeals to them.  And if they have to suffer for it so be it.

Yup, they've also been convinced through right wing propaganda that those "diverse" people are coming to ruin their quality of life with crime and take away their jobs and livelihoods. So they think they're protecting their lives too.

I know we make a lot of Nazi analogies here, but it's not lost on me how Hitler got Germany's support in part because he made Germans think that Jews were to blame for their problems. So the solution was to eliminate the Jews.

A couple of days ago I saw a report on my local TV news following up on the aftermath of hurricane Helene. They were speaking to an older man in NC who lost his home and thanks to not having gotten relief money that he was supposed to get he was still living in a trailer, which he says he's going to have to vacate soon. This was on the day that massive cuts to FEMA were being announced. Meanwhile he was wearing a "Trump 2025" cap. Oh irony of ironies! Look, I get it that FEMA and other relief organizations could be better managed and there are more people in his situation or worse but massive cuts without a real analysis of the problem are not going to help their cause, only make it worse!

[Soapy Goddess]

12 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

That is something they don't understand. We want our country to succeed.  We want things to improve for everyone. And if Trump was doing things that would cause that to happen we would say ok we were wrong. 

We're not going to succeed if the left keeps defending destruction of personal property. This is rampant now...getting worse by the minute.

Let's not compare the daily protests, fires, dancing, chanting, etc with ONE DAY in January. I understand and support peaceful protests, but this has been going on for months now with no end in sight.

And let's not condemn ALL Reps. In the same way that you're not keying my car, I wasn't climbing the capital building either! 

Look, if we all can't get along on a "feelings" thread of approx. 10-15 people (who get along elsewhere on PT), how the hell are we EVER going to get there globally? 

[Soapy Goddess]

6 hours ago, Dimity said:

He had an innocent man deported To El Salvador and says they can't get him back.  His only regret I am sure is that he didn't send the man's wife and kids as well. 

 

Wrong again. In the same way that I refuted your "teenagers" statement regarding Doge men (thanks for the acknowledgment BTW), you are wrong about this too.

Apparently this guy was part of the MS-13 gang and also a human traffiker (sp?). I've got a migraine tonight, so forgive me for not searching a link to the story.

[Soapy Goddess]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

How do we come back from all the hate and lies spread to make us hate each other? That's a tough one. I am not a conspiracy theory person but I can't help but feel that there are sinister forces even beyond Trump or anyone in our own political arena that are trying to get us to hate each other because it benefits them. Putin is one theory I've heard of, but we have other enemies that might be manipulating us. Like those bots on SM that we hear about, some of which might be Russian. We should be united in opposing them but when we have a president that acts positively toward some of our enemies, like Putin, there's little chance of that if his supporters don't object to it. And in my opinion, they should.

Yes, and how sad for all of us. Maybe we have to start in small groups...like this thread. I realize there won't be any hugging, but at least try to listen to one another's thoughts. I truly believe we all want the same thing. Namely, peace and harmony. How we get there is the question. And, of course, leadership. Remember, I don't necessarily agree with everything he does. But by the same token, the sane Reps DO want law and order back. And we have to be consistent about it.

BTW, I heard that Bill Maher visited the White House (today?) and apparently they had a reasonable discussion. I'm happy to see that at least former enemies are trying to break the barrier of hate. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[nokat]

10 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

That's one of the things that cracked me up during the horrible fires California had last year. "They're right next to the Pacific Ocean. Why don't they just pipe in all that water?" Like they have no idea what salt water would do to the land. It's not like CA. is a big agricultural state, right?

I remember these when I lived there. I have a juvenile sense of humor for when they flew over. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:57 AM by nokat

[nokat]

10 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Sweet Lord.

Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner encouraged the White House to tell Americans worried about the economy and their 401(k)s they should view the situation like a “war effort.”

The panel on Tuesday’s episode of Outnumbered was discussing President Donald Trump’s tariffs that are set to roll out on Wednesday. Trump has dubbed the day “Liberation Day,” with reciprocal tariffs being imposed on nearly every country that trades with the U.S., but the stock market has reacted negatively and numerous economists are forecasting a bumpy road ahead, even a looming recession.

Hmmm, wasn't there a book by George Orwell? Let's just rename what it is.

[Dimity]

10 hours ago, tres bien said:

Money well spent Elon Musk

🤣🤣🤣

Thank god. I had a knot in my stomach all day yesterday. Nice to wake up to good news for a change!

[Eri]

8 hours ago, Mollywolly555 said:

So is Trump's game plan to hire all these white Foxbots for their lying spin factor.

F--k the job / work itself, just make sure the sound bites and PR :

1) blame former administrations:

2) promise a better than ever great  new way of doing things; and

3) make sure everyone knows that no other women,  BIPOC or LGBTQ+ will be retained or hired.  

And remember in front of the cameras or anywhere else,  to always, always, always suck up to and flatter Trump.

 

Project 2025's playbook includes reclassifying tens of thousands of merit-based federal civil service workers as political appointees in order to replace them with loyalists. And as we see, they are willing to bend or break protocol, or in some cases violate laws, to achieve his goals of enhancing more power to the executive branch.

The Heritage Foundation engaged a former PPO director from Trump's first term to assemble a presidential personnel database preparing to staff the White House with MAGA faithful to do just that.

