Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Cementhead]

9 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

This sounds a lot like something I've said in this thread, although I'm sure that other great minds have thought alike on this and it's not unique to me!

Yes, for sure, and the particular quote I was searching for earlier (with no luck) was from a journalist (whose name I have also forgotten!) who tied it directly back to Trump supporters and it was powerful.  If I ever figure out how to find it, I will share, lol.

[bluegirl147]

14 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

They act about him the way they act about their corrupt, lying, charlatan preachers, who take their money under false pretenses to help the ministry but instead line their own pockets (sounds familiar, right?).

Yes he is a corrupt lying charlatan politician.  People like him are only successful if there are people who fall for what they are selling. Instead of Jesus or snake oil Trump has been selling fear. And the right to be an asshole. 

25 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

I'm sure some of the politicians don't even believe what they say, they just say whatever they think will work for their base.

That is Trump. He became a Republican because they were willing to have him.  He didn't and probably still doesn't care about what was the Republican platform. Of course the Republican platform is now whatever Trump says it is.  The only thing he has ever cared about is himself.

28 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

Didn't the Biden administration prepare a border bill that would have helped getting illegal immigration under control? Didn't the GOP refuse to vote for it?

Yep and Biden deported more people than Trump did. But that wasn't shouted from the rooftops the way Trump shouts things. 

 

[bluegirl147]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bill-maher-hero-donald-trump-dinner_n_6801749de4b0f92ccce18e0f

Hero?  More like chump.

[fastiller]

Moving this to the proper place.

And it's happened again: 

U.S.-born American citizen under ICE hold in Florida after driving from Georgia

Thomas Kennedy, a spokesperson at the Florida Immigrant Coalition, who attended the hearing, mentioned Kafka in his remarks about this case.  Kafkaesque, indeed.

 

Edited Friday at 03:47 PM by fastiller

[Mollywolly555]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

 Trump's most ardent supporters do seem to see him as some sort of messiah and they will believe whatever he tells them even as they are going broke, losing health care and not knowing a tornado is coming straight towards their house.

 

Or even as they see the tornado headed towards them. 

Arlie Russell Hochschild wrote,  Strangers in their own Land in 2018 , about conservatives who  see their livelihoods. fishing, boating, recreation, ground, homes, family's health , etc.,  being destroyed before their very eyes by environmental abuses but do not admit it or fight against it. Hochschild's case study is on Westlake, Louisiana,  my in-laws home town. Cancer Alley. Halliburton. Shell Oil. Hurricanes. Fundamental Baptist beliefs. My FIL and SIL succumbed to cancer.

Entrenched group think. Afraid to speak up, rock the boat.  Not wanting to threaten their jobs or those of family/friends. Their community. 

Edited Friday at 04:13 PM by Mollywolly555

[Mollywolly555]

2 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Meanwhile I live in a very blue town and state. All of these are lovely, not hateful, racist MAGA people. I just think that like many Republicans they're still drinking the Kool Aid and not waking up to what's really happening. I just don't get such blind loyalty, but I think that's one big reason we are where we are right now. 

Yes,  me too. And my sister in Iowa. I've met her neighbors-- lovely, mostly elderly or middle aged, racist magas. Many former farmers who have handed over the reins to their children or grandchildren,  quite a few of whom have sold acreage to Big Ag, but they all still hold out hope for their party's traditionally held conservative beliefs to be the saving grace of our nation, or our (former) way of life. 

[tres bien]

There’s a lot of crime and in our country all you have to do is turn on news or go to a news source online 

Mass shootings are the norm but the way MAGAs frame it you would think every crime committed was committed by someone illegally in the country 

[tessaray]

Racism is real and shouldn't be ignored but right now it's a useful tool of the billionaire class. They're willing to let the country destroy itself to wring out every last dollar.

I wonder if they had gotten their precious tax cuts in the first few weeks, they might have let some of the cowed Republicans fight back against the destruction of the government. 🤷‍♀️ 

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, tessaray said:

Racism is real and shouldn't be ignored but right now it's a useful tool of the billionaire class. They're willing to let the country destroy itself to wring out every last dollar.

I wonder if they had gotten their precious tax cuts in the first few weeks, they might have let some of the cowed Republicans fight back against the destruction of the government. 🤷‍♀️ 

They're using their race wars as cover for what this really is - a class war. The 1% against everyone else. They pit people who care about social justice, equal rights and workers rights against racists, misogynists and the "I got mine, fuck you" crowd to keep both from coming for the real enemy - billionaires and their lapdogs.

[Dimity]

The "I'm not racist but..." crowd are being played and if they know, they don't care.  It's become all to clear that these people are prepared to sacrifice their own jobs, medical care, pension, financial security - you name it - as long as Trump continues in his war against the 'others'.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Yes he is a corrupt lying charlatan politician.  People like him are only successful if there are people who fall for what they are selling. Instead of Jesus or snake oil Trump has been selling fear. And the right to be an asshole. 

Yeah, the right to be an asshole is big right now. He's given license to all the bad actors out there to act out their assholery, especially men. Like we needed men acting MORE assholic than usual! 

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

That is Trump. He became a Republican because they were willing to have him.  He didn't and probably still doesn't care about what was the Republican platform. Of course the Republican platform is now whatever Trump says it is.  The only thing he has ever cared about is himself.

Yeah although I think it's more like he became a Republican because Democrats tended not to like him (gee, I wonder why??). So he became a Republican to stick it to Democrats for in his mind rejecting him. Meanwhile as we can see now if there was any rejection going on it was probably with very good reason!

And this garbage about bringing religion back to the Oval Office, or whatever I read this morning - He doesn't give two craps about religion, he is just using that to anger Democrats that believe in the separation of church and state and to pander to his base. Again, for his own gain only. To keep them loyal to him and MAGA to get Democrats' goats.

[Yeah No]

37 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Mass shootings are the norm but the way MAGAs frame it you would think every crime committed was committed by someone illegally in the country 

Yeah and meanwhile mass shootings are mostly committed by angry white males, who are citizens! Unbelievable!

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

They're using their race wars as cover for what this really is - a class war. The 1% against everyone else. They pit people who care about social justice, equal rights and workers rights against racists, misogynists and the "I got mine, fuck you" crowd to keep both from coming for the real enemy - billionaires and their lapdogs.

This has been happening for decades.  LBJ called it was back in the 60s. And certain white people fall for it every single time. I have a relative who in no shape or form is superior to anyone and he thinks his white skin makes him special.  The billionaire class has such contempt for anyone that isn't one of them they would see this country burn to the ground as long as they kept their billions.  They could do so much good with the money they could never spend in a lifetime but they would rather let other rich people take an 11 minute ride to "space".

13 minutes ago, Dimity said:

The "I'm not racist but..." crowd are being played and if they know, they don't care.  It's become all to clear that these people are prepared to sacrifice their own jobs, medical care, pension, financial security - you name it - as long as Trump continues in his war against the 'others'.

And they don't understand that Trump and his rich buddies look at them as an "other" too.  If you aren't worth at least eight or nine figures you are meaningless to them.

Edited Friday at 05:08 PM by bluegirl147

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

And they don't that Trump and his rich buddies look at them as an "other" too.  If you aren't worth at eight or nine figures you are meaningless to them.

Absolutely!  For all that he has gone out of his way to pardon those who committed crimes on Jan 6th let it not be forgotten that he was embarrassed as hell at the optics.  Not of what they did but what they looked like.  Was he expecting white middle aged men in three piece suits to storm the Capital?  This is Trump we're talking about, so yeah, it's possible.  

But whatever his expectation the reality is that these goonish thugs did not look like the kind of people Herr Trump would ever want to dine with.  Even if he does eat Big Macs!

Edited Friday at 05:11 PM by Dimity

[EtheltoTillie]

46 minutes ago, tres bien said:

There’s a lot of crime and in our country all you have to do is turn on news or go to a news source online 

Mass shootings are the norm but the way MAGAs frame it you would think every crime committed was committed by someone illegally in the country 

Yes, the latest mass shooting was carried out by a sheriff's son using the sheriff's weapons. 

Edited Friday at 05:13 PM by EtheltoTillie

[Yeah No]

4 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Normal people don't use terms like Others/Otherness and it's not the reason.


Again, the concept of Other is an academic self-fellation as most people think by raw emotions so the academic concept of "the other" is both meaningless and has no place when discerning motivation of the ordinary person.

 

Although I am an intellectual myself (self-taught as a means of protection given my disabilities) I also have a hard-boiled pragmatism -- which is how I understand that "anti-intellectualism" is like "reverse racism" - you cannot be bigoted when you are punching up not down. An intellectual is not an ordinary average person.

You're by far not the only intellectual on this board. And also not the only one that isn't in an ivory tower either. Just saying.

And all I know is that I have been acutely aware of being "other" in many situations in my life and being treated as such. It's not only an "intellectual" concept. It's something understood intuitively by many "ordinary people".

And anti-intellectualism is a thing. People that deliberately dumb themselves down because they can't stand what they see as the intellectual "elite" that they feel put down and snubbed by. Instead of aspiring to be more educated, they deliberately avoid it, put people that are educated down, and fall prey to people like Trump who manipulate them. Trump loves people that don't have good critical thinking skills because it's how he dupes them into their allegiance to him. He's able to play on their emotions because they avoid thinking with their brain.

And Trump himself felt snubbed by what he saw as an intellectual elite. The truth was that they saw through his BS and biased perspective on many issues. His views were always colored by prejudice even back in the day and it was obvious to many people. THAT's why he was snubbed. But he blamed it on their "intellectualism". So now he gets all these people to support him in his beef with Democrats and intellectuals and act it out in their own lives.

[bluegirl147]

Trump is dumb.  But he wants people to think he is smart. He is a stable genius you know. And if you look at polls educated people (and I don't just mean college educated but people who are also self taught) didn't support him.  By far white people with no college degree support him the most.  Look I am a white person without a college degree but I'm not stupid.  I can see Trump for who he is.  But for those that can't they are in danger of losing so much and they will most likely go to their grave blaming anyone but Trump.

[Anela]

5 hours ago, tearknee said:

Here is a conversation I had with a friend, discussing my piece pointing out the I-P reality (with the Peel commission in 1937, the Arabs would have got 80% of the land, under the 1947 Partition Plan they would have got 50% and etc.):

Me: It's striking how much impact one person can have on the debate. My most recent piece has been shared hundreds of times.

Friend: Pity it is just colonial propaganda

Me: Which factual statements made in that piece do you dispute?

Friend: As you know interpretation of history is not just about what facts you include

Me: So, you don't dispute any of the factual statements. That being so, you cannot avoid the conclusion I came to.

Friend: I am not going to engage in a response to any of your piece because I have other more productive obligations

Me: Yes, that is always how these discussions end.

I have had variants of this conversation many times over the years, about various subjects, but most commonly about Israel-Palestine. The conversation usually begins with a rhetorical statement ("Israel is an apartheid state" or "Israel commits genocide"). I respond by setting out the facts of the issue in the most dispassionate way I can. The other person never engages with these facts but responds with more rhetorical statements. When I insist on focusing on the facts, I get accused of being a propagandist or some other ad hominem term. Finally, the other person says, "I'm not going to engage with you on this anymore."

I am told by people who study human behavior that this is a very common pattern of conversation. I don't have any climate denialists among my friends, so I don't often have arguments on that subject, but I'm told such arguments usually follow this pattern. When a climate denialist is presented with facts that prove their arguments to be false, they simply disengage and walk away. They have too much emotional investment in their false beliefs to allow them to be challenged.

All of this makes me quite pessimistic about our future. We are facing several very grave crises, crises entirely of our own making. The solutions to these crises are easy to describe, although certainly not easy to implement. But most people most of the time simply do not want to hear the truth about any of these matters.

But Netanyahu is committing genocide.  When people were saying the student protesters should go to Palestine, and see how they’re treated, I was confused, because it sounded like they wanted them to be bombed, sniped, and starved.  We have human rights violations occurring right here.  They are trying to force gay people back into the closet, and in this environment, I feel like we will have more Matthew Shepards. They are arresting people, and trying to deport them all without due process - including citizens.  Women are dying from pregnancies they can’t terminate when needed.  Other women are being denied abortions they have every right to get, if they want or need to - or it was a right, until the radical right, and the extremist, activist Supreme Court did their thing.  

When Biden started to put his foot down with Netanyahu, I also saw a few moderates posting that they wouldn’t vote for him, if he kept that up.  If he stopped sending bombs to Netanyahu. That he obviously didn’t want their votes, but nobody called them out and said “you were never going to vote for him in the first place”. They were using their votes to keep him in line. I’m a lefty, I voted for Kamala, but I wanted them to stop aiding Netanyahu. I’m also not going to go around in circles over this.  We don’t get to wipe people off the planet.  

Edited Friday at 05:36 PM by Anela

[tearknee]

18 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

You're by far not the only intellectual on this board. And also not the only one that isn't in an ivory tower either. Just saying.

And all I know is that I have been acutely aware of being "other" in many situations in my life and being treated as such. It's not only an "intellectual" concept. It's something understood intuitively by many "ordinary people".

And anti-intellectualism is a thing. People that deliberately dumb themselves down because they can't stand what they see as the intellectual "elite" that they feel put down and snubbed by. Instead of aspiring to be more educated, they deliberately avoid it, put people that are educated down, and fall prey to people like Trump who manipulate them. Trump loves people that don't have good critical thinking skills because it's how he dupes them into their allegiance to him. He's able to play on their emotions because they avoid thinking with their brain.

And Trump himself felt snubbed by what he saw as an intellectual elite. The truth was that they saw through his BS and biased perspective on many issues. His views were always colored by prejudice even back in the day and it was obvious to many people. THAT's why he was snubbed. But he blamed it on their "intellectualism". So now he gets all these people to support him in his beef with Democrats and intellectuals and act it out in their own lives.

Most people are not tertiary educated. Most are thus not the people who post poli-social stuff here.

[kittykat]

And yet Gaza was the number one reason for the 3rd/no voters.  I swear people think Biden can snap his fingers and Netanyahu will pull back.  That was never going to happen. And they refuse to lick their wounds hiding behind their "bothsidesism" curtain.

And on the migrant crime, pretty much every credible outlet says it's down. It's the selective outrage any time a woman is killed.  Yes we should be talking about it but under the issue of violence against women and not just migrant crime. And not only mentioning the cases where the perpetrator is an immigrant or POC.

I read somewhere that anytime someone mentions vandalism against a Tesla dealership they should counter it with a report of a woman being sexually assaulted or killed because they sure love reporting one but not the other.

[Anela]

We have republicans blaming drag queens, and trans people for everything, as religious leaders in communities, are being arrested for child abuse.  STILL. this has been a thing, for as long as I’ve been alive (and much longer), but hey! Let’s punish innocent people, just trying to live their lives, instead.  Ban those books that include two men or women kissing. Anything that mentions the real history of this country, involving slaves? Get rid of that, too.  But they’re fine with anything written by Hitler, and they elected a man accused of  rape, and found guilty of sexual assault, because that’s totally normal, apparently.  

eh, I need to shower, and get myself outside.  Because I *am* terminally online, and it’s beautiful out there.  I need to get out of my head.  

[JustHereForFood]

3 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Most people are not tertiary educated. Most are thus not the people who post poli-social stuff here.

Even if that's the case, the majority does not get to dictate how things should be run to the rest. That is one of the core principles of democracy, the protection of minorities from the majority. (I'm not saying that educated people count as minority, to be clear, just trying to point out that numbers don't matter like that.)

Also, othering people is and has been a useful tool for dictators for a long time.

 

[Anela]

4 minutes ago, kittykat said:

And yet Gaza was the number one reason for the 3rd/no voters.  I swear people think Biden can snap his fingers and Netanyahu will pull back.  That was never going to happen. And they refuse to lick their wounds hiding behind their "bothsidesism" curtain.

And on the migrant crime, pretty much every credible outlet says it's down. It's the selective outrage any time a woman is killed.  Yes we should be talking about it but under the issue of violence against women and not just migrant crime. And not only mentioning the cases where the perpetrator is an immigrant or POC.

I read somewhere that anytime someone mentions vandalism against a Tesla dealership they should counter it with a report of a woman being sexually assaulted or killed because they sure love reporting one but not the other.

Yeah, and there were those of us who wanted the genocide to stop, who were trying to get through to those who said they wouldn’t vote for her. I know others like me, who voted for her, too.  There were people who didn’t vote for her, because she was a woman. 

[tres bien]

The way MAGAs talk about crime against women you’d think that only migrants commit rapes and murders and only white women are the victims 

[tearknee]

1 minute ago, Anela said:

Yeah, and there were those of us who wanted the genocide to stop, who were trying to get through to those who said they wouldn’t vote for her. I know others like me, who voted for her, too.  There were people who didn’t vote for her, because she was a woman. 

Many of them black and Latino men. The notion that the marginalized have solidarity with each other was always a myth (see also: white women).

 

6 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said:

Even if that's the case, the majority does not get to dictate how things should be run to the rest. That is one of the core principles of democracy, the protection of minorities from the majority. (I'm not saying that educated people count as minority, to be clear, just trying to point out that numbers don't matter like that.)

Also, othering people is and has been a useful tool for dictators for a long time.

 

If the educated minority thinks most voters should be ignored. the voters turn to people who do listen to them (Brexit, Trump, Australia's indigenous voice referendum)

[PRgal]

From a child-of-immigrant perspective, there's TONS of bias, especially from the uneducated in my cultural community (YES, there are East Asians who DO NOT have a university education...especially boomer mainlanders who grew up during the Cultural Revolution).  Some also take advantage of their newly adapted country and very upset when their children integrate.  You see this LESS with the current parent generation (i.e. GenX/Xennial/Millennial), but there's STILL a tinge (or maybe it just doesn't really exist just yet, considering the kids are still very young).  From a CBC (Canadian born Chinese) parent perspective, I get this weird vibe that the (East Asian) immigrant parents in my son's class dislike/resent me because I'm "not like them" in a way that they would never think if I wasn't Asian.  Maybe it's just me overthinking.  

Demographics at my son's school are more or less Asian (mostly Chinese or Indian) and White (with A LOT of kids having Ashkenazi ancestry.  I don't think there are that many who are Anglo-Protestant on both sides).

ETA:  I feel like a lot of people, especially educated White people, choose to ignore this, even when it's right in front of them.  

Edited Friday at 06:18 PM by PRgal

[peacheslatour]

19 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Many of them black and Latino men. The notion that the marginalized have solidarity with each other was always a myth (see also: white women).

 

If the educated minority thinks most voters should be ignored. the voters turn to people who do listen to them (Brexit, Trump, Australia's indigenous voice referendum)

I don't believe you really think Trump listens to voters.

[tearknee]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I don't believe you really think Trump listens to voters.

They think he does and that secular well to the left intellectuals do not.

Normal average people on the street think with emotions. Telling them their racist for not supporting the Voice or Harris?

 

Baffling asinineity.

[Anela]

35 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Many of them black and Latino men. The notion that the marginalized have solidarity with each other was always a myth (see also: white women).

 

If the educated minority thinks most voters should be ignored. the voters turn to people who do listen to them (Brexit, Trump, Australia's indigenous voice referendum)

It was mostly Latino and white men. And white women, unfortunately.

11 minutes ago, tearknee said:

They think he does and that secular well to the left intellectuals do not.

Normal average people on the street think with emotions. Telling them their racist for not supporting the Voice or Harris?

 

Baffling asinineity.

He tells them what they should be afraid of (something that isn't true), and they choose to believe it. They also know about the children being abused by religious leaders, but they continue to push religion onto their children, and the rest of us, and I don't see trump doing anything about it. He just points out one case of a white woman being murdered by a non-citizen, and that puts them into a rage. 

Edited Friday at 06:30 PM by Anela

[JustHereForFood]

40 minutes ago, tres bien said:

The way MAGAs talk about crime against women you’d think that only migrants commit rapes and murders and only white women are the victims 

Some men become very vocal about protecting women when it's about immigrants or trans people in bathrooms. Yet, when we tell them what we are actually afraid of (usually not trans women in bathrooms, but entitled angry men who hate women and listen to influencers spreading toxic masculinity), they dismiss us.

[tres bien]

OMG and this guy’s an actual doctor 

Today Dr Oz was sworn in as head of Medicaid and Medicare 

In his remarks he said “the way to reduce drug spending is to use less drugs “

 

[tearknee]

45 minutes ago, Anela said:

It was mostly Latino and white men. And white women, unfortunately.

He tells them what they should be afraid of (something that isn't true), and they choose to believe it. They also know about the children being abused by religious leaders, but they continue to push religion onto their children, and the rest of us, and I don't see trump doing anything about it. He just points out one case of a white woman being murdered by a non-citizen, and that puts them into a rage. 

again, most people think by raw emotion.

An intellectual elite is still an elite, regardless of the intellectual's class background.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

The troll is coming from inside the White House. This is pathetic.

Edited Friday at 08:00 PM by Milk-Eyed Mender
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[Milk-Eyed Mender]

7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Is that the official White House account?  If so, how can anyone who voted for, and still supports, Trump not be writhing in embarrassment right now?

Yes, it is. Screenshot comes from their Twitter account. Chatter on bluesky suggests Trump is trying to weasel out of culpability for this particular debacle. Per @atrupar.com:

"Trump: "You're talking about Abrego Garcia -- is an illegal alien MS-13 gang member and foreign terrorist. This comes out of the State Department and very legitimate sources I assume. I'm just giving you what they handed to me but this is supposed to be certified stuff."

 

[lookeyloo]

45 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

Yes, it is. Screenshot comes from their Twitter account. Chatter on bluesky suggests Trump is trying to weasel out of culpability for this particular debacle. Per @atrupar.com:

"Trump: "You're talking about Abrego Garcia -- is an illegal alien MS-13 gang member and foreign terrorist. This comes out of the State Department and very legitimate sources I assume. I'm just giving you what they handed to me but this is supposed to be certified stuff."

 

He never knows anything about anything.  

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Is that the official White House account?  If so, how can anyone who voted for, and still supports, Trump not be writhing in embarrassment right now?

Because they love that shit.  They believe the lies, and they think the hatred and juvenile sneering is funny.  They're not embarrassed because this is who they are, and what they voted for.

[Anela]

1 hour ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

The troll is coming from inside the White House. This is pathetic.

That is so fucked up. They’ve also transformed the Covid.gov site into a conspiracy page about a lab leak, and fauci. 

[CheshireCat]

 

5 hours ago, fastiller said:

Moving this to the proper place.

And it's happened again: 

U.S.-born American citizen under ICE hold in Florida after driving from Georgia 

I think it's important to note that he has been released. https://floridaphoenix.com/2025/04/17/u-s-citizen-released-from-jail-after-arrest-under-floridas-new-anti-immigration-law/

Still, that doesn't change the fact that he was arrested, was held for over 24 hours and none of that should have happened in the first place since the law he was held under is currently suspended. 
It also looks like the only reason they considered him an unauthorized immigrant was his name and looks. That's racial profiling. 

[Affogato]

https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/s/lbo9yjycy0
 

one if by land, two if by DC

the old north church. I can’t embed the picture. Worth a look. 

Edited Friday at 09:45 PM by Affogato

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, Affogato said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/s/lbo9yjycy0
 

one if by land, two if by DC

I love it!

[annzeepark914]

48 minutes ago, Affogato said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/s/lbo9yjycy0
 

one if by land, two if by DC

the old north church. I can’t embed the picture. Worth a look. 

Oh to be in Boston 💚. There will also be a reenactment of Paul Revere's ride. 

[fastiller]

1 hour ago, CheshireCat said:

I think it's important to note that he has been released. 

That is good news.  Thanks for the update, @CheshireCat.

[Affogato]

23 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

Oh to be in Boston 💚. There will also be a reenactment of Paul Revere's ride. 

Yes. There will be a lot going on in Boston. Baseball and basketball. The 250 stuff. The marathon. Easter. The proud boys are apparently going to be protesting us. 

[Lantern7]

3 hours ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

The troll is coming from inside the White House. This is pathetic.

Someone needs to be dragged out by the ankles and assaulted for this. I believe in freedom of speech. It's one thing if a knuckle-dragging MAGA posts something like that for clout and giggles. It's another when it comes from the White House's Twitter account.

I'm tired to people thinking, "Oh, they'll get theirs someday." I want results NOW.

[kittykat]

3 hours ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

The troll is coming from inside the White House. This is pathetic.

What in the ever living fuck?  Apparently someone in DOGE is not doing their job because this person clearly has too much time.

[LexieLily]

5 hours ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

The troll is coming from inside the White House. This is pathetic.

Okay, Trump/White House. The judge can add this very official tweet to the evidence pile that shows that you are not properly and expeditiously facilitating his removal from El Salvador. 

[Lantern7]

52 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Okay, Trump/White House. The judge can add this very official tweet to the evidence pile that shows that you are not properly and expeditiously facilitating his removal from El Salvador. 

For all the good that does. You’d need the 21st Century equivalent of the Untouchables: a team that can’t be bought or intimidated. I’m not saying people like that don’t exist, but there doesn’t seem to be enough of them to make a difference, Put it this way: buying tar and feathers in bulk would not be considered a sound investment.

I heard the White House’s annual Easter Egg hunt will feature actual eggs. Is it wrong for someone to teach their kids to successfully target and throw? Imagine Trump or one of his higher minions with literal egg on their face. Of course, the kid that does that would wind up on a one-way flight because the administration is that evil.

[annzeepark914]

Women, minorities fired in purge of NIH science review boards

Scientists, with expertise in fields that include mental health, cancer and infectious disease, typically serve five-year terms and were not given a reason for their dismissal.

For some reason I couldn't use the gift share of this article in today's Washington Post. So I copied & pasted the headline. 

[Mollywolly555]

This week, local news anchor spoke with Nicole Malachowski,  the first female Thunderbird pilot and a Lieutenant Colonel who served 20 years in Air Force. Her name and accomplishments were removed from the US Air Force website.

DEI.

She served in the military of our country admirably for 20 years. 

I want to repeat this statement 10000x loudly  in all caps until everyone in the US hears/reads it.

Lunacy. 

I think it's time to start hoarding and memorizing books via Fahrenheit 451, so we don't forget and can tell our children and grandchildren about real heroes.

Edited Saturday at 02:51 AM by Mollywolly555

[Dimity]

I do not mean this in a confrontational way but these are the moves the Trump administration is making that I wish his supporters posting here would address. Is this what you expected? And if it is can you please share why this matters to you. I would really like to know because I honestly don't understand why this is happening. Why should taking away DEI mean erasing past accomplishments?

Edited Saturday at 05:31 AM by Dimity