Edited Wednesday at 12:15 PM by Eri

[Dimity]

And just to add people can spare me with the whataboutism trying to make isolated instances of vandalism on the part of non Trumpers even remotely equivalent to the constant never-ending litany of violence the MAGA have spewed in the last 8 and counting years. January 6 is just the worst example, not the only one.

[Calvada]

Arson and vandalism are crimes and those responsible should be held responsible in a court of law for those crimes.  I deplore these actions; they are not what protest should be.  Violence is not the answer. 

We are not seeing Democrats at the local, state, and federal level urging their followers to set fire to Tesla dealerships or vandalize Tesla cars; no one is telling them to "be there, will be wild."  I do not believe any Democratic governor or president is going to pardon anyone convicted of arson or vandalism involving Tesla, nor will they seek a compensation fund for them. 

For me, January 6 is not and never will be one day.  It was an attempt to overthrow an election, a day when a mob urged on by the president of the United States was seeking out the vice president of the United States to murder him on national TV.   As an American in my 60s, it was the most horrifying day in my life.  But also an affirming day, because once the Capitol was cleared, when the members of Congress and their staffers emerged from those areas where they had barricaded themselves against the MAGA mob, they did their duty and complied with their oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.  

[Annber03]

Yeah, I'll take the complaints about destroying Teslas seriously when the same people going on about that agree that every single member of the GOP, up to and including Trump, should be held criminally responsible for the events of January 6th. 

Until then, if the people in power don't have to obey the laws and can get away with participating in and encouraging destructive behavior, I don't want to hear any complaints about your average citizen doing the same. At least with Teslas, those are the only things being destroyed, untlike on January 6th, when, y'know, people's actual lives were at risk, based off a blatant and knowing lie spread by a creep who couldn't deal with the fact he lost an election. 

[bluegirl147]

9 hours ago, kittykat said:

I think we can all agree that after so much darkness this is a win we all needed.

As I said with the Dem winning the special election in PA last week this is yet another indication of things to come.  And while we may have lost the two House seat special elections in Florida yesterday the Reps won by less a margin than their predecessors.  And at least one county did flip to blue.

7 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I am not a conspiracy theory person but I can't help but feel that there are sinister forces even beyond Trump or anyone in our own political arena that are trying to get us to hate each other because it benefits them.

Oh honey that has been going on for at least 30 years. I've been saying forever they started feeding us a steady diet of reality shows to distract us. Then it was social media. I don't necessarily believe there is an Illuminati but do I think there are super rich people pulling strings?  Absolutely.  Musk is just doing it openly.

6 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I know we make a lot of Nazi analogies here, but it's not lost on me how Hitler got Germany's support in part because he made Germans think that Jews were to blame for their problems. So the solution was to eliminate the Jews.

The pictures of the detainees in El Salvador with their heads shaved is chilling.  We have all seen the pics from the Nazi concentration camps.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

We're not going to succeed if the left keeps defending destruction of personal property. This is rampant now...getting worse by the minute.

You act like the right doesn't destroy personal or public property.  Do you think it was progressives who firebombed abortion providers? 

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And let's not condemn ALL Reps

Why not?  Trump and his MAGA cult condemn all Democrats.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Wrong again. In the same way that I refuted your "teenagers" statement regarding Doge men (thanks for the acknowledgment BTW), you are wrong about this too.

Apparently this guy was part of the MS-13 gang and also a human traffiker (sp?). I've got a migraine tonight, so forgive me for not searching a link to the story.

No he was not.  Someone accused him of being a gang member with no evidence and nothing came of that allegation. The reason he was stopped in the first place?  He was wearing Chicago Bulls gear.   

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/01/politics/maryland-father-mistakenly-deported-el-salvador-prison/index.html

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

BTW, I heard that Bill Maher visited the White House (today?) and apparently they had a reasonable discussion

Bill Maher is a rich privileged white guy.  Forgive me if I don't consider him reflective of my political beliefs.

49 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Thank god. I had a knot in my stomach all day yesterday. Nice to wake up to good news for a change!

I was pretty sure the liberal judge was going to win.  People are pissed about what is happening and unsurprisingly the media is underreporting it. 

 

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

We're not going to succeed if the left keeps defending destruction of personal property. This is rampant now...getting worse by the minute.

Let's not compare the daily protests, fires, dancing, chanting, etc with ONE DAY in January. I understand and support peaceful protests, but this has been going on for months now with no end in sight.

And let's not condemn ALL Reps. In the same way that you're not keying my car, I wasn't climbing the capital building either! 

Look, if we all can't get along on a "feelings" thread of approx. 10-15 people (who get along elsewhere on PT), how the hell are we EVER going to get there globally? 

I don't know anyone on the "left" that approves of this vandalism. There is always a fringe group that approves of stuff like this, but just as you can't say most Republicans approve of January 6th you can't say that Democrats approve of vandalism of Republicans and their property. It simply isn't true.

And BTW according to polls done this year, Republican support of January 6th has actually grown over the years among Republicans to a whopping 22%! That's no fringe group! I seriously doubt that a similarly large percentage of Democrats would approve of something similar committed by Democrats toward Republicans or in the case of Jan. 6th, our government. But when you have so many Republicans so devoted to Trump, who has actually publicly said he wants that day made into a national holiday, what do you expect?

And that ONE day in January was arguably far worse than several much more minor attacks put together. And it was an attack on our government, not personal property, which is arguably much worse. That's a false equivalency if I ever saw one